Thank you for getting right to the point and leaving out a long-winded intro like every single TH-cam channel out there that you have to fast forward through to get to the point. Seriously thank you thumbs up it's refreshing to see a video just get to the point the only people who like intros of the people who create them
"What's going on guys, we're not wasting any time; let's get into it." Friggin right on! I'm soooooo stoked! I'm sooooooooooo friggin stoked! Greetings from Saskatoon!
Great video. I've got thousands of miles on the same carrier, hauling a superbike as well. They are the perfect system for keeping room in the back of the truck for gear, and not having the expense of hauling or storing a trailer. As you stated, the proper size of hitch and carrier rating are a must.
Nice format. Refreshing to see someone who gets that we all don't want some super long intro and such. I really liked that you talked about something relevant to the video without narrating the video. Thank you!
Okay, I know this is a pretty old video, but I'm so happy I found it! I've been designing a motorcycle carrier and am looking for a way to tie down just the wheels that won't scratch up the paint. I haven't been able to find anything that would work, so nearly gave up on it. But, those TyreFix straps are exactly what I've been looking for! I'm going get a set of them now.
I have hicth hauled many rides on differnt vehicles...never a problem... on late model bronco use it to retrieve broken desert bikes too...mine was built in my garage as well as 800cc jet ski tilt rack for ocean launch ect. Use quality tie downs with redundant back ups...able to off road where no trailer could dream. No worries
Informative and clearly presented! but no actal weight mentioned. We have a similar situation with a 2015 2 dr wrangler. Would like to pack a total payload of 500 lbs on a 2" receiver. Legal weight limits could rear it's ugly head, even though it appears to be able to handle it.
Thumbs up! The toyhauler is not the answer for everyone, but I highly recommend it! It has really opened up the possibility to take my wife on rides far away from home. But we live where space / storage was not an issue on our property. Very thankful.
Definitely. Priorities! Ride safe sir. Your wife will love the Adventure/Sport-Touring Comfort when you make that jump! Pretty cool options that can do it all these days.
o the loading ramp stowage, don't use only the wingnut. use large washer, then lock washer, then wingnut. A quick visit to the home improvement store for the additional hardware.
Fantastic I purchased the carrier , and now if you can make a video on where you hooked up the straps in more detail , that would be very helpful..I thank you for sharing your video..👍👍👍👍👍
The TyreFix straps go over each wheel and ratchet to the rings on the black cross-bars. I added the Canyon Dancer purely for stability (DON'T crank them down hard or you'll damage your forks). The cross bars will flex a little when you hit bumps, and you'll see your bike jiggle in the rear view mirror, but it's solid!
Excellent video, but I have a question: Does your insurance cover in the event of an accident with the bike on the carrier? There are many instances that come to mind, like an uninsured motorist rear ending you. Or the hitch failing, etc. Thank you.
I am glad i came across this video! I have a question for you though, well, actually 2. I will be heading out on a round-the-country road trip this spring... . as much as I'd like to do so on the bike alone, I'm pretty sure I'm not up to 11,000+ miles on the bike ... so I will be taking my new-to-me Chrystler Town & Country minivan (after being a daily rider for all of my adult life, believe me, its hard to even type the word mini-van!, but I purchased it last fall due to the amount of traveling i had coming up, and have put 10,000 miles on it in 5 months!).. anyway, back to the questions... for Numerous reasons, I will not do a trailer.. so the hitch carrier is the clear solution to take Max (my Suzuki SFV650/Gladius) with me.. which is a MUST on this trip. my first question is, is it possible to load the bike onto the carrier, once it is installed, by yourself? (I will be traveling alone). and secondly, you mentioned that the combined weight of your bike and the carrier came in under the tongue weight of the hitch receiver. THis is where I am running into some concerns. In looking at the heaviest-duty , classIII hitch reciever I can find to purchase for the Town and Country, the max tongue weight I can find is 350 lbs, with a "distributed tongue weight" of 500 lbs. Max's "Wet weight" according to suzuki specs, is 446 lbs. Any comments?
@@SthrnShutterbug Jessica, you are so close to that 500 lb amount I wouldn't worry about it, safety regulations are ultra conservative to keep themselves from a lawsuit I bet you could go up to 700 lb and be fine. but two years has passed since your comment, so I'm curious how things turned out?
