Guardiola vs Klopp
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Pep Guardiola’s Manchester City and Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool might just be the best two teams the Premier League has ever seen. And Football Data Analyst Maram AlBaharna and Tifo’s JJ Bull have the data to back that claim up.
How are the two teams similar? How are they different?
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Maram and JJ together in a video is always a wholesome change from the slowly increasing insanity of the rest of the content.
incredible comment
The Bullard really holds back in these. It's endearing and very reletable.
I hope Maram joins in the insanity
You can never have enough insanity.
I also like it when the insanityest guy chews the miserable guy out. I assume he's his boss.
Maram’s genuine joy and excitement for the stats makes these videos so good because I too love when stats tell me something I wasn’t expecting
This is a fantastic example of Tifo being in touch with what fans actually talk about and want to hear
I think Maram's presenting style by herself is sometimes a little passive and hard to get excited about. When she's bouncing off someone else though she is probably my favourite analyst at Tifo. JJ goy me amped up then Maram hits me with the facts so calmly and so well explained.
More please.
thats a good point her last video came off a bit rambly, but that style of format is hard to make engaging.
@@charlesfowler4308 you can wear a hijab and be extremely loud (i have friends like that). Maybe she just needs time and that's okay. They should do more of this duet thing before letting her go on her own, then maybe let her star in a few short 1-2 minutes video and get her comfortable before letting her perform solo.
She should be a manager.
This channel has changed how I watch football, now I constantly look out for formations during attack and defence, player rotations etc. It's much more fun and needs more concentration to watch a game and appreciate the tactics.
Really rate Maram, she's clearly super knowledgeable and excited about the stuff she wants to share. Love it!
Why would you be suprised she is on Tifo football, can’t imagine anyone would be in there if they didn’t know what they were talking about or love football
@@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835 joe
@@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835 never said he was surprised pal
@@renj1935 I’m sure Joe plays a character for entertainment
Maram is always in such wholesome videos, and yet, her smile belies the same kind of insanity that affects the rest of the team, and I hope we get to see how it manifests.
@@sha7303 it’s cultural not Islamic 🤣
Yesssss she better join in the insanity
The only thing missing is she needs to be wearing the merch. Can be over what she’s wearing like her Athletic hoodie or whatever, hell maybe convince them to make some long sleeve merch for once
The comment I was looking for…
Tifo recruits the best people. Best scouting system in world football.
Great video…the 11 min and 30 seconds flew by. This could’ve been an hour long deep dive and I’d still probably feel like we only scratched the surface in discussing these two teams. Bravo! 👏
I've noticed my fullbacks are more often than not my most passy boys in Football Manager whenever I use a 433. If I use a more standard 442, my fullbacks tend to be the least important players on the field to the extent that I try to find ways to get them to be more of a presence. Playing them inverted appears to work in the best way possible while still having the 2 banks of 4.
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Can we see Maram on the pod? I would love to see how her calmer, more composed demeanor matches up against the shenanigans we've come to expect through the rotating council of JJ, Joe, Seb and Alex.
I’d love to see another FM series where you pit a handful of the best managed sides against one another. Pep’s Barça, Pep’s City, Klopp’s Liverpool, Ancelotti’s Milan, del Bisque’s Galacticos Madrid, Wenger’s Invincibles Arsenal, Mourinho’s Chelsea, etc..
This would be fun to watch that
Maram is a very welcome addition to the Tifo squad, she should be feature more! 👌🏻 👍🏻 👏🏻
This is a really good Tifo duo, Maram is doing a great Job alongside JJ, Who is always fantastic.
Thanks for the content because I haven’t watched a lot of football this season only really watched villa games as I have been busy with university and work so definitely helpful to know what to look out for when watching the game on Sunday
Maram is absolutely terrific at presenting information and transitioning between topics!
Love maram on a video, gives great insight
absolutely!! she’s such an asset!
Maram has a lot of knowledge and a pure passion for football.
I was initially not convinced by her.
It was my bad.
Her knowledge and awareness is as great as any analyst.
Thank you Tifo for giving her the opportunity she deserves.
