iAnnihilate gives his thoughts on which mid lane heroes are best in 7.35c Watch on twitch: / iannihilate Follow on twitter: / iannihilatedota Coaching on: metafy.gg/@iannihilate
Malrine’s build on leshrac is nuts (I’ve seen lorenof and others pro midlaners going for aswell). You max diabolic edict, the damage output is insane (you end up 0-3-2-1 or 1-3-1-1 if you want a value point on stun, but 2 points on E is always more useful imo for last hitting and pushing up the wave for rune control and ganking).
Everytime i play Zeus i always get min. 15 kills (not kill steals!), I am an absolute beast mid game and then something happens, my team falls over and I just feel worse than a support hitting arc lightnings for barely noticeable damage... feels like the scaling is off after that shard change. I used to have much higher winrate when he had that static field passive cause it scaled into the late game...
Good tier list. After shivas nerf/cost increase feel like tinker hitting the “cause you hate yourself tier” been seeing lens, Areliks, mrxsmurf play him a lot less
good video, but still missing some heroes, specialy arc warden, pudge. They are picked a lot of games. Same silencer, bloodseeker. I think this tier list might be fit by picking stats.... But still rly good video, ty
Im low mmr here. Could u help explain why is OD that low or is OD only good in lower brackets? Would personally put him S or A. He does well in most matchups. has natural afinity for hex, great bkb user. Parasama is broken. And generally has good dmg and imprison is pretty versatile. I cant think of that many drawbacks other than farm speed. With the sniper and viper they have their obvious weakness which isnt exploited in low brackets due to lack of awareness and communication but i feel OD is pretty all rounded? No?
Depends what rank are you exactly. OD is on that 10k games tier, but on lower ranks, if it's really really good, there's a high chance it's a smurf. It's one of those smurf favorite heroes
I would have to agree, legend 1 and OD is my current hero of choice. Feels like I can win in most lanes since there’s nit many great counters. Plus it counters a lot of the meta picks (abba, axe, troll) due to the fact you can imprison for any duration-type ability or to save
OD gets punished a lot by strong players, most mid laners want to escape to the jungle and rotate more between power runes 6-10 minutes and he can't without 4 in orb. A lot of OD's get punished at my rank unless they win their lane so hard the enemy cant group and smoke with their mid
I’ve been learning a lot of Ember and I find that my biggest problem stems from my mid game slowing if my team struggles. I also find myself mixing aghs in my builds almost exclusively after my Mage Slayer / Glipner build and it just slows my timings. The hero feels harder to learn than others at around 1.1k
Have an ember guide on the way! I'd say mage slayer > maelstorm > defenisve item (shivas/linkens/bkb) is much better only get aghs if your mana pool can support it and you are already lvl 18 AND need the intiation/catch Most of the time you don't really need aghs and just being tanky with flameguard is easier
I tried a little bit of muerta mid when she came out, can work but I found it hard when enemy groups as 3 and ganks a lot not much mobility and no escape is tough
If i forgot to put him there he would be in hero spammers only! If you're really good at him maybe c+ or b tier but you might find a lot more success playing it as pos 1
You are dreamimng if you think ember is still that good man. play more in the patch, if you pick it early you will greef the game 60% and i say it as level 30 ember spemer.. the magslyer nurf make the item kind of bad on him but you still feel like you need that.. he have a lot of mana problems vs all the defus in the meta and is dmg is kind of low (he can never kill a hero like centaur that you see in every second game)
Honestly if I were to update the list right now I'd swap puck to S and ember to A But ember is still an incredibly strong hero and I'd personally prefer to play it over puck currently
You need to learn to play od man this hero is ez a he shi on lane on puck ember invoker and ofc on all the mele heros and he hardcounter most of the best carrys right knows. And the hero have really high %win on dream league
Great vid bro. I love tierlists 🔥
useful vid, thx brah.
Malrine’s build on leshrac is nuts (I’ve seen lorenof and others pro midlaners going for aswell). You max diabolic edict, the damage output is insane (you end up 0-3-2-1 or 1-3-1-1 if you want a value point on stun, but 2 points on E is always more useful imo for last hitting and pushing up the wave for rune control and ganking).
yeah leshrac is a hero that looks good to me but still not sure about yet
w0 great video bro!
Everytime i play Zeus i always get min. 15 kills (not kill steals!), I am an absolute beast mid game and then something happens, my team falls over and I just feel worse than a support hitting arc lightnings for barely noticeable damage... feels like the scaling is off after that shard change. I used to have much higher winrate when he had that static field passive cause it scaled into the late game...
man we really need only mid content creator plz keep on
Good tier list. After shivas nerf/cost increase feel like tinker hitting the “cause you hate yourself tier” been seeing lens, Areliks, mrxsmurf