I have a 2012 Triumph Bonneville (530#) and want to take it on my retirement travels with my 2016 RAV4 (150# tongue weight). Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but I don't see how carrying a load in excess of the tongue weight can be good for the operation of the vehicle. I just placed an order for a single bike folding trailer called the Ace by the USA Trailer Store. It weighs only 300# so it and my Bonnie won't come near exceeding the 1500# tow limit. Safe travels to all! 🙂
I’m really considering one of these for my ‘17 r6. Seeing you use one of these with peace of mind having an expensive Ducati back there really make me believe I should get one! Thanks for the video
I think we need to be careful interpreting "tongue weight". I'm not an engineer but I think max tongue weight is measured at the hitch ball and definitely not cantilevered 2 feet beyond the vehicle where the motorcycle sits. Secondly, I think the tongue weight is measured as a static load and not a dynamic load. This is important for a hitch carrier since that cantilevered load is continuously bouncing up and down. Compare this to a trailer where the hitch ball takes the static forces and the trailer wheels absorb and support the extreme forces resulting from bouncing around. In my case, I couldn't use my new Black Widow SMC 600 on my extended Sprinter truck because my own calculated "safe" load (roughly 330 lbs) was far less than the 500lb tongue weight limit due to the load being placed two feet out on the "arm". I was also concerned about the fact that the extended Sprinter does not have a full heavy frame supporting the hitch. The extension on the Sprinter looks pretty lightweight from underneath the vehicle, and the hitch receiver is 6 ½ feet behind the axle. Too much potential for failure for me to be comfortable.
Yea..these people putting on a unibody SUV...not good. I don't think I'd want 600 lb tongue weight on a unibody SUV. It's the same idea with new pickups....towing 12,000 lbs with a 1/2 ton pickup....not good. I always maintain distance anytime I see a SUV towing/hauling anything.
Yes, something to keep in mind, however note that you can calculate the actual load if it were to be straight down on the hitch (because the hitch in itself is a lever arm) and you can easily determine if it is safe or not. In addition there is often a safety factor of at least 1.5 in systems like this, so if your tongue weight is adequate and your carrier does not have an overly lengthy arm, it will probably be OK.
Is that a disk lock alarm I see on your front wheel (time 2:43 minute)? Do you lock and set alarm only when you stop? Great video and thanks for posting it.
My sport bike is under 400 lbs. See dual sports and dirt bikes advertised on these, but no street bikes. For a 600 lb expensive bike, I'd prefer an enclosed trailer. Thanks for showing us it can be done though.
Thanks for this video. I have similar restrictions of space as well. I got the same type of carrier although my car won't hold it but I have friends that have the towing capacity on their trucks and vans. I got regular Rachel belts but I like the one you got. It seems better for the bike and more secure.
For a normal car the vertical max load is often 70kg, when it can easily tow 1,5 ton trailer. I am sure in all over EU ( and probably anywhere) police can stop you and give you a ticket for not respecting the maximum limits specified by the constructor. And it's not 5% more, but more around 300%...
Wow! did this actually work. The forces acting on the hitch are crazy. There are things called moments of a force. Moment of force = F x d. That d is what I'm talking about. You need to consider the distance from the hitch to the bike COG otherwise the torque (Nm) on the hitch could get pretty high. But that's not the problem, the problem is the rotational mass because the bike COG is either on one side of the hitch or will shift to either side as the car bounces around. I doubt the hitch properly reinforced to withstand high moments of inertia (rotational inertia). Tongue weight is purely vertical force acting at a distance (d) from the hitch. I doubt the test hitches by tipping trailers over to test the rotational strength.
hi mr dutchman, thank for your video. this is very helpful. could you update us with your set, have you changed your towing setup>? vechile ,hitch and or motorcyce?
Just ordered an after market hitch for my 2002 BMW X5. Max lounge weight is 600lb. Will be putting my ninja650 which is "465lb wet" and bought the previous version of this carrier, give or take 100lb. Giving me approx 570lb. The tongue weight is almost maxed, but i hope it wont give me any problems
how did this work out? for a trailer with wheels is different from a hauler with no wheels given that there is a lot of torque applied with the hauler.
Great video mate. Just wondering if you have had any problem with the santa fe chassis? I'm about to instal one on my santa fe and the provider said the rack + the bike (aprox 110 kg) would damage the chassis. Please share your experience with us. Thanks in advance
Great content, thank you, I just ordered one of these. Looks like it works fine, I have a Versys 650 that weights 449llbs so it should do great. also, I have 2 400's so this will be great for taking the bikes in for service saving my wife from having to follow me out there. Happy wife happy life right! LOL Get after it.
How can you possibly equate tounge weight trailer to the torque in addition to weight that will be in effect with such a carrier? Quite a poor comparison and useless for my purposes.
Going to get one for my 899 as well. I like how you ran through your logic, for me its more of that I just don't want to always ask someone to help me get my bike up my truck....and down. TRD PRO raised a bit. So this would be perfect
Hey @saleenr6. Im buying a 2020 trdpro and carrying my 899. I was thinking about getting this, but im concerned about the 500lb tongue weight. Did you reinforce it or buy something else?
what's the tongue weight capacity you suv has? i believe the panigale(>350lbs) + carrier(>60lbs) total over 400lbs definitely exceed maximum tongue weight of your vehicle. You haul your bike without any problem at driving?
