In short, no matter what you choose, he will be temporarily travelling with the crew, not become a permanent member/Nameless. As expected, we already have 5 main characters after all.
I'm happy that the Story or should I say Shaoji make it go to this way instead of making us choose his Fate(it's a illusion of choice anyway). For me, his character development is not enough to gain the trust from the Astral Express crew in anytime soon, so it's better if they keep going this way. I'm not quite buy this redemption arc but it's kinda okay for now and I noticed that those camera ankle in this quest seem pretty odd like a rough work also EN VA for some character is missing, what a shame.
You know it would be interesting to say the least if any future characters in HSR decides to join the nameless permanently then that would be awesome👍👏
yeah thats what ive been thinking after the 2.7 program and the story just confirm it, , it seems he will play important role in the next world or something and after that i wont be surprised if he leaves or even early than that. i hope those who likes him will take that in a good way and not be dissapointed or sad, he never gave the vibes of being permanent, he says it himself, he is not fit to be, but he want to find his new path in life and i support that no matter how neutral i am about him this whole time
i understand he wouldn't want to become part of the crew indefinitely, but i hope he sticks around long enough we can see some authentic character development. or long enough that they become actual friends. not just that he would hop off the train after a couple batches without engaging and bonding in the adventures
@@skit4950 He is joining us on Amphoreus and considering how long penacony was and his motivation I’m sure he would step out the train and who knows maybe we’d get paired with Sunday
@@deathmasterkrook7924 That's kinda hinted at from the fact that in one of the shots of Amphoreus, you could see the outline of what appears to be a halo
I could never reject my baby boy like that. It physically hurts me while I was watching this. The way he is looking at the camera, ahh I can never ever reject him.
What I could tell from the dialogues, he was still unsure about becoming a nameless, so he instead say that he'll be there temporarily in their journey... i'm guessing it's going to take him a few journey to finally realize his own goal and learn the meaning of Trailblazing that'll eventually lead to him becoming a Nameless as well
I always think path meaning is different for each pathstrider. He may think he isn't suitable to be a Trailblazer now, but he doing this journey to find paradise means he in already on the path of Trailblazer. Just like Welt's path is more about the people.
Ugh, I know what he did was wrong even if he had good intentions. I still gave him the benefit of the doubt though. Kinda sad he’s not officially joining the crew though. His dynamic could be pretty funny with the team.
@@amazinglaughs Well this patch is more filler than anything sadly Sunday’s true character development is yet to come considering what we see in the amphoreus trailer he will see a world struggling. Also from what sparkle said back in 2.0 I think, Belabog has an looming disaster on the horizon maybe that would come after 3.3 maybe.
@@konodioda150That’s quite literally what a filler patch is tho. Not much happened besides teasing the next important update that’s coming. The “story” was very simple and straightforward, barely even containing anything other than the reveal the two “new” characters of the patch. So yeah, that’s a filler 😭😂
i hope everyone who listen and read those lines and conversations, understand it corretly. i know there is tons of lore skppers so dont u dare be dissapointed once he leave bc you didnt pay attention lol to be honest i choose some rejection options and some supportive but more on the neutral side bc thats how i feel about him, i dont hate him (but wasnt very fond of him joining at 1st) now knowing is temporary i understand him better and im ready to support his choices bc thats what he want to find and trailblazing is all about it !! enjoy his company while you can trailblazers no matter you like him or not.
I'd still be disappointed when that happens cz I want him to become permanent as I really feel for him as a person who really wanted good for every human so sensitively. So I'd still be sad when he leaves. It would have been a nice turn of arc for the Express crew from hoyo's part tho if the express permanently took in members, and it would have been nice if Sunday was the one to set that trend too.
If anime has taught me anything, it's that the villain who once tried to murk you can become your ride-or-die bestie through the power of Friendship. I've never been an apologist of his, but I do think Sunday's heart was clearly in the right place, he just went about it the wrong way. He genuinely seems to be trying to make amends and find a better way. He told us to sever his path with our hands, and we did, so now he looks like he's attempting to find the "right" path. The REAL sus ones here imo are the IPC...I have a feeling when Jade comes calling, that's when things will get real.
My boy Sunday dont deserve this shit. He just wanted to do something right for the universe. Praying that I get to hang out with my boy a ton in Amphoreus 🙏
I have met a lot of villains,even their motives or goals spoke a lot of their hideous personality but Sunday is not that type in my book.He just wanted to shape his homeland a better place but what he lacked is embracing the uncertainties which he was doing in the main story...everyone deserved a second chance to redeem themselves but they'll have to earn it first
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" sums up Sunday's character so well...He is not really evil, he truly believe order was the answer for the paradise he seeks
Ngl i feel so bad watching him getting rejected 😭 I'm not a super duper big fan of him but still I didn't want to reject him. Actually i love that he's joining us and i can imagine March making fun of him in the future. I actually hope he will end up staying with us cuz i would want a new nameless with us
From a story perspective I really like the idea of the trailblazer being extremely wary of Sunday and of his motives after he kinda… tried to kill them? So rejecting him and then the trailblazer exclusively calling him ‘Sunny’ despite him hating that nickname is something I’m glad I had the option to do lol.
As someone who really likes Sunday, I was really hoping he would become a permanent member of the Astral Express. But after finishing this quest, I understand his hesitation about not joining the Nameless and choosing to stay as a temporary passenger instead. And I understand why some ppl doesn't like or want him to join the Astral, after all, what he do to us in penacony are wrong Even though Sunday is my favorite character, if one day he decides to leave the Express, I’d accept it. His journey on the Astral Express has just begun; there’s still so much we don’t know. That’s why I’m really excited to see the story unfold on the next planet.🎉 Also, after finishing the quest, you can found sunday in party car, at the top right corner, there you can ask him many things, and I remember he do say he will join us on the new planet :0
tbh I’m not a fan of him getting a redemption. It was hinted that he would join the Stellaron Hunters and tbh it made sense, after his dream of Order was shattered, choosing Finality as his last option. Could’ve been interesting, but oh well guess I’ll still won’t really care about him
So he didn’t end up becoming a Stellaron Hunter or a Nameless, he’s a temporary passenger for now because he’s figuring himself out. I like that, it leaves room for both
Wow. Okay i actually legit like this choice, if Trailblazer welcome him our friend more likely to follow suit and welcome him but if Trailblazer refuse they treat Sunday more warily. Even if the end result is the same, i still like seeing this.
