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- SMC-600R: goo.gl/XzyZEX
TyreFix Straps (ebay): goo.gl/tupsVL
TyreFix Straps (herman USA): hermanusa.com/i...
Suspension Helper Airbags: lmgtfy.com/?q=s...
I found the best price for both were usually on ebay. Sometimes the carrier is $20 cheaper somewhere else. Sometimes the Straps from Herman USA is cheaper because of free shipping.
I'd probably pick the trailer if I had a place to store it, but the carrier does the trick!
That bracket on the hitch came with the carrier. Google "Anti-Tilt Bracket" and something similar will come up.
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Thank you for getting right to the point and leaving out a long-winded intro like every single TH-cam channel out there that you have to fast forward through to get to the point. Seriously thank you thumbs up it's refreshing to see a video just get to the point the only people who like intros of the people who create them
No kidding right I hate that its nice when a man shows you what he's spossed to show you wham bam boom
Fantastic I purchased the carrier , and now if you can make a video on where you hooked up the straps in more detail , that would be very helpful..I thank you for sharing your video..👍👍👍👍👍
The TyreFix straps go over each wheel and ratchet to the rings on the black cross-bars. I added the Canyon Dancer purely for stability (DON'T crank them down hard or you'll damage your forks). The cross bars will flex a little when you hit bumps, and you'll see your bike jiggle in the rear view mirror, but it's solid!
"What's going on guys, we're not wasting any time; let's get into it."
Friggin right on! I'm soooooo stoked! I'm sooooooooooo friggin stoked! Greetings from Saskatoon!
Not enough youtubers do this👍
@@Dutchman0 lol leme introduced you to the unsuscribe button
The 1299 looks better than the V4.
I have a 2012 Triumph Bonneville (530#) and want to take it on my retirement travels with my 2016 RAV4 (150# tongue weight).
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something but I don't see how carrying a load in excess of the tongue weight can be good for the operation of the vehicle.
I just placed an order for a single bike folding trailer called the Ace by the USA Trailer Store.
It weighs only 300# so it and my Bonnie won't come near exceeding the 1500# tow limit.
Safe travels to all! 🙂
Hear me out I have a 2017 VW Jetta. 1.8L Turbo. If I had a smaller bike lets say a 250. Yall think I could pull this off??
Okay, I know this is a pretty old video, but I'm so happy I found it! I've been designing a motorcycle carrier and am looking for a way to tie down just the wheels that won't scratch up the paint. I haven't been able to find anything that would work, so nearly gave up on it. But, those TyreFix straps are exactly what I've been looking for! I'm going get a set of them now.
Awesome! Those straps are worth their weight in gold. Let me know how your carrier turns out!
How can you possibly equate tounge weight trailer to the torque in addition to weight that will be in effect with such a carrier? Quite a poor comparison and useless for my purposes.
I remember seen one of those for the first time. A guy in a expedition carrying a massive gold wing.
Again, another real world, informative video. Thanks!
thank you for having content about motorcycles without foul language. kudos to you sir, thank you very much.
I have hicth hauled many rides on differnt vehicles...never a problem... on late model bronco use it to retrieve broken desert bikes too...mine was built in my garage as well as 800cc jet ski tilt rack for ocean launch ect. Use quality tie downs with redundant back ups...able to off road where no trailer could dream. No worries
Informative and clearly presented! but no actal weight mentioned. We have a similar situation with a 2015 2 dr wrangler. Would like to pack a total payload of 500 lbs on a 2" receiver.
Legal weight limits could rear it's ugly head, even though it appears to be able to handle it.
Darren Schmidt how much weight did you pack? Sounds like you're suggesting max payload can be ignored, within reason.
John Bucholtz I’m in the same situation with a 2018 JL.
Also, could you post links to the carrier and straps?! thanks.
How did your Sante Fe do with all that weight on the tailgate? Thinking of getting a similar setup for long road trips.
Great video. I've got thousands of miles on the same carrier, hauling a superbike as well. They are the perfect system for keeping room in the back of the truck for gear, and not having the expense of hauling or storing a trailer. As you stated, the proper size of hitch and carrier rating are a must.
DUDE . EXCELLENT VIDEO TO THE POINT HOW IT SHOULD BE.
Great content, thank you, I just ordered one of these. Looks like it works fine, I have a Versys 650 that weights 449llbs so it should do great. also, I have 2 400's so this will be great for taking the bikes in for service saving my wife from having to follow me out there. Happy wife happy life right! LOL Get after it.
