Spending 2021 with the Ducati Multistrada V4S | MCN
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How many miles have you ever ridden in a day? Can you beat Rich's 707-mile route from 2021?
no...lol
I bought my Duc F1A new in 1985. Broke it in then rode from Georgia to California in 3 days - I was young : )
650 miles with my Multi 1200S. Took the long way via country roads from Knoxville to Orlando. 17 hours with lots of stops and many rainstorms. Super comfortable with the cruise control.
Wow, no 440 miles in one shot (Monterey CA to San Diego) is my record, on a Fireblade. It was fast, but not ideal 😵💫
Montreal to Auld's Cove, Nova Scotia on my 1200RT, 800 miles.
I recently purchased a V4 s and found your assesmment accurate and highly informative. Whilst I have only done 840 km, I can however compare it to my previous Multi which was a 1260 S 2019 ...covered 14000 km on it. There is a HUGE difference between the two bikes and I must admit I was highly sceptical initially and kept evaluating the two bikes on a constant basis.
Whilst I cannot comment on engine performance just yet, albeit to say that at 4000RPM in 6th gear the V4 accellerate instantly whilst the twin needed 2 gears down. Following are the significant improvements in my opinion:
1) Syspension: The bike tracks extremely well ( much better than the twin) is much much responsive and feels more planted in long sweepers. I set the damping on Auto resulting that it adjust as road conditions vary..its really plush
2)Comfort: Whilst I dont sit as deep, I found the seat very comfortable, perfect for long trips..The heated seat is extremely effective..caution
3) Wind protection : Very little wind on my upper arms, hence much more effective.. the screen is an absolute joy to operate
4) Electronics: The radar system is a nice to have but not such a big deal ,.,however, Blind spot indicators is a total WOW. . Its a huge safety feature and whist I dont rely on it fully( old habit) I use it as confirmation. The rest of the system is very modern and easy to operate..nothing to complain about
5) Engine heat: Absolutely Zip..Zero.. I did experioence this on the twin in slow traffic but can honestly say that Ducati has this nailed.
6) Ducati DNA: Ok..lets not kid ourselves, The 1260 twin has that incredible deep grumple that resonates in ones brain..its a total blast, especially with a full system .That mechanical noise and vibration is something you enjoy every time you ride and truthfully I miss that.. This bike is silky smooth, quite ( remings me of a Mazda rotary engine) zero vibration and rather stealth . Hence I questiion the continuous of Ducati's DNA..it has changed ..I did however order a full system and will hopefully be happy once fitted
In conclusion..this is an incredible bike..pure and total enjoyment to ride an probablty the best bike I haver ever owned. I have no doubt that it superior on long trips and every department, easier to ride, more comfortable and hence I do not regret the switch ..I just miss the sound!!
Thanks gents, I found this informative and interesting, and enjoy the relaxed style of the format. Looking forward to seeing more of these.
got mine in May last year...had 8 days in Scotland in August with mates...had many bikes in my 40 years of riding but this bike is just amazing,i cant praise it enough,expensive yes but worth every penny
Great stuff! Glad you're enjoying it.
Work for Triumph do we!? 😆
I did 767 from Madison, WI to Rapid City (and vice-versa) several times. On the way out followed by another long day from Rapid City to near Livingston, MT. Like an additional seven hours. But my buddy takes the cake. He rode my 1250 GS from Vail, CO non-stop to Madison, WI. Over 1,050 miles. And he pulled an all-nighter to do it. He forgot to bring boots so he used bungee cords to close his pants legs to the wind because he was freezing. When he arrived in Wisconsin, he became very ill. But to this day says it was worth it.
I bought my Multi V4S at the end of September last year and have done 903 miles so far (most of it in the flippen rain!) and I luv it!!...can't wait for the better weather..
Thank you so much for putting this together. I recently purchased a 2022 MS V4S and look forward to long days in saddle. Great review
Thanks guys. Great review. Keep them coming. 👍
Great review from you both and sounds like a great bike. Thanks
Excellent review, I loved hearing about Rich’s fleet of bikes 😆🤘
Thanks gents, a great review - very comprehensive & considered. I'm buying one 👍
These long term reviews and the initial press ride reviews compliment one another well.
Great video. I’m really enjoying these as you can’t get this level of information from a 1 hour test ride. Thank you. 👍😎🇦🇺
Great review video!
Excellent review from an experienced rider and interviewer👍
Love this series of vids; excellent additions to the print media.
Just put the first 600 mile break-in on mine, waiting for the first service and looking forward to the next experience with it.
Great review as always.
Great review!