Maram's pronunciation of Mohammad Salah is so refreshing to hear in English football content
I love that this channel isn't taking itself as seriously as they did before. The info and presentation is still top notch as ever but you guys were too serious before
MC full backs are part time defensive midfielders, LFC fullbacks are part time wingers
8:56 I’ve been saying for months now that Liverpool no longer press with the same intensity that they used to have in the 2018-2020 period. I’m not sure if this is in recognition that Klopp’s main players no longer have the legs to do it and/or if the front line is now being used more to protect, congest, and “press” the midfield areas.
it's boggling how many people still think we play like we used to cause they criticize jota for his press. It looks like there's so much more versatility now and that's why i believe are midfielders are getting into goal scoring positions. But as you said i really do would like to know why this transition is happening
@@titler3140 I think klopp had an epiphany after the champions league loss to real madrid. he most likely realized gegenpressing every game was not sustainable. especially now that he was competing with a team that just got a 100 points. so klopp abandoned his principles and became pragmatic.
@@Ajxle He didnt really abandon it yk
The entire Liverpool team has its tactics based on moments
There are periods of a game which they do employ gegenpressing and then slow down
Our pressing was toned down a few years back, you’ll still see it occasionally but Klopp probably changed it up since it was very common for the team to run out of steam around the 70min mark in his first season or so.
@@udayonsen260 yes this is it. I’m sure there was a tifo video about it too . We still gegenpress in the same way, the only difference now is that it’s more situation based than it was. If people noticed a lot of these changes started after Buvac left and Lidjners became assistant coach
Maran and JJ look like they would have been friends from a young age, getting called to the principals office for scribbling tactics on desks
What a rivalry we're witnessing here, one of the greatest footballing rivalries of all time no doubt from Dortmund Bayern to City Liverpool, these two managers are something special
Maram & JJ are Tifo's Guardiola & Klopp. Love their videos together!
Maram's got a super soothing voice, and I love hearing bout the data in this way. Long may it continue :)
I’m fascinated by the differences between the two coaches. Klopp is obviously more courageous & risk taker when it comes to his obsession with high line defending. However, I would love to see him takes even more risk by applying constant switch between two formations: 4-1-1-4 or 4-1-3-2. 👏♥️
Overthinker VS Origi enjoyer
more of this stuff Tifo, Maram crushing it and JJ is good at steering the convos🔥
Tactfully dodged analysing ManUtd vs Liv, as that would show all of LFC sat in Utd’s box, Utd’s team scattered to all compass points, with Ronaldo committing random GBH on a wing somewhere 😹
Really enjoy these videos with both JJ and Maram and love reading the wholesome comments about Maram.
Only thing I want to correct / add is Bernardo will be closer to Rodri in this game- Bernardo almost plays like a second pivot in big games- more defense minded than attack
Yeah. He's almost like the kante of the team
I think it worth noting that their attacking shape is pretty similar if not the same. City's and Liverpool's attacking structure often looks like a 2-3-5 or 2-3-2-3.
The difference is which players take up the positions. Obviously, the first 2 are the centerbacks. But the three is already different. Both have their defensive midfielder in the middle, but at Liverpool the players next to him are his midfield partners whereas at City it's usually the inverted fullbacks.
Liverpool's width is usually provided by their attacking fullbacks, at City this is done by the wingers. City occupy the halfspaces with their central attacking midfielders, at Liverpool it the wider attacking players (Salah, Mane, Diaz). The "center forward" position is pretty much the same, though.
Yes it's a 433 that kinda morphs into a 235.Liverpool wanna play in the opposition half with most of their players and this pin the opposition back,while the two centre backs and the defensive midfielder patrol the half way line, ready to nip any counter attacks in the bud , and recycle possession again
The main takeaway from this is how Newcastle have the most different goalscorers. That's surprising
That january transfer window pumped it up, nothing surprising here
So many transfers
5 transfers isn't that many. Also, 3 of them are defenders, 1 CDM and a Chris Wood
Maram with JJ together in this video is the cutest thing i've seen today, thanks tifo! 😁
2:32 maram's look as JJ plays with his tactics board. The same look my partner gives me when I geek out a little too much
How on earth do Newcastle have the most different goalscorers this season 😂 my guess would've been chelsea
So many transfers
They brought in 5 new players in the winter which already scored.