Awesome! Just make sure your tongue weight and percentage of towing capacity are good!
I am glad i came across this video! I have a question for you though, well, actually 2. I will be heading out on a round-the-country road trip this spring... . as much as I'd like to do so on the bike alone, I'm pretty sure I'm not up to 11,000+ miles on the bike ... so I will be taking my new-to-me Chrystler Town & Country minivan (after being a daily rider for all of my adult life, believe me, its hard to even type the word mini-van!, but I purchased it last fall due to the amount of traveling i had coming up, and have put 10,000 miles on it in 5 months!).. anyway, back to the questions... for Numerous reasons, I will not do a trailer.. so the hitch carrier is the clear solution to take Max (my Suzuki SFV650/Gladius) with me.. which is a MUST on this trip. my first question is, is it possible to load the bike onto the carrier, once it is installed, by yourself? (I will be traveling alone). and secondly, you mentioned that the combined weight of your bike and the carrier came in under the tongue weight of the hitch receiver. THis is where I am running into some concerns. In looking at the heaviest-duty , classIII hitch reciever I can find to purchase for the Town and Country, the max tongue weight I can find is 350 lbs, with a "distributed tongue weight" of 500 lbs. Max's "Wet weight" according to suzuki specs, is 446 lbs. Any comments?
Thanks! That's unfortunately the response I've been getting from a few other resources too... guess it's trailer time :(
@@SthrnShutterbug Jessica, you are so close to that 500 lb amount I wouldn't worry about it, safety regulations are ultra conservative to keep themselves from a lawsuit I bet you could go up to 700 lb and be fine. but two years has passed since your comment, so I'm curious how things turned out?
@@walkerskii I ended up converting my jetski trailer to a trailer for the motorcycle and towing it along!
I'm looking to haul a 505lbs NC700x on the back of a Toyota Highlander Hybrid. Because of the exhaust design, manufacturers only make class 3 receiver for my car. And all of these class 3's only have a tongue weight of 350lbs. The SMC-600R says it supports class 3 receivers. If my bike is 505lbs, and the receiver tongue weight is only 350lbs, then it doesn't work, right? I'd love anyone insight on my situation.
what kind of hitch are you using? i ahve a 2010 santa fe used a curt clss 3 hitch and was told the carrier would not be bale to hold bike
It won't and neither will his...
Great video. I have a question tho, are you worried at all about the main support beam (that connects to the hitch) bucklering? I want to get one of these I’m just not sure if it’ll support the weight of the bike for extended periods of time. I have a 2009 Yamaha R1, roughly the same weight as the 1299.
This is a great video and I loved the ramp. That’s exactly what I am looking for. I have a murano and my bike is a ctx700. Thanks again for the info.
Did you ever tow your CTX700?
I’m in the same boat, and like @Moto Dutchman I plan on throwing it on my SUV
You know I've watched you for a while and went for a s1000rr instead of the 1299 but think this carry mount is a must.
It's pretty handy. I borrowed a truck to load up an '85 BMW K100. I've used the carrier less and less as time goes on, though.
Things that no one who took statics (civil & mech engineers) would ever do. That cantilevered load is guaranteed to be way over spec.
Could you read please reply with a bit more detail, at least guessing what would the cantilevered weight turn out to be?
@@walkerskii rated tongue weight is at the ball. A load that far out is like a lever pulling the hitch off the vehicle.
what's the tongue weight capacity you suv has? i believe the panigale(>350lbs) + carrier(>60lbs) total over 400lbs definitely exceed maximum tongue weight of your vehicle. You haul your bike without any problem at driving?
thanks for this video! where can i buy this hitch?! I need this so bad!!! Love your Ducati by the way.. Ride safe
Does the tongue weight on your vehicle matter? Or is it just what the hitch can carry? I’ve been told that my heels tongue weight is 200 but I’m getting a trailer curt trailer hitch installed and the tongue weight for it is 525. The motorcycle I’m trying to put back there is a Honda cb300f so about 350lb and the rack will be around 50lb still 125lb under the limit. I just want to know if the people telling me that me Jeep won’t handle it are right and I shouldn’t waste my money or if I can get it. I have a 2018 Jeep Renegade latitude.
Edit- it will be me and maybe my brother going and picking it up for a 7 hour drive back. Nothing else in the vehicle other than fuel.
I'd like to see someone pack a 500 lb (max payload) MC on the back of a 2 dr JK wrangler.. the receiver appears to be strong enough.. 🤔
Moto Dutchman haha! a distinct possibility.
