M3 Grant Tank - Home for my Radial Engine Beltring 2005
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- This is where my Radial engine ended up... in an Ex Range Wreck M3 Grant Tank.
The video shows its first outing at the 2005 War & Peace show down in Kent. "restoration" was by Carl Brown of C+C Military. SEE Video of engine running , on my drive, before it went into the Grant • Continental R975 Wrigh...
Rescued from target duty and rolling under its own power! Wow! What an amazing piece of work!
it is remarkable... 😎👍
Wonderful to see an historic old tank like that saved from oblivion. It can still tell so much to so many.
Restoration was done at Cand C military, was saved as it was one of the first of 2 grants shipped to britain for trails. Ended its life on Pirbrite ranges as a infantry anti tank target and most of the holes are 3.5 inch bazooka. I helped recover it in 2003 and did some of the wiring and refited a clutch to engine as it did not have 1.
please take more videos and upload them I want to see more of this legend
@@chicotruco I can send you some if you like
Yes evidently they put an aviatin radial engine in it I was wondering about the cooling system I assume this is still air cooled must have made up special cowling for this engine thank you foe your comments
I love the discussions as to whether it is a Lee or a Grant. I have no idea but it is interesting to see everyone's comments !!
Excellent job guys, nice to see someone breathing life back into "wrecks"
for anyone that are confused the m3 grant is the same as the m3 lee same tank just that the grant has a diferent turret but still is the same tank
(The Medium Tank M3 was an American tank used during World War II. In Britain the tank was called by two names based on the turret configuration. Tanks employing US pattern turrets were called the "General Lee", named after Confederate General Robert E. Lee. Variants using British pattern turrets were known as "General Grant")
That is so damn cool!! I cannot imagine how loud it must be inside.
Very nice scars and all ,its moving . Thank you for doing this to us , most people like it .
It is a M3 Grant, the version with the special cast turret built by request of British Army. The "neck" of the turret was accommodated to put a radio set in it, instead of the main body.
This turret was only used for the British M3 Grant (which was deployed in North Africa) and never by U.S. Army. All the others common U.S. versions (with normal turret) used under British flag were called "Lee" Mark something.
I remember standing near the back end of this grant , on starting it backfired, scared the shit out of me at war n peace 😂
lol... 👍😀
Hi paul this is Elliott. Nick Mead didn't restore this as it says in the description. This was done by my dad carl brown of ccmilitary.
I love lees. Nice restoration with just the engine!
Thanks for your comment.... (its a Grant !)
awesome video bud saving history 1 bolt at a time.
Very much a stopgap design.
"We need a bigger gun. No, I don't care where you put it." Famous last words.
Look, they put it in back to front, don't you see the state of the tank ? :)
@proteusx ever heard of the bob semple tank?
proteusx ever heard of anything made by the french
@proteusx have you heard of the archer?
@@trevvorphilip2515 French??? M3 Lee / Grant mounts a 75 mm cannon of French construction of 1895 !!! uahuahuahuah !!! ridiculous!!!
You are correct the M3 was 2 feet taller than the Panzer III or the Fiat M13. However the M3 biggest battles in 1942 were in desert of North Africa where that extra 2 feet of height make much easier to spot a long way off. It height disadvantage was compounded by the fact that the low height of the sponson mounted main gun meant that the tank had to fight in a "Hull-Up" compared to the Panzer and Fiat that could fight "Hull-Down" thus being forced to expose much less of them selves in battle
@oldview2
The M3 was actually a stop-gap tank. They needed to put a 75mm gun in a tank, but the current turret rings were not large enough to place the gun in. As an interim measure until the M-4 entered service, they placed a 75mm gun in a sponson position on a current tank. They were rotated into other theaters as soon as possible.
And suddenly the algorithm brought me here!
Glad to see the Afrika Corps didn't completely destroy this beauty.
lol... love that algorithm. How about this.... th-cam.com/video/wNZ1Jc1OHcs/w-d-xo.html regards Paul
Awesome to see one of these actually moving. Most of them are on a plinth. Cheers!
I saw this at Bovington a few years back. Very impressed how smooth & quiet the engine was, even if the rest of the tank wasn't quite so much. :P
That's a M3 lee You got there. =3 Nice find
I'm pretty sure the shaft would have had a cover over it ... well hopefully !
Cool. Some more work, parts and paint,
and it will be a beauty..
lol !
bog up the bullet holes you recon?
no one will notice you recon?
