I bought a used pair of 700s off ebay for a good price, about $300. I love 'em, I don't think they sound weird at all. I love the way they soundstage and the detail is fantastic.
I have HD700's too with an Audiolab Mdac. Have had this setup for 2 years. Very pleased. I wear mine for many hours at a time at the desk, and they are way more comfortable than the 6-series from Sennheiser. At least for a guy with a big head.
Just got my Sennheiser HD650s and they are incredible. They are my first audiophile headphones so I probably can't tell how good they really are but I still think they and amazing! Also, this is a very good channel. Glad I found it early.
Thanks! Yes the HD650 is one of those headphones that gets better and better with every amp you use. I know people who use HD650s with $10k amps and they still find details they can't hear with other headphones.
As someone who recently joined the Massdrop for the HD-6XX, I'm feeling good after stumbling across your channel. USD$200 is a lot of money to me, especially with no opportunity to hear them first. This review has been very reassuring!!! Loving the way you describe the listening experience and your video style. Good luck growing the channel, you deserve a whole lot more than 4K subscribers.
If you live in America, yeah, it's a long wait for a small saving. For my country, they are exactly half the cheapest street-price, I don't mind waiting for that :^)
You say everyone will tell you the hd650 are the benchmark, but honestly, this is the first time I hear that...what I hear everybody say is the hd600 are the benchmark, with the 650 being a "wow" sounding version of the 600, at the expense of neutrality, speed, and realism.
Danilo Bonina only at the expense of neutrality not the speed or naturelness, I own both, and I also think it all depends on what driver is in the 600/650 in question, the newest silver driver 600&650 sound identical except a little more mid bass on the 650. Mine are both the newer silver versions and I think the 650 actually has better detail and speed, could just be my ears or my exact headphones because there is variances between units.
Ended up getting onto the HD650 thanks to your video, got them today and driving them of the SB ZXR they sound amazing for compressed audio and almost spine tingling in games like the witcher, a clear step up from HD555. Now the quest for perfection as I contemplate ditching the sound card and going for a DAC\AMP setup at some stage... Goodbye wallet it was nice knowing you.
like your style man, serious and always interesting, to the point, thanks to you i got the 650s, sold them, now im thinking on the he400i, becaouse of the description of the soundstage you did (y)
really spot on video. nothing more, nothing less. liked and subscribed. PS: thank you for not slaughtering the hd700, i really love them, and feel like they get hate just because they aren't the hd6xx.
Wow ...... i am debating on wich one to buy between the HD6XX and the HE400 so i looked at this video...... But honestly very good explanation and you just got yourself another subscriber.
Just got HE 4XX, the cable problem is solved and seems like the build quality is alot better. Glad i picked them over 58X Jubilee. I currently use 598 but i feel like they're too comfortable to me, some more clamp would be great, i think i will love the 4XX.
Superb comparison and characterizations! Had the HE-400 for a while and gave to my nephew, you're spot on the description of them, they're amazing with that wow factor - and strangely for me, comfortable. However, I'm with you on the Sennheiser's, though in my case the HD 600; to me the, they are just *the* headphones and I go back to as my reference point. Comfort, sound, everything about them, I love. And then finally, the HD 700 - they're next on my list to get. I've read enough about them and yes, they're polarizing, but I strongly suspect I will like their sound - but not to replace my HD 600, but rather to complement them, for certain styles of music.
Massdrop x Hifiman's he4xx is very comfortable. Looks same as the he400. I have the he4xx and hd6xx and they are different and I don't prefer one over the other, it just depends on my mood which I wanna listen to. Comfort wise the 6xx wins hands down. Great video, do more like this.
Have you ever messed with a Schiit Jotunheim? Picked up a pair of HD-650s, and my sound card just isn't cutting it. It's more or less identical-sounding to a Magni 2 Uber in terms of the sound output. I was considering a Dark Voice 336SE as I know tubes and HD650s are a tight match, but I've read the tubes aren't happy when they get 6 to 8 hours of use a day.
Hi there! Which headphones would be good for blues(rock), classic rock, folk, acoustic, and some jazzy tunes? HD600, HD650, HD580, HE400se… or something entirely different altogether?
Anyone over 40 yrs old will appreciate opennes and more detailed and extended highs , newer HE400i are fantastic and super comfortable and can be bought at 220usd - what a bargain!
*Thanks for this review.* There is a lot to comment and to mention while listening to this review. For now let me let people know that it depends (also) on source file, how it was recorded!, which format its saved, and of course AMP plays a big role. If I may add, *once I tried the HD800S I couldn't enjoy the HD650. I tried the Focal Clear for 2 weeks, something about the Focal Clear that is much more vibrant above all mentioned above, but I chose the HD800S since I want the separation of sound and clean, but some recordings will sound almost dead on the HD800S while the Focal Clear makes it all alive and good.* I am still looking to have the Focal Utopia!.. BTW, Sennheiser HD820 is not worth its prize for sound wise, unless isolation with good headphones is a must, and it is not real (full) isolation while its sound is not having the specialty of the HD800/S.
Yo thanks for helping me decide. Both 650 and 700 are 50% off on Massdrop now. I’ve wanted a pair of 650s for so long, but never tried 700. I use a DACmini PX btw.
Marian 1st I agree I worship my 325e. I feel like it's somehow a special headphone, maybe in the way people say the hd650 is so special. I've heard the 325e on one pice of gear and wasn't impressed then again another gear and was amazed. I'd love to see this exact kind of comparison done by DMS3, such a pro, except with 325e, hd650 and el -8, or really any line up from DMS3 that includes Grado 325e.
Thanks for your videos! I play guitar on Line 6 Helix LT Guitar Multi-effects Processor with headphones. The output has 12 Ohm impedance and as manual says: "provides plenty of gain for high impedance headphones". Do you think it will run HD 650 with 300 Ohm properly?
hey man, I really liked this comparison. if you don't mind, I have a question. I have a pair of ATH-M50X with BrainWaivez angled pleather pads, ATH-AD900X with HiFiMan valeur pads, and HD 598 SE; but I also own a pair of Genius speakers that I have adjusted to neutral base and increased highs. I watch a lot of anime and listen to different types of music. I love how the ATH-AD900X really bring out the highs and the female vocals. would you recommend I get the HD 650 if I just wanted an all around good pair of headphones for general music listening and movie watching? I have enough to buy the ATH-AD2000X, but Zeos claims that those favor highs, so I started looking into the HD 650. thanks for any help in advanced.
manuelthegreatman HD-650 is hands down the most well rounded set of headphones that money can buy and absolutely phenomenal for vocal clarity. Slightly veiled but still crisp. I've never met anyone who doesn't highly recommend the HD-650
So do you like the 650's?...So do I! Thanks for recognizing that music and its delivery is subjective , so many gear trolls these days. Great video, enjoyed your opinions.