Maram's joy seems to be saving the Bullard from the insane grasp of Joe Bovine. I'm glad that we have an entity of balancing joy to counter the Bovine's cynical chaos. These videos are so wonderfully wholesome, I'd love to see more!
This match is just overflowing with quality.
Very good analysis from Maram & JJ.
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all capps aside.. you rocking it girl. be your confident self and show us! am loving your thoughtfull insights so far, you're an excellent addition to the tifo team!
Great video, guys. Thanks
When you look at these systems, due Arsenal's current injury situation, you could see them building a hybrid of this system.
Tomiyasu (when he's back) can be that reserved fullback role
Tavares can be the more attacking fullback (Cancelo/TAA) by either drifting in or running wide depending on the situation
Xhaka x Partey (KDB x Rodri)
Then that fluid foward line speaks for itself, one extremely wide winger (Saka) and another who drifts wide or cuts in depending on the situation (ESR/Martinelli)
All well and good, but when you're asking Xhaka to be KDB, you're not gonna have the best time
nobody cares about arsenal
I wish y'all would use players that aren't injured 😭 seeing Ruben on the team made me so excited.
I hope history is kind to these 2 teams. I hope that they don’t simplify it with how many trophies they’ve won and call it a day with who’s better. In the age of huge money and big managers going to the premier league, it takes soo much greatness in a team to turn the league table look like a 2 horse race.
Maram you're my inspiration, shout out from Singapore!
It’s great to see a woman be confident in what she’s saying when it comes to football. A lot of female commentators/analysts know they’re stuff but seem to be scared to put their points across at times. Maram is great.
The Maram and JJ combo is quickly becoming my favourite Tifo analyst pairing
I learned a lot watching you. Great educational video. Thank you!
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The difference is only LFC give forward passes more than City. City are more conservative.
That's all.
I am amazed by the fact that 1 point seperate them since 2017 wow... That's whole new Level.
Slight quibble, but having 16 or 17 unique goal scorers is cool but far less instructive than seeing the actual goal distribution for both teams. I am not sure, but would expect that Manchester City's goals are more evenly distributed than Liverpool's. Certainly in past seasons that has been true. Some quick mental math tells me that Salah has scored around 26% of Liverpool's EPL goals (20/77) while Manchester City's top scorer(s) (3 way tie at 10/70 a piece) only accounts to about 14%.
Liverpool are a great team, but they are still quite reliant on Mohammed Salah and overall far more so than City are on any individual player (except maybe Cancelo or Rodri to be honest). Salah is probably up there as one of the least replaceable players in the league in general and seems to never be injured on top of that.
It should be an interesting game. I'm expecting it to get a bit more rough and tumble than previous meetings between the two (something I doubt city will enjoy much).
The guy who transforms a good club into a great club with unlimited money
Vs
The guy who transforms midtable clubs into world's best with way less money
Worlds best still have only 1 league title. Chelsea have 1 league title and 1 UCL in the past 5 years just like liverpool. No disrespect but pep has won more
@@grealish2234 because hes at a better disposition? thats not a feat, klopp still did an indisputably herculean task at liverpool. I honestly don't get the klopp v pep thing with fans, well the extremists of the debate anyway, you're at a time when the prem is enjoyable with a battle between two brilliant managers and teams, however I still would concede what klopp did in 5 years with what he had when compared to pep is still greater. yes he won more but dude thats not the only way to rate it or them
@@grealish2234 pep still not winning CL with unlimited budget in city is a harsh truth.
@@grealish2234 Klopp won the ucl. Guardiola hasn't
@Donquixote Doflamingo Barcelona were 3rd and ucl semi finalist the previous season.
Liverpool were playing in the europa league and were like 9th or 10th when klopp was appointed and look at them now
I'm intrigued by Maram looking more South Asian, but then she seems to have a bit of a Caribbean twang in her speech. :D
But more importantly, I really appreciate her knowledge and enthusiasm, and I like her presentation style. Great addition to the Tifo team. :)
I am anticipating how the craziness of Tifo starts to make its way into the very down to earth and calming Maryam. She is a good change of pace
Aye bruh no cap but like the greatest PL team just gotta be the Invincibles.
In my humble opinion, they can match LFC for the power and pace, and City for the flair, control and silk.
No way to really know ofc but yeah my £0.02
Maram is like that sweet baby sister you never fought with and want to protect/spoil. Just love her analysis!