I do hope he goes along with us to the new place. I want to see more of him. We saw so much of everyone else including robin. And sunday we saw very little. Would like to know him better 😁
I really hope he stays with us and actually become a nameless i think it would be fitting for him especially what he have gone through before also his dynamic with the astral express would be really cute
Honestly this quest made me like Sunday a lot more than I did before, I didn't have the heart to be mean to him at all lol he gave me wet cat vibes so it was hard to pick any wary options 😅
So, in the end, it's the illusion of a choice. I love him to death tho, was really hoping there would be more of him redeeming himself in Amphoreus but alas.
I believe he will help us so much in the next world and we will want him to be one of us, that wxplains why he has a red part on his jacket, for his astral express ticket ofc, i hope he becomes a permanent member or Nameless because he is my fav character and i want to see him more on our future trailblazing journey
No wonder I couldn't see his welcome party along with mc! I wants him to be permanent nameless in future, tho I disagree w his way of action even intentions r good. If he was really evil in first place he'd never try to repent.
I was glad I got the chance to call him a bit of a control freak (not gonna judge him as I get his point and worry) but still managed to tell him he can come and has a good intent despite the bad methods he used. My fear eas that the dialogues would either be 100% favorable or 100% unfavorable to him, so being able to balance things was nice
I don't want him to leave penachony. I get he wants his redemption arc and all but I don't want you to leave behind robin or penachony like that. But since this guy is not gonna stay regardless, fine he'll stay
Dan hang said he wouldn't stay on the express for too long and he will departure but he didn't leave because of the new Bonds he made with the express I hope Sunday Decides in the end To stay with the express because he felt Things he never felt before and felt like family with the express like dan hang Both are sinners but redeemed in the end and stayed at express Dan hang situation was like Sunday anyways
I just hope that Sunday staying will be for the long run. I'm pretty sure that after all attachments we will get with him would make us sad when he departs the express.
I dont dislike Sunday (unlike his crazy ass fanbase), he just felt a bit bland to me. I allowed him to stay, cause want to see his development. But if they added him to the Express just for fangirls - that's just boring
They've always teased that there will be new astral express members that will be joining temporarily or permanently. In this case, Sunday is their first testing the waters guy to see how this rolls out. The only other character who almost got to the express is Serval but the rest of the characters seemed like they already are where they belong / going to a specific mission, whilst Sunday is just a lost bird with no direction so it would make sense that he would either join express or other factions
I think the fangirl bit here is a bit unfair. Firefly was given LOADS of screentime because of her fanboys, yet there wasn't much complaining. You've got to have a balance, and he is a very complex character with a lot of references to the church. You can dislike, but complaining about fangirls is unfair when talking about hoyo games
If anyone has watched MLP, he kinda reminds me of Starlight glimmer. After seeing how sunburst got his cutie mark and moved away from her, she wanted to create a society that was fully equal; no one is inferior to others and no one is more powerful. After Twilight explained to her how cutie marks embrace the unicity of every pony, and how without them it leads to world destruction, she finally understood her wrongs. This is why I can forgive Sunday for everything. Legitimately he extracted freedom from people while trying to achieve it, and once he realised that a paradise is achieved through growth, he finally let go of the order after seeing how it harmed the people of Penacony :)
Nooo i want him to join cant we have a game where the mc isnt always lsst to join? I would kive is fhe express expand it member and more Charachter join
Personally, I don't like Sunday at all. I don't agree with any part of his stupid philosophy. I think his control freak behavior is abhorrent, and don't want him on the express at all. But it's not really my choice to go around acting like an expert on the trailblaze. So I just said I'd be keeping an eye on him. He's not my friend and never will be unless he completely changes.
You don't agree with his philosophy you say, while simultaneously obsessing over fictional media, getting so invested in it that you're literally whining about it in a comment section. Maybe that's why you dislike Sunday, you felt called out, lmao. 🤣
What she said in JP if I'm hearing right is 「ゲームとかだと味方になった敵は弱体化したりするよね」 which more or less translated is "It's like in games where enemies turned allies tend to get nerfed". It's basically the same as with the official EN localization but she specifies comparing it to a game.
When Sunday called Welt as 'Mr. Yang' around the multiple Tingyun clones part I already accepted him as a part of the Astral Express. Plus his questions to Welt about trailblazing and all of that.. I think he does want to join and be a Nameless, but just reluctant because after all the Express Crew and Sunday were standing on opposing sides before he became a fugitive. PLUS HE HAS LINES WITH THE ASTRAL EXPRESS MEMBERS WHEN JOINING THE PARTY. Ig, rn it's unofficial, but yeah I wanna see him have an astral express ticket/stub pinned to his clothes.. plus I think he'll fit right in with the trio. Dan Heng wont be the only one holding their one braincell together. Edit: After reading the rest of the comments, Sunday has the Otto treatment? What? Are people not understanding the story? Sunday had good intentions with very wrong execution plus a bad role model. He wanted people to not suffer after watching/hearing people's suffering. I almost thought he wanted to carry that suffering instead. As far as I know about Otto, that guy wanted to destroy everything just to accomplish his goal, humanity be damned and all that. He didn't care about anything else but his desires. Plus, Welt.. is from HI3, he kept an eye on Sunday and he brought Sunday along with him to the express. Idk why people bother to play games with a storyline if you're just going to skip the dialogue and not even understand the characters and their story?
I didn't forgive Sunday then and I still don't forgive him now. Sunday joining the Astral Express is the equivalent of saying everything Otto Apocalypse did was right and justified. That bastard belongs in a cell where he won't see the light of day ever again.
@@rosavine23I hate Sunday because he forced everyone on the planet to be trapped in a dream-like state and tried to resurrect an Aeon that can cause severe repercussions towards Harmony itself, Sunday didn't even acknowledge that what he did was wrong even as he "died".
@@rosavine23 I hate Sunday because he forced an entire planet to be trapped in a dreamlike state and tried to resurrect an Aeon that have major repercussions towards Harmony itself. Even as Sunday "died", he didn't even acknowledge that his actions are wrong.
@ From that perspective yes what he did was wrong, however it’s been stated clearly that he didn’t have any bad intentions. What he did was to try and make everyone happy by living in a dream. His intentions were pure but his approach was bad, I can’t blame him since he was raised into it by the dream master. In this patch, he redeems himself of his past and took Mc’s advice to heart. During the battle against Sunday, he says that if their path will save more lives then his, “severe me with your own hands”. He is a good person who took the wrong approach. Also I wouldn’t trust Harmony if I were you.
