I had no idea that people could get so upset about food and nutrition until I saw the comments for this video. I think everyone could do with taking it down a few notches.
+Mostafa Shakal An unfertilised egg is basically a hen's period. The chicken has no use for it at all and it will either sit and rot or get damaged and then eaten (because chickens eat just about anything - not because they need any nutrients from it).Taking eggs from a chicken is fine and nothing like taking milk from a cow which you can only do by impregnating the cow and removing its calf.
+Mostafa Shakal Why on earth would you want to though? Yeah, it's a miraculous liquid, perfectly balanced full of all the right hormones, nutrients and minerals to promote health, strength and growth, I know... but ONLY IF YOU'RE A F***ING BABY COW!
+Mostafa Shakal You could always buy human breast milk if you want something that's good for growth and ethical. I warn you though it doesn't taste very nice.
Well researched and presented! As a former strength and conditioning coach I have had this type of argument thousands of times with my pro athlete clients. Thank you for explaining the fact that proteins are made of amino acids and that the goal is to consume amino acids and not all foods provide the correct forms of amino acids. You always hear "I eat protein. I love rice!" Well nice try but you are missing some parts. Compliment the rice with beans and you're all set. Great work guys!!!
Wow! Having read these comments some are missing the point and some have very strange ideas! This video is great (well done guys) for people who are learning or want to learn/ improve. They are not saying eat meat they very clearly said (reading between the lines) you need protein regardless of your meat views and if you can't get it from one source it's available by supplements or mixing other food sources ie: nuts, grains, pulses etc! These guys are not going to make a video without checking the numbers, and if you know anything about nutrition it varies from person to person as we are all individuals! For those unsure the main food groups are...fats, proteins, carbs, fibre,vitamins and minerals just pix n mix! What works for you is great but stop pushing beliefs! But we all know a cyclist diet is coffee and cake based! Merry happy holidays everyone! Again great work GCN! Now where's that like button...
A word on those cans of Tuna lurking in the foreground, they are full of mercury. The suggestion is no more than one a week. The Snapjack tuna contain the least and the other varieties like Bluefin and Yellowfin contain three times as much.
i train 3,5 hrs a day (2hrs on the bike 1,5 hrs in the gym) and i'm fine at 100g of protein per day. #ctfu btw 3g of leucine are only 175g of raw lentils.. so if you make a lentil soup after your ride, you can easily cover all your protein needs and compared to protein powders its jummy and filling too. i dont think that video is that bad as ppl say in the comment section, since they mention that you can get ALL YOUR protein needs on nearly any kind of well balanced diet...
This video was basically a commercial for the supplement that you featured in the video. You used chickpeas as an example of an "incomplete" protein and were worried about essential amino acids. If you would have done your homework you would have noticed that even if you eat nothing but chickpeas you would still get more than sufficient amounts of total protein (150g in 3000kcal) and way more than the daily recommendations for each essential amino acid. Actually, you would also get 11g of leucine, of which you seemed to be worried specifically. An even more extreme example: eat just potatoes, and you would still get enough protein and all the essential amino acids (60g protein and 4g leucine in 3000kcal). Furthermore, you could have mentioned how much calories riders consume during the TdF: about 7000kcal a day. No one watching your videos needs these amounts daily, and surely they will not need the ridiculously high 3g protein per kg of body weight.
+andypaul999 I have never understood his popularity. A hatred for carbon frames combined with unending curse words does not pass for intelligence to me.
+Brian Moore Totally agree! I just can't stand his video. You don't need to use profanity to make your point. All he does is click-bait and provoke response in his videos. But he seems to have a cult following.
Very informative. I commute to work here in Canada almost all year long and I often feel like my body is eating my muscles because I haven't nourished it enough, especially in the super cold months. I should really eat more.
I think you should check on Katie Compton about things related to protein, more specifically what the difference of folate and folic acid can make for some people. Great to watch cycling stuff in youtube, with this weather. Tomorrow its cycling again so thanks for a chance now to be cosy and warm watching your shows on a sofa. By the way, could you consider to venture up north to make some testing on cycling with studded tires. Interesting factors would be to compare e.g. the wattage differences between a sleek and a studded ones. Maybe that could be tested on a trainer even.
I think the product placement is too obvious in this vid xD. I can understand the feedback as Ive sent thousands of crew over to GCN as GCN has incredible info otherwise but this vid didnt meet the GCN standard of legit info. :( Lets clear up some facts that are all easy to google in a few min. 1. ALL whole plant foods contain ALL the essential amino acids. 2. The incomplete protein myth was debunked back in the 80's by the very author who started that myth - Frances Lappe Moore. 3. Pro cyclists and runners abuse corticosteroids so they can DECREASE muscle mass not build it. (name one GC contender who looks more muscular now than when they were 21 answer: NONE of them.) 4. If you eat like a lean Kenyan - rice, sugar, bananas, steamed potatoes etc then you will look like a lean Kenyan. 5. If you eat like a fat aussie aka bacon, fish chips, sausage, steak, dairy etc then you will look like a fat aussie.
