I was just watching the latest USCSB video and one of the comment was "If you think it's expensive to do it the correct way, wait till you see how much it costs to do it the cheap way."
nothing weird, we in Australia have plenty of them. They staffed only in high risk time, or when needed. And it is not only volunteer rural stations but some metro cities too. Equipment is ready, personnel is oncall (subwatch) - if something catastrophic happens which active watch cant cope they will be called to station, take their trucks and arrive to help.
Isn't a 3 minute response time too long for your own building or is that the time it took the nearest non-burning fire station to get a truck there after the alarm was raised?
A fire station catching on fire feels to me like the quote in Friday about getting fired on your day off. LOL. Spend $24 million then decide to cheap out on the important stuff. Good lord.
It is a "no brainer" to install alarms plus supression in a "new build" i would have thort ... Firemen in NZ always encourage smoke alarms plus sprinklers . Dur . Seems that "Modern thinking" and "bean counters" have certainly screwed up this time . Sad when such an impressive facility is ruined ... Thanks for the heads up
I charge my drone and helicopter batteries outside my house. The safest place to do it. Maybe fire departments need to install charging centers outside of the station.
This made me do some searching for lithium ion battery storage cabinets and there are a bunch of manufacturers in this space. Many come with outlets for charging batteries and some even have built-in fire suppression. They're expensive, but certainly well worth it for businesses (or fire stations) with many batteries. Unfortunately, this leaves them a hard choice for households. Given the increasing ubiquity of these batteries, there really should be an affordable consumer option.
not usable in this case - all this equipment is onboard, packed to be ready to go instantly, not to load all stuff from cabinets first. Good modern trucks have onboard chargers for all this.
Properly engineered lithium fire resistant storage for batteries while stored and charging should be used by everyone. The arborist shop I worked in had a 48v 9ah OEM battery catch fire while charging on a shelf in the wearhouse. The FD responded and put the fire out quickly but smoke damage required the steel building to be gutted and rebuilt. Due to insurance shenanigans and COVID contractor delays the shop was unusable for over a year.
No fire detectors, alarms or fire suppression system in a fire station? You just can't make this stuff up. Bad enough it was a lithium ion battery but no detection/alarm equipment when they force residential homes to install them. How do you even justify that?
WOW . Millions of dollars in loss and a few thousand for a fire alarm .The fire service pushes for fire alarms in the home and fire extinguishers , And sprinkler systems in commercial and other large buildings.
@StacheD Training you must be North American. Both here in Canada and in the United Stated building fire suppression systems into building is common. But for many advance European countries it is not. Can't comment on other parts of the world but suspect in Japan and Korea it would be the same as N. America.
Not having a fire sprinkler is stupid. Battery or no battery. You have diesel fuel stored in doors in one occupancy with a with sleeping area probably in an adjacent occupancy.
I am no firefighter but I believe a fire suppression system in a fire station will do more water damage to their expensive fire equipment than if there were smoke alarms and a rapid response drill to immediately jump in the fire truck cabs and moved them outside and hook hoses up to the closest hydrant. The building is not important. The appliances and equipment is much more valuable
@RC-wu6gm I'm no firefighter either, but StacheD Training (the owner of this YouYube channel) got it right when he said "a fire suppression system would have limited the fire to the apparatus" where the fire started. Suppression system built into building only act locally, they do not come on at once to cover the whole building.
I was just watching the latest USCSB video and one of the comment was "If you think it's expensive to do it the correct way, wait till you see how much it costs to do it the cheap way."
A FIRE STATION WITH NO FIREMEN IN IT. WIERD WILD STUFF.
nothing weird, we in Australia have plenty of them. They staffed only in high risk time, or when needed. And it is not only volunteer rural stations but some metro cities too.
Equipment is ready, personnel is oncall (subwatch) - if something catastrophic happens which active watch cant cope they will be called to station, take their trucks and arrive to help.
WONDERFUL World of Lithium
We are like the first humans discovering fire...
"cost benefit analysis" will always be more important that safety, or lives in the modern world.
You just know that cost benefit analysis took into account if people died in there too. 😒
Maybe they accounted for insurance gains too.