Great video. I have a question tho, are you worried at all about the main support beam (that connects to the hitch) bucklering? I want to get one of these I’m just not sure if it’ll support the weight of the bike for extended periods of time. I have a 2009 Yamaha R1, roughly the same weight as the 1299.
Thanks for the informative video. Are you concerned about someone rear-ending your car and damaging your motorcycle? Is there a protective motorcycle shelter or case you could use?
Hello, great video.I transport my ZX 14R in my pickup truck.I use canyon dancers and 2 traps for the rear.I like the idea of the tire straps you have.Can I ask where you bought them.Thanks.
What are you using at 0:42 I've been looking at this hauler as a way to take my bike on all the road trips I take for work in my company truck, and saw just before you tighten this thing down it was very loose. Does this come with the hauler or was this something you bought to stabilize the hauler?
You're a very brave man to have that weight hanging off the back of the car without any supports. You're not considering the to and fro movement, or the bouncing as you drive over bumps - this is a metal fatigue experiment in its crudest form. Towing a trailer has a completely different effect on a tow bar, where the vertical load is often limited to 70kg, or so.
Really nice vid- informative and to the point. I have a 2008 Honda CR-V fwd and I’m thinking of buying that system as well so I can load my 2021 Honda zoomer scooter from México to the USA. My question is what kind of tie downs did you use?
This motorcycle carrier looks workable. How do you handle a lack of visibility of license plate? Florida has a severe rule and punishment in respect of that.
Looking at doing a very similar thing, i have a triumph tiger 800 coming at 460 lbs was a little worried that it might pull the floor out of my car, its a lot of weight to hanging off the floor of your car,
I’m thinking of getting the the same thing to carry my Ducati Streetfighter, but I wasn’t really sure if you could trust it. Evidently you can, did it make a little hesitant the first time you hauled your panigale on it?
I'm looking to haul a 505lbs NC700x on the back of a Toyota Highlander Hybrid. Because of the exhaust design, manufacturers only make class 3 receiver for my car. And all of these class 3's only have a tongue weight of 350lbs. The SMC-600R says it supports class 3 receivers. If my bike is 505lbs, and the receiver tongue weight is only 350lbs, then it doesn't work, right? I'd love anyone insight on my situation.
Pardon my ignorance, but that's a pretty heavy bike being held on to an aluminum rack by the wheels, using straps. I suppose there's certain grades and road conditions you can't drive on with a bike mounted that way behind the car?
First off great video. Quick Question - what is the bracket you slide on the hitch with the four bolts? I see it is used to stabilize the carrier to the hitch. Does it come with the carrier or did you buy it separately? If bought separately - where did you buy it from? Thanks!
This is awesome I’m selling my car for a sprinter van that I’m going to convert into a tiny home and then buy a motor bike for me to go work as I’m a community nurse I can’t haul a sprinter van! But I wasn’t sure if you could attach a motorcycle to car/van without using trailers!! Perfect thank you
Were you able to push the panigale up the ramp or use clutch/throttle? Also, what is the best way to bring it down the ramp, is it a one or two person job? Lastly, do you tighten the wheel chuck once the wheel is seated? Thanks!
I don't trust those .. That's why the ones I make are made out of the thick metal tubing that the entire reciever system is made from and I have support bars and welds all over .I weld picture and stunt cars for a living so I've built all kinds of crazy things. With mine the bike or whatever your hauling is safe the platform if fully supported and enterchangible with other platforms for what ever I'm hauling. Mine locks the bike in place so it cant fall over as you strap in on. And theres no sketchy ramp to push or ride up. A girl scout can load my gsxr 1000 by herself.
have you been pulled over for obstruction of your plates and tail lights? I love the tire straps, I just don't know if my corolla can have a hitch with my ninja 650 on it.
Thank you for your short video, Just received the same carrier for my 600RR .. I watched your video and notice the tire loop and the cradle are not as per the manual suggest, is that cause of DUC and/or are you distributing the weight for YOUR car ... your suggestion please jc
Hello m y friend. Thank you for such an informative and straightforward video. Question? I am moving from Boston to Miami in two weeks and I am planning to rent a car (one way only) to bring a few small boxes with my stuff. I will need to bring my Yamaha 650 ER-6n with me. Therefore, what car would you recommend me to rent? I also notice you your car has a DUAL hint receiver and I had not seen those before. Thank you in advance
It’s critical to understand your car’s tongue weight rating before carrying your bike. My BMW X1 had a max tongue weight of 250lbs and since my bike is over 400lbs this could be a bad scenario.