+durianrider I honestly think each to their own. If it works for you it works for you if it doesn't it doesn't. Unnecessary vid from GCN IMHO Oh Durianrider do you or have you ever taken protein supplements? just curious
I have nothing wrong with or against durianrider, so your emotional attack is unnecessary 1. I see how you can think that, 'If' i had the mentality all the time then yeah that would be pretty stupid don't you think? To have one mentality.... IN CONTEXT which is diet, it is most certainly each to their own, it's what works best for them. I eat meat, in my opinion there is nothing wrong with that i also eat vegetables nothing wrong with that. Both are natural things, both are living growing things. Anyway im not here to debate Vegan against the rest thing as i'm sure Durianrider will put me in my amateur place 2. For starters the human species happens to be at the top of the food chain. A Lion for starters eats meat, other animals, right? By your logic you seem to be forgetting that when we were forming as a species we would also eat meat of others and even ourselves, so essentially your argument is going against your new found beliefs. 3 Now i never said anything about calories, I know that already everyone who did basic year 10 PE knows that. Just like everyone should know there are three main fuels, Carbs, fats and proteins. You need all three to function efficiently, as i'm sure you'd know. So fat intake is just as important as carb intake same with protein. It all goes hand in hand. so yeah derrr you need carbs i never said you didn't 4. I hate the logic of "if you want to became as fit as...." That's an issue. When you start comparing someone else's fitness and health that's when you have missed the point entirely. All this is about improving oneself not trying to be "as fit" as someone. Now you do realize people have different body shapes and different chemical reactions in their body and about 10, 000 other different things we have going on in our body, its what makes us different and unique after all. So it's what you feel like, if you want a Big Mac eat a Big Mac, it may clog your arteries but that's not your choice to make. To finish and to go back to your starting point please think about what you say, my intention isn't to start a fight or anything like that, but when you insult my logic with a bunch out of context bullshit then I won't be such a nice person. And MATE if you think you can change my ideas on life and other ways of me living it in a comments section on TH-cam on the internet when you don't know a thing about me or my way of life then you must have one big mother of an EGO So have a nice day! Cheers Jimmi
i dont eat meat or any other animal products.. Because of the availability and cost of fruits and vegetables here where i live. bananas are literally growing beside the road and know one is taking them because its so abundant.. Yet i dont consider myself as a vegan.. why? because being a vegan means you constantly have to argue with people either in public places or in the internet.. im perfectly happy riding my bicycle and eating fruits and vegetables with my family why seek out enemies if you have none?
+ilikewasabe You do realise that if you "don't eat meat or any other animal products" then that, by definition makes you a dietary vegan. It doesn't matter what you say or think, that is the definition of a dietary vegan. If you don't use any other animal product then you are a vegan. I absolutely applaude your choices, I'm a vegan myself and not afraid to admit it or label myself as such. You're either confused or attention seeking by posting comments such as your original on the internet , but either way you are at least a dietary vegan. Face it. Well done, but face it.
James, have a Q. You said you'd have to explain a missing cambelt proof ( meaning you'd set a keen price and trust they'd acknowledge and get it done )? i've never done cambelts on the 10,000 cars sold and seen maybe 200 proof's. The trade almost never has the margin to do belts on every car The Audi is a good buy ( A1 ) i20 Hyundai's have tailgate and paint flaking problems , big time. It's an i20 thing Motorway is more at 6k fees than £250 ex VAT, likely total cost Inc VAT about £320, prob £269 ex VAT
+Johnny Hanel What lies are we talking about, exactly? The only related claim they made is that intake of protein intake, particularly protein that includes the amino acid leucine, is important after a workout to stimulate muscle growth. From the study below, " After exercise, recovery of muscle protein synthesis requires dietary protein or BCAA to increase tissue levels of leucine in order to release the inhibition of the initiation factor 4 complex through activation of the protein kinase..." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16424142
@@leemoore8154 well it all comes from the bodybuilding world and its a billion dollar scam milk powder labelled protein. Steroid using celebs endorse the milk powder. There is protein in peas the highest amount in any vegetable. So why would anyone want to bulk up on protein powder that is full of artificial sugar and flavours also gives you gas not too healthy.
Hey guys. Good episode, I have a question about cricket protien. is that a good scource to consider? Or better to stick with endurance spacific powders?
How many GCN viewers pump out 170km a day like a grand tour rider and thus need 3g/kg of body weight? Deliberately misleading video. Off season vids have been poor so far
At 4 min :34 seconds they say you need to eat nuts to absorb leucine. But, the example is peanuts. Which are more closely related to legumes, right? So, should it really be nuts like almonds, walnuts, or pecans?
High leucine foods include cheese, soybeans, beef, chicken, pork, nuts, seeds, fish, seafood, and beans. The recommended daily intake for leucine is 39mg per kilogram of body weight, or 17.7mg per pound. A person weighting 70kg (~154 pounds) should consume around 2730mg of leucine per day.
I am concerned with a piece of information that you gave in the video: a human can digest only 20g of protein per hour. if that is correct, then using the 1.5g protein per kg of body weight per day formula, I would have to eat 8+ meals per day (I am 108kg)! Is that correct? it seems impossible!
