Makes sense to add the cream etc to up the fat - i never thought of that, saving this video for next time! I raised two bottle babies (a lamb and then a piglet) on just milk straight from the jug, BUT the bottle lamb i bought to replace a lamb taken by an eagle, so I was sticking her on the udder several times a day to get proper milk for about the first week, when i then finally gave up (mom just wouldn't take the baby, and I'd have to hold her by the horns and lock my legs around her hips to keep her still enough for baby to eat) and went just bottle, but she was also already eating hay and kibbles by then, too. The piglet had mom for the first two days when i found it burrowed so deep in the nest that she had gone into severe hypothermia. We had to bring her home to get her heated back up, and decided it'd probably be best to just raise her ourselves. She also went on milk straight from the jug and grew up just fine, but we did start her on dog food and piggy kibbles (soaked in milk at first) after a few days so that's probably why.
Thanks for the comment and the information. We have also used whole cows milk with no issues. Depending on the breed and needs, the fat can help but that isn’t always 💯 necessary.
This is super helpful! I’m picking up my new bottle babies this week!!! I can’t wait!! please make lots of videos on bottle baby care!! I find your content to be well researched and reliable. As a goat newbie I am so grateful for everything I’ve learned from you already!
Thats actually a good mix! Last year we had a ewe die the morning after having triplets. We didnt have colostrum on hand. But i found a recipe online that called for Greek yogurt and raw egg with whole milk and half and half ( or buttermilk) it worked great to get us through the snowstorm weekend until we could get to town. I love the homemade touch! Lambs seem to thrive better!
Yes. We found this to be the most value based mix we can put together. We have heard about people adding yogurt or buttermilk as well. As you said, it seems they do much better off real food as compared to the powdered mixes.
@@LinessaFarms i am relearning all the old school farmer techniques. Its been over 35 years since i lived on a farm and just started my own about 3 yeaes ago. So thank you for these recipe! 😊
Cattle, sheep, and goat’s milk all have different attributes. When it comes to sheep milk, the biggest difference is fat content. Cow milk, sheep milk, and goat milk each have distinct nutritional profiles, especially in terms of fat content and other nutrients: 1. **Cow Milk**: - **Fat Content**: Typically around 3-4% fat, which can vary based on the variety (whole, 2%, skim, etc.). - **Nutrients**: Rich in protein, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. It also contains a balanced mix of other essential vitamins and minerals. - **Lactose Content**: Highest in lactose among the three, which can affect those who are lactose intolerant. 2. **Sheep Milk**: - **Fat Content**: Higher in fat than cow or goat milk, generally about 6-7%. - **Nutrients**: Contains more calcium, vitamin B12, vitamin C, and folate than both cow and goat milk. It is also higher in protein. - **Lactose Content**: Similar to cow milk, which might be challenging for lactose-intolerant individuals. 3. **Goat Milk**: - **Fat Content**: Usually around 3-4% fat, similar to whole cow's milk. - **Nutrients**: Rich in essential fatty acids and slightly higher in calcium than cow milk. It also has higher amounts of vitamin A and potassium. - **Lactose Content**: Slightly lower in lactose than cow milk and closer to sheep milk, potentially easier on digestion for some people.
Our bottle baby is 8 pounds and we’re giving her 4oz every 3 hours (she’s 1 week old) from 6am to 9pm then 1 additional feeding at midnight just to keep an eye on her in the cold barn (she’s under a very secure heat lamp). She hasn’t gained any weight. Is there a big difference in protein with cows milk? She also appears to have sore mouth I think due to the stress of being born in -10’C and rejected by mom (we found her right away, dried her off and held mom so she could get colostrum). We also gave her store bought colostrum in case she wasn’t drinking enough. But it got really cold the second night and she was chilled. I had to bring her in and warm her up.
Hello Sandra and thank you for the question. We would discourage you from feeing lambs or goats any eggs. As herbivores, they lack the appropriate enzymes to break down and utilize the egg protein properly. This is a good question we are asked frequently!
I find that giving them 3 big feeds I see a lot of bloat cases. I understand not everyone can feed several smaller feeds a day but I do prefer to feed up to 6/7 times a day.
So, the lamb/goat milk should have more fat... What about just melting a couple of butter sticks then and add to the whole milk? Just need to learn about how much to add. How do you warm the milk and till what temperature? Thank you.
Hello. Melted butter will not mix evenly into the milk due to the very high fat content (80 percent plus in some cases). We’ve seen this tried and it basically forms little fat balls in the mixture and you would have to constantly shake the bottle to attempt to keep an even consistently. We have also been told a lot of littles get scours when butter is added. Since we are making formula from already pasteurized products there is no danger in microwaving the formula. With this being said, be sure to stir the mixture after warming to ensure there is an even temperate. We generally microwave 2 cups for about 50-60 seconds. Wrist testing similar to baby formula is acceptable to test temperature. Once the lambs get big, we will start to serve it cold to keep them from eating it too fast. This is normally once we get down to one bottle a day near weaning. 👍🏻
Hi I have just saved a 3-4 day old Lamb here in Australia tonight, a few hours ago, just to clarify what is half and half ? Is it a Lite version of full cream milk ?