Good review. What's the height of the tow hitch to the ground ? I have a similar aftermarket hitch and I'm concerned about ground clearance and sag issues. The carrier looks like it's not that high off the ground. Have you measured it? Have you had ground clearance problems?
Thank you for this excellent video, may I ask what was that long dark grey extra tray you attached right at the end? It looked like another track for a second motorcycle, but I doubt that since it was only attached by you with two wingnuts?
Does the tongue weight on your vehicle matter? Or is it just what the hitch can carry? I’ve been told that my heels tongue weight is 200 but I’m getting a trailer curt trailer hitch installed and the tongue weight for it is 525. The motorcycle I’m trying to put back there is a Honda cb300f so about 350lb and the rack will be around 50lb still 125lb under the limit. I just want to know if the people telling me that me Jeep won’t handle it are right and I shouldn’t waste my money or if I can get it. I have a 2018 Jeep Renegade latitude. Edit- it will be me and maybe my brother going and picking it up for a 7 hour drive back. Nothing else in the vehicle other than fuel.
Hey! So I have a JL Wrangler with the two package. It comes with the class two hitch, and while I’m only using the carrier to drive about 10 miles tops, the tongue weight is too much for the class II hitch recommendation. My question is what hitch did you get to allow that much tongue weight. I haven’t had much luck in my search.
@@Dutchman0 Good to know. I actually was able to find a class III hitch yesterday with 675lb tongue weight, so I think I'll be good. Thanks for the info!
Hey, Love the Ducati and am about to check out more vids on your channel. Just wanted to let you know that there is a channel called Auto Accessories that has copied your video, put their own intro on it and don't link your channel at all. I had to search for a few min to find your channel so that i can check out some of your other content.
Can you unload the bike without any help? I'm thinking about getting one, but I'm going solo. I'm afraid of the bike tipping over when I'm unloading it.
Thank you for getting right to the point and leaving out a long-winded intro like every single TH-cam channel out there that you have to fast forward through to get to the point. Seriously thank you thumbs up it's refreshing to see a video just get to the point the only people who like intros of the people who create them
No kidding right I hate that its nice when a man shows you what he's spossed to show you wham bam boom
"What's going on guys, we're not wasting any time; let's get into it."
Friggin right on! I'm soooooo stoked! I'm sooooooooooo friggin stoked! Greetings from Saskatoon!
Not enough youtubers do this👍
@@Dutchman0 lol leme introduced you to the unsuscribe button
Great video. I've got thousands of miles on the same carrier, hauling a superbike as well. They are the perfect system for keeping room in the back of the truck for gear, and not having the expense of hauling or storing a trailer. As you stated, the proper size of hitch and carrier rating are a must.
Nice format. Refreshing to see someone who gets that we all don't want some super long intro and such. I really liked that you talked about something relevant to the video without narrating the video. Thank you!
Okay, I know this is a pretty old video, but I'm so happy I found it! I've been designing a motorcycle carrier and am looking for a way to tie down just the wheels that won't scratch up the paint. I haven't been able to find anything that would work, so nearly gave up on it. But, those TyreFix straps are exactly what I've been looking for! I'm going get a set of them now.
Awesome! Those straps are worth their weight in gold. Let me know how your carrier turns out!
thank you for having content about motorcycles without foul language. kudos to you sir, thank you very much.
I have hicth hauled many rides on differnt vehicles...never a problem... on late model bronco use it to retrieve broken desert bikes too...mine was built in my garage as well as 800cc jet ski tilt rack for ocean launch ect. Use quality tie downs with redundant back ups...able to off road where no trailer could dream. No worries
Informative and clearly presented! but no actal weight mentioned. We have a similar situation with a 2015 2 dr wrangler. Would like to pack a total payload of 500 lbs on a 2" receiver.
Legal weight limits could rear it's ugly head, even though it appears to be able to handle it.
Darren Schmidt how much weight did you pack? Sounds like you're suggesting max payload can be ignored, within reason.
John Bucholtz I’m in the same situation with a 2018 JL.
I remember seen one of those for the first time. A guy in a expedition carrying a massive gold wing.
Thumbs up! The toyhauler is not the answer for everyone, but I highly recommend it! It has really opened up the possibility to take my wife on rides far away from home. But we live where space / storage was not an issue on our property. Very thankful.
Definitely. Priorities! Ride safe sir. Your wife will love the Adventure/Sport-Touring Comfort when you make that jump! Pretty cool options that can do it all these days.
o the loading ramp stowage, don't use only the wingnut. use large washer, then lock washer, then wingnut. A quick visit to the home improvement store for the additional hardware.