A nephrologist friend of mine has told me that excessive protein supplements can (and often do in body builders) cause kidney failure. Do not over do it, you don't just pass it away!
At 180 lbs, I eat around 150 to 250g of protein in a day. I eat less protein and more carbs on days when I ride, and scale up the amount of carbs and calories depending how much I ride. Been able to slim down my waist while increasing the size of my legs, and feel great on the bike as long as I plan to have enough carbs prior to and during the workout.
Is there a bioavailability difference between discrete amino acids in lab made supplements such as you might find in sports nutrition drinks vs. whole food proteins with their balanced array of proteins, fats, carbs and phytochemicals?
Hey, I am interested in the study you refered to, that says you can only digest 20g protein an hour. Could you poste a link or the name and author of the study? Cheers mates, thumbs up :)
CAPTAIN AMERICA Watch athlean-X. Or schreded sports science. There is no anabolic window. This is complete noncense. Just like tis video.... seriusly watch the other stuff
bro science everywhere... you don't need more than 1.8g/kg. for endurance sports 1.5g/kg is enough. to OPTIMIZE protein sinthesis you only need to do 3 or 4 meals a day and make sure that each meal contains 30 to 35 grams of protein.
KushPizzaSleep fair enough, your probably right, i just find the way he shouts at you annoying- but meh, each to they're own, a lot of people like him! and he's probably a much better cyclist than me aswell :L :)
+John Bak Well, good on ya! I tried to go full veggie for a month or so, but that was all I could do, because I felt kind of "sick" in the end. Not very good at all. The reason for this is not clear to me, but some time a go I read an article that said something about that there's at least two body types out there in the pool of humanity. One mainly omnivore and the other mainly vegetarian. So it might be the reason why I felt bad. I don't know if the science behind the article was/is BS or not.
+Runar Damnes And have you noticed how angry vegans always seem to be? They seem to automatically develop a hatred for anyone that does not believe in their path. I don't run around yelling at people on the internet telling them that they must eat the way I do.
I'm confused here - They state the body can only absorb around 20g of protein per hour, but they also state that for their day after day endurance rides they would need 210g of protein per day, so to satisfy that they would need to consume the 210g of protein across 11 hours?
Your nutritional advisors are about 30 years behind on their reading of the literature with the legume/grain combining to get all amino acids. You do need both, but you don't have to get them in the same meal. If you want to broadcast information to a large audience, you would be wise to get more than one opinion, just as you would for a story on the less important best chain lubricant.
So if I'm doing some tour riding and out on the bike for 4-6 hours for some consecutive days is there a way of getting a protein hit on the ride? I mean a nice coffee stop latte sounds like a great idea every hour but might slow progress.
A liter of milk...which is what goes into about 1/4th lb of cheese. Much easier to enjoy when kicking back after a ride. No idea if the amino acids/proteins survive aging or if there is some breaking down, though.
Hi. A lot many people talk about the advantages of sports nutrition coming in the forms of gels, bars and powders and they being economical, but, to state a fact, it isn't so in India. As most of these products come from abroad, one serving costs anywhere between Rs.100 to Rs.150. So, if you are to have at least 3 servings on a day-long ride, that sums up to be not so an economical advantage considering you also have to keep money aside for the 'real' food as well. Be obliged if you could talk about concocting natural food and the split as to when to have in full-day rides. I like touring and though I am yet to go on multi-day tours, but one ride lasts for anywhere between 80 to 120 kms and I have noticed that the other half of the day doesn't get to be all that fun compared to the first half.
Hi neelesh, you make a great point and actually something we've always been careful to say as well is the importance of eating "real food" on a ride. We've already got some videos on easy homemade snacks you can take with you on a ride if you search for them, and a few more will be coming out soon too :)
Actually an excess of protein can damage one's kidneys, I suffer from a Stage 2 kidney disease. Please don't advise people to eat more than 1g per kg per day without medical supervision. Athletes should at least test their creatinine and urea to check that their kidneys are functioning properly specially if they struggle to recover from long/intensive workouts (feeling tired more that 2 days later)
After some additional reading, it's seem there is no link between increased protein intake and kidney disease for HEALTHY individuals. Studies show however that high protein intake will further damage kidneys for people suffering from chronic kidney disease www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1262767/
+smachsimo Thank you for that - that myth has got to go. Unless you already have any sort of kidney malfunction, there is no danger in consuming high amounts of protein, indeed.
If you have excess protein you don't excrete it. You either burn it off as energy(it actually gets turned into glucose, a type of carbohydrate) or gets stored as fat.
a cup and a half of nuts sounds like just slightly more than what I usually eat if I can. raw unprocessed nut fat is the best fat I've found for me joints and general laboring, the arteries don't mind it either.
Wow! This video has sparked some heat from the vegan crew. I thought it wasn't bad, at least they spoke about protein in plants and combining different plant foods to gain a balanced amino acid profile.