@@rosavine23 Not that I trust Harmony (or any Aeon for that matter), it's just that Sunday resurrecting Ena can negatively affect other worlds that do place thier faith in Harmony. As for Sunday I can understand his intentions and reasons why he became the person he is, but that doesn't justify or excuse his actions. For now, I'm just going to wait and see how Sunday's redemption Arc is handled.
The Sunday fans in the comment section are something else... Because we hate him or can't understand him doesn't mean we are skippers or illiterate, is because we understood the wrongs of his actions and placed common sense and societal morals on the table to see a villain, instead of trying to relate to a deranged man because he's pretty.
Idk lol, people could like Maruki after playing p5 royal, and rightfully so. So Sunday can be liked as well despite his actions going a few steps too far than necessary, as there's no doubts about his intentions having always been good, him being highly sensitive to the troubles of people, can't be called a deranged psychopath anymore now at least now that he's trying to change after realizing by himself. Not many are this open to change their life long perspective, and he did it.
@@viy9182 Maruki even had similar goals to Sunday. There's a reason why the Persona 5 fanbase is divided on wherever Maruki's actions was right of him to do or not. Man cared about everyone more than himself, wanting nobody to suffer. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions", just because you have a strong heart filled with kindness for all, does not mean you won't get consequences for your acts of good will. I know this first hand even. I can do what I feel is right for me to do for others, but they have given me and sometimes others, trouble, quite abit.
Some people didn't feel like it when a new member joining the astral express. Ik it's kinda awkward to let someone we don't know yet to join our group friend, but sometimes we need to give them a chance to see if they adapt with us or not. So why not give sunday a chance here guys 😢 don't u know the feeling when u get rejected by a group friend? Yah not me but we have empathy right? ofc we feel bad, if not then re-thinking your life.
I kinda have the same views about wanting to keep things in order (maybe cause im a perfectionist). My intentions are well but they are easily misunderstood. I understand his POV but i welcomed him into the Express cause i hoped joining the Express team will make him loosen up a bit and see how even a curved road can also end at the same finishing line with the straight road's. This is also a reminder to myself as well 😅
I detest how he treated his sister back in penacony despite saying how precious she is for him, all for an ideology which had been implanted in his head by Gopher Wood. though I'm always open for a development. as for whether he will join the crew, Jade said strategic investment department would be the last refuge should he lost his way out there. so maybe he could become one of the stone heart if there's a seat vacancy. besides, the free spirit of trailblaze doesn't get along with order
This guy kidnapped an entire planet, tortured and poisoned Aventurine for no reason, freed Aventurine knowing that he was going to try a terroristic attack, lied for years about which Aeon was praying, tried to resurrect Order don't knowing which effect could cause to Harmony, and no reason was able to make him think that he was wrong and indeed he was stopped with force and not because he realized he was wrong. Now, there are some people that are trying to resurrect dead Aeons (Trailblazers, Argenti, Ruan Mei, etc...), but NO ONE of them ever lied on their intentions. This guy is just a villain and a liar. I would had sent him to Boothill or Rappa. Or in the Loufu prisons.
Kidnapped is not the word but he did put them in an eternal dream, thinking it was better than letting them suffer in real life (which obviously is wrong sunce not everyone is into escapism). As for Aventurine's, he himself anticipated that response since he planned it with Ratio. Sunday did the same thing with Robin and Welt and they're still alive, so they're not poisoned, just influenced by the power of the Order.
You got the right spirit but the wrong facts in fact none of the factions you listed as trying to revive an Aeon including Sunday were trying to do that (the other beauty faction the mirror holders who believe Idrillia is shattered into mirror shards are the ones trying to revive her). Sunday it has become clear in retrospect never wanted to revive the order but rather steal its power and be the one to personally pull the strings of order rather than let Ena do it. You can call that a retcon. I call it the fact that the vast, vast majority of characters in the penacony arc were scheming liars. Mass mind control, torture, attempted murder, and attempting insurrection are all things Sunday is guilty of though. At least he has the decency to admit that he totally did those things even if he isn’t particularly apologetic.
Bro did you get all your information from summary videos and never played the game? because from reading your message it seems like you only watched videos and never played the entire penacony quest.
mmm, in the new story we have two characters who decided to abandon their past life and go traveling, on the one hand, we have a very sweet and affectionate character, with whom we have a huge history and share many emotions, or other one, a fool whom we beat because he wanted to do 7 days of Sundays in a week, sure, very hard choice? Thanks, hoyo, that's the one I'd choose, of course. If the decision to accept him on the train is not mentioned at all in the future, and everyone forgets about that I dont agree, weeeel, that will be fun
Yes, the whole penacony story and Sunday's character only revolves solely around making every day a Sunday, of course. I get you're upset, but this is the biggest L take I've ever seen, dear lord
@@Au_Ra804 I dont care about what hes story was revolves, he was so boring, also penacony story is a yapfest with a lot of plotholes, and yes I read every stupid line about dove, 7-8 times even, soo real L take is thinking that Penacony was that good, so everyone shoud praise this story an Sunday
@@Au_Ra804 also that exactly what he was doing, bro. You coud use big words, metaphors, philosophical ideas, psychological analyses, etc. to hide a plothole story, but if the main idea of the plot is straight as a stick, which Sunday himself said that basicaly what he wants, then you shouldn’t defend the writers who seriously thought that telling about Dove 8 times would be a very smart plot device
@@F1ash1056 I never said Penacony was good. Imo it had good action cutscenes, and good antagonists, but the storytelling itself was awful. I can still like a character that's part of that story tho, for many reasons. Sunday himself said it as a metaphor, and I think it was Welt who also said it was a metaphor. The main plot was pretty easy to understand, but we're talking about Sunday here. Understanding the main plot of an arc, and understanding the motivation, goals, and circumstances of the characters in it, are two different things. You can understand these things about a character and STILL dislike him. No one says you have to like him. I also dislike a lot of characters in the game. But most of the time the reason for that is pretty petty, which I'm aware of and admit. I don't try to do mental gymnastics to justify my dislikes like many people do who dislike Sunday
@ I also don’t understand why Sunday can get on train, but Serval or Fugue can’t, Sunday even in this story sad that he now became even more boring, when he speak with himself, and why even give you choice to not agree with this decision, cause l am sure it will not be matter at all, and I don’t even think Fugue have a story mission, she was in story like 20 minutes, so stupid
This guy dont even deserve a redemption. Him dying after his boss fight should be the real ending for him, but i guess hoyo need to sell his character. Just like cocolia, she had the perfect ending for her and that little screen time in the end with bronya and her was super touching. All this sunday stuff its to convenient
@KallanEl he was influenced by wood and?? He still did what he did, hell he even betrayed robin with all this. Cocolia was also influenced, by a stelaron, and she did what she did and she paid the price. Him alive is to convinient to sell him, at least he should be rotting in a intergalactic jail or something. Yall slandered jade, the most neutral character, for nothing, but yall praise this chicken wings boy after his disgusting show
@@josetomasrivera5782 He was manipulated and groomed by Gopher Wood. His ideals are for the betterment of others, not himself. He wants to make a paradise for all, but Gopher Wood forced him to go about it the wrong way. He even sacrificed himself for Robin, as she was supposed to be the chordmaster, but Sunday took her place, and Gopher Wood knew he would do that. Sunday has ALWAYS cared for others, but was manipulated to go about it in the wrong way. "The paradise was never meant to look like this." - Sunday, in his Myriad Celestia. This is also a really amazing representation of abuse victims as well, as Sunday explicitly states he wanted to sever himself from his halo to feel pain. He wants to feel pain to feel alive, as Jiaoqiu does. He never had ill intent, and that was not his fault. He was coerced to go about it in the wrong way, and was taught that it was the ONLY way. However, now, he is learning it is not the way, and wants to better himself.