I'm digging your reviews. I really wanted the HD 650s but I don't have a good setup only a tablet and portable amp. Went with the HE 400is which I absolutely love. I didn't realize how subjective headphones are until I got the he 400is. A lot depends on what genre of music you like. Once I get a laptop amp/DAC I'm going with the HD 650s
Been through two HD650s. One of my favourites. They are some of the best headphones for the price - a great reference. I have a LCD2 otherwise I would have kept the 650s. Probably will get another sometime again. :) Recently acquired the HD700s and technically, they are on another level than the 650. They are so much more transparent, and you feel like you are listening in a large room space. I can see where there may be problematic for some people, depending on music preferences. One thing about the 650, is that they aren't quite accurate on their top end. But because of their pleasing nature, you may not notice. The HD700 It takes a bit to get used to. I agree that it has that strange something up top, but really its that extra bit that bring the best recordings to life. I'm still new to the HD700, and I will admit they fatiguing. It is a trade off. You would get fatigued listening to the real instruments live as well. Most consumer cans are attenuated to be inoffensive but also less accurate. We get used to that sound, then you hear the HD700 and it can seriously sound wrong. HD700 Brilliant for the finest dynamic recordings of classical, jazz, and even electronic. Also, the HD650s are great for binaural recordings, very natural and relaxed. But the Hd700 becomes simply holographic. Great presentation btw. Subbed
I love the HD700. I think they get a lot more hate than the should. Their sound signature can be a bit harsh compared to normal cans I agree but it comes with the territory. Thanks for the sub : )
@@wrencheverydayohiyokosaima7257 funny how times change. Since then, I had a number of sets including the HD800 and Utopia. Finally, I've paired everything down to a several IEMs - Moondrop SSR, Blessing 2 and a Fiio FH5S.
@@ohnonate while some may prefer the HD600 as they are a bit more neutral, you can easily adjust to the warmer tone of the 650. It has a very special, sweet yet natural high-end. As long as you are okay with a bit more mid bass and lower midrange bloom/warm they are fantastic for classical music. The HD700 are more an acquired taste and overall are less accurate. They will sound much more spacious but a bit more artificial. I recommend sticking with the either HD650/6XX,600, HD660S (my current set) or HD560S. Also try experimenting with headphone spatial dsp to get a more speaker like representation of the soundstage. I’ve owned HD800 and Focal Utopia both excellent for classical but after many years I’ve paired back to the HD660S and iems. I’m more than happy now to listen to lower cost iems and headphones. So if you want great technical quality for a low price iems are where it’s at. Low cost planar iems are fantastic for classical especially sets like the Tin Hifi P1 Max and there are some great hybrids to look out for such as Kiwi Ears Quintet, balance armature sets such as Truthear Hexa to the very cheap but effective single dynamic drivers like the 7Hz Zero.
So I know you damaged your Monolith M1060, But I have been interested in getting a pair over the HiFiMan. In your opinion would you even compare them? or are they not even in the same league and the HiFi crush the monolith?
Yoyo, nice review, thank you. Hey a quick question, I am from a small country where I will not be able to find a pair of HD700 and try them. I still remember how disappointed I was when I tried the Beats in-ear headphones. Do you think, is there anyway that the HD700 might disappoint me like how the Beats did? Like you said the HD700 is not for everyone. I have been exposed to some nice amps and speakers because of my dad but I am very new to headphones, I have got HD202 and Momentum in-ear at moment. I have got a tube amp and seriously considering getting a HD700.
Paul Ji that's more or less what I've started covering in the weekly video podcast :) though I may start adding additional educational videos as well. Thanks for the sub! I'm glad to have you here!
Hey! Just discovered this video. Great job. Question. I have hd6xx. Running through a dragonfly red. You mention how you can keep getting more out of these depending on your set up. Could you recommend a dac/amp that would be a good step up from the very capable dragonfly that would reveal more of the hd650 ? Running through my surface book 2 at present. Thanks so much!
I actually tried the same thing with pretty decent results. However I use to many different headphones daily that I found myself often forgetting to disable or re-enable the EQ.
I am completely knew to this, and I am just wondering if I have a DAC/AMP( Modi2U/Magni2U ) and listen to music Pandora/Spotify on my headphones ( HD650 ) will it sound better than other desktop gaming headphones ( TurtleBeach A40TR MixAmp, Logitech G930 ), or will I have to listen to high fidelity recordings to notice a difference?
Hey Man. Such a great video. Any experience A/Bing the 650 vs 600? Really wanna spring for the 650s, but there are so many folks who prefer the 600s for neutrality. Would really appreciate your thoughts. Thanks!
I just joined the drop for the 6xx. However, I have no idea what amp/dac to use with them. Seems like there are a ton of options, but I want to get the most out of them for under $500. The R2R11 sounds amazing, but there is no distributor in the US. Help pls?
What about using the 650s without an amp? Will they still sound good? Would they sound better than the average "consumer headphones" (bose in-ear, Senheiser momentum in-ear, etc)? is what I'm asking.
Nice video man ! I wish you continued success on the channel , loved these last 2 !! Ive only been able to rock my hd700 with a old fiio e5 I had paired up with my se535 but I think your spot on when you say that with certain genre's there really nice . I've read some people say the bass was lacking but I think it's pretty good , it not boomy but I think there's plenty of impact depending on what your listening to . With that said I'm kinda torn on whether to keep them or return them and try out the 650 and put the savings toward a decent amp/dac . So far I've looked at the fulla2 , magni uber/modi uber-multibit , little dot mk2 and the Oppo ha2se . The Oppo is on the list because most nights after work I'm not gonna want to get out my recliner to hit a switch or turn a knob lol . Hopefully mass drop announces before my thirty days are up that the 6xx is going back up and I can have both :) which amp or combo do you think matches up best with the hd700 ?
With the hd700 I would recommend something warm. I personally got the Asgard 2 to match my HD-700. With that in mind though amps like the asgard 2 don't work well with headphones like the HD650 if you ever plan on switching. Also I would say modi/magni isnt really worth it for the price. For slightly more you could have an NFB-11 from audio-GD. Now with all that said my top recommended combo is the HD-650 and NFB-11. Its not cheap but its a match made in heaven.