Sorry! Term used here in the States. It’s half whole milk and half heavy cream / full cream. It’s sold in a container here for coffee known as half and half.
@@LinessaFarms Thanks for the quick reply im guessing it could be made easily as it's not available over here ... just 50/50 those things to the desired quantity of half and half required ? Also is there a home made teat option available to get the lamb through the night for say water ? It will be 16hrs before I can get anything in the morning ?
@@wherebluemeetsgreenoutdoors yes. You can just mix it up or simply just add whole cream at half the amount. So long as you’re close, you’ll be fine. I don’t know if any hacks for the nipple. You can slowly orally drench them a tiny bit at a time. So long as they are swallowing it, it beats the alternative.
@@LinessaFarms Thankyou for your help tonight I really appreciate your time and advice... ill give it a go and see. I'll report back. Thankyou ... have a great weekend.
Did she say 16 oz three times a day? How did you get from oz = hrs to 16 oz every 8 hrs?? At what age/weight can we feed lambs more than 8oz each feeding?
Hi Sandra and thanks for watching our videos. Initial feeding will follow the oz=hours rule. Once you are able to get the lambs or goats up to consistently eating 8oz every 8 hours or 12 oz every 12 hours (depending on what works for your schedule) you can slowly start to increase your feeding amount at each feeding. At our farm we like to feed 3 times a day as we feel it is a little more gentle on their digestive system and we get less scours. By week 4 we will feed as much as they will take at each feeding. We cap our amount at 16oz per feeding. Our lambs and goat kids also get free choice creep feed, hay, and fresh water. Please make sure this is available to yours as well. Thanks for the great question. As a reminder you can located our formula directions on our website at www.linessafarms.com. In the upper right hand corner of the website you will see a link for "downloads". You will find directions here.
@@LinessaFarms Thank you for clarifying. Yes, I provide creep, hay, and water. Do you use good grass hay or do you prefer alfalfa? And also after you reach 4 weeks of age, how do you start the weaning process?
Hello. You can start the weaning process by limiting milk after you are certain they are eating creep, hay, and drinking water. We will normally take away feedings instead of amounts per feeding. We tend to take away one feeding per week until we are down to one feeding per day and we will stay at 1 feeding per day for about 2 weeks. After 2 weeks, we usually just cut them off cold turkey.
Mr. Ryan considers himself to be quite funny. He has his moments in very small circles. Although we appreciate his humor, we don’t advise adding nutmeg or cinnamon.
Yeah, sorry Phillip. We have come a long way on our videos to include wireless microphones now. The recipe for our formula mix is available for free in the download section of our website. Feel free to check out all our downloads here: linessafarms.com/downloads/
All the milk replacers to include the colostrum replacers which are powdered from the store are made from cows milk. We are sorry this happened but lambs sometimes die. We can assure you it wasn’t due to the cow’s milk unless you were giving just straight whole milk. In that case, it probably didn’t contain enough fat. Difficult to tell. Unfortunately, all babies MUST have colostrum in the first 24 hours. If this doesn’t happen, they will most certainly not make it. We hope you have better luck in the future.
@@LinessaFarms I gave up on trying to raise sheep years ago. There were so many things to overcome. I thought they'd be the easiest thing to raise because of their size. They turned out to be the most difficult. I switched to raising cattle. They are so easy to raise. Just stick em out in a field with a good water supply. Never had to worm em. Never had a sick cow. And like most of the old timers here in Tennessee, never vaccinated any of them. I just gave them a little sweet feed once in a while to keep them friendly, and they thrived.
@@spartaeus you are correct for sure. Sheep are way more difficult to raise than people assume. We appreciate you watching our videos and taking the time to leave a helpful message. If you ever decide to give sheep a try again, let us know!
Makes sense to add the cream etc to up the fat - i never thought of that, saving this video for next time! I raised two bottle babies (a lamb and then a piglet) on just milk straight from the jug, BUT the bottle lamb i bought to replace a lamb taken by an eagle, so I was sticking her on the udder several times a day to get proper milk for about the first week, when i then finally gave up (mom just wouldn't take the baby, and I'd have to hold her by the horns and lock my legs around her hips to keep her still enough for baby to eat) and went just bottle, but she was also already eating hay and kibbles by then, too. The piglet had mom for the first two days when i found it burrowed so deep in the nest that she had gone into severe hypothermia. We had to bring her home to get her heated back up, and decided it'd probably be best to just raise her ourselves. She also went on milk straight from the jug and grew up just fine, but we did start her on dog food and piggy kibbles (soaked in milk at first) after a few days so that's probably why.