@@josetomasrivera5782 Who's ya'll?? A good chunk (if not, most) Sunday enjoyers are fine with morally gray characters and therefore don't have a hate boner for Jade like the rest of the fandom does. If every character was a goody-two-shoes like Robin and had no moral ambiguity, I wouldn't even bother playing this game (can you tell I'm a Wanderer main? lol). Furthermore, if we can have playable Blade, Firefly and Kafka who are CANONICALLY MASS MURDERERS, then why shouldn't Sunday be playable/redeemable? At least he never killed anyone to try to achieve his goals.
@@nailahsaquee6719 when i say yall i mean a lot, dont take it in a explicit way. and yes, i agree 100% with only good characters in games are boring. and you named the stelaron hunters, you know why there is no problem with them? because even after what they did, they dont give a F...., they belive in their beliefs and goals, they stay in their characters and i dont expect less from them, thats why they are cool. but in other hand, this chicken wings is like looking for pity or something, bro just look at this 0:28 its so lame. such a show he did just to act like a weak guy in the end. if they are going to give us grey characters like you said, let them stay grey, because all this pity stuff is cringe. but oh well, at least thats my personal opinion, if you agree or not its fine
In short, no matter what you choose, he will be temporarily travelling with the crew, not become a permanent member/Nameless.
As expected, we already have 5 main characters after all.
I'm happy that the Story or should I say Shaoji make it go to this way instead of making us choose his Fate(it's a illusion of choice anyway). For me, his character development is not enough to gain the trust from the Astral Express crew in anytime soon, so it's better if they keep going this way. I'm not quite buy this redemption arc but it's kinda okay for now and I noticed that those camera ankle in this quest seem pretty odd like a rough work also EN VA for some character is missing, what a shame.
You know it would be interesting to say the least if any future characters in HSR decides to join the nameless permanently then that would be awesome👍👏
yeah thats what ive been thinking after the 2.7 program and the story just confirm it, , it seems he will play important role in the next world or something and after that i wont be surprised if he leaves or even early than that. i hope those who likes him will take that in a good way and not be dissapointed or sad, he never gave the vibes of being permanent, he says it himself, he is not fit to be, but he want to find his new path in life and i support that no matter how neutral i am about him this whole time
@@fufu-jh agreed you gotta always respect a person decisions rather then people telling you what should you be
4 actually, Welt just join there cuz he can't find his way back home and he need to settle with the Sky People.
I love how you can tell Dan heng wants him aboard because he thinks the past shouldn't shackle Sunday
I think he just wants another intellectual to join so that they could talk about philosophical and theological crap.
@@jackjohnson8305Sleepover in the archive room!
i understand he wouldn't want to become part of the crew indefinitely, but i hope he sticks around long enough we can see some authentic character development. or long enough that they become actual friends. not just that he would hop off the train after a couple batches without engaging and bonding in the adventures
@@skit4950 He is joining us on Amphoreus and considering how long penacony was and his motivation I’m sure he would step out the train and who knows maybe we’d get paired with Sunday
@@deathmasterkrook7924He said he will go on trailblazing journey and help us, so I'm sure he will involve with us.
@@deathmasterkrook7924 That's kinda hinted at from the fact that in one of the shots of Amphoreus, you could see the outline of what appears to be a halo
Fr I want him to be apart of the story and some events not just a character hiding in the train until his part comes up just for him to leave after 😭
I could never reject my baby boy like that. It physically hurts me while I was watching this. The way he is looking at the camera, ahh I can never ever reject him.
Fr thoo
Haha same. Didn't have the heart to reject him.
I do worry Sunday might end up getting less development now because the devs have to account for two different scenarios.
Nah, second chance should be deserved and he needs to be in prison 🗿
frr
What I could tell from the dialogues, he was still unsure about becoming a nameless, so he instead say that he'll be there temporarily in their journey... i'm guessing it's going to take him a few journey to finally realize his own goal and learn the meaning of Trailblazing that'll eventually lead to him becoming a Nameless as well
I always think path meaning is different for each pathstrider. He may think he isn't suitable to be a Trailblazer now, but he doing this journey to find paradise means he in already on the path of Trailblazer. Just like Welt's path is more about the people.
Or maybe he realises a different goal, one that doesn't involve Trailblazing and leaves the Express instead
@@akarifuyuki9763 Yes, I hope he would become an official Nameless later in the story
@@armanzakwan1898 It's possible, I guess it will depend on where the story will lead... but for now, that was my theory
100%, after all the express ticket was leaked on his model multiple times :]
Ugh, I know what he did was wrong even if he had good intentions. I still gave him the benefit of the doubt though. Kinda sad he’s not officially joining the crew though. His dynamic could be pretty funny with the team.
Maybe he eventually will
@@amazinglaughs Well this patch is more filler than anything sadly Sunday’s true character development is yet to come considering what we see in the amphoreus trailer he will see a world struggling. Also from what sparkle said back in 2.0 I think, Belabog has an looming disaster on the horizon maybe that would come after 3.3 maybe.