God forbid they provide information generally accepted as fact within the scientific community in an easy to digest (oh yeah) format. They even go as far as showing that all major sides of dieting philosophy are completely acceptable. I'll be sticking with 500mL of choco milk and a banana or two post ride, but chapeau for a solid video.
numbers don't add up and contradictory. 20g maximum absorption every 2 hours (being generous). 16 waking hours, so 9 2-hour windows (not how people eat). 9*20 = 180g protein maximum. 70kg @ 1.5g = 105g. 70kg @ 3g = 210g - what they say is right for them!
+B1945418525518 16 waking hours would be 8 two-hour windows wouldn't it? Unless you're including a two-hour window after going to bed (which might be sensible), in which case you'd be spot on. Either way, you're right that the arithmetic doesn't work out - unless the body's rate of ABSORPTION also increases under stress, along with the its base requirements - in which case this should have been mentioned in the video. I don't have a stake (or perhaps, 'steak') in whole protein/carb fetishist warfare thing, but I do prefer it when the numbers add up.
🍃 Would love to see you guys cover the topic of Vegan diet for a cyclist as imagine it could be (to a point) agenda free. So much hate & opinions on either side of the fence and it's difficult to get real unbiased information. Keep up the good work 👍🏻 Loving the comedy & info 🚴🏼💨🍃
I personally don't care about protein, I eat just high carbohydrates food and I feel so much better both on bike and in life, my blood test are always better than average people.
Boys I normally like what you have to say but this time you really need to do more research on what you are talking about. A video full of misinformation 👎
Guys b4 doing this video you've really should do your homework. There's a TH-cam channel called NutritionFacts dot org where Dr. Greger explain the difference between animal and plant protein based on last 20 year scientific research. As soon as I hear Dr. Greger teaching people a cycling craft, I'll recommend him to tune in into your channel. In other words - stick to what you know.
I had no idea that people could get so upset about food and nutrition until I saw the comments for this video. I think everyone could do with taking it down a few notches.
For every glass of milk you have a baby cow is denied its post ride recovery drink.
lol
***** I was using irony to advocate veganism, as it happens.
+Mostafa Shakal An unfertilised egg is basically a hen's period. The chicken has no use for it at all and it will either sit and rot or get damaged and then eaten (because chickens eat just about anything - not because they need any nutrients from it).Taking eggs from a chicken is fine and nothing like taking milk from a cow which you can only do by impregnating the cow and removing its calf.
+Mostafa Shakal Why on earth would you want to though? Yeah, it's a miraculous liquid, perfectly balanced full of all the right hormones, nutrients and minerals to promote health, strength and growth, I know... but ONLY IF YOU'RE A F***ING BABY COW!
+Mostafa Shakal You could always buy human breast milk if you want something that's good for growth and ethical. I warn you though it doesn't taste very nice.
Well researched and presented! As a former strength and conditioning coach I have had this type of argument thousands of times with my pro athlete clients. Thank you for explaining the fact that proteins are made of amino acids and that the goal is to consume amino acids and not all foods provide the correct forms of amino acids. You always hear "I eat protein. I love rice!" Well nice try but you are missing some parts. Compliment the rice with beans and you're all set. Great work guys!!!
Wow! Having read these comments some are missing the point and some have very strange ideas!
This video is great (well done guys) for people who are learning or want to learn/ improve.
They are not saying eat meat they very clearly said (reading between the lines) you need protein regardless of your meat views and if you can't get it from one source it's available by supplements or mixing other food sources ie: nuts, grains, pulses etc!
These guys are not going to make a video without checking the numbers, and if you know anything about nutrition it varies from person to person as we are all individuals! For those unsure the main food groups are...fats, proteins, carbs, fibre,vitamins and minerals just pix n mix! What works for you is great but stop pushing beliefs!
But we all know a cyclist diet is coffee and cake based!
Merry happy holidays everyone!
Again great work GCN! Now where's that like button...
Yes Tall Paul, GCN gave all dietary types a fair crack at the whip here yet as usual, all the crazy vegans come out and criticise people's choices.
tall paul facts
alan hall CRAZY VEGANS!!! TRUTH!!
Now I'm waiting for Durian Rider strike back
where are my pop corns
Horizons
CADence for the win, Bananas for the GAINZ :)
+Horizons can't handle the truth..
+Simon Rano Carbstrong keeps your nana strong.
+Horizons Why does no one like him? I've never seen one of his videos
+Simon Rano
It will be a real boxing match!
Leucine, in the sky, with diamonds.
Underrated
Durian rider is going to be pissed
+james grainger Who is Durian rider?
His a bogan
+james grainger yes he is
+james grainger yes he is
+Usici youtube search him then you'll know.
In just 7 minutes, this has taught me more than I have learned from doing 2 years of GCSE Biology :)
Very informative and don't let those nasty, poisonous vegans tell you otherwise.
Love Durianrider and GCN, please don't fight :(
Ride for peace!
this was a great video, loved the short clips of Matt too especially the science ones
A word on those cans of Tuna lurking in the foreground, they are full of mercury. The suggestion is no more than one a week. The Snapjack tuna contain the least and the other varieties like Bluefin and Yellowfin contain three times as much.
i train 3,5 hrs a day (2hrs on the bike 1,5 hrs in the gym) and i'm fine at 100g of protein per day. #ctfu btw 3g of leucine are only 175g of raw lentils.. so if you make a lentil soup after your ride, you can easily cover all your protein needs and compared to protein powders its jummy and filling too. i dont think that video is that bad as ppl say in the comment section, since they mention that you can get ALL YOUR protein needs on nearly any kind of well balanced diet...