AWESOME ! ! ! ! ! AMAZING ! ! ! ! FANTASTIC ! ! ! ! ! TOP ! ! ! ! ! !
Thanks.
I really appreciate the tire tip: Dunlop Mutant. This review has such depth. What an impressive individual. Incredible. This gentleman is quite the rider. 1,000 mile days! Thanks guys. Love your work.
I have the Mutant on my V4S, fantastic tyres!
@@alessandrocollavo689 Very cool! How does the Mutant compare on mileage v the stock Pirelli Scorpion Trail IIs? Sounds like they are more sporty? I got 6500 miles on the initial tires, and the 4700 on my second pair of OEMs. I did run a much higher pressure on the initial set 36 front 40 rear. Second pair I ran to spec exactly. I’m a little pudgy and kind of heavy handed with my throttle and breaking. TMI I know!
@@ksheehan330 hello. I had the Mutant fitted on the V4S since the first day (transferred from my previous bike). However, on my 950S, the stock Scorpion II lasted only 4500 km (the front was gone). With the Mutant I got 7000 km and they are much more enjoyable, the front is fantastic with a lot of feeling and more agility, but also very stable. Only with high temperature (more than 30 degrees Celsius) the rear suffers a little bit.
@@alessandrocollavo689 thanks so much for this info! Be well!
And he really keeps this bike in great shape... It seems
Great bike but just out of my price range for now, maybe in a few years time. I've just put a deposit down on the new V2s which I'm looking forward to collecting on march 1st with the new reg plate.
Good choice!
This V4 is probably the last bike I'd buy used...it will get expensive to fix real fast with all that gadgetery :) Also looking at the V2S.
Good choice on the V2 Multi. That's the one I'd probably buy. I plan to test ride a V4 this year and obviously it's an awesome bike, but I suspect for me, for where I live, for the roads I like best, the V2 would be better. I ride a Supersport 939 with touring pack now. Knowing generally how the V2-motored bike's engine would feel, I question whether a 60 hp increase over the 937cc twin would even make for more fun 99% of the time - For me anyway.
how do you like the dunlops? and do the handlebars kaps anything?
Since I bought The Hyperstrada 939, I realize that Ducati design and quality is pretty serious from the ground up to the handlebar mirror.
One thing not mentioned is mpg , how thirsty are they with “normal riding” the occasional rip but a kind of mixed bag , would you say early mid 40’s is achievable?
A stamfordian nice one
Tucson AZ to Jackpot Nevada... 861 miles Harley Davidson Dyna.......
Great review. Price is mad though…..
Dunlop mutant tyres. Great tip.
I own a V4S since 02/21, started riding it in late march - we have lasting winters and had a 16000 km trouble-free season. Had the recall done (unfortunate but well handled by Ducati) luckily at the dealer as shipping the bike back to Europe would have been a show de merde. On your connectivity praises - I can not share that as the Ducati app and Sygic caused and still does cause me nothing but aggravation. My take on this is that customers field-tested the connectivity functions, not impressed. Maybe the 2022 software update will bring improvements. Can't complain about the Pirelli's, the forward facing Radar could give visual feedback on how fast the car in front of you is driving just so the rider could make a more seamless decision to pass or to roll back the throttle. Awesome bike, I can only recommend the machine.
Hello thor8640,
Great feedback, thank you. And I completely sympathise on your connectivity problems. Mine was bad from day one, and then just got worse - to the point where it would barely ever connect. You may have spotted the Beeline Moto satnav fitted to the bars in the video - that’s there because of the connectivity issues I was having. However, since the software was updated, I’ve genuinely had no issues whatsoever. I don’t believe any bike manufacturer has really got connectivity properly nailed yet, sadly.
All the best, Rich
I'm not the target market. But the valve stuff sounds absolutely scary.
The MSV4 has a huge payload (230kg) which means plenty for "normal" sized rider, pillion and luggage. How does it feel 2-up fully loaded?
Hello WorldBiker,
I’ve taken my wife pillion (she’s 9stone and 5ft8in - but don’t tell her I told you), while I’m 17.5st and 5ft11in. I’ve also taken a fellow tester out on it, who I’d guess is more like 13st and 6ft1in. We’ve ridden two-up with luggage, and without, and used several different suspension settings to test them out (switching between the pre-set load options and the ‘Auto’ setting). I’d say it’s good, without being exceptional. In all modes, the front feels slightly too light, and it causes the front to ‘wander’ ever so slightly. It also pitches more than, for example, an R1250GS - which means you have to be very gentle with all your inputs if you want your pillion to still be there when you arrive at your destination. In the adventure class, the GS with Dynamic ESA is still the benchmark for two-up riding composure, in my opinion.