@@deathmasterkrook7924 How is this filler? It's a main quest and a buildup for the next arc and for Sunday's future character arc with the AE
@@konodioda150 my bad my volcabulary is limited I apologize but yeah build up is what I meant
@@konodioda150That’s quite literally what a filler patch is tho. Not much happened besides teasing the next important update that’s coming. The “story” was very simple and straightforward, barely even containing anything other than the reveal the two “new” characters of the patch. So yeah, that’s a filler 😭😂
i hope everyone who listen and read those lines and conversations, understand it corretly. i know there is tons of lore skppers so dont u dare be dissapointed once he leave bc you didnt pay attention lol to be honest i choose some rejection options and some supportive but more on the neutral side bc thats how i feel about him, i dont hate him (but wasnt very fond of him joining at 1st) now knowing is temporary i understand him better and im ready to support his choices bc thats what he want to find and trailblazing is all about it !! enjoy his company while you can trailblazers no matter you like him or not.
I'd still be disappointed when that happens cz I want him to become permanent as I really feel for him as a person who really wanted good for every human so sensitively. So I'd still be sad when he leaves. It would have been a nice turn of arc for the Express crew from hoyo's part tho if the express permanently took in members, and it would have been nice if Sunday was the one to set that trend too.
@@viy9182I’m already sad rn reading this 😭
I wish he can stay forever
Why can't we replace other characters with him? He has great design and interesting personality & background
No I hate him
I didn't think, just clicked yes.
As if he's allowed to escape me after all that wait and saving.
If anime has taught me anything, it's that the villain who once tried to murk you can become your ride-or-die bestie through the power of Friendship. I've never been an apologist of his, but I do think Sunday's heart was clearly in the right place, he just went about it the wrong way. He genuinely seems to be trying to make amends and find a better way. He told us to sever his path with our hands, and we did, so now he looks like he's attempting to find the "right" path. The REAL sus ones here imo are the IPC...I have a feeling when Jade comes calling, that's when things will get real.
My boy Sunday dont deserve this shit. He just wanted to do something right for the universe. Praying that I get to hang out with my boy a ton in Amphoreus 🙏
I made sure he knew he was the newbie in the express
Agreed on him being part of the express in a hertbeat lol. I like him a lot
Nah I can’t reject him. He’s my favorite chicken wing boy
Chicken wing😂
He still deserves to be locked up imo
I know that watching this will give me psychological trauma so I guess I'll just read comments.
тоже самое, я даже не включил голосовой дубляж перевода на русский язык чтоб не ранить себя
Welcome to Honkai, where emotional pain is the expectation to feel
i hope Sunday pernamently stay in astral express...
Dear God, nooo
i would take Boothill anyday than him
me too i hope he can bond with pompom ❤❤
@@Kindi001I could take both
me too. There are some moments that makes me think stelle/caelus needs jesus sometimes
He's not exactly my favourite, but since i'm the sort of guy who gives people the benefit of doubt... I'd allow it
I have met a lot of villains,even their motives or goals spoke a lot of their hideous personality but Sunday is not that type in my book.He just wanted to shape his homeland a better place but what he lacked is embracing the uncertainties which he was doing in the main story...everyone deserved a second chance to redeem themselves but they'll have to earn it first
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" sums up Sunday's character so well...He is not really evil, he truly believe order was the answer for the paradise he seeks
You can't be worse than Otto Apocalypse
Isn’t that what all character arcs go though???
exactly, try to earn that 2nd chance first. its not like free jail card that you can get ny chance
Ngl i feel so bad watching him getting rejected 😭
I'm not a super duper big fan of him but still I didn't want to reject him. Actually i love that he's joining us and i can imagine March making fun of him in the future. I actually hope he will end up staying with us cuz i would want a new nameless with us
Second chance should be deserved, and now he doesn't
I was really sad when misha didn’t get the join the crew, at least we got Sunday now!
(Also I like how boy to girl ratio on the express is even now)
are u really rejecting the little man who once tried to fly with his ear feathers but realised he can't after he fell down?
From a story perspective I really like the idea of the trailblazer being extremely wary of Sunday and of his motives after he kinda… tried to kill them? So rejecting him and then the trailblazer exclusively calling him ‘Sunny’ despite him hating that nickname is something I’m glad I had the option to do lol.
As someone who really likes Sunday, I was really hoping he would become a permanent member of the Astral Express.
But after finishing this quest, I understand his hesitation about not joining the Nameless and choosing to stay as a temporary passenger instead.
And I understand why some ppl doesn't like or want him to join the Astral, after all, what he do to us in penacony are wrong
Even though Sunday is my favorite character, if one day he decides to leave the Express, I’d accept it. His journey on the Astral Express has just begun; there’s still so much we don’t know. That’s why I’m really excited to see the story unfold on the next planet.🎉
Also, after finishing the quest, you can found sunday in party car, at the top right corner, there you can ask him many things, and I remember he do say he will join us on the new planet :0
tbh I’m not a fan of him getting a redemption. It was hinted that he would join the Stellaron Hunters and tbh it made sense, after his dream of Order was shattered, choosing Finality as his last option. Could’ve been interesting, but oh well guess I’ll still won’t really care about him
So he didn’t end up becoming a Stellaron Hunter or a Nameless, he’s a temporary passenger for now because he’s figuring himself out. I like that, it leaves room for both
I was so confused cuz of naming stellar bronya until 10 secs in lol. Mad respect naming her that
Wow. Okay i actually legit like this choice, if Trailblazer welcome him our friend more likely to follow suit and welcome him but if Trailblazer refuse they treat Sunday more warily.
Even if the end result is the same, i still like seeing this.
I do hope he goes along with us to the new place. I want to see more of him. We saw so much of everyone else including robin. And sunday we saw very little. Would like to know him better 😁
I rejected him
March 7 just breaking the 4th wall 1:22
I really hope he stays with us and actually become a nameless i think it would be fitting for him especially what he have gone through before also his dynamic with the astral express would be really cute
I was so confused, like, why tf is Bronya giving her opinion? 😂😂
i still hope he will have some character development with the crew and eventually become a permanent member
Honestly this quest made me like Sunday a lot more than I did before, I didn't have the heart to be mean to him at all lol he gave me wet cat vibes so it was hard to pick any wary options 😅
Sunday stay. I want Sunday to stay permanent at the Express, be a Nameless, come on!!! 😭
So, in the end, it's the illusion of a choice. I love him to death tho, was really hoping there would be more of him redeeming himself in Amphoreus but alas.
There probably will. If you talk to him after the quest he says he'll disembark at Amphoreus with you and that he'll help out there.