This video was basically a commercial for the supplement that you featured in the video. You used chickpeas as an example of an "incomplete" protein and were worried about essential amino acids. If you would have done your homework you would have noticed that even if you eat nothing but chickpeas you would still get more than sufficient amounts of total protein (150g in 3000kcal) and way more than the daily recommendations for each essential amino acid. Actually, you would also get 11g of leucine, of which you seemed to be worried specifically. An even more extreme example: eat just potatoes, and you would still get enough protein and all the essential amino acids (60g protein and 4g leucine in 3000kcal). Furthermore, you could have mentioned how much calories riders consume during the TdF: about 7000kcal a day. No one watching your videos needs these amounts daily, and surely they will not need the ridiculously high 3g protein per kg of body weight.
love these older vids from gcn
Fantastic video men! Started watching expecting to be bored out of my mind, but it was very good.
Thanks a lot for your advice. I’m a beginner in road cycling. Every question I google, you guys have already made a video to answer it. ❤️
i missed this one when it was posted. So good! Thank you.
Missed it but good info been looking for some data on this.
Protein blends are handy in that varying digestion rates gives a steady flow into the system and prevents waste.
'you know who you are', yes so do we,he is the legend that is Durianrider😀
+RTD RD Meat is not murder it is life
+andypaul999 I have never understood his popularity. A hatred for carbon frames combined with unending curse words does not pass for intelligence to me.
+Brian Moore
Totally agree! I just can't stand his video. You don't need to use profanity to make your point.
All he does is click-bait and provoke response in his videos. But he seems to have a cult following.
+Christophe Mikaelian you can't decide on life you can only live it
+Justrolling I'll drink an SIS REGO to that
I love the song in the background, never thought I'd hear it on GCN :)
Wheres durianrider at to back me up!!
Great video. Not too complicated, just advising us that don’t know better. Cheers!
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative. I commute to work here in Canada almost all year long and I often feel like my body is eating my muscles because I haven't nourished it enough, especially in the super cold months. I should really eat more.
Never heard beans referred to as “pulse,” learned a new one
GCN throwing some shade
I think you should check on Katie Compton about things related to protein, more specifically what the difference of folate and folic acid can make for some people.
Great to watch cycling stuff in youtube, with this weather. Tomorrow its cycling again so thanks for a chance now to be cosy and warm watching your shows on a sofa.
By the way, could you consider to venture up north to make some testing on cycling with studded tires. Interesting factors would be to compare e.g. the wattage differences between a sleek and a studded ones. Maybe that could be tested on a trainer even.
I think the product placement is too obvious in this vid xD.
I can understand the feedback as Ive sent thousands of crew over to GCN as GCN has incredible info otherwise but this vid didnt meet the GCN standard of legit info. :(
Lets clear up some facts that are all easy to google in a few min.
1. ALL whole plant foods contain ALL the essential amino acids.
2. The incomplete protein myth was debunked back in the 80's by the very author who started that myth - Frances Lappe Moore.
3. Pro cyclists and runners abuse corticosteroids so they can DECREASE muscle mass not build it. (name one GC contender who looks more muscular now than when they were 21 answer: NONE of them.)
4. If you eat like a lean Kenyan - rice, sugar, bananas, steamed potatoes etc then you will look like a lean Kenyan.
5. If you eat like a fat aussie aka bacon, fish chips, sausage, steak, dairy etc then you will look like a fat aussie.
+durianrider I honestly think each to their own. If it works for you it works for you if it doesn't it doesn't.
Unnecessary vid from GCN IMHO
Oh Durianrider do you or have you ever taken protein supplements? just curious
I have nothing wrong with or against durianrider, so your emotional attack is unnecessary
1. I see how you can think that, 'If' i had the mentality all the time then yeah that would be pretty stupid don't you think?
To have one mentality....
IN CONTEXT which is diet, it is most certainly each to their own, it's what works best for them. I eat meat, in my opinion there is nothing wrong with that i also eat vegetables nothing wrong with that. Both are natural things, both are living growing things.
Anyway im not here to debate Vegan against the rest thing as i'm sure Durianrider will put me in my amateur place
2. For starters the human species happens to be at the top of the food chain.
A Lion for starters eats meat, other animals, right?
By your logic you seem to be forgetting that when we were forming as a species we would also eat meat of others and even ourselves, so essentially your argument is going against your new found beliefs.
3 Now i never said anything about calories, I know that already everyone who did basic year 10 PE knows that.
Just like everyone should know there are three main fuels, Carbs, fats and proteins.