Thanks for the comment and the information. We have also used whole cows milk with no issues. Depending on the breed and needs, the fat can help but that isn’t always 💯 necessary.
This is super helpful! I’m picking up my new bottle babies this week!!! I can’t wait!! please make lots of videos on bottle baby care!! I find your content to be well researched and reliable. As a goat newbie I am so grateful for everything I’ve learned from you already!
Thank you very much for watching our videos!
Thats actually a good mix!
Last year we had a ewe die the morning after having triplets. We didnt have colostrum on hand. But i found a recipe online that called for Greek yogurt and raw egg with whole milk and half and half ( or buttermilk) it worked great to get us through the snowstorm weekend until we could get to town. I love the homemade touch! Lambs seem to thrive better!
Yes. We found this to be the most value based mix we can put together. We have heard about people adding yogurt or buttermilk as well. As you said, it seems they do much better off real food as compared to the powdered mixes.
@@LinessaFarms i am relearning all the old school farmer techniques. Its been over 35 years since i lived on a farm and just started my own about 3 yeaes ago. So thank you for these recipe! 😊
Thank you both for this information. We are hoping for sheep and goat babies end of April
Very exciting! Thanks for watching our videos and keep us updated on how things go for you!
Could you use half of a carton of heavy cream instead of the half and half?
Yep. It wouldn’t matter at all. Whichever is more easily available to you or cheaper. 👍🏻
Excellent question! This leads to the next question, what is the evaporated milk for? Its just milk so why add the EMilk?
Evaporated milk adds needed fat content and vitamins in a condensed form.
When you say heavy cre is this whipping cream?
May i ask what half and half is? I'm in Scotland and never heard of that
Hello. This is usually used with coffee here in the states. It is 1/2 whole milk and 1/2 heavy cream.
Would this basically be the same as feeding unpasteurized whole milk? Since it has all the original fat and enzymes
Cattle, sheep, and goat’s milk all have different attributes. When it comes to sheep milk, the biggest difference is fat content.
Cow milk, sheep milk, and goat milk each have distinct nutritional profiles, especially in terms of fat content and other nutrients:
1. **Cow Milk**:
- **Fat Content**: Typically around 3-4% fat, which can vary based on the variety (whole, 2%, skim, etc.).
- **Nutrients**: Rich in protein, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. It also contains a balanced mix of other essential vitamins and minerals.
- **Lactose Content**: Highest in lactose among the three, which can affect those who are lactose intolerant.
2. **Sheep Milk**:
- **Fat Content**: Higher in fat than cow or goat milk, generally about 6-7%.
- **Nutrients**: Contains more calcium, vitamin B12, vitamin C, and folate than both cow and goat milk. It is also higher in protein.
- **Lactose Content**: Similar to cow milk, which might be challenging for lactose-intolerant individuals.
3. **Goat Milk**:
- **Fat Content**: Usually around 3-4% fat, similar to whole cow's milk.
- **Nutrients**: Rich in essential fatty acids and slightly higher in calcium than cow milk. It also has higher amounts of vitamin A and potassium.
- **Lactose Content**: Slightly lower in lactose than cow milk and closer to sheep milk, potentially easier on digestion for some people.
Our bottle baby is 8 pounds and we’re giving her 4oz every 3 hours (she’s 1 week old) from 6am to 9pm then 1 additional feeding at midnight just to keep an eye on her in the cold barn (she’s under a very secure heat lamp). She hasn’t gained any weight. Is there a big difference in protein with cows milk? She also appears to have sore mouth I think due to the stress of being born in -10’C and rejected by mom (we found her right away, dried her off and held mom so she could get colostrum). We also gave her store bought colostrum in case she wasn’t drinking enough. But it got really cold the second night and she was chilled. I had to bring her in and warm her up.
Can we add whole fresh eggs? We have extra eggs from our grass fed chickens.
Hello Sandra and thank you for the question. We would discourage you from feeing lambs or goats any eggs. As herbivores, they lack the appropriate enzymes to break down and utilize the egg protein properly. This is a good question we are asked frequently!
I find that giving them 3 big feeds I see a lot of bloat cases. I understand not everyone can feed several smaller feeds a day but I do prefer to feed up to 6/7 times a day.
100% correct. The more often small feedings you can do, the better off the animal will be with less episodes of bloat! 👍🏻
So, the lamb/goat milk should have more fat... What about just melting a couple of butter sticks then and add to the whole milk? Just need to learn about how much to add.
How do you warm the milk and till what temperature?
Thank you.