I COULD NEVER REJECT HIM ,THIS HURT TO WATCH 😭
Well I don’t really like him, but I don’t have the heart to reject him either, so I chose the passive aggressive dialogues
I think I would have sobbed if I had rejected him like that
Even if for now he remains temporary i hope after the the new planet story, he would find his true goal and join us permanently
I mean, wouldn't be the first disgraced political figure aboard
I believe he will help us so much in the next world and we will want him to be one of us, that wxplains why he has a red part on his jacket, for his astral express ticket ofc, i hope he becomes a permanent member or Nameless because he is my fav character and i want to see him more on our future trailblazing journey
No wonder I couldn't see his welcome party along with mc! I wants him to be permanent nameless in future, tho I disagree w his way of action even intentions r good. If he was really evil in first place he'd never try to repent.
I was glad I got the chance to call him a bit of a control freak (not gonna judge him as I get his point and worry) but still managed to tell him he can come and has a good intent despite the bad methods he used. My fear eas that the dialogues would either be 100% favorable or 100% unfavorable to him, so being able to balance things was nice
I actually heard I theory about Ena the Order being related to Amphoreus, so if Sunday came with us there that would be REALLY INTERESTING to watch
I don't want him to leave penachony. I get he wants his redemption arc and all but I don't want you to leave behind robin or penachony like that.
But since this guy is not gonna stay regardless, fine he'll stay
Isn't Robin leaving too? Sunday said she's going on tour soon anyways so she's not staying there
@SeaAngel24676 yeah but sunday isn't coming back at all, at least that's what I'm getting here since he's joining with us.
though he’s a currently wanted fugitive, I bet he couldn’t really stay even if he wanted, and especially didn’t want to get robin involved either
@@akira8393 Yeah he can't cuz he's a criminal now, even if he wanted to, he can't, so he has to leave Penacony we can't really stop it
@SeaAngel24676 man... I hate that you're right
No. Simply no. I am not accepting this guy aboard our precious Express.
Dan hang said he wouldn't stay on the express for too long and he will departure but he didn't leave because of the new Bonds he made with the express
I hope Sunday Decides in the end To stay with the express because he felt Things he never felt before and felt like family with the express like dan hang
Both are sinners but redeemed in the end and stayed at express
Dan hang situation was like Sunday anyways
I just hope that Sunday staying will be for the long run. I'm pretty sure that after all attachments we will get with him would make us sad when he departs the express.
the illusion of choice
I think it's a pull the devs made for people to vote if they want sunday officalized or not
He's not my favorite guy but his fight slaps so I allow him to join
NAAAAH I DIDN'T JUST GET SPOILED AND NO WAY I'M DEFO ALLOWING MY KINNIE TO JOIN THE EXPRESS
Oh god, does this mean he's gonna leave us once we're out of the Asdana star system 😭 regardless of the options we choose...nooo my birb angel...
I dont dislike Sunday (unlike his crazy ass fanbase), he just felt a bit bland to me. I allowed him to stay, cause want to see his development. But if they added him to the Express just for fangirls - that's just boring
Ive read sonewhere Dawei loves him, I hope it's not just that and he gets actual character development
They've always teased that there will be new astral express members that will be joining temporarily or permanently. In this case, Sunday is their first testing the waters guy to see how this rolls out. The only other character who almost got to the express is Serval but the rest of the characters seemed like they already are where they belong / going to a specific mission, whilst Sunday is just a lost bird with no direction so it would make sense that he would either join express or other factions
Agreed, I find him bland and boring too, but I chose for him to stay, because I'm too trusting of others
I think the fangirl bit here is a bit unfair. Firefly was given LOADS of screentime because of her fanboys, yet there wasn't much complaining. You've got to have a balance, and he is a very complex character with a lot of references to the church. You can dislike, but complaining about fangirls is unfair when talking about hoyo games
@@rubytheskibidirizzler wdym Firefly has tons of haters, exactly because hoyo push her so much, that exactly the same here with Sunday
If anyone has watched MLP, he kinda reminds me of Starlight glimmer. After seeing how sunburst got his cutie mark and moved away from her, she wanted to create a society that was fully equal; no one is inferior to others and no one is more powerful. After Twilight explained to her how cutie marks embrace the unicity of every pony, and how without them it leads to world destruction, she finally understood her wrongs. This is why I can forgive Sunday for everything. Legitimately he extracted freedom from people while trying to achieve it, and once he realised that a paradise is achieved through growth, he finally let go of the order after seeing how it harmed the people of Penacony :)
I'm not a fan of Sunday. But seriously, to treat him like that is kinda... Rude. Isnt it?
@@diaryjames bro try to kill us, I think that was also rude
@@F1ash1056he also tried to trap a whole society of millions of people inside the dream
He is a war criminal
now try this on Acheron XD
So even if you choose him to join us,will he still be a nameless?
Or our choice just affects it to the fullest…..?
our choice wont affect the story, its just an illusion
Does that mean if I reject sunday, I'll forced to accept him?
@@Boldankhzaya yep bro
Sadly
It was painful for me to watch this😭
Sunday belongs to prison
I don't like him as a guy, but he is Robin's brother, so yeah. Hop on the train big bro.
Nah I love him way too much to reject him. I want him to become a permanent member.
What about the other choices?
Nooo i want him to join cant we have a game where the mc isnt always lsst to join? I would kive is fhe express expand it member and more Charachter join
Personally, I don't like Sunday at all. I don't agree with any part of his stupid philosophy. I think his control freak behavior is abhorrent, and don't want him on the express at all.
But it's not really my choice to go around acting like an expert on the trailblaze. So I just said I'd be keeping an eye on him. He's not my friend and never will be unless he completely changes.
You don't agree with his philosophy you say, while simultaneously obsessing over fictional media, getting so invested in it that you're literally whining about it in a comment section.
Maybe that's why you dislike Sunday, you felt called out, lmao. 🤣
same tbh
March said a suspicious thing. Did she know they're in game?
Or is it just a joke?
What she said in JP if I'm hearing right is 「ゲームとかだと味方になった敵は弱体化したりするよね」 which more or less translated is "It's like in games where enemies turned allies tend to get nerfed". It's basically the same as with the official EN localization but she specifies comparing it to a game.
When Sunday called Welt as 'Mr. Yang' around the multiple Tingyun clones part I already accepted him as a part of the Astral Express. Plus his questions to Welt about trailblazing and all of that.. I think he does want to join and be a Nameless, but just reluctant because after all the Express Crew and Sunday were standing on opposing sides before he became a fugitive. PLUS HE HAS LINES WITH THE ASTRAL EXPRESS MEMBERS WHEN JOINING THE PARTY. Ig, rn it's unofficial, but yeah I wanna see him have an astral express ticket/stub pinned to his clothes.. plus I think he'll fit right in with the trio. Dan Heng wont be the only one holding their one braincell together.