Pep is a league of his own
Newcastle have just joined his league
must be a league without any champions league trophies
@@jebbo-c1l he won 2 and he has 34 trophies
He could activate ucl mode in that league only with messi
@@christianopulinaldo8319 respect guardiola we love him here in Latin America
Need these two on the podcast one day
Go on Maram, great vid
Thing missed about the number of goalscorers is Man City only have 17 outfield senior players while Liverpool have 21, hence Man City do have a wider range of goalscorer relatively
That "Mohammed Salah" good pronunciation from Maram is just a joy to hear
The new Tifo merchandise is incredible! I bought the ‘Radio Muller’ shirt on Monday, and it arrived on Friday!!!! That is brilliant turnover and arrival time, thank you Tifo :)
JJ kissing his iPad 10:18 in 😆
Big Tifo random fan here. Just got one question/comment: Why Luis Diaz not included in the Liverpool formation? This is because data analyzed if before his signing, right?
Maybe this can start discussion on the new Mane role with Diaz in squad and how this maybe or not a risk for tomorrows match.
Anyway, great video as always. Thank you, guys.
What is this? Salient points? Interesting, in-depth stats? Is this some kind of football channel or something?
Trent AA could be a thing moving forward. Or just "the battery".
*Maram and JJ* 🔥
Quality video as always.. Just got myself the Milkman and Tifo Coffee Mug 🤟🏻
idk if this is a question worth asking or not, but do de bruyne in a double pivot situation play like a deep lying playmaker, advanced playmaker or a mezzala (in around 1:40)
Love Maram's accent
Maram has been a great signing
Would love to see a video like this showing the changes Antonio Conte made in Tottenham
I’m first, don’t believe what the time stamp tell you. Time is an illusion.
Not gonna lie City vs Liverpool remind me of United vs Arsenal back in the day.
Maram Maram Maram. More from Maram please, I want to listen more to her
Maram coming up trumps again - JJs cool too I guess
Loved this video.
Maram Ball
Maram was itching to get her hands on the board like JJ was ruining it! :)
as a man utd fan this hurts me deeply
Talking about literal nicknames and their respective t-shirts, how about a JJ Bull "The Bullet" t-shirt?
'Liverpool are attack, attack, attack'
people were wondering why pep started Jesus, it was for the long ball over the top of midfield that he can win in he air, as the liverpool press is hard to play through.
love tifo!!!
Maram is fantastic!
We stan Maram 🔥🔥🔥
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i don't know what the premier league would be without this rivalry
Jose will be winning the League title with man utd
@ 0:19 here come the arsenal fans talking about the invincibles
This was great, but it is getting slightly annoying that pundits and analysts keep using that last game as a reference and all the whole highlighting how important TAA is to Liverpool's game. He didn't play, so all the stats on style of play in that game are a bit pointless
The game this weekend will hopefully be amazing, but I’ll be super nervous hoping Liverpool win. I would love to see them do something historic this season, like win the treble or dare I even say, the quadruple!
These two are great
while liverpool have had more individual scorers, i think its important to note that salah has still scored more than a quarter(20/77) of their total goals, whereas as city's 3 top scorers all have 10 each
Mane and jota have over 10 goals each
Probably because he's arguably the best player in the world
You guys are sleeping on Karim Benzema this season.
I think if you ask most players, they'd rather play for Klopp than for Pep. Firmino and Origi still have Klopp's trust. Meanwhile, Pep has dropped Sane, Sterling, and many brilliant players just for one mistake in a game.
cos Pep is overrated. He doesnt improve players. klopp improves everyone
Maybe bcuz city's squad at that time was bigger. Liverpool's front three back then was never rotated or rested bcuz they only have origi and minamino off the bench which are not high quality. Look at liverpool now, no one knows their front three lineup anymore.
+ pep only imrpoves 100 million players
If you are a championship player and you want to become worldclass, klopp is your man
It also shows how Pep demands perfection but he also played Sterling last season despite mistakes.
Thats bc you're liverpool fan you're biased. I said this as liverpool as well. I can imagine players would love to play for both
If Mark Carey can fit inside a scatter gram, Can Maram fit inside a normal distribution curve?
Possession v Attack
Chem between the hosts is way off, still good vid