You need all three to function efficiently, as i'm sure you'd know. So fat intake is just as important as carb intake same with protein. It all goes hand in hand.
so yeah derrr you need carbs i never said you didn't
4. I hate the logic of "if you want to became as fit as...." That's an issue. When you start comparing someone else's fitness and health that's when you have missed the point entirely. All this is about improving oneself not trying to be "as fit" as someone. Now you do realize people have different body shapes and different chemical reactions in their body and about 10, 000 other different things we have going on in our body, its what makes us different and unique after all.
So it's what you feel like, if you want a Big Mac eat a Big Mac, it may clog your arteries but that's not your choice to make.
To finish and to go back to your starting point please think about what you say, my intention isn't to start a fight or anything like that, but when you insult my logic with a bunch out of context bullshit then I won't be such a nice person.
And MATE if you think you can change my ideas on life and other ways of me living it in a comments section on TH-cam on the internet when you don't know a thing about me or my way of life then you must have one big mother of an EGO
So have a nice day!
Cheers
Jimmi
+Notinserviceij of course he has he has also taken steriod he talks from research and experience not from BS
saam pourteymour are you speaking on behalf of him now are you?
i'm simply answering your question.
How can you tell if someone is vegan?
He will tell you.
+Indulonman Hi, I'm vegan, how are you?
Fine, thanks for asking.
i dont eat meat or any other animal products.. Because of the availability and cost of fruits and vegetables here where i live. bananas are literally growing beside the road and know one is taking them because its so abundant.. Yet i dont consider myself as a vegan.. why? because being a vegan means you constantly have to argue with people either in public places or in the internet.. im perfectly happy riding my bicycle and eating fruits and vegetables with my family why seek out enemies if you have none?
*Like*
+ilikewasabe because its boring without enemies
But you went on the internet to tell everyone that you're a vegan who doesn't tell everyone you're a vegan... Hmmmm.
Mark White but im not vegan, i just dont eat meat or any other animal product. I dont hate people that eat them. Its their choice anyway
+ilikewasabe You do realise that if you "don't eat meat or any other animal products" then that, by definition makes you a dietary vegan. It doesn't matter what you say or think, that is the definition of a dietary vegan. If you don't use any other animal product then you are a vegan. I absolutely applaude your choices, I'm a vegan myself and not afraid to admit it or label myself as such. You're either confused or attention seeking by posting comments such as your original on the internet , but either way you are at least a dietary vegan. Face it. Well done, but face it.
James, have a Q.
You said you'd have to explain a missing cambelt proof ( meaning you'd set a keen price and trust they'd acknowledge and get it done )?
i've never done cambelts on the 10,000 cars sold and seen maybe 200 proof's. The trade almost never has the margin to do belts on every car
The Audi is a good buy ( A1 )
i20 Hyundai's have tailgate and paint flaking problems , big time. It's an i20 thing
Motorway is more at 6k fees than £250 ex VAT, likely total cost Inc VAT about £320, prob £269 ex VAT
i get having sponsors... but you can't spread lies to sell their products. extremely disappointed.
agreed, this is disgusting and shameless sis promotion
+Johnny Hanel What lies are we talking about, exactly? The only related claim they made is that intake of protein intake, particularly protein that includes the amino acid leucine, is important after a workout to stimulate muscle growth. From the study below, " After exercise, recovery of muscle protein synthesis requires dietary protein or BCAA to increase tissue levels of leucine in order to release the inhibition of the initiation factor 4 complex through activation of the protein kinase..."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16424142
Love GCN, but I agree when it comes to this video.
@@leemoore8154 well it all comes from the bodybuilding world and its a billion dollar scam milk powder labelled protein. Steroid using celebs endorse the milk powder. There is protein in peas the highest amount in any vegetable. So why would anyone want to bulk up on protein powder that is full of artificial sugar and flavours also gives you gas not too healthy.
Hey guys. Good episode, I have a question about cricket protien. is that a good scource to consider? Or better to stick with endurance spacific powders?
How many GCN viewers pump out 170km a day like a grand tour rider and thus need 3g/kg of body weight? Deliberately misleading video. Off season vids have been poor so far
At 4 min :34 seconds they say you need to eat nuts to absorb leucine. But, the example is peanuts. Which are more closely related to legumes, right? So, should it really be nuts like almonds, walnuts, or pecans?
High leucine foods include cheese, soybeans, beef, chicken, pork, nuts, seeds, fish, seafood, and beans. The recommended daily intake for leucine is 39mg per kilogram of body weight, or 17.7mg per pound. A person weighting 70kg (~154 pounds) should consume around 2730mg of leucine per day.
I am concerned with a piece of information that you gave in the video: a human can digest only 20g of protein per hour. if that is correct, then using the 1.5g protein per kg of body weight per day formula, I would have to eat 8+ meals per day (I am 108kg)! Is that correct? it seems impossible!
Could creating how to repair torn muscle after cycling long distance.
what about commuters?
i perform about a 30km total commute per weekday
is commuting considered regular training or less than regular training?
Gonna totally bought and paid for by special interests!
would it be ideal to combine beta alanine with whey protein when enduro racing?
A nephrologist friend of mine has told me that excessive protein supplements can (and often do in body builders) cause kidney failure. Do not over do it, you don't just pass it away!