Edit: After reading the rest of the comments, Sunday has the Otto treatment? What? Are people not understanding the story? Sunday had good intentions with very wrong execution plus a bad role model. He wanted people to not suffer after watching/hearing people's suffering. I almost thought he wanted to carry that suffering instead. As far as I know about Otto, that guy wanted to destroy everything just to accomplish his goal, humanity be damned and all that. He didn't care about anything else but his desires. Plus, Welt.. is from HI3, he kept an eye on Sunday and he brought Sunday along with him to the express. Idk why people bother to play games with a storyline if you're just going to skip the dialogue and not even understand the characters and their story?
I didn't forgive Sunday then and I still don't forgive him now.
Sunday joining the Astral Express is the equivalent of saying everything Otto Apocalypse did was right and justified.
That bastard belongs in a cell where he won't see the light of day ever again.
Seriously what did he do that he deserves the same hate treatment that Otto has? I’m genuinely curious 🧐
@@rosavine23I hate Sunday because he forced everyone on the planet to be trapped in a dream-like state and tried to resurrect an Aeon that can cause severe repercussions towards Harmony itself, Sunday didn't even acknowledge that what he did was wrong even as he "died".
@@rosavine23 I hate Sunday because he forced an entire planet to be trapped in a dreamlike state and tried to resurrect an Aeon that have major repercussions towards Harmony itself. Even as Sunday "died", he didn't even acknowledge that his actions are wrong.
@ From that perspective yes what he did was wrong, however it’s been stated clearly that he didn’t have any bad intentions. What he did was to try and make everyone happy by living in a dream. His intentions were pure but his approach was bad, I can’t blame him since he was raised into it by the dream master. In this patch, he redeems himself of his past and took Mc’s advice to heart. During the battle against Sunday, he says that if their path will save more lives then his, “severe me with your own hands”. He is a good person who took the wrong approach. Also I wouldn’t trust Harmony if I were you.
@@rosavine23 Not that I trust Harmony (or any Aeon for that matter), it's just that Sunday resurrecting Ena can negatively affect other worlds that do place thier faith in Harmony.
As for Sunday I can understand his intentions and reasons why he became the person he is, but that doesn't justify or excuse his actions. For now, I'm just going to wait and see how Sunday's redemption Arc is handled.
In resume, seems nothing?
The Sunday fans in the comment section are something else... Because we hate him or can't understand him doesn't mean we are skippers or illiterate, is because we understood the wrongs of his actions and placed common sense and societal morals on the table to see a villain, instead of trying to relate to a deranged man because he's pretty.
no! b- but he's a good soul! so you should like him!
Idk lol, people could like Maruki after playing p5 royal, and rightfully so. So Sunday can be liked as well despite his actions going a few steps too far than necessary, as there's no doubts about his intentions having always been good, him being highly sensitive to the troubles of people, can't be called a deranged psychopath anymore now at least now that he's trying to change after realizing by himself. Not many are this open to change their life long perspective, and he did it.
@@viy9182 Maruki even had similar goals to Sunday. There's a reason why the Persona 5 fanbase is divided on wherever Maruki's actions was right of him to do or not. Man cared about everyone more than himself, wanting nobody to suffer. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions", just because you have a strong heart filled with kindness for all, does not mean you won't get consequences for your acts of good will. I know this first hand even. I can do what I feel is right for me to do for others, but they have given me and sometimes others, trouble, quite abit.
@@zigazav1difference is that maruki’s world pretty much can stay forever, while sunday’s won’t last as long
This is so painful..
i cant watch this my heart cant take it finding solace in comments!
Negar ele de ficar no expresso me doeu o coração 😢
Que bom que eu aceitei ele aqui no expresso 🥹🥹🥹🥹❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹
Why do I feel sad watching this?
I can't do this to my little baby boy
The way my heart clench when the option of him that can't join the express hurts.. 😭
Some people didn't feel like it when a new member joining the astral express. Ik it's kinda awkward to let someone we don't know yet to join our group friend, but sometimes we need to give them a chance to see if they adapt with us or not. So why not give sunday a chance here guys 😢
don't u know the feeling when u get rejected by a group friend? Yah not me but we have empathy right? ofc we feel bad, if not then re-thinking your life.
Sunday and i were never friends, he actively tried to trap us in a dream for all of eternity
Hes a backstabber who is only now showing remorse
I kinda have the same views about wanting to keep things in order (maybe cause im a perfectionist). My intentions are well but they are easily misunderstood.
I understand his POV but i welcomed him into the Express cause i hoped joining the Express team will make him loosen up a bit and see how even a curved road can also end at the same finishing line with the straight road's. This is also a reminder to myself as well 😅
I LOVE HIM EVEN THO I HATED HIM SM HYV ALWAYS MAKES ME LOVE CHARAS I HATE RAAAAAAAAAA
It feels like I'm being tortured while watching him being rejected😭😭 I will never ever be able to reject him since it makes me feel bad😭😭
I tried to hurt him but I just couldn’t for some reason-
You'd be heartless to reject Sunday
@@silverredwing20 nah Im fine
Sunday literally is a war criminal
Id reject him so fast and send him back to prison
I detest how he treated his sister back in penacony despite saying how precious she is for him, all for an ideology which had been implanted in his head by Gopher Wood. though I'm always open for a development.
as for whether he will join the crew, Jade said strategic investment department would be the last refuge should he lost his way out there. so maybe he could become one of the stone heart if there's a seat vacancy. besides, the free spirit of trailblaze doesn't get along with order
I don't like Sunday so i don't give him a warm welcome xD
I like Sunday because I like his sister
@aetherherrscherofnasigoren1417 Yup same, Robin is the only thing i like about Sunday, other than that Im not interested in him.
@Dissapointed_Aether My interest towards him? Other than his sister, I want to know if he'll be a funny person after he joins us😂
@@aetherherrscherofnasigoren1417 No way, bro is cold but not cruel 🥶
@@Dissapointed_Aether bayangin Sunday jadi koplak semenjak gabung ma Trailblazer dan March sampe Danang pasrah 😂
This guy kidnapped an entire planet, tortured and poisoned Aventurine for no reason, freed Aventurine knowing that he was going to try a terroristic attack, lied for years about which Aeon was praying, tried to resurrect Order don't knowing which effect could cause to Harmony, and no reason was able to make him think that he was wrong and indeed he was stopped with force and not because he realized he was wrong.
Now, there are some people that are trying to resurrect dead Aeons (Trailblazers, Argenti, Ruan Mei, etc...), but NO ONE of them ever lied on their intentions.
This guy is just a villain and a liar. I would had sent him to Boothill or Rappa. Or in the Loufu prisons.