All the best, Rich
Made the switch from GS 1250 TE in November 21 to the Multi V4 Sport, early days so far only 100 miles done. Only my opinion but I did have the feeling on the GS that all though I had the latest version a 2021, BMW tend to drip feed the tech to the GS in small yearly updates that almost made the bike a little outdated. The Ducati feels and looks very cutting edge and is an absolutely beautiful bike to ride. Great presentation MCN and let's hope for some big safe miles for everyone in 2022.
How is the comfort compared to the GS? I am trading my 2014 GS Adventure with a Multistrada V4S.
@@Explorerda I would say the Multistrada is slightly more comfortable.. certainly better wind protection.
Square rear tyre? Sound quality and video much 👍
What does this even mean? Are you asking a particular question?
!4 minutes and how many mpg/tank range ????
Aside from the off road ability, i wonder how Richard would compare this to the superduke GT he had as a longtermer some time back?
Love to see that reply. Having a GT now and two up, day tour use.
Hello Richard,
It’s a great comparison to make, and I’d say that the Multistrada V4 feels very much like KTM’s Super Duke GT - which is a bike I love (both Gen1 and Gen2). They’re both superbly comfortable over distance, entertaining for B-road blasts, joyful for the everyday commute, effortless and engaging to ride - and both have that rare blend of complete practicality and irreverent hooliganism. The Ducati is more expensive, but you can really see where your money is going - and you get a 4-year warranty. If I were buying new, I’d go for the Multistrada every time (cash permitting) - but as a used bargain, the Super Duke GT is very compelling.
All the best, Rich
If you need extra fuel range, on transport section dial the ride mode to the lowest power output setting ie rain mode. During transport sections at a steady speed I in no way need 170hp. If I do I quick tap on the ride mode back to full power for that needed blast. Extra fuel range... Problem solved !
yes just ridiculous. Also all these bike manufacturers should make 6th gear a much taller overdrive. You need f all power to sit on 140kph on a freeway or so 2k rpm in rain mode would easily be enough power and torque to keep the speed steady.
so Ducati build quality has improved recently? :)
Pillion comfort?
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Would have been nice to ask how he found living with the limited range on this bike which has often been criticised on road test reviews?
I never understand the problem with range. It does roughly 170 to 200 miles to a tank. In other words, over 3 hours of typical riding. For the vast majority of people they will be glad to have a break for 5 minutes after that amount of time
@@richardbrooks4549 totally agree. I asked as it had been mentioned in many of the reviews. Your thoughts were of great interest to me due to your love of high miles per day. Thanks 🙏
200 miles to a tank on this Duc, well that would be the first time. You mean till running on vapors, ok maybe 200 then.
Hello Don,
There's no doubt that having a bigger tank range would be great. I love the 30-litre tanks on BMW’s GS Adventure and the Multistrada Enduro (I've done big miles on both), and the huge flexibility they give you. In relaxed use, this Multistrada V4 S - which has a 22litre tank - will carry you around 190-210 miles if you're being relatively gentle with it, so even on a big day in the saddle, the fuel stops aren't too intrusive. It's not the most fuel-efficient engine (44mpg is the best I've seen in normal use - and it's easy to get that down to 38mpg), but the outright range has certainly never proved a problem. Obviously the more aggressive you are with the throttle, the worse the range gets - and sustained Autobahn use would drain it fast as the consumption seems to really increase sharply when cruising at over 90mph. The fuel warning flashes up at circa 40miles-to-empty, and the range counter is fairly accurate (I've put 21.4litres in it when the range reads zero). Hope that helps…
All the best, Rich
My friend rides with us on his new V4s . He hits 150 miles panicking for fuel. . Yet 230 ish from my 2020 1290 sas at same speeds. And we are not riding slow.
Just needs the bigger tank and shaft drive and it will be number one!! until then BMW GSA
Beautiful bike, problem is not everyone can fix it if the dealership is far. But then, Do you trust the dealership?…
Where did you put the extra fuel tanks. 35 mpg is not acceptable on so called touring capable bike.
Really great bike, but I've never liked cruise control on a bike or a car so something i would never use and isn't a selling point for me would definitely have one money permitting.
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At £18K there’s just too much competition out there. But good luck to Triumph.
Is it just me that suffers from the negatives? I have a V4S Sport and the seat absolutely breaks my arse. The front wings do nothing to cool me from the rectifier heat on the right side of the seat simply they blow cold air on my shins. And they also blow cold air when it’s cold outside and of course all the muck from the front wheel. I guess you only ride on temperate clean days. Without the panniers the filth from the back wheel gets all over my riding trousers and back of my jacket necessitating my kit being washed basically every time I’m caught in bad weather. In short, weather protection is rubbish. As for your impressions with the connectivity I can only assume you’ve got the latest 2022 software update?