Great vid makes my purchase of the hd6xx more confidant going for the Schiit fulla 2 next week you said the he400 are harder to drive and sounds not clear past half on the fulla is it the same with the 650's on the fulla?
Woo! The point where the fulla 2 distorts is almost uncomfortably loud on the HD650s so I wouldn't worry too much about that. With the HE-400 since they are so hard to drive its easier to hear the distortion threshold (which is still very minor distortion).
Nice to see your channel (and being nice to the widely hated hd700). Keep up the good work. What speaker would you say to be a step up from the hd650? And what cables are you using on the 650! All planars have large changes in sound with enclosures.. It's the nature of their driver structure! There's an industry that takes 200$ t50rp, redesigns their enclosures, makes some equalization to the same drivers and sell them for 1000$. And the thing is people find the sound worth the money. Planars are something you can definitely go crazy experimenting with!. You cannot go wrong with the hd650s - My favorite quote of the video! The more I see these videos the more I want to upgrade my hd598 (which already sound quite amazing to me)
Thanks a lot! I actually use a cheap amazon cable with my HD650s since I use them in the studio so much. I wouldn't want a nice cable to get damaged. That being said instead of getting a more expensive pair of headphones than the HD650 I would rather someone get a nicer amp. The thing about HD650s is that they scale in quality with nicer and nicer amps. I've even seen people with $10k in their amp and source using HD650s as their only headphones. Oh! and on the subject of planars since you mentioned them, the Monolith M560 video is uploading as we speak!
I love my hd700 but I need to get an amp and dac for them. I was thinking kids labs element 2 but cant really afford that. What would you recommend for the hd 700s. If I need to buy separate amp dac and buy 1 at a time so I can get better stuff that's ok to. Also I'm fine with used gear as well. I just cant spend more than $300 for either the amp or dac individually and I'd rather be around $400 for the total if I can.
I don't know why you're saying the he-400s are uncomfortable. I've had mine for 2 years now and I think they are extremely comfortable, and I've owned the Senn 700s before.
I have the HD650's and I love them. How much more detail can you really hear with the HD700's? Would you say its worth it to have them both? ( My set up is Aune X1s DAC and Aune X7s Class A Amp).
The difference is pretty substantial. The thing is that "detail" doesn't always equal quality. In stock form, HD650's have that really natural sound quality that makes an acoustic guitar sound just like an acoustic guitar. Stock HD700's have WAY more soundstage, layers and "detail" but sometimes that detail can make things sound exaggerated and less real and natural. I had them and found them incredibly exciting but also fatiguing and much less generally likable than 650's. I feel like if you put 650's on someone's head they are going to comment on how good the music sounds and if you put 700's on someone's head they're going to comment on how good the headphones sound. There are now several mods available which offer options for improving the peaky-ness and un-naturalness of the 700's. I just got another pair (because someone offered them to me for $225) and even the simplest mod has made them much better. For me, it's like a exciting flavor of ice cream that you keep in the freezer because sometimes you just want pretzel-peanutbutter-mocha but you probably won't eat it everyday.
Axel Grell from sennheiser wanted them to follow pure harman Kardon response(HD6 series).... It is not Sennheiser House sound.. the house sound is HD414 and HD800s
I was looking at the HD700's to replace my HD555's, your video may have convinced me that maybe I need to just go with the safe route (and cheaper) and go with the HD650's instead. They will be used primarily for gaming, would the onboard amp for the Creative ZXR be enough, it's 600ohm apparently. Great honest video, ill be subscribing for sure.
Yeah it's pretty much the final thing to determine if the Amp is up to snuff, otherwise I'll need to add a DAC which adds extra cost. You mentioned gaming in your video, what do you hook yours up to for gaming DAC\Amp wise?
Had a quick look through your channel and couldn't see a video in regard to your sound setup for gaming. I'd love to see a video like that! Headphones, DAC, Amp etc. Their is a lot of crap out there, would like to see the good stuff!
Do you really think the HD650 is more comfortable than the Beyerdynamic line such as the DT880 or T90? I made my HE400 a little more comfortable by adding a thick piece of weatherstripping to the bottom of the headband and using J-money natural leather ear pads (similar to yours). But I agree, I'm looking for something new due to the comfort. I also have an after market cable but still, the cable's placement is another point of discomfort.
I have to agree my old HD 600 (and the HD598s) where the most comfortable headphones I've owned. My Beyerdynamics' are also very comfortable, but the Sennheiser's are by favorites in terms of comfort. I don't find the HD 400 uncomfortable but definitely not the most comfortable. I enjoyed their fun v-shaped sound. I miss them more then my old HD 600.
Have you gotten the 400i yet? I'd be very interested in your impressions. I was torn between this and the 650, but the 400i was available for $250 on Amazon again this week and I couldn't resist (plus since I am using Fidelio X2s ATM, I was curious to try a planar). They are supposedly coming back into stock on Monday and scheduled to be delivered on Wednesday. Several third party dealers have them at this ridiculously low price (with Prime and fulfilled by Amazon; the Hifiman site lists them as authorized dealers) I am just hoping they are legitimately new as stated and not repackaged returns or very old stock with the F connectors.
I owned Sennheiser hd700 2 times and I'm about to buy then again. The treble spike is the reason I sell them but I will try and mod them when I rebuy them again for the 3rd time. What I really like about the hd700 is the instrument separation from the wide soundstage. I haven't tried any other high end headphones before tho. Might get a use massdrop hd6xx (hd650) idk.
I have a choice to get new HE400i ($190) or used HD650 ($270). If this is purely about audio quality and cost performance, which one do you guys think I should go for?
HD650 due to comfort and their warm, neutral, lush sound signature. Then get the he400i down the road. He400i has a tighter faster planer magnetic sound. It really depends on your preference. Go to some stores and try them out first if you can. By now I know that I prefer a more warm sound signature. My ears are a bit sensitive to higher frequencies.
Would you recommend picking the HD700, which is currently at 500 USD for classical, acustic, jazz and female vocals, as well as for gaming, AND the HD650s for everything else as my main headphone, or should I just pick the 650 and stop wasting money on headphones? I can sort of afford picking both, but not sure if it is actually worth it. I currently own a 598 which I really like, but I want to upgrade.