DUDE . EXCELLENT VIDEO TO THE POINT HOW IT SHOULD BE.
Fantastic I purchased the carrier , and now if you can make a video on where you hooked up the straps in more detail , that would be very helpful..I thank you for sharing your video..👍👍👍👍👍
The TyreFix straps go over each wheel and ratchet to the rings on the black cross-bars. I added the Canyon Dancer purely for stability (DON'T crank them down hard or you'll damage your forks). The cross bars will flex a little when you hit bumps, and you'll see your bike jiggle in the rear view mirror, but it's solid!
Excellent video, but I have a question: Does your insurance cover in the event of an accident with the bike on the carrier? There are many instances that come to mind, like an uninsured motorist rear ending you. Or the hitch failing, etc. Thank you.
I am glad i came across this video! I have a question for you though, well, actually 2. I will be heading out on a round-the-country road trip this spring... . as much as I'd like to do so on the bike alone, I'm pretty sure I'm not up to 11,000+ miles on the bike ... so I will be taking my new-to-me Chrystler Town & Country minivan (after being a daily rider for all of my adult life, believe me, its hard to even type the word mini-van!, but I purchased it last fall due to the amount of traveling i had coming up, and have put 10,000 miles on it in 5 months!).. anyway, back to the questions... for Numerous reasons, I will not do a trailer.. so the hitch carrier is the clear solution to take Max (my Suzuki SFV650/Gladius) with me.. which is a MUST on this trip. my first question is, is it possible to load the bike onto the carrier, once it is installed, by yourself? (I will be traveling alone). and secondly, you mentioned that the combined weight of your bike and the carrier came in under the tongue weight of the hitch receiver. THis is where I am running into some concerns. In looking at the heaviest-duty , classIII hitch reciever I can find to purchase for the Town and Country, the max tongue weight I can find is 350 lbs, with a "distributed tongue weight" of 500 lbs. Max's "Wet weight" according to suzuki specs, is 446 lbs. Any comments?
Thanks! That's unfortunately the response I've been getting from a few other resources too... guess it's trailer time :(
@@SthrnShutterbug Jessica, you are so close to that 500 lb amount I wouldn't worry about it, safety regulations are ultra conservative to keep themselves from a lawsuit I bet you could go up to 700 lb and be fine. but two years has passed since your comment, so I'm curious how things turned out?
@@walkerskii I ended up converting my jetski trailer to a trailer for the motorcycle and towing it along!
to avoid wheelies, I've decided to shelve the JK and use our Astro.. being camperized, it makes a better base camp anyway!
Again, another real world, informative video. Thanks!
I have a 2012 Triumph Bonneville (530#) and want to take it on my retirement travels with my 2016 RAV4 (150# tongue weight).
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but I don't see how carrying a load in excess of the tongue weight can be good for the operation of the vehicle.
I just placed an order for a single bike folding trailer called the Ace by the USA Trailer Store.
It weighs only 300# so it and my Bonnie won't come near exceeding the 1500# tow limit.
Safe travels to all! 🙂
I’m really considering one of these for my ‘17 r6. Seeing you use one of these with peace of mind having an expensive Ducati back there really make me believe I should get one! Thanks for the video
You know I've watched you for a while and went for a s1000rr instead of the 1299 but think this carry mount is a must.
It's pretty handy. I borrowed a truck to load up an '85 BMW K100. I've used the carrier less and less as time goes on, though.
Also, could you post links to the carrier and straps?! thanks.
I think we need to be careful interpreting "tongue weight". I'm not an engineer but I think max tongue weight is measured at the hitch ball and definitely not cantilevered 2 feet beyond the vehicle where the motorcycle sits. Secondly, I think the tongue weight is measured as a static load and not a dynamic load. This is important for a hitch carrier since that cantilevered load is continuously bouncing up and down. Compare this to a trailer where the hitch ball takes the static forces and the trailer wheels absorb and support the extreme forces resulting from bouncing around. In my case, I couldn't use my new Black Widow SMC 600 on my extended Sprinter truck because my own calculated "safe" load (roughly 330 lbs) was far less than the 500lb tongue weight limit due to the load being placed two feet out on the "arm". I was also concerned about the fact that the extended Sprinter does not have a full heavy frame supporting the hitch. The extension on the Sprinter looks pretty lightweight from underneath the vehicle, and the hitch receiver is 6 ½ feet behind the axle. Too much potential for failure for me to be comfortable.
Yea..these people putting on a unibody SUV...not good. I don't think I'd want 600 lb tongue weight on a unibody SUV. It's the same idea with new pickups....towing 12,000 lbs with a 1/2 ton pickup....not good. I always maintain distance anytime I see a SUV towing/hauling anything.