I like how idiots think 300lbs will make or break a cars structural integrity, LMAO.
Great video mate.
Just wondering if you have had any problem with the santa fe chassis?
I'm about to instal one on my santa fe and the provider said the rack + the bike (aprox 110 kg) would damage the chassis.
Please share your experience with us.
Thanks in advance
Just wondering how’s the Spc-600R holding up all these years
I don't trust those .. That's why the ones I make are made out of the thick metal tubing that the entire reciever system is made from and I have support bars and welds all over .I weld picture and stunt cars for a living so I've built all kinds of crazy things. With mine the bike or whatever your hauling is safe the platform if fully supported and enterchangible with other platforms for what ever I'm hauling. Mine locks the bike in place so it cant fall over as you strap in on. And theres no sketchy ramp to push or ride up. A girl scout can load my gsxr 1000 by herself.
Nice format. Refreshing to see someone who gets that we all don't want some super long intro and such. I really liked that you talked about something relevant to the video without narrating the video. Thank you!
Have you taken into account that all your tail lights, brake lights, turn signals are obstructed??
i thought most passenger vehicle tongue weight are limited to 200lb or 300lb for big SUV. ur bike must be 350lb?
Thanks for the great video! Saved me time in doing extensive research!
I’m thinking of getting the the same thing to carry my Ducati Streetfighter, but I wasn’t really sure if you could trust it.
Evidently you can, did it make a little hesitant the first time you hauled your panigale on it?
Hi, thanks for the Vid - just ordered one from Discoutramps, will get the air bags for spring could just to balance the 4runner. Question: How does it handle the dips while on freeway/state roads.. a slight dip at 70 miles an hour ? or do u maintain tow speed limit ? thanks in advance
Moto Dutchman good to hear thank u much
Does the bike/hitch wobble or shake while driving?
No, it has one of those anti-rattle devices you torque down to take all of the slack out.
@@Dutchman0 thank you.
How’s the ramp working for ya? I’m considering getting one but a long term feedback would be appreciated.
Has it rusted? Bolts break?
No rust, but the bolts I received were really low grade. I crushed those pretty quickly and replaced them with something stronger from the local hardware store. I've been using it less and less over the years, and would probably be better off renting a motorcycle trailer.
Would this hold my mini bike Trail Master MB200
Really nice vid- informative and to the point. I have a 2008 Honda CR-V fwd and I’m thinking of buying that system as well so I can load my 2021 Honda zoomer scooter from México to the USA. My question is what kind of tie downs did you use?
I used a combination of straps similar to the "Canyon Dancer" and "Tyre Fix" straps.
what hitch class is yours? what is the weight of your bike? have you had any problems? Bought same trailer though I have a class lll hitch class
I think we need to be careful interpreting "tongue weight". I'm not an engineer but I think max tongue weight is measured at the hitch ball and definitely not cantilevered 2 feet beyond the vehicle where the motorcycle sits. Secondly, I think the tongue weight is measured as a static load and not a dynamic load. This is important for a hitch carrier since that cantilevered load is continuously bouncing up and down. Compare this to a trailer where the hitch ball takes the static forces and the trailer wheels absorb and support the extreme forces resulting from bouncing around. In my case, I couldn't use my new Black Widow SMC 600 on my extended Sprinter truck because my own calculated "safe" load (roughly 330 lbs) was far less than the 500lb tongue weight limit due to the load being placed two feet out on the "arm". I was also concerned about the fact that the extended Sprinter does not have a full heavy frame supporting the hitch. The extension on the Sprinter looks pretty lightweight from underneath the vehicle, and the hitch receiver is 6 ½ feet behind the axle. Too much potential for failure for me to be comfortable.
Yea..these people putting on a unibody SUV...not good. I don't think I'd want 600 lb tongue weight on a unibody SUV. It's the same idea with new pickups....towing 12,000 lbs with a 1/2 ton pickup....not good. I always maintain distance anytime I see a SUV towing/hauling anything.
Yes, something to keep in mind, however note that you can calculate the actual load if it were to be straight down on the hitch (because the hitch in itself is a lever arm) and you can easily determine if it is safe or not. In addition there is often a safety factor of at least 1.5 in systems like this, so if your tongue weight is adequate and your carrier does not have an overly lengthy arm, it will probably be OK.
Great video, seriously thinking about same setup, i have a v4, thank you
Hey, Love the Ducati and am about to check out more vids on your channel. Just wanted to let you know that there is a channel called Auto Accessories that has copied your video, put their own intro on it and don't link your channel at all. I had to search for a few min to find your channel so that i can check out some of your other content.