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This is actually the M3 Lee, the export version. It was shipped to the UK as part of the American Lend Lease program. You can tell from the top turret which is the British version. Great to see one running.
Indeed..... the British called it the Grant. The turret is different to accommodate the British Radio Sets.
Lend lease and not a gift because the US had the UK over a barrel. You fight the war, we'll make money.
A lot of holes in that thing! Great to see it running again after being on a range.
LOOKS GREAT
Glad to see the old Grant moving, Probably not more than a couple still running.
That is a old tank and what kind is it and what is the year and who makes it and how much did it cost new
The title of the video gives the type... M3 Grant. if you google it you may find the answer to your other questions. Regards Paul
True enough. The Grant was a dinosaur of a design before the war even started, but as a U.S. Tank, it's primary role was infantry support - and it had plenty of punch in this department. A 75mm HE round doesn't care that's it's a low velocity round when it explodes next to soft targets! It also had numerous machine guns and I believe they even had canister shot for the 37mm (I know they produced canister for the 37mm, I just can't remember if the Grant/Lee carried this ammo).
Hi... there are bullet holes all over it. The tank was on an army firing range for many years so was shot hundreds of times. The current owner (not me) restored it to running condition, using an engine which i supplied (see videos of the engine running before it was fitted on my youtube channel - or search for wright whirlwind radial engine) He decided to leave all the bullet / shell holes.... certainly a bit different. I will try and get some close up photos. cheers Paul
yes it's M3 Lee it's confirmed, seen in Museum in USA, CA state. called M3 Lee, a " Half TD and half tank " so it like a hybrid, of tank destroyer (TD) and standard tank with turret on top.
fantastic tank, superseded quickly I know but still my fave tank.
The Medium Tank M3 was an American tank used during World War II. In Britain the tank was called by two names based on the turret configuration. Tanks employing US pattern turrets were called the "General Lee", named after Confederate General Robert E. Lee. Variants using British pattern turrets were known as "General Grant"
It's a Grant. The turret gives it away. The Lees had a smaller turret for the 37mm, with no bustle overhang, whereas the Grant had the larger turret with bustle overhang. The radio was kept in the hull of the Lee, and the it was kept in the turret bustle of the Grant.
still missing parts i see..but wow..great job getting her running again
That's LaLa Bell same from" Sahara" Humphrey Bogart movie. Awesome it runs and moves.
lol... thanks for your comment. Here is my military vehicle... th-cam.com/video/ZWJUCdHUhYk/w-d-xo.html regards Paul
That things taken a pasting on the 'ol range, thanks for restoring
I like how those two people at the end of the clip seem to be oblivious to the tank rolling up behind them. Maybe you need to add a horn!
a lot of people hate this tank on world of tanks, for me, best tank ever
amazing that range wrecks are getting this sort of treatment.
Radial engines were used.... But not in many vehicles.... The Grant and the Priest SPG.... Were the main ones.... The Stuart light tanks had a 7 cylinder Radial.... And there was a diesel one to made by Guilberson..!
Its from WWII, but does have riveted armor as the earlier tanks had. It was needed in the Desert, so off it went with rivets. The Stuart light tank also utilized riveted construction.
@onigojira I must remind you, T-34 had a large and sharp slope of 45 degrees, Sherman had a blunt rounded slope, Sherman also had a very high figure and it was an easy target for German tanks and guns. Russian tankers proklyanali Sherman. They were vulnerable, had a weak instrument. Only an advantage - simplicity and cheapness of production.
I understand the owner wants to keep it as it is !
M3 Grant is the British version, has a slightly different turret. and has one less crew person (the radio operator). The Grant has thicker armour than the Lee. The Lee has a commander's cupola, which you can see this one doesn't have, so thats the easiest way to see that is is a M3 Grant.
@oldview2
The Grant was the right tool at the right time. Despite its limitations it gave the 8th Army a reliable mobile unit capable of dealing with most German armor with its 37mm gun and a large caliber gun firing an effective high explosive shell which enabled the tanks to engage the anti tank gun screen at long range . It also had the reliable suspension used on the later M-4. It previewed the positive traits of later american tanks.Reliable,mobile easy to operate and maintain.
the british named the m-3 tanks Lee and Grant according to which turret was on the tank...the original turret,with the 37 mm gun,and a smaller turret housing a 30 cal.MG was designated LEE,while the low profile turret,without the 30 cal turret(as shown in this video) designated the Grant. therefor,the tank in video is a Grant..