Yes, something to keep in mind, however note that you can calculate the actual load if it were to be straight down on the hitch (because the hitch in itself is a lever arm) and you can easily determine if it is safe or not. In addition there is often a safety factor of at least 1.5 in systems like this, so if your tongue weight is adequate and your carrier does not have an overly lengthy arm, it will probably be OK.
Is that a disk lock alarm I see on your front wheel (time 2:43 minute)? Do you lock and set alarm only when you stop? Great video and thanks for posting it.
This is a great video and I loved the ramp. That’s exactly what I am looking for. I have a murano and my bike is a ctx700. Thanks again for the info.
Did you ever tow your CTX700?
I’m in the same boat, and like @Moto Dutchman I plan on throwing it on my SUV
My sport bike is under 400 lbs. See dual sports and dirt bikes advertised on these, but no street bikes. For a 600 lb expensive bike, I'd prefer an enclosed trailer. Thanks for showing us it can be done though.
How did your Sante Fe do with all that weight on the tailgate? Thinking of getting a similar setup for long road trips.
I have one of these and I love it. Piece of mind is worth every penny.
Thanks for this video. I have similar restrictions of space as well. I got the same type of carrier although my car won't hold it but I have friends that have the towing capacity on their trucks and vans. I got regular Rachel belts but I like the one you got. It seems better for the bike and more secure.
Love that you have used the tyrefixes! Awesome video!
For a normal car the vertical max load is often 70kg, when it can easily tow 1,5 ton trailer. I am sure in all over EU ( and probably anywhere) police can stop you and give you a ticket for not respecting the maximum limits specified by the constructor. And it's not 5% more, but more around 300%...
Wow! did this actually work. The forces acting on the hitch are crazy. There are things called moments of a force. Moment of force = F x d. That d is what I'm talking about. You need to consider the distance from the hitch to the bike COG otherwise the torque (Nm) on the hitch could get pretty high. But that's not the problem, the problem is the rotational mass because the bike COG is either on one side of the hitch or will shift to either side as the car bounces around. I doubt the hitch properly reinforced to withstand high moments of inertia (rotational inertia). Tongue weight is purely vertical force acting at a distance (d) from the hitch. I doubt the test hitches by tipping trailers over to test the rotational strength.
hi mr dutchman, thank for your video. this is very helpful. could you update us with your set, have you changed your towing setup>? vechile ,hitch and or motorcyce?
Just ordered an after market hitch for my 2002 BMW X5. Max lounge weight is 600lb. Will be putting my ninja650 which is "465lb wet" and bought the previous version of this carrier, give or take 100lb. Giving me approx 570lb.
The tongue weight is almost maxed, but i hope it wont give me any problems
how did this work out? for a trailer with wheels is different from a hauler with no wheels given that there is a lot of torque applied with the hauler.
Great video mate.
Just wondering if you have had any problem with the santa fe chassis?
I'm about to instal one on my santa fe and the provider said the rack + the bike (aprox 110 kg) would damage the chassis.
Please share your experience with us.
Thanks in advance
Great content, thank you, I just ordered one of these. Looks like it works fine, I have a Versys 650 that weights 449llbs so it should do great. also, I have 2 400's so this will be great for taking the bikes in for service saving my wife from having to follow me out there. Happy wife happy life right! LOL Get after it.
Awesome! Just make sure your tongue weight and percentage of towing capacity are good!
Your carrier has a max weight of 600 pounds, but the class 3 tongue weight is only 400 pounds. How did you work this out?
How can you possibly equate tounge weight trailer to the torque in addition to weight that will be in effect with such a carrier? Quite a poor comparison and useless for my purposes.
Going to get one for my 899 as well. I like how you ran through your logic, for me its more of that I just don't want to always ask someone to help me get my bike up my truck....and down. TRD PRO raised a bit. So this would be perfect
So I bought another brand off ebay, and read some reviews that the stabilizer bolts come lose, have you had that issue before?
also i noticed you tighten down the stabilizer from the side instead of from the bottom, any advantages?
Hey @saleenr6. Im buying a 2020 trdpro and carrying my 899. I was thinking about getting this, but im concerned about the 500lb tongue weight. Did you reinforce it or buy something else?
what's the tongue weight capacity you suv has? i believe the panigale(>350lbs) + carrier(>60lbs) total over 400lbs definitely exceed maximum tongue weight of your vehicle. You haul your bike without any problem at driving?
Great video. I have a question tho, are you worried at all about the main support beam (that connects to the hitch) bucklering? I want to get one of these I’m just not sure if it’ll support the weight of the bike for extended periods of time. I have a 2009 Yamaha R1, roughly the same weight as the 1299.