Yes. My therapist would say you have a v4 Ducati - get out there and ride the wheels off it.
Most people complain that they run too hot, you're the first I've heard complain that it runs too cold haha
Hello Paul,
It may just be that my arse is considerably better padded than yours! As you can see in the video, I’m storing a fair few pies about my person. But I genuinely find the Multi exceptionally comfortable - which is why I said it. Yes, the ‘wings’ do direct airflow on your legs - nice on hot days, less so on very cold ones - but I’ve never considered it to be at all intrusive. I regularly ride in sub-zero temperatures for considerable distances, and ride in all weathers - so I’m certainly no ‘temperate days only’ rider. As for the filth - well, I almost always ride with the panniers on, and haven’t regularly ridden on filthy days with them off. I have noticed some ‘fling’, as you note, but absolutely nowhere near as bad as you get from a GS - which absolutely clarts you in muck - or most other bikes in this class. Rubbish weather protection? Sorry, that’s not my experience at all. For my 17.5st, 5ft11in lumpy body it’s very cosseting in terms of airflow and protection from the elements. If anything, my only negative would actually be that it gets too hot on very warm days. But, we’re all different shaped humans, maybe it works exceptionally well for me and doesn’t work at all for you - I can only comment on how I find it. Regarding the connectivity - yes, my software was updated as I mentioned in the video. I’ll repeat what I’ve said in a previous reply here to save you scrolling through other responses: Mine was bad from day one, and just got worse - to the point where it would barely ever connect. You may have spotted the Beeline Moto satnav fitted to the bars in the video - that’s there because of the connectivity issues I was having. However, since the software was updated, I’ve genuinely had no issues whatsoever. I don’t believe any bike manufacturer has really got connectivity properly nailed yet.
What bike will you be buying next?
All the best, Rich
Connectivity issues completely sorted from a software update? I think not! Try importing a GPX into Sygic, or running Ducati Connect as a background app (e.g. Waze in the foreground) and you won't stay connected! Ducati make no claims to fix either problem in the Q1 update either. Example: th-cam.com/video/V7wQXOQP7tQ/w-d-xo.html
A 22k gamble on trusting its reliability. As nice as it is, i wouldn't, talking with previous italian experience
Apart from the awful fuel range the v4 multi engine is wrong in that style of bike. The torque is in the wrong place . It's around 8000 rpm where it comes alive and at that stage you're at 90 plus mph.
My 1290 ADV has max torque lower keeping speed in check. Plus it was half the price.
or maybe a KTM 1290 R EVO with panniers and a PuiG screen added would be super cool!
Had any problems with it? Well it has had a new engine.
Apart from the engine recall - which actually only affected bikes that were fitted with valve guides from one of the two suppliers Ducati use - and the early dash connectivity glitches, I’ve had no problems at all in the last 9000 miles.
All the best, Rich
The engine failed after 250 miles 😂
No, there was a recall. Which Ducati handled brilliantly.
Why would that man say "Christ"? Praying or reviewing a bike??
Just an expression of Englishness of a wows factor ie (like) “holy cow”
Bottom line, overspecced and unaffordable.
All bikes in this category are overspecced.
Like he said:
The price of the Africa Twin being almost similar, is worse.
Same with the Kawasaki Versys 1000.
Top specced, it's close to the GS and Multistrada, at least here in Norway.
Those two bikes simply can not compare to the Multistrada or GS.
No comment about cylinder heat. No comments about low range. And then you say , more comfortable than a goldwing. I am no gold wing fan, but that is bull. I wish there had been some better feeling of non bias in this interview. Came through as totally needing to say nothing but good.
Yeah, great bike for sure... I stopped listening at the engine failure after 250 or so miles.
Well,, that is when you lost me. 30hp more than the GS , yes. Then you say - more flexibility. Well no. This is quite low torque vs the GS. So the Duc is faster for sure, but absolutely not more flexible. So credibility - in the tank.
It's got 125 nm, which is the same as the GS up until 2019.
The GS quits at around 7000 rpm. This lasts til 10.000+.
I'd say it's pretty flexible.
Ducati multistrada v2 or v4 170 I tried both its a fuckin so nervious all the time . It's not a all day long bike. This guys telling lie.
Engine almost guaranteed to fail from the valve horrible design. Replacing engines was a pathetic PR stunt. These bikes are nightmares.
What evidence do you have to back your claim?
@@matsrekdal3065 a self-portrait ☠
Ducati have reliability problem... never 😅😅
Sounds terrible.