Hello. Melted butter will not mix evenly into the milk due to the very high fat content (80 percent plus in some cases). We’ve seen this tried and it basically forms little fat balls in the mixture and you would have to constantly shake the bottle to attempt to keep an even consistently. We have also been told a lot of littles get scours when butter is added. Since we are making formula from already pasteurized products there is no danger in microwaving the formula. With this being said, be sure to stir the mixture after warming to ensure there is an even temperate. We generally microwave 2 cups for about 50-60 seconds. Wrist testing similar to baby formula is acceptable to test temperature. Once the lambs get big, we will start to serve it cold to keep them from eating it too fast. This is normally once we get down to one bottle a day near weaning. 👍🏻
Hi I have just saved a 3-4 day old Lamb here in Australia tonight, a few hours ago, just to clarify what is half and half ? Is it a Lite version of full cream milk ?
Sorry! Term used here in the States. It’s half whole milk and half heavy cream / full cream. It’s sold in a container here for coffee known as half and half.
@@LinessaFarms Thanks for the quick reply im guessing it could be made easily as it's not available over here ... just 50/50 those things to the desired quantity of half and half required ? Also is there a home made teat option available to get the lamb through the night for say water ? It will be 16hrs before I can get anything in the morning ?
@@wherebluemeetsgreenoutdoors yes. You can just mix it up or simply just add whole cream at half the amount. So long as you’re close, you’ll be fine. I don’t know if any hacks for the nipple. You can slowly orally drench them a tiny bit at a time. So long as they are swallowing it, it beats the alternative.
@@LinessaFarms Thankyou for your help tonight I really appreciate your time and advice... ill give it a go and see. I'll report back. Thankyou ... have a great weekend.
Did she say 16 oz three times a day? How did you get from oz = hrs to 16 oz every 8 hrs?? At what age/weight can we feed lambs more than 8oz each feeding?
Hi Sandra and thanks for watching our videos. Initial feeding will follow the oz=hours rule. Once you are able to get the lambs or goats up to consistently eating 8oz every 8 hours or 12 oz every 12 hours (depending on what works for your schedule) you can slowly start to increase your feeding amount at each feeding. At our farm we like to feed 3 times a day as we feel it is a little more gentle on their digestive system and we get less scours. By week 4 we will feed as much as they will take at each feeding. We cap our amount at 16oz per feeding. Our lambs and goat kids also get free choice creep feed, hay, and fresh water. Please make sure this is available to yours as well. Thanks for the great question. As a reminder you can located our formula directions on our website at www.linessafarms.com. In the upper right hand corner of the website you will see a link for "downloads". You will find directions here.
@@LinessaFarms Thank you for clarifying. Yes, I provide creep, hay, and water. Do you use good grass hay or do you prefer alfalfa? And also after you reach 4 weeks of age, how do you start the weaning process?
Hello. You can start the weaning process by limiting milk after you are certain they are eating creep, hay, and drinking water. We will normally take away feedings instead of amounts per feeding. We tend to take away one feeding per week until we are down to one feeding per day and we will stay at 1 feeding per day for about 2 weeks. After 2 weeks, we usually just cut them off cold turkey.
I like to add a pinch of nutmeg
What is the purpose of the nutmeg?
@@mossyhillfarm7344 I use cinnamon sometimes too.
I feel more like a barista
Mr. Ryan considers himself to be quite funny. He has his moments in very small circles. Although we appreciate his humor, we don’t advise adding nutmeg or cinnamon.
I hope you watch townsends! You would fit right in. lol
@@LinessaFarms Tim has the wisdom of many, many, many years on me and is, of course, completely correct.
Sorry but volume low and I’m hard hearing
Yeah, sorry Phillip. We have come a long way on our videos to include wireless microphones now. The recipe for our formula mix is available for free in the download section of our website. Feel free to check out all our downloads here: linessafarms.com/downloads/
I tried feeding a baby lamb with whole cows milk. It died within a day.
All the milk replacers to include the colostrum replacers which are powdered from the store are made from cows milk. We are sorry this happened but lambs sometimes die. We can assure you it wasn’t due to the cow’s milk unless you were giving just straight whole milk. In that case, it probably didn’t contain enough fat. Difficult to tell. Unfortunately, all babies MUST have colostrum in the first 24 hours. If this doesn’t happen, they will most certainly not make it. We hope you have better luck in the future.
@@LinessaFarms I gave up on trying to raise sheep years ago. There were so many things to overcome. I thought they'd be the easiest thing to raise because of their size. They turned out to be the most difficult. I switched to raising cattle. They are so easy to raise. Just stick em out in a field with a good water supply. Never had to worm em. Never had a sick cow. And like most of the old timers here in Tennessee, never vaccinated any of them. I just gave them a little sweet feed once in a while to keep them friendly, and they thrived.
@@spartaeus you are correct for sure. Sheep are way more difficult to raise than people assume. We appreciate you watching our videos and taking the time to leave a helpful message. If you ever decide to give sheep a try again, let us know!