DMS3 TV cool, I'll get the 650 for sure and decide later on if the 700 is something I need. It just went massively in price in my country anyways, so if anything, I'll have to wait. Thanks :)
The veil of the 650 killed them for me. I got the 600 the day after. I had the HE-400, but the highs have something really weird in there that I eventually could not stand anymore (fatigued me to the point of mild tinnitus). The HD-700 Were great... as long as the wrong treble did not show up. So I settled for a HD600+LCD2+Beyer 660. LCD2 for most music. HD600 for gaming (short gaming id use lcd2 still but they are too heavy for long periods) and DT 660 for classic. The DT 660 smokes out the LCD2 and the HD600 in air instruments. I realy wish the LCD 2 was lighter. Id love to play some of my games with it... its just not possible for longer than 40 minutes without breaks.
What would be the best gaming headphone under $300? I have Sennheiser HD 598's and I dont like really how they sound and don't feel like they give the soundstage others are impressed by? (Sorry if this is stupid, I know nothing about audio)
Detriment hd598 are bass light so they can be boring for some people. First try equalizing some bass in to it. And see if you are Amping them properly (hd598 is quite easy to drive but you can still drive them wrong). Headphone options, follow what DMS3 TV told in the video. I would add that in addition to hd650 and he400i, Philips Fidelio are also known to sound really good and have a fun sound similar to he400
Seems like Sennheiser HD650 is getting a successor soon! Both moon-audio and sonic electronix are stating the HD650 are discontinued (source : reddit)!! Here's me hoping they don't screw up anything.
DMS3 TV sennheiser seem to be quite confident on them. Both hd650 and 600 are getting discontinued. The hd599 as people said, is mostly just a cosmetic change to hd598 so this one could go that way also. Edit : HD6x0 are staying. Sennheiser support agent replied. Lol reddit was going quite ruckus for a while, myself too!
Oh man, you almost gave me a heart attack! I have surpassed both my HD600 and HD6XX (read: HD650), but I'd still be heartbroken to see them replaced. For the record......my HD600 step-up is the Stax 2170. My HD6XX step-up is the TH-X00 Purplehearts :)
Is it me, or is them discontinuing the headphones a great thing? It increases it's market value because they stood by the test of time so resale value will go up.
You have a way of talking about headphones that is really engaging. It is some kind of stress therapy for me :)
Best review/compare of HD650 and HE400. I'm gonna get a HD650 now! :)
Woo! Welcome to the club!
Thank you! I'm listening with them now! 😂🙌🏻
You won't be disappoint
I own a pair of 650s and they are awesome ..getting a pair of 700s soon
Just spoiled the whole video for me 😂😂
I bought a used pair of 700s off ebay for a good price, about $300. I love 'em, I don't think they sound weird at all. I love the way they soundstage and the detail is fantastic.
I have HD700's too with an Audiolab Mdac. Have had this setup for 2 years. Very pleased. I wear mine for many hours at a time at the desk, and they are way more comfortable than the 6-series from Sennheiser. At least for a guy with a big head.
Immortal imaging is great with the big soundstage. For some reason, it’s easier for me to pinpoint footsteps with the 700’s rather then 800’s
I love mine too. I found them fatiguing for long listening but I have the Modhouse mod kit installed right now and it takes the edge off nicely.
@Immortal im using a HD700 for gaming and loving it, it by faar beats my K712 pro in both imaging and comfort is another level
Just got my Sennheiser HD650s and they are incredible. They are my first audiophile headphones so I probably can't tell how good they really are but I still think they and amazing! Also, this is a very good channel. Glad I found it early.
Thanks! Yes the HD650 is one of those headphones that gets better and better with every amp you use. I know people who use HD650s with $10k amps and they still find details they can't hear with other headphones.
Amazing Video..The comparison between these 3 headphones couldn't be put out better. Liked and subscribed. Waiting for more videos from you :)
Thanks! New review uploading today : )
Great review. I've been looking at alot of reviews on the 650s and 700s, but your review came across to me fair and genuine. Thank you
Great review. Love the descriptions, extremely helpful.
Is the audio popping and crackling noises supposed to be there on the left channel on this video?
Avedgy it's not supposed to but I've since isolated and fixed this starting with my M560 review I did.
I hear it too on left channel
He is testing the quality of your headphones:)
i kinda like it
The left channel crackling sounds great on my HD6xx!
As someone who recently joined the Massdrop for the HD-6XX, I'm feeling good after stumbling across your channel. USD$200 is a lot of money to me, especially with no opportunity to hear them first. This review has been very reassuring!!!
Loving the way you describe the listening experience and your video style. Good luck growing the channel, you deserve a whole lot more than 4K subscribers.
Thanks! Also good choice on the 6XX. Its an excellent headphone. Certainly one of my all time favorites.
DMS3 TV too bad he's gonna have to wait half a year for them
If you live in America, yeah, it's a long wait for a small saving. For my country, they are exactly half the cheapest street-price, I don't mind waiting for that :^)
That was a great video man, great comparison
Thanks! I've been wanting to do it for a while!
that pic of Abel tho. When I got my 650s the first thing I did was listen to Trilogy at high volumes with bass boost. Best. Shit. Ever.
Thanks for the info I was nearly going to buy the 700s until I saw this great video now I am going for 650
You say everyone will tell you the hd650 are the benchmark, but honestly, this is the first time I hear that...what I hear everybody say is the hd600 are the benchmark, with the 650 being a "wow" sounding version of the 600, at the expense of neutrality, speed, and realism.
Danilo Bonina only at the expense of neutrality not the speed or naturelness, I own both, and I also think it all depends on what driver is in the 600/650 in question, the newest silver driver 600&650 sound identical except a little more mid bass on the 650. Mine are both the newer silver versions and I think the 650 actually has better detail and speed, could just be my ears or my exact headphones because there is variances between units.
Gotta say man that was an excellent presentation and comparison.
I fully agree that hd650 won't impress noobs very much. The listener needs be somewhat experienced to really understand what they're about...
love the lofi intro
left audio has a crackling sound. nice to see this channel. keep up the nice work
Hopefully that's fixed in my new video uploading today : ) I used a better power conditioner.
i just got the hifiman 400i for 170, fantastic cans.
I love switching between those and the HD650, both sound brilliant and the comfort is off tap
ciao il conforto? grazie
Thank you for your video. you know your video has a greater effect than you think.
I appreciate it man.
Ended up getting onto the HD650 thanks to your video, got them today and driving them of the SB ZXR they sound amazing for compressed audio and almost spine tingling in games like the witcher, a clear step up from HD555. Now the quest for perfection as I contemplate ditching the sound card and going for a DAC\AMP setup at some stage... Goodbye wallet it was nice knowing you.