Ok cool bro😂
Kidnapped is not the word but he did put them in an eternal dream, thinking it was better than letting them suffer in real life (which obviously is wrong sunce not everyone is into escapism). As for Aventurine's, he himself anticipated that response since he planned it with Ratio. Sunday did the same thing with Robin and Welt and they're still alive, so they're not poisoned, just influenced by the power of the Order.
You got the right spirit but the wrong facts in fact none of the factions you listed as trying to revive an Aeon including Sunday were trying to do that (the other beauty faction the mirror holders who believe Idrillia is shattered into mirror shards are the ones trying to revive her).
Sunday it has become clear in retrospect never wanted to revive the order but rather steal its power and be the one to personally pull the strings of order rather than let Ena do it. You can call that a retcon. I call it the fact that the vast, vast majority of characters in the penacony arc were scheming liars.
Mass mind control, torture, attempted murder, and attempting insurrection are all things Sunday is guilty of though. At least he has the decency to admit that he totally did those things even if he isn’t particularly apologetic.
Bro did you get all your information from summary videos and never played the game? because from reading your message it seems like you only watched videos and never played the entire penacony quest.
@Milliondollarcup I didn't play 2.7 yet
mmm, in the new story we have two characters who decided to abandon their past life and go traveling, on the one hand, we have a very sweet and affectionate character, with whom we have a huge history and share many emotions, or other one, a fool whom we beat because he wanted to do 7 days of Sundays in a week, sure, very hard choice? Thanks, hoyo, that's the one I'd choose, of course. If the decision to accept him on the train is not mentioned at all in the future, and everyone forgets about that I dont agree, weeeel, that will be fun
Yes, the whole penacony story and Sunday's character only revolves solely around making every day a Sunday, of course.
I get you're upset, but this is the biggest L take I've ever seen, dear lord
@@Au_Ra804 I dont care about what hes story was revolves, he was so boring, also penacony story is a yapfest with a lot of plotholes, and yes I read every stupid line about dove, 7-8 times even, soo real L take is thinking that Penacony was that good, so everyone shoud praise this story an Sunday
@@Au_Ra804 also that exactly what he was doing, bro. You coud use big words, metaphors, philosophical ideas, psychological analyses, etc. to hide a plothole story, but if the main idea of the plot is straight as a stick, which Sunday himself said that basicaly what he wants, then you shouldn’t defend the writers who seriously thought that telling about Dove 8 times would be a very smart plot device
@@F1ash1056 I never said Penacony was good. Imo it had good action cutscenes, and good antagonists, but the storytelling itself was awful. I can still like a character that's part of that story tho, for many reasons.
Sunday himself said it as a metaphor, and I think it was Welt who also said it was a metaphor. The main plot was pretty easy to understand, but we're talking about Sunday here. Understanding the main plot of an arc, and understanding the motivation, goals, and circumstances of the characters in it, are two different things.
You can understand these things about a character and STILL dislike him. No one says you have to like him.
I also dislike a lot of characters in the game. But most of the time the reason for that is pretty petty, which I'm aware of and admit. I don't try to do mental gymnastics to justify my dislikes like many people do who dislike Sunday
@ I also don’t understand why Sunday can get on train, but Serval or Fugue can’t, Sunday even in this story sad that he now became even more boring, when he speak with himself, and why even give you choice to not agree with this decision, cause l am sure it will not be matter at all, and I don’t even think Fugue have a story mission, she was in story like 20 minutes, so stupid
This guy dont even deserve a redemption. Him dying after his boss fight should be the real ending for him, but i guess hoyo need to sell his character. Just like cocolia, she had the perfect ending for her and that little screen time in the end with bronya and her was super touching. All this sunday stuff its to convenient
say you didn't understand the lore without saying you didn't understand the lore
@KallanEl he was influenced by wood and?? He still did what he did, hell he even betrayed robin with all this.
Cocolia was also influenced, by a stelaron, and she did what she did and she paid the price. Him alive is to convinient to sell him, at least he should be rotting in a intergalactic jail or something. Yall slandered jade, the most neutral character, for nothing, but yall praise this chicken wings boy after his disgusting show
@@josetomasrivera5782 He was manipulated and groomed by Gopher Wood. His ideals are for the betterment of others, not himself. He wants to make a paradise for all, but Gopher Wood forced him to go about it the wrong way. He even sacrificed himself for Robin, as she was supposed to be the chordmaster, but Sunday took her place, and Gopher Wood knew he would do that. Sunday has ALWAYS cared for others, but was manipulated to go about it in the wrong way. "The paradise was never meant to look like this." - Sunday, in his Myriad Celestia. This is also a really amazing representation of abuse victims as well, as Sunday explicitly states he wanted to sever himself from his halo to feel pain. He wants to feel pain to feel alive, as Jiaoqiu does. He never had ill intent, and that was not his fault. He was coerced to go about it in the wrong way, and was taught that it was the ONLY way. However, now, he is learning it is not the way, and wants to better himself.
@@josetomasrivera5782 Who's ya'll?? A good chunk (if not, most) Sunday enjoyers are fine with morally gray characters and therefore don't have a hate boner for Jade like the rest of the fandom does. If every character was a goody-two-shoes like Robin and had no moral ambiguity, I wouldn't even bother playing this game (can you tell I'm a Wanderer main? lol).
Furthermore, if we can have playable Blade, Firefly and Kafka who are CANONICALLY MASS MURDERERS, then why shouldn't Sunday be playable/redeemable? At least he never killed anyone to try to achieve his goals.
@@nailahsaquee6719 when i say yall i mean a lot, dont take it in a explicit way.
and yes, i agree 100% with only good characters in games are boring. and you named the stelaron hunters, you know why there is no problem with them? because even after what they did, they dont give a F...., they belive in their beliefs and goals, they stay in their characters and i dont expect less from them, thats why they are cool. but in other hand, this chicken wings is like looking for pity or something, bro just look at this 0:28 its so lame. such a show he did just to act like a weak guy in the end. if they are going to give us grey characters like you said, let them stay grey, because all this pity stuff is cringe. but oh well, at least thats my personal opinion, if you agree or not its fine
Sunday stans = Scara stans = T0Х|С
Sunday is not comparable to Scara, he is rather comparable to Ei, and the people who hate on Sunday are therefore comparable to Scara stans.
Liked Sunday as a villian, now he’s justa booooriingg marysue 🥱
nah, everyone's toxic.. dont remove yourself from the idea that you are
@@teal2111 k… not simping Sunday = T0X|С 🙄