At 180 lbs, I eat around 150 to 250g of protein in a day. I eat less protein and more carbs on days when I ride, and scale up the amount of carbs and calories depending how much I ride. Been able to slim down my waist while increasing the size of my legs, and feel great on the bike as long as I plan to have enough carbs prior to and during the workout.
my favorite anino acid is methionine, its the most important because it's the chain starter, coded as AUG codons from the mRNA
Despite watching Durianrider for years and becoming Vegan this is a very well balanced video guys, much better than the SiS one you did a while back.
Is there a bioavailability difference between discrete amino acids in lab made supplements such as you might find in sports nutrition drinks vs. whole food proteins with their balanced array of proteins, fats, carbs and phytochemicals?
Hey, I am interested in the study you refered to, that says you can only digest 20g protein an hour. Could you poste a link or the name and author of the study? Cheers mates, thumbs up :)
When riding what do you suggest the gap in time that you should consume protein.
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Watch athlean-X. Or schreded sports science. There is no anabolic window. This is complete noncense. Just like tis video....
seriusly watch the other stuff
Are you guys in the shire?
bro science everywhere... you don't need more than 1.8g/kg. for endurance sports 1.5g/kg is enough. to OPTIMIZE protein sinthesis you only need to do 3 or 4 meals a day and make sure that each meal contains 30 to 35 grams of protein.
that's broscience too!
what specific statement is broscience?
+Carolina Moniz 30-35g of protein per meal is a bit arbitrary? Not taking into consideration age, weight, gender, activity levels etc
am i the only one that finds this 'durian rider' chap incredibly annoying for more that 30 seconds at a time???
No
KushPizzaSleep fair enough, your probably right, i just find the way he shouts at you annoying- but meh, each to they're own, a lot of people like him! and he's probably a much better cyclist than me aswell :L :)
I'm Vegan! And my performence has gone up, I feel so much better in general and my restauration time has gone down! #carbthefuckup
+John Bak Lost 15kg going plant based loving it.
+John Bak
Well, good on ya! I tried to go full veggie for a month or so, but that was all I could do, because I felt kind of "sick" in the end. Not very good at all. The reason for this is not clear to me, but some time a go I read an article that said something about that there's at least two body types out there in the pool of humanity. One mainly omnivore and the other mainly vegetarian. So it might be the reason why I felt bad.
I don't know if the science behind the article was/is BS or not.
+Runar Damnes there are only one body type! And that body eats plants, you need to eat more on a plantbased diet to get enough kcal!
+PlantPedaler awesome, and greate :)
+Runar Damnes And have you noticed how angry vegans always seem to be? They seem to automatically develop a hatred for anyone that does not believe in their path. I don't run around yelling at people on the internet telling them that they must eat the way I do.
track-ID please?
You wrote that in the information section below the video in the past. Please do so again!
I'm confused here - They state the body can only absorb around 20g of protein per hour, but they also state that for their day after day endurance rides they would need 210g of protein per day, so to satisfy that they would need to consume the 210g of protein across 11 hours?
Your nutritional advisors are about 30 years behind on their reading of the literature with the legume/grain combining to get all amino acids. You do need both, but you don't have to get them in the same meal. If you want to broadcast information to a large audience, you would be wise to get more than one opinion, just as you would for a story on the less important best chain lubricant.
So if I'm doing some tour riding and out on the bike for 4-6 hours for some consecutive days is there a way of getting a protein hit on the ride?
I mean a nice coffee stop latte sounds like a great idea every hour but might slow progress.
A liter of milk...which is what goes into about 1/4th lb of cheese.
Much easier to enjoy when kicking back after a ride. No idea if the amino acids/proteins survive aging or if there is some breaking down, though.
Hi. A lot many people talk about the advantages of sports nutrition coming in the forms of gels, bars and powders and they being economical, but, to state a fact, it isn't so in India. As most of these products come from abroad, one serving costs anywhere between Rs.100 to Rs.150. So, if you are to have at least 3 servings on a day-long ride, that sums up to be not so an economical advantage considering you also have to keep money aside for the 'real' food as well.
Be obliged if you could talk about concocting natural food and the split as to when to have in full-day rides.
I like touring and though I am yet to go on multi-day tours, but one ride lasts for anywhere between 80 to 120 kms and I have noticed that the other half of the day doesn't get to be all that fun compared to the first half.
Hi neelesh, you make a great point and actually something we've always been careful to say as well is the importance of eating "real food" on a ride. We've already got some videos on easy homemade snacks you can take with you on a ride if you search for them, and a few more will be coming out soon too :)
Can I quote this in my biochemistry of exercise exam on Monday? (Lloyd and Richardson, 2015)
Yeah, BRO-SCIENCE !
Actually an excess of protein can damage one's kidneys, I suffer from a Stage 2 kidney disease. Please don't advise people to eat more than 1g per kg per day without medical supervision. Athletes should at least test their creatinine and urea to check that their kidneys are functioning properly specially if they struggle to recover from long/intensive workouts (feeling tired more that 2 days later)
After some additional reading, it's seem there is no link between increased protein intake and kidney disease for HEALTHY individuals. Studies show however that high protein intake will further damage kidneys for people suffering from chronic kidney disease www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1262767/
+smachsimo Thank you for that - that myth has got to go. Unless you already have any sort of kidney malfunction, there is no danger in consuming high amounts of protein, indeed.