4 Years later, how do the HD700's fair in gaming? I got them in a garage sale for $20😂
I still think they’re the best gaming headphone if you can’t afford hd800s
NO WAY THAT'S AN AMAZING PRICE!!!
like your style man, serious and always interesting, to the point, thanks to you i got the 650s, sold them, now im thinking on the he400i, becaouse of the description of the soundstage you did (y)
really spot on video. nothing more, nothing less. liked and subscribed.
PS: thank you for not slaughtering the hd700, i really love them, and feel like they get hate just because they aren't the hd6xx.
Thanks for the sub! : D I really think the HD700 gets WAY to much hate. After listening to them a lot I understand why but I still really like them.
Wow ...... i am debating on wich one to buy between the HD6XX and the HE400 so i looked at this video...... But honestly very good explanation and you just got yourself another subscriber.
Just got HE 4XX, the cable problem is solved and seems like the build quality is alot better. Glad i picked them over 58X Jubilee. I currently use 598 but i feel like they're too comfortable to me, some more clamp would be great, i think i will love the 4XX.
Hifiman is the girlfriend, but Sennheiser is the wife.
Wifes don't fuck, girlfriends do
Roflmao
@@JurgenCutters Exactly.
@Jono Holmes I see.. 🤔
Great for short sessions but you cant live with it
I wanted to hug my HD650s after watching this video. I've never been as glad with any other purchase I've made.
Um what about before you saw this video? No love?
Superb comparison and characterizations! Had the HE-400 for a while and gave to my nephew, you're spot on the description of them, they're amazing with that wow factor - and strangely for me, comfortable.
However, I'm with you on the Sennheiser's, though in my case the HD 600; to me the, they are just *the* headphones and I go back to as my reference point. Comfort, sound, everything about them, I love.
And then finally, the HD 700 - they're next on my list to get. I've read enough about them and yes, they're polarizing, but I strongly suspect I will like their sound - but not to replace my HD 600, but rather to complement them, for certain styles of music.
Thanks : ) I need to do a video comparing the differences between the HD600 and HD650 also.
i didn't want to but u forced me to subscribe...good work bro keep it up !!
Massdrop x Hifiman's he4xx is very comfortable. Looks same as the he400. I have the he4xx and hd6xx and they are different and I don't prefer one over the other, it just depends on my mood which I wanna listen to. Comfort wise the 6xx wins hands down. Great video, do more like this.
This is funny. i feel it the same. with the HD 650. The highes comes singing into your ears on an easy way.Nice video
Good review! However, I think each person's individual HRTF will greatly influence how they percieve the sound of a headphone.
Have you ever messed with a Schiit Jotunheim? Picked up a pair of HD-650s, and my sound card just isn't cutting it. It's more or less identical-sounding to a Magni 2 Uber in terms of the sound output. I was considering a Dark Voice 336SE as I know tubes and HD650s are a tight match, but I've read the tubes aren't happy when they get 6 to 8 hours of use a day.
Curious what genre the HD700 are great with?
Hi there! Which headphones would be good for blues(rock), classic rock, folk, acoustic, and some jazzy tunes? HD600, HD650, HD580, HE400se… or something entirely different altogether?
Anyone over 40 yrs old will appreciate opennes and more detailed and extended highs , newer HE400i are fantastic and super comfortable and can be bought at 220usd - what a bargain!
Hi i'm wondering what to buy out of beyerdynamic DT1990 & HD 700. What do you think is better?
I have the very rare Sennheiser HD545 Reference and I think they would be up there with any of them. I love em 😄
*Thanks for this review.* There is a lot to comment and to mention while listening to this review. For now let me let people know that it depends (also) on source file, how it was recorded!, which format its saved, and of course AMP plays a big role. If I may add, *once I tried the HD800S I couldn't enjoy the HD650. I tried the Focal Clear for 2 weeks, something about the Focal Clear that is much more vibrant above all mentioned above, but I chose the HD800S since I want the separation of sound and clean, but some recordings will sound almost dead on the HD800S while the Focal Clear makes it all alive and good.* I am still looking to have the Focal Utopia!.. BTW, Sennheiser HD820 is not worth its prize for sound wise, unless isolation with good headphones is a must, and it is not real (full) isolation while its sound is not having the specialty of the HD800/S.
Yo thanks for helping me decide. Both 650 and 700 are 50% off on Massdrop now. I’ve wanted a pair of 650s for so long, but never tried 700. I use a DACmini PX btw.
I'm wearing my HD700's while gaming right now. Gotta agree, they're pretty awesome for gaming! The cable is a bit of a beast though.
Excellent for gaming! The cable can be a bit much but I would rather it be beefy than weak.
You are good at review good job
Great video. Would love to see some comparisons between GRADO 325, RS1, RS2, HD650.
Marian 1st I agree I worship my 325e. I feel like it's somehow a special headphone, maybe in the way people say the hd650 is so special.
I've heard the 325e on one pice of gear and wasn't impressed then again another gear and was amazed.
I'd love to see this exact kind of comparison done by DMS3, such a pro, except with 325e, hd650 and el -8, or really any line up from DMS3 that includes Grado 325e.
The Grado Hemp has replaced my hd6xx setup, I love the liveliness and emotion the grado brings. The Hemp looks gorgeous as well
Johan Chandy I feel the same.
Thanks for your videos! I play guitar on Line 6 Helix LT Guitar Multi-effects Processor with headphones. The output has 12 Ohm impedance and as manual says: "provides plenty of gain for high impedance headphones". Do you think it will run HD 650 with 300 Ohm properly?
hello, what changes between the HiFiMan he400i and the he400i 2020? the differences...
hey man, I really liked this comparison. if you don't mind, I have a question. I have a pair of ATH-M50X with BrainWaivez angled pleather pads, ATH-AD900X with HiFiMan valeur pads, and HD 598 SE; but I also own a pair of Genius speakers that I have adjusted to neutral base and increased highs. I watch a lot of anime and listen to different types of music. I love how the ATH-AD900X really bring out the highs and the female vocals. would you recommend I get the HD 650 if I just wanted an all around good pair of headphones for general music listening and movie watching? I have enough to buy the ATH-AD2000X, but Zeos claims that those favor highs, so I started looking into the HD 650. thanks for any help in advanced.
manuelthegreatman HD-650 is hands down the most well rounded set of headphones that money can buy and absolutely phenomenal for vocal clarity. Slightly veiled but still crisp. I've never met anyone who doesn't highly recommend the HD-650
So do you like the 650's?...So do I! Thanks for recognizing that music and its delivery is subjective , so many gear trolls these days. Great video, enjoyed your opinions.