Hi... 9 cylinders 16 litres Supercharged 400 BHP - Air cooled !! if you search TH-cam for " Continental Wright Whirlwind R975 " you will see the engine running before it went into the tank. cheers Paul
Excellent comment.... thanks for your interest.. Paul
Shades of "SAHARA"...cool, especially with all the AP divots in it.
I hope you welded up all the holes and restored it!
The M3 Grant tank, or better known as the M3 Lee. was indeed used in WW2. Though it was an OK tank, it wasn't as good as the M4 Sherman, which later replaced the M3. It did take part in WW2.
Grant: Tis but a scratch!
Panzer IV: A scratch!? Your gun’s off!
Grant: No it isn’t.
Panzer IV: Look!
Grant: ...I’ve had worse.
Lol.... 😎
Yes. The M3 Lee (smaller top turret) had radio in the hull, while the M3 Grant (larger top turret, shown here) had the radio inside the turret.
A bit rough, but it runs. That is a good start. Seems to run well actually. Just tons of cosmetic issues to work out, and find a 37mm for it...oh and I think that 75mm barrel might be done for with that cracked barrel, ha. I always liked the look of the Lee, and the Grant is nearly the same. Kind of a so ugly it is cute thing going for it.
Thanks for taking the time to write... much appreciated. Paul
Hey Paul this is cool as crap! I love the old lee tanks. This is the only one out side of new reels from WWII that I have ever seen.
Elmer... Thanks for your comment.... much appreciated. Regards Paul
Crap is not cool. :)
Hey TemplarX2 crap enthusiast Cessna 182a here to tell you that crap is INDEED cool.
TemplarX2 Depends on how long it's been laying there.
Thanks for your comment.... agreed... great machine..! Paul
@onigojira T-34 being the best in the class of medium tanks! In the class of heavy tanks, the tank was the best Russian IS-2 and IS-3.
Excellent comments... Many thanks.
I think that there is a cover that goes over the shaft ! this vehicle is not yet finished. cheers Paul
Hi have you seen the video of the radial engine, running on my drive, before it went in the tank ?
Wow! It's really surprising how thin that side armour is. Hopefully it'll get a bit of tlc at some point.
I think they plan to keep it like it is !! Regards Paul
@@PaulDonovan Really? That's interesting. I always liked the Lee & Grant tanks, they almost look Warhammer or steam punk! I must say if like to see it brought up to its former glory.
I have restored a few British "Tanks"... most seem to have front drive. Cheers Paul
@ffjsb Oh yes I figured that one out. The Scorpion Armoured Car we have was cut to bits by a film company and then blown up and stuck back together a few times until they got the shot they needed.
In the Soviet army, where the tank was supplied under the lend-lease, the soldiers called him BM-6 - "Bratskaya mogila na shesterih" (Common grave for six persons)
The nickname "Lee" was actually used for versions with American turrets. The turret on this one is British, though.
How cool is that? I was 'given' 2 Grants to make a static restoration, back in the 90's, for First Armoured. Unfortunately, they wouldn't let me do anything with the engines. Would have been great to take one of them for a spin. Great video.
Bad tank or not, I would LOVE to see this vehicle fully restored.
Restoring a range target, well done! As for those comparing these to the German tanks, yep, they were slow, yep, the 75mm had limited traverse, yep, they were high. But they worked and they were produced in quantity. There's no point comparing these to the later Panzers. Try comparing one of the the later Panzers to 4 x Shermans or 7 x T34's, backed up by four or five ground attack aircraft like the Typhoon!
It belongs to Carl Brown and was recovered from Pirbrite. It was the first Grant received by Britain and was used extensively for trials both during and after the war.
It's last duty was for the testing of armoured ammo bins and was stripped of paint for that trial so as not to obscure the observation of the hits with burning paint.
The majority of the damage was caused by Panzerfaust and Panzershreck weapons captured at the end of the war.
Love this, seen it a few times and just love all the bullet holes..
tigers were diesel, Panthers were petrol. The Shermans didn't 'brew up' because of their fuel, they caught fire because early models kept their ammunition in a vulnerable place. the inclusion of a simple dousing water jacket virtually cured the Sherman's tendency to light up.
The M-3 was a succesful tank. It was the right tool at the right time. It gave the British a reliable fast tank capable of firing both HE and AT. When it was introduced the 75mm was capable of destroying any German tank at a good range. The Engine, transmission, suspension,tracks and gun were all carried over into the M-4 Sherman. The M-3 was rushed into production before the U.S. was able to produce a turret for the 75mm. It continued to serve succesfuly in the Far East.
nice ride, and plenty of room for you and your buddies
lol !