Thanks for the informative video. Are you concerned about someone rear-ending your car and damaging your motorcycle? Is there a protective motorcycle shelter or case you could use?
Hello, great video.I transport my ZX 14R in my pickup truck.I use canyon dancers and 2 traps for the rear.I like the idea of the tire straps you have.Can I ask where you bought them.Thanks.
What are you using at 0:42
I've been looking at this hauler as a way to take my bike on all the road trips I take for work in my company truck, and saw just before you tighten this thing down it was very loose. Does this come with the hauler or was this something you bought to stabilize the hauler?
You're a very brave man to have that weight hanging off the back of the car without any supports. You're not considering the to and fro movement, or the bouncing as you drive over bumps - this is a metal fatigue experiment in its crudest form. Towing a trailer has a completely different effect on a tow bar, where the vertical load is often limited to 70kg, or so.
Really nice vid- informative and to the point. I have a 2008 Honda CR-V fwd and I’m thinking of buying that system as well so I can load my 2021 Honda zoomer scooter from México to the USA. My question is what kind of tie downs did you use?
I used a combination of straps similar to the "Canyon Dancer" and "Tyre Fix" straps.
This motorcycle carrier looks workable. How do you handle a lack of visibility of license plate? Florida has a severe rule and punishment in respect of that.
Looking at doing a very similar thing, i have a triumph tiger 800 coming at 460 lbs was a little worried that it might pull the floor out of my car, its a lot of weight to hanging off the floor of your car,
Just wondering how’s the Spc-600R holding up all these years
Did you try a trip before the air bags?
Great video.
I’m thinking of getting the the same thing to carry my Ducati Streetfighter, but I wasn’t really sure if you could trust it.
Evidently you can, did it make a little hesitant the first time you hauled your panigale on it?
Thats a very good analysis, i was concered about weight destroin back suspension but you gave a good idea
I'm looking to haul a 505lbs NC700x on the back of a Toyota Highlander Hybrid. Because of the exhaust design, manufacturers only make class 3 receiver for my car. And all of these class 3's only have a tongue weight of 350lbs. The SMC-600R says it supports class 3 receivers. If my bike is 505lbs, and the receiver tongue weight is only 350lbs, then it doesn't work, right? I'd love anyone insight on my situation.
Ok but, what about the weight on the tow hook?
Pardon my ignorance, but that's a pretty heavy bike being held on to an aluminum rack by the wheels, using straps. I suppose there's certain grades and road conditions you can't drive on with a bike mounted that way behind the car?
Great video, seriously thinking about same setup, i have a v4, thank you
what's the tongue weight capacity of your cars. Does that play factor.
Have you have any issues with the carrier so far? What adjustments have you made or any changes that you would suggest to the original setup?
my tow bar is specified up to 75 kg and the car is a quashqai, same class like yours...how did you install the tow bar to hold 200+ kg?
Anit-tilt/sway hitch device? Do you recall the name of it or where u got it? Thanx4sharing, thanx4caring!! Neat video, NICE bike!!
First off great video. Quick Question - what is the bracket you slide on the hitch with the four bolts? I see it is used to stabilize the carrier to the hitch. Does it come with the carrier or did you buy it separately? If bought separately - where did you buy it from? Thanks!
Do you have a link to these Ace bike wheel straps?? these are genius! i have never seen them before.
Many thanks!
what kind of hitch are you using? i ahve a 2010 santa fe used a curt clss 3 hitch and was told the carrier would not be bale to hold bike
It won't and neither will his...
This is awesome I’m selling my car for a sprinter van that I’m going to convert into a tiny home and then buy a motor bike for me to go work as I’m a community nurse I can’t haul a sprinter van! But I wasn’t sure if you could attach a motorcycle to car/van without using trailers!! Perfect thank you
Bit late to ask maybe MissX but I have a Sprinter and am thinking of getting a bike rack for a Triumph Street Twin . Did you get a rack fitted?
Were you able to push the panigale up the ramp or use clutch/throttle? Also, what is the best way to bring it down the ramp, is it a one or two person job? Lastly, do you tighten the wheel chuck once the wheel is seated? Thanks!
Also any tire width issue with the SMC-600R? It seems with the panigale tire width and ramp width leaves only a quarter inch at best?
I don't trust those .. That's why the ones I make are made out of the thick metal tubing that the entire reciever system is made from and I have support bars and welds all over .I weld picture and stunt cars for a living so I've built all kinds of crazy things. With mine the bike or whatever your hauling is safe the platform if fully supported and enterchangible with other platforms for what ever I'm hauling. Mine locks the bike in place so it cant fall over as you strap in on. And theres no sketchy ramp to push or ride up. A girl scout can load my gsxr 1000 by herself.