I’m so hardcore whilst the bike is being transported i would be sitting on it.
Your carrier has a max weight of 600 pounds, but the class 3 tongue weight is only 400 pounds. How did you work this out?
can i carry something heavy like a harley davidson fat boy 2011
Is this ok with monocoke body or any lisence plate ?
You know that your bike covers your rear plates right? Have you ever been pulled over by cops?
my tow bar is specified up to 75 kg and the car is a quashqai, same class like yours...how did you install the tow bar to hold 200+ kg?
Hi what make was the motorcycle carrier you went you please?
what's the tongue weight capacity of your cars. Does that play factor.
You're a fair bit over your nose weight there - any issues?
Hey! So I have a JL Wrangler with the two package. It comes with the class two hitch, and while I’m only using the carrier to drive about 10 miles tops, the tongue weight is too much for the class II hitch recommendation. My question is what hitch did you get to allow that much tongue weight. I haven’t had much luck in my search.
@@Dutchman0 Good to know. I actually was able to find a class III hitch yesterday with 675lb tongue weight, so I think I'll be good. Thanks for the info!
to avoid wheelies, I've decided to shelve the JK and use our Astro.. being camperized, it makes a better base camp anyway!
any reason you chose the aluminum track over the steel?
For a normal car the vertical max load is often 70kg, when it can easily tow 1,5 ton trailer. I am sure in all over EU ( and probably anywhere) police can stop you and give you a ticket for not respecting the maximum limits specified by the constructor. And it's not 5% more, but more around 300%...
What is the brand of the rack? Thank you
Anit-tilt/sway hitch device? Do you recall the name of it or where u got it? Thanx4sharing, thanx4caring!! Neat video, NICE bike!!
nice video... I just think that you take too long explaining that you are manly. You shouldn't care about what other people think, but then, if you care about my advice, you should ignore it...
This is awesome I’m selling my car for a sprinter van that I’m going to convert into a tiny home and then buy a motor bike for me to go work as I’m a community nurse I can’t haul a sprinter van! But I wasn’t sure if you could attach a motorcycle to car/van without using trailers!! Perfect thank you
Bit late to ask maybe MissX but I have a Sprinter and am thinking of getting a bike rack for a Triumph Street Twin . Did you get a rack fitted?
My sport bike is under 400 lbs. See dual sports and dirt bikes advertised on these, but no street bikes. For a 600 lb expensive bike, I'd prefer an enclosed trailer. Thanks for showing us it can be done though.
Nice. I had a carrier like this custom made about 12 years ago. I went overboard with the quality of steel used in order to support a Hyabusa. In turn, the welder stepped it up a notch in order to support over 1,000 lbs... One downfall was that it was hell-a-heavy. The other downfallis that I lent it to a buddy who stored it then dissappeared😠. Nevertheless, I purchased a trailer that is light weight and suitable in the back of my vehicle tucked out of sight. Check out the video th-cam.com/video/5-jOcYnTK1k/w-d-xo.html . I made it when first obtaining it. Since this video, I've learned how to work out all the kinks and have had even better trailing experiences trailing even the heaviest bikes like my Victory Vision and the 990 lb Honda Goldwing.
Can't believe that you'd risk a good bike on this setup, let alone an expensive one.
That 600lbs of bike weight is acting as a lever and you are not talking about a 40kg ball weight .which is all that car may be rated for. If you get some scales and place them under the UNLADEN carrier at the back using a length of wood so that you get zero on your scales and then load the bike, you're going to get a nasty surprise. This is PHYSICS at work and dumbassed ideas like this bring people undone. There's no way that lightweight SUV is designed to have that heavy 'tail' on it
@@Dutchman0
It's not the physics that you should be going by. It doesn't matter what the class 3 hitch rating is. The fact is that a Santa Fe is rated for only a max 220lbs ball weight. You are loading on 400lbs plus about 80 for the hitch and then having the 400lbs cantilevered. Those guys who sell these things say that you can put 600lbs on it, but for how long. When you go down the road and go through a dip, then suddenly the bike weighs 600lbs. its called Gravity.!!!!!!
I bought a hitch like this to carry a DR200 (250lbs) and on examining the hitch bar found that the wall thickness was 3mm. Pretty thin and an engineer who looked at it, predicted failure and bending. The ID of the bar was 44mm so he took a 40mm RHS square section 1 metre long and welded a 2mm strap to it on two sides. This packed it out to 44mm.