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Did you see the drive shaft go up the middle of the tank, I wonder how many tankers got wrapped around that?
It did carry canister shot. Also a pretty nasty AP round for the 75mm which people seem to often forget.
Hi... Yes the holes are Bullet / Shell holes !
The tank was rescued from a army firing range and the owner decided to restore it to running condition.... but to leave all the holes. Makes for a very unique and interesting vehicle ! I supplied the Engine... a Wright Whirlwind 16 liter Radial. regards Paul
How is the engine cooled? is there cowling or something to direct air?
Still imagine how intimidating that thing must have looked coming at you as an infantry man in ww2
Very intimidating 👍
WOW !! Nice rescue !!! Restore that baby !! Good luck and thanks for the post !!!
With gunner and loader typically located opposite the centrally located gun, I wonder how this offset 75mm was loaded and fired when its right side was flush up against armored right side of tank?
interesting point 😎👍
Thanks.... I think the original tank would have had a cover over the shaft.... and I assume one has now been fitted. Thanks Paul
Because that's not the main gun. That side gun is a 75mm low velocity HE gun. Meant to take on troops and fortifications. The main gun is the 37mm AT gun mounted in the turret.
Thanks Paul. Cheers and greetings to the States
i love the racing seat on top of the prop shaft
Thanks for you comment - much appreciated !
Germany had no chance. They put a clutch in it, did some wiring, drove it off a target practice field. It had been hit by how many antitank bazooka and rifle rounds and it decided to start up and drive away.
German tanks broke down under their own weight without being shot to shit.
Hi.... this tank certainly did not just start up and drive away lol regards Paul
these tanks were moved to Burma and the Japanese had nothing to throw against them but the Japanese tried anything to get them so special patrols had to be set up to watch for that...amazing stuff :)
This tank is british.... not american...
hmm, it is of an American design, called a Lee here and a Grant by the British....whatever, the basic thing was manufactured in America....it was a stopgape design...the M2 was kept for training purposes...but yours is super :)
Remembering ,lulubell. whether it's a British turret, or US Grant ,or Lee, Sahara with Humphrey Bogart, J Carroll Nash and many others, what a great movie ! They maka the tank ina of Pittsburgh,I ah, U .S a Ah, God bless you!
Peter Cofrancesco Peter.... Thanks for taking the time to write. Much appreciated.. Paul
Paul Donovan, thank you for your great video! excellent job! I did The Glenn Miller Memorial, Grove Street Cemetery, New Haven ,Connecticut. USA. You and I are keeping military vehicle history alive! Best regards, Pete.
Still crankin!
sure is !!
Thats cool my dad drove one in ww2 great to see history come back to life.
0:06 you wouldn't wanna fall back on your seat on that thing. i think its a cool tank
It was missing I think.... but I assume one will be fabricated and fitted. Regards Paul (note: i shot the video but do not own the tank)
The British Army used this tank and fitted a modified turret... it has a bulge on the rear to accommodate the radio equipment.... they called theirs a Grant. regards Paul
I agree... it has the bulbous back to the turret to house the radios
m3 grant is the same as the m3 lee same tank just that the grant has a different turret but still is the same tank
In Britain the tank was called by two names based on the turret configuration. Tanks employing US pattern turrets were called the "General Lee", named after Confederate General Robert E. Lee. Variants using British pattern turrets were known as "General Grant")
The British Turret has an extended rear section to take the larger british radio sets.
Thanks for your comment. Paul
Looking great.
Its a very cool vehicle. Cheers Paul
Mr. Donovan, are you planning a complete restoration of the tank? I've looked around the Web and youtube but can't find anything.
Terry Smith hi Terry. I'm not the owner.... I supplied the Radial Engine. My understanding was that the owner wanted to keep it as it is in the video. Essentially and driveable range wreck. However like you I have look around the Web and can not find any further information. I've not seen it at a show for some years now. Regards Paul
Correct.. its an M3 Grant
To have a radial engine in a tank.... 0.0.
Makes it win no matter what! ;D Cool vid! and a neat vehicle, though it definitely has a sore reputation from its past...
Exhausts pointed at the fuel tanks, driveshaft through the middle of the crew cab... seems safe.
yes, a Grant made at the Pullman plant in Worcester Mass.