At least the new fire station had solar panels.
Good catch. Thanks. ... 4:23 ... What if it was the solar battery that caused this?
Lithium battery apologists will be quick to dismiss this as just another "Yes, but ICE vehicles are much more likely to -" incident.
OH THE IRONY.... courtesy of lithium ion batteries!!
This is deja vu to me station 61 for Orange County Fire Authority in Buena Park went up in Flames a couple years back and it was a similar cause
Great Video!
¡Ay, caramba! Strength! GODspeed!
Even buying OEM tool batteries is a risk, a lot of really good counterfeit knockoffs have come on to the market.
Isn't a 3 minute response time too long for your own building or is that the time it took the nearest non-burning fire station to get a truck there after the alarm was raised?
A fire station catching on fire feels to me like the quote in Friday about getting fired on your day off. LOL. Spend $24 million then decide to cheap out on the important stuff. Good lord.
It is a "no brainer" to install alarms plus supression in a "new build" i would have thort ...
Firemen in NZ always encourage smoke alarms plus sprinklers . Dur .
Seems that
"Modern thinking" and "bean counters" have certainly screwed up this time . Sad when such an impressive facility is ruined ...
Thanks for the heads up
I charge my drone and helicopter batteries outside my house. The safest place to do it. Maybe fire departments need to install charging centers outside of the station.
This made me do some searching for lithium ion battery storage cabinets and there are a bunch of manufacturers in this space. Many come with outlets for charging batteries and some even have built-in fire suppression. They're expensive, but certainly well worth it for businesses (or fire stations) with many batteries. Unfortunately, this leaves them a hard choice for households. Given the increasing ubiquity of these batteries, there really should be an affordable consumer option.
not usable in this case - all this equipment is onboard, packed to be ready to go instantly, not to load all stuff from cabinets first. Good modern trucks have onboard chargers for all this.
Why weren't there fire walls between each engine bay? So much for the station being state-of-the-art.
Properly engineered lithium fire resistant storage for batteries while stored and charging should be used by everyone.
The arborist shop I worked in had a 48v 9ah OEM battery catch fire while charging on a shelf in the wearhouse. The FD responded and put the fire out quickly but smoke damage required the steel building to be gutted and rebuilt. Due to insurance shenanigans and COVID contractor delays the shop was unusable for over a year.
Did the insurance cover lost productivity??
No fire detectors, alarms or fire suppression system in a fire station? You just can't make this stuff up. Bad enough it was a lithium ion battery but no detection/alarm equipment when they force residential homes to install them. How do you even justify that?
WOW . Millions of dollars in loss and a few thousand for a fire alarm .The fire service pushes for fire alarms in the home and fire extinguishers , And sprinkler systems in commercial and other large buildings.
Sprinkler systems in large building aren't ever required in some 'advanced industrial countries'.
This is like saying the Titanic will never ever ever sink.
@StacheD Training you must be North American. Both here in Canada and in the United Stated building fire suppression systems into building is common. But for many advance European countries it is not.
Can't comment on other parts of the world but suspect in Japan and Korea it would be the same as N. America.
Not having a fire sprinkler is stupid. Battery or no battery. You have diesel fuel stored in doors in one occupancy with a with sleeping area probably in an adjacent occupancy.
I am no firefighter but I believe a fire suppression system in a fire station will do more water damage to their expensive fire equipment than if there were smoke alarms and a rapid response drill to immediately jump in the fire truck cabs and moved them outside and hook hoses up to the closest hydrant.
The building is not important. The appliances and equipment is much more valuable
The appliances looked a bit worse for wear.
@RC-wu6gm I'm no firefighter either, but StacheD Training (the owner of this YouYube channel) got it right when he said "a fire suppression system would have limited the fire to the apparatus" where the fire started. Suppression system built into building only act locally, they do not come on at once to cover the whole building.
TH-camr Videobob had his house burned by a Robotic pool cleaner with Li-ion batteries the other day
Lithium-ion battery sparks deadly Brooklyn fire, FDNY same
I'll be in NYC in a few weeks. I hope to do a video while I'm there.
You couldn't make this up
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You should also warn people to check that their manufacturers aren't linked to israel.