So now it's ok for a DR200 but would i put a 440 lb bike on a monocoque vehicle that hasn't even got a chassis. Not likely (and airbags are immaterial to this problem)
Excellent video, but I have a question: Does your insurance cover in the event of an accident with the bike on the carrier? There are many instances that come to mind, like an uninsured motorist rear ending you. Or the hitch failing, etc. Thank you.
Bro, is your hitch welded? do you think these carriers are safe for something like a new Rav4 with bolted on hitch? I just want to carry a moped
hi mr dutchman, thank for your video. this is very helpful. could you update us with your set, have you changed your towing setup>? vechile ,hitch and or motorcyce?
Wow! did this actually work. The forces acting on the hitch are crazy. There are things called moments of a force. Moment of force = F x d. That d is what I'm talking about. You need to consider the distance from the hitch to the bike COG otherwise the torque (Nm) on the hitch could get pretty high. But that's not the problem, the problem is the rotational mass because the bike COG is either on one side of the hitch or will shift to either side as the car bounces around. I doubt the hitch properly reinforced to withstand high moments of inertia (rotational inertia). Tongue weight is purely vertical force acting at a distance (d) from the hitch. I doubt the test hitches by tipping trailers over to test the rotational strength.
Do you have a link to these Ace bike wheel straps?? these are genius! i have never seen them before.
Many thanks!
Does a carrier block brake light visibility?
Looking at doing a very similar thing, i have a triumph tiger 800 coming at 460 lbs was a little worried that it might pull the floor out of my car, its a lot of weight to hanging off the floor of your car,
Have a 5 Series BMW, I want this to work so bad but...I don't think it's gonna work...
How much for it and where can I find it to buy ?
You don't have to have insurance on a trailer.
Hello m y friend. Thank you for such an informative and straightforward video. Question? I am moving from Boston to Miami in two weeks and I am planning to rent a car (one way only) to bring a few small boxes with my stuff. I will need to bring my Yamaha 650 ER-6n with me. Therefore, what car would you recommend me to rent? I also notice you your car has a DUAL hint receiver and I had not seen those before. Thank you in advance
Where can i get all these items? Thank you .
o the loading ramp stowage, don't use only the wingnut. use large washer, then lock washer, then wingnut. A quick visit to the home improvement store for the additional hardware.
cool video...thanks.
you cant open tail gate of santa fe haha
Could I put this on my 2008 Subaru Impreza hatchback? To carry a 2015 Yamaha R3?
Moto Dutchman yeah iv been looking that up and I wouldn’t trust it either how ever is there any possible way of increasing the tongue weight by adding more supports
Suspension air bag for coils???
Where can I buy one from in the UK?
how much doe shis affect mileage?
Any updates on this carrier?
Can you unload the bike without any help? I'm thinking about getting one, but I'm going solo. I'm afraid of the bike tipping over when I'm unloading it.
I WANT THAT!!!!!
This motorcycle carrier looks workable. How do you handle a lack of visibility of license plate? Florida has a severe rule and punishment in respect of that.
Can we get an update on this?
Does this work with a moped aswell?
Dude thanks for this damn video ! I was on the fence forever on this topic. AWESOME!
How was the trip to New Orleans with the bike on the back?
First off great video. Quick Question - what is the bracket you slide on the hitch with the four bolts? I see it is used to stabilize the carrier to the hitch. Does it come with the carrier or did you buy it separately? If bought separately - where did you buy it from? Thanks!
Hello, great video.I transport my ZX 14R in my pickup truck.I use canyon dancers and 2 traps for the rear.I like the idea of the tire straps you have.Can I ask where you bought them.Thanks.
Just cool
Is it legal without showing the car plate and rear stopping light? I need to move my bike as well.
Actually I like your Ducati
I don't think that is good idea. carrier could hold 600lb. However, car(santa fe)'s vehicle tongue rating is around 300lb.
That means, It could harmed vehicle's frame. Also most of small/medium size of SUV's are Monocoque Body (Santa Fe) not a Frame body. Monocoque body is much weaker than Frame Body. So, your bike is way too HEAVY to carry on your santa fe.
Umm... I also looking for find motorcycle carrier on my 2015 subaru outback.
How about this? www.etrailer.com/question-208854.html .Give me your opinion plz.
Is that a disk lock alarm I see on your front wheel (time 2:43 minute)? Do you lock and set alarm only when you stop? Great video and thanks for posting it.