Thanks : )
I'm digging your reviews. I really wanted the HD 650s but I don't have a good setup only a tablet and portable amp. Went with the HE 400is which I absolutely love. I didn't realize how subjective headphones are until I got the he 400is. A lot depends on what genre of music you like. Once I get a laptop amp/DAC I'm going with the HD 650s
great review! I own them all and I cant agree more.
great review thank u the 65o or night hawks just cant decide cheers
Great comparison video, but I do believe you were quite biased on the HD-650s coming into the debate. Thanks for the review!
Been through two HD650s. One of my favourites. They are some of the best headphones for the price - a great reference. I have a LCD2 otherwise I would have kept the 650s. Probably will get another sometime again. :)
Recently acquired the HD700s and technically, they are on another level than the 650. They are so much more transparent, and you feel like you are listening in a large room space. I can see where there may be problematic for some people, depending on music preferences.
One thing about the 650, is that they aren't quite accurate on their top end. But because of their pleasing nature, you may not notice.
The HD700 It takes a bit to get used to. I agree that it has that strange something up top, but really its that extra bit that bring the best recordings to life. I'm still new to the HD700, and I will admit they fatiguing. It is a trade off. You would get fatigued listening to the real instruments live as well. Most consumer cans are attenuated to be inoffensive but also less accurate. We get used to that sound, then you hear the HD700 and it can seriously sound wrong.
HD700 Brilliant for the finest dynamic recordings of classical, jazz, and even electronic. Also, the HD650s are great for binaural recordings, very natural and relaxed. But the Hd700 becomes simply holographic.
Great presentation btw. Subbed
I love the HD700. I think they get a lot more hate than the should. Their sound signature can be a bit harsh compared to normal cans I agree but it comes with the territory.
Thanks for the sub : )
yea bro... hd700 definetely way better than 650s lol i got both started off at hd598s
@@wrencheverydayohiyokosaima7257 funny how times change. Since then, I had a number of sets including the HD800 and Utopia. Finally, I've paired everything down to a several IEMs - Moondrop SSR, Blessing 2 and a Fiio FH5S.
Are the hd650 good with classical music? Or worth paying more for hd700 for much more returns?
@@ohnonate while some may prefer the HD600 as they are a bit more neutral, you can easily adjust to the warmer tone of the 650. It has a very special, sweet yet natural high-end. As long as you are okay with a bit more mid bass and lower midrange bloom/warm they are fantastic for classical music.
The HD700 are more an acquired taste and overall are less accurate. They will sound much more spacious but a bit more artificial. I recommend sticking with the either HD650/6XX,600, HD660S (my current set) or HD560S. Also try experimenting with headphone spatial dsp to get a more speaker like representation of the soundstage. I’ve owned HD800 and Focal Utopia both excellent for classical but after many years I’ve paired back to the HD660S and iems. I’m more than happy now to listen to lower cost iems and headphones. So if you want great technical quality for a low price iems are where it’s at. Low cost planar iems are fantastic for classical especially sets like the Tin Hifi P1 Max and there are some great hybrids to look out for such as Kiwi Ears Quintet, balance armature sets such as Truthear Hexa to the very cheap but effective single dynamic drivers like the 7Hz Zero.
hey im thinking of getting the 650s. what amp/dac do you recommend that make these headphones play to their full potential?
So I know you damaged your Monolith M1060, But I have been interested in getting a pair over the HiFiMan. In your opinion would you even compare them? or are they not even in the same league and the HiFi crush the monolith?
Yoyo, nice review, thank you. Hey a quick question, I am from a small country where I will not be able to find a pair of HD700 and try them. I still remember how disappointed I was when I tried the Beats in-ear headphones. Do you think, is there anyway that the HD700 might disappoint me like how the Beats did? Like you said the HD700 is not for everyone. I have been exposed to some nice amps and speakers because of my dad but I am very new to headphones, I have got HD202 and Momentum in-ear at moment. I have got a tube amp and seriously considering getting a HD700.
Would you / are you working on a headphone / dac / amp guide or educational page? I enjoyed this video a lot and am subscribed now!
Paul Ji that's more or less what I've started covering in the weekly video podcast :) though I may start adding additional educational videos as well. Thanks for the sub! I'm glad to have you here!
Hey! Just discovered this video. Great job. Question. I have hd6xx. Running through a dragonfly red. You mention how you can keep getting more out of these depending on your set up. Could you recommend a dac/amp that would be a good step up from the very capable dragonfly that would reveal more of the hd650 ? Running through my surface book 2 at present. Thanks so much!
Have you tried the HD700s with a different EQ? There were some different presets I found at head-fi using EquilizerAPO that really changed the sound.
I actually tried the same thing with pretty decent results. However I use to many different headphones daily that I found myself often forgetting to disable or re-enable the EQ.
I found myself enjoying the HD700s more once I did the EQ. Thanks for the great comparison!
Sure thing : )
still cant get over with the "weird sound"
where is the video where you modded the HD700? i can't find it anymore
Great video. How about a roundup video to compare representatives of sound signatures from each brand?
that would be super cool. I would have to get my hands on more cans.
Great review thanks
Nice review man, convincing me more on 650s. Hope find nice price in Peru or on amazon.
I am completely knew to this, and I am just wondering if I have a DAC/AMP( Modi2U/Magni2U ) and listen to music Pandora/Spotify on my headphones ( HD650 ) will it sound better than other desktop gaming headphones ( TurtleBeach A40TR MixAmp, Logitech G930 ), or will I have to listen to high fidelity recordings to notice a difference?
Absolutely! High quality recordings certainly help, but HD650s really need an amp to shine regardless of the source quality.
congratulations Great review! an advice? the HIFIMAN HE400i still sound wonderful and especially if you've tried them have improved comfort? thank you
Hey Man. Such a great video. Any experience A/Bing the 650 vs 600? Really wanna spring for the 650s, but there are so many folks who prefer the 600s for neutrality. Would really appreciate your thoughts. Thanks!
amazing vid! Keep it up.
Thanks I appreciate it! : )
I just joined the drop for the 6xx. However, I have no idea what amp/dac to use with them. Seems like there are a ton of options, but I want to get the most out of them for under $500. The R2R11 sounds amazing, but there is no distributor in the US. Help pls?
Get it from China
Awesome review
What about using the 650s without an amp? Will they still sound good?
Would they sound better than the average "consumer headphones" (bose in-ear, Senheiser momentum in-ear, etc)? is what I'm asking.
I listen to hip hop and like headphones with more bass. While would you recommend between the 650 vs 700?
Nice video man ! I wish you continued success on the channel , loved these last 2 !! Ive only been able to rock my hd700 with a old fiio e5 I had paired up with my se535 but I think your spot on when you say that with certain genre's there really nice . I've read some people say the bass was lacking but I think it's pretty good , it not boomy but I think there's plenty of impact depending on what your listening to .
With that said I'm kinda torn on whether to keep them or return them and try out the 650 and put the savings toward a decent amp/dac . So far I've looked at the fulla2 , magni uber/modi uber-multibit , little dot mk2 and the Oppo ha2se . The Oppo is on the list because most nights after work I'm not gonna want to get out my recliner to hit a switch or turn a knob lol . Hopefully mass drop announces before my thirty days are up that the 6xx is going back up and I can have both :) which amp or combo do you think matches up best with the hd700 ?
With the hd700 I would recommend something warm. I personally got the Asgard 2 to match my HD-700. With that in mind though amps like the asgard 2 don't work well with headphones like the HD650 if you ever plan on switching. Also I would say modi/magni isnt really worth it for the price. For slightly more you could have an NFB-11 from audio-GD. Now with all that said my top recommended combo is the HD-650 and NFB-11. Its not cheap but its a match made in heaven.
Great comparison. Just got the 6XX from Massdrop 199 ! Only downside the waiting...
its worth the wait!
definitely, no rush. I'll hear what I have in the meantime.
Great vid makes my purchase of the hd6xx more confidant going for the Schiit fulla 2 next week you said the he400 are harder to drive and sounds not clear past half on the fulla is it the same with the 650's on the fulla?
Woo! The point where the fulla 2 distorts is almost uncomfortably loud on the HD650s so I wouldn't worry too much about that. With the HE-400 since they are so hard to drive its easier to hear the distortion threshold (which is still very minor distortion).
Have you tried Fidelio X2's?
I haven't yet! I've been trying to find a used set somewhere to review or audition.
Nice to see your channel (and being nice to the widely hated hd700). Keep up the good work. What speaker would you say to be a step up from the hd650? And what cables are you using on the 650!
All planars have large changes in sound with enclosures.. It's the nature of their driver structure! There's an industry that takes 200$ t50rp, redesigns their enclosures, makes some equalization to the same drivers and sell them for 1000$. And the thing is people find the sound worth the money. Planars are something you can definitely go crazy experimenting with!.
You cannot go wrong with the hd650s - My favorite quote of the video! The more I see these videos the more I want to upgrade my hd598 (which already sound quite amazing to me)
Thanks a lot! I actually use a cheap amazon cable with my HD650s since I use them in the studio so much. I wouldn't want a nice cable to get damaged. That being said instead of getting a more expensive pair of headphones than the HD650 I would rather someone get a nicer amp. The thing about HD650s is that they scale in quality with nicer and nicer amps. I've even seen people with $10k in their amp and source using HD650s as their only headphones.
Oh! and on the subject of planars since you mentioned them, the Monolith M560 video is uploading as we speak!
Thinking about getting the hd 700s for gaming. Any good suggestions for dac/amp with these headphones?
Hd650, Fidelio x2 or k712 pro?
100% gaming witch is better for competitive play? Footsteps? Pin pointing exactly where the enemy is? HD650 VS DT1990?
Joel Garcia hands down dt1990
What about AKG 712 vs Hd650 in sound quality?
Did you dent the grills on the 650? looked that way in the close up
yeaaaaaaa
Have you considered reviewing neutral IEMs, like etymotic ones?
josh Subet yes indeed! I'm trying to build up my IEM experience just a bit more before I start posting reviews.
I love my hd700 but I need to get an amp and dac for them. I was thinking kids labs element 2 but cant really afford that. What would you recommend for the hd 700s. If I need to buy separate amp dac and buy 1 at a time so I can get better stuff that's ok to. Also I'm fine with used gear as well. I just cant spend more than $300 for either the amp or dac individually and I'd rather be around $400 for the total if I can.
I don't know why you're saying the he-400s are uncomfortable. I've had mine for 2 years now and I think they are extremely comfortable, and I've owned the Senn 700s before.
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good job dude!
Ronald Henson thanks! More of these on the way
I have the HD650's and I love them. How much more detail can you really hear with the HD700's? Would you say its worth it to have them both? ( My set up is Aune X1s DAC and Aune X7s Class A Amp).
The difference is pretty substantial. The thing is that "detail" doesn't always equal quality. In stock form, HD650's have that really natural sound quality that makes an acoustic guitar sound just like an acoustic guitar. Stock HD700's have WAY more soundstage, layers and "detail" but sometimes that detail can make things sound exaggerated and less real and natural. I had them and found them incredibly exciting but also fatiguing and much less generally likable than 650's. I feel like if you put 650's on someone's head they are going to comment on how good the music sounds and if you put 700's on someone's head they're going to comment on how good the headphones sound.
There are now several mods available which offer options for improving the peaky-ness and un-naturalness of the 700's. I just got another pair (because someone offered them to me for $225) and even the simplest mod has made them much better. For me, it's like a exciting flavor of ice cream that you keep in the freezer because sometimes you just want pretzel-peanutbutter-mocha but you probably won't eat it everyday.
andtothewestamerica awesome analogy! Just ordered the 6xx as my first set of nice cans. So excited!!
Have you talked about the differences in HD650 drivers yet? Like silver vs. black... i may have missed it.
Not quite. I'm going to do a video soon about life with HD650s as daily drivers.
Perfect.
I try out other headphones and I just keep coming back to the 650s...
Axel Grell from sennheiser wanted them to follow pure harman Kardon response(HD6 series).... It is not Sennheiser House sound.. the house sound is HD414 and HD800s
I was looking at the HD700's to replace my HD555's, your video may have convinced me that maybe I need to just go with the safe route (and cheaper) and go with the HD650's instead.
They will be used primarily for gaming, would the onboard amp for the Creative ZXR be enough, it's 600ohm apparently.
Great honest video, ill be subscribing for sure.
Aaron Quarrell most people will enjoy HD650s more than 700 so good call. I can't speak for the sound card but most are lacking in quality.
Yeah it's pretty much the final thing to determine if the Amp is up to snuff, otherwise I'll need to add a DAC which adds extra cost. You mentioned gaming in your video, what do you hook yours up to for gaming DAC\Amp wise?
Had a quick look through your channel and couldn't see a video in regard to your sound setup for gaming. I'd love to see a video like that! Headphones, DAC, Amp etc. Their is a lot of crap out there, would like to see the good stuff!
Do you really think the HD650 is more comfortable than the Beyerdynamic line such as the DT880 or T90? I made my HE400 a little more comfortable by adding a thick piece of weatherstripping to the bottom of the headband and using J-money natural leather ear pads (similar to yours). But I agree, I'm looking for something new due to the comfort. I also have an after market cable but still, the cable's placement is another point of discomfort.
Absolutely. HD650 is currently the best I've ever had in comfort.
I have to agree my old HD 600 (and the HD598s) where the most comfortable headphones I've owned. My Beyerdynamics' are also very comfortable, but the Sennheiser's are by favorites in terms of comfort.
I don't find the HD 400 uncomfortable but definitely not the most comfortable. I enjoyed their fun v-shaped sound. I miss them more then my old HD 600.
What do you think of the HE-400i next to the HE-400 and the Sennheisers?
I haven't heard the "i" version yet but I have a pair on the way : )
Have you gotten the 400i yet? I'd be very interested in your impressions. I was torn between this and the 650, but the 400i was available for $250 on Amazon again this week and I couldn't resist (plus since I am using Fidelio X2s ATM, I was curious to try a planar). They are supposedly coming back into stock on Monday and scheduled to be delivered on Wednesday. Several third party dealers have them at this ridiculously low price (with Prime and fulfilled by Amazon; the Hifiman site lists them as authorized dealers) I am just hoping they are legitimately new as stated and not repackaged returns or very old stock with the F connectors.
Would you still recommend the hd 700 over the dt 1990 pro from beyerdynamic?
Dt1990 is much better
@@DMS3TV would you as well take it over the hifiman Ananda , LCD 2 even beyerdynamics own T1 as well as the best headphone under a 1000?
I owned Sennheiser hd700 2 times and I'm about to buy then again. The treble spike is the reason I sell them but I will try and mod them when I rebuy them again for the 3rd time. What I really like about the hd700 is the instrument separation from the wide soundstage. I haven't tried any other high end headphones before tho. Might get a use massdrop hd6xx (hd650) idk.
4 years later what is your opinion? (And current setup)
@@cannibalholocaust3015 dump headphones and get high end speakers.
I have a choice to get new HE400i ($190) or used HD650 ($270). If this is purely about audio quality and cost performance, which one do you guys think I should go for?
HD650 due to comfort and their warm, neutral, lush sound signature. Then get the he400i down the road. He400i has a tighter faster planer magnetic sound. It really depends on your preference. Go to some stores and try them out first if you can. By now I know that I prefer a more warm sound signature. My ears are a bit sensitive to higher frequencies.
Y the hell r Hifiman s so unbearably uncomfortable. Would changing pads help. Could you suggest some big pads for Hifiman sundaras
Would you recommend picking the HD700, which is currently at 500 USD for classical, acustic, jazz and female vocals, as well as for gaming, AND the HD650s for everything else as my main headphone, or should I just pick the 650 and stop wasting money on headphones? I can sort of afford picking both, but not sure if it is actually worth it. I currently own a 598 which I really like, but I want to upgrade.
personally I think the 650 is a better choice all around. The 700 is very fatiguing. Though I am making a modding video on them soon.
DMS3 TV cool, I'll get the 650 for sure and decide later on if the 700 is something I need. It just went massively in price in my country anyways, so if anything, I'll have to wait. Thanks :)
The veil of the 650 killed them for me.
I got the 600 the day after.
I had the HE-400, but the highs have something really weird in there that I eventually could not stand anymore (fatigued me to the point of mild tinnitus).
The HD-700 Were great... as long as the wrong treble did not show up.
So I settled for a HD600+LCD2+Beyer 660.
LCD2 for most music. HD600 for gaming (short gaming id use lcd2 still but they are too heavy for long periods) and DT 660 for classic. The DT 660 smokes out the LCD2 and the HD600 in air instruments.
I realy wish the LCD 2 was lighter. Id love to play some of my games with it... its just not possible for longer than 40 minutes without breaks.
What would be the best gaming headphone under $300? I have Sennheiser HD 598's and I dont like really how they sound and don't feel like they give the soundstage others are impressed by? (Sorry if this is stupid, I know nothing about audio)
hmmm. That's fair. What kind of sound are you looking for?
Im not sure, I want something less boring than the 598's but want a good soundstage/positional accuracy for fps games if that is helpful! :)
Personally I would say the best under $300 is the HD6XX (hopefully going on massdrop again soon) OR Mad-Dog T50RP Mods if you have an amp.
DMS3 TV okay thank you !
Detriment hd598 are bass light so they can be boring for some people. First try equalizing some bass in to it. And see if you are Amping them properly (hd598 is quite easy to drive but you can still drive them wrong). Headphone options, follow what DMS3 TV told in the video. I would add that in addition to hd650 and he400i, Philips Fidelio are also known to sound really good and have a fun sound similar to he400
any nice amp for the HD6xx/650 for classical music? thank you
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Seems like Sennheiser HD650 is getting a successor soon! Both moon-audio and sonic electronix are stating the HD650 are discontinued (source : reddit)!! Here's me hoping they don't screw up anything.
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DMS3 TV sennheiser seem to be quite confident on them. Both hd650 and 600 are getting discontinued. The hd599 as people said, is mostly just a cosmetic change to hd598 so this one could go that way also.
Edit : HD6x0 are staying. Sennheiser support agent replied. Lol reddit was going quite ruckus for a while, myself too!
Oh man, you almost gave me a heart attack! I have surpassed both my HD600 and HD6XX (read: HD650), but I'd still be heartbroken to see them replaced.
For the record......my HD600 step-up is the Stax 2170. My HD6XX step-up is the TH-X00 Purplehearts :)
Sennheiser recently cleared up all the confusion. They said that they are not being discontinued yet :p. Just wanted to clear up the confusion...
Is it me, or is them discontinuing the headphones a great thing? It increases it's market value because they stood by the test of time so resale value will go up.
I just replaced my He 400 with the monoprice m1060, And to me, they are just the perfect headphone