Ok, you covered protein. Now, what about potassium? In regards to muscle cramping, and spasms.
In the description section you guys should include the music used in your videos. Also please let me know of the song that was used in the vid. Thanks
i can only drink lacto-free milk, i think the amount of protein is the same as normal milk but do i need to have more then someone having normal milk?
Anyone have any thoughts on the benefits of creatine for recreational cyclists?
OMG ... I think I just heard someone say vegans get enough protein ... I knew there was a reason I like you guys
Pls stop even relating to durianrider in your vids. He is just not worth it... Your vids are high quality and he is... Unemployed and pathetic.
Video about protein and Amino's yet missing out on eggs completely....How could you do it gcn?
If you have excess protein you don't excrete it. You either burn it off as energy(it actually gets turned into glucose, a type of carbohydrate) or gets stored as fat.
What do you mean by excrete if you eat too much protein does it just turn into fat?
Haha, never would have thought Matt was an adventure time fan!
What track is in this vid?
That's some serious bicep mate!
Bottom line: You can get enough protein on a plant based vegan diet without have to meat, dairy or eggs...
Hahahahahahahaha!!!! Sure mate.
No, just your bottom will explode for all those beans and grains
*looks at comment section*
*sips tea*
Please post the music used in the vids...that was a nice touch.
Regards,
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Darude - Sandstorm
+yelpspoon Labyrinth Ear - navy light (4am mix)
can we have more videos on nutrition please
After cycling eat alot ... Drink beer with a cigar and then sleep
a cup and a half of nuts sounds like just slightly more than what I usually eat if I can. raw unprocessed nut fat is the best fat I've found for me joints and general laboring, the arteries don't mind it either.
What's the name of the song in the background?
Wow! This video has sparked some heat from the vegan crew.
I thought it wasn't bad, at least they spoke about protein in plants and combining different plant foods to gain a balanced amino acid profile.
I always take extra protein just before climbimg a hill or doing squats in order to give me that extra boost against gravity ;)
God forbid they provide information generally accepted as fact within the scientific community in an easy to digest (oh yeah) format. They even go as far as showing that all major sides of dieting philosophy are completely acceptable. I'll be sticking with 500mL of choco milk and a banana or two post ride, but chapeau for a solid video.
numbers don't add up and contradictory.
20g maximum absorption every 2 hours (being generous).
16 waking hours, so 9 2-hour windows (not how people eat).
9*20 = 180g protein maximum.
70kg @ 1.5g = 105g.
70kg @ 3g = 210g - what they say is right for them!
+B1945418525518
16 waking hours would be 8 two-hour windows wouldn't it? Unless you're including a two-hour window after going to bed (which might be sensible), in which case you'd be spot on.
Either way, you're right that the arithmetic doesn't work out - unless the body's rate of ABSORPTION also increases under stress, along with the its base requirements - in which case this should have been mentioned in the video.
I don't have a stake (or perhaps, 'steak') in whole protein/carb fetishist warfare thing, but I do prefer it when the numbers add up.
where does beer and whiskey fit into all this
+Matt Holley The question is, "Where does all this fit into beer and whiskey?"
A steak a day keeps the body ready to train ;-)
110%
I wish I could afford that haha
ribeye!
+TC Kieck if i was trying to get cancer thats what i'd do
To top off the video.......
Two tablespoons of protein.
Subscribe, coffee and some protein.
What about club cyclists that also do weight training?
The question should really have been - how much SIS protein do cyclists need.
🍃 Would love to see you guys cover the topic of Vegan diet for a cyclist as imagine it could be (to a point) agenda free. So much hate & opinions on either side of the fence and it's difficult to get real unbiased information. Keep up the good work 👍🏻 Loving the comedy & info 🚴🏼💨🍃
I personally don't care about protein, I eat just high carbohydrates food and I feel so much better both on bike and in life, my blood test are always better than average people.
How many takes did it take Dan to pronounce those amino acids?
Blatantly sponsored by John West!
Can't believe you GCN guys have sold out!!
THAT JAKE HAT! i love you even more now 5:50
Boys I normally like what you have to say but this time you really need to do more research on what you are talking about. A video full of misinformation 👎
+21stcenturyleisure exactly my thoughts
+Johnny Hanel this is a great place to start www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2004nl/040100puproteinoverload.htm
Hi GCN, I really would love to get into cycling. Any tips on my recomended EPO intake?
and spanish steak is very good too apparently.
What's the song in the background?
Guys b4 doing this video you've really should do your homework. There's a TH-cam channel called NutritionFacts dot org where Dr. Greger explain the difference between animal and plant protein based on last 20 year scientific research. As soon as I hear Dr. Greger teaching people a cycling craft, I'll recommend him to tune in into your channel. In other words - stick to what you know.
anyone know the song used in the background? thanks
Durianrider will laugh at these guys. They are full of broscience