Hi what make was the motorcycle carrier you went you please?
have you been pulled over for obstruction of your plates and tail lights? I love the tire straps, I just don't know if my corolla can have a hitch with my ninja 650 on it.
Thank you for your short video, Just received the same carrier for my 600RR .. I watched your video and notice the tire loop and the cradle are not as per the manual suggest, is that cause of DUC and/or are you distributing the weight for YOUR car ... your suggestion please
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What is the brand of the rack? Thank you
Can we get an update on this?
What air bags did you use? What about a dirt bike setup?
Hi, great video!! Can you tell me please the brand of the hitch. Thnks!
any reason you chose the aluminum track over the steel?
Hi, excelent video
What is the name of the device that is connected to the pull?
Hello m y friend. Thank you for such an informative and straightforward video. Question? I am moving from Boston to Miami in two weeks and I am planning to rent a car (one way only) to bring a few small boxes with my stuff. I will need to bring my Yamaha 650 ER-6n with me. Therefore, what car would you recommend me to rent? I also notice you your car has a DUAL hint receiver and I had not seen those before. Thank you in advance
I'd like to see someone pack a 500 lb (max payload) MC on the back of a 2 dr JK wrangler.. the receiver appears to be strong enough.. 🤔
Moto Dutchman haha! a distinct possibility.
It’s critical to understand your car’s tongue weight rating before carrying your bike. My BMW X1 had a max tongue weight of 250lbs and since my bike is over 400lbs this could be a bad scenario.
i drive an X1 as well. Glad im reading this.. i added a hitch and will tow an motorcycle trailer to the track.
you're an idiot if you think 250lbs will make or break a 4000lbs car.
thanks for this video! where can i buy this hitch?! I need this so bad!!! Love your Ducati by the way.. Ride safe
Is it legal without showing the car plate and rear stopping light? I need to move my bike as well.
Good review. What's the height of the tow hitch to the ground ? I have a similar aftermarket hitch and I'm concerned about ground clearance and sag issues. The carrier looks like it's not that high off the ground. Have you measured it? Have you had ground clearance problems?
What do you do about the brake lights and turn signals on your car being blocked?
You're a fair bit over your nose weight there - any issues?
I have a Santa Fe as well and I’m looking at doing the exact same thing. Where did you get your trailer hitch and how did you install it?
How was the trip to New Orleans with the bike on the back?
Thank you for this excellent video, may I ask what was that long dark grey extra tray you attached right at the end? It looked like another track for a second motorcycle, but I doubt that since it was only attached by you with two wingnuts?
Thanks for the great video! Saved me time in doing extensive research!
Does the tongue weight on your vehicle matter? Or is it just what the hitch can carry? I’ve been told that my heels tongue weight is 200 but I’m getting a trailer curt trailer hitch installed and the tongue weight for it is 525. The motorcycle I’m trying to put back there is a Honda cb300f so about 350lb and the rack will be around 50lb still 125lb under the limit. I just want to know if the people telling me that me Jeep won’t handle it are right and I shouldn’t waste my money or if I can get it. I have a 2018 Jeep Renegade latitude.
Edit- it will be me and maybe my brother going and picking it up for a 7 hour drive back. Nothing else in the vehicle other than fuel.
Hey where did you get those wheel tie down to reduce the load on you bikes suspension?
Hey! So I have a JL Wrangler with the two package. It comes with the class two hitch, and while I’m only using the carrier to drive about 10 miles tops, the tongue weight is too much for the class II hitch recommendation. My question is what hitch did you get to allow that much tongue weight. I haven’t had much luck in my search.
@@Dutchman0 Good to know. I actually was able to find a class III hitch yesterday with 675lb tongue weight, so I think I'll be good. Thanks for the info!
Does a carrier block brake light visibility?
Hey - I saw this video was posted some time ago.. Any feedback on how the setup stands a few years later?
what hitch class is yours? what is the weight of your bike? have you had any problems? Bought same trailer though I have a class lll hitch class
what is the name of the suspenion helpers airbag things? im interested in them thanks
Hey, Love the Ducati and am about to check out more vids on your channel. Just wanted to let you know that there is a channel called Auto Accessories that has copied your video, put their own intro on it and don't link your channel at all. I had to search for a few min to find your channel so that i can check out some of your other content.
Can you unload the bike without any help? I'm thinking about getting one, but I'm going solo. I'm afraid of the bike tipping over when I'm unloading it.
Where can I buy one from in the UK?
Thanks. Now I feel more confident to use a carrier for my R nine T using my Tacoma
Cool video. Any idea if these Tyrefix straps will work securely on a dirt bike?
Lol I’m still not sure on one of this for my bike. Are you still using it? Is it holding up?
Any issues with police about having number plate covered?
Does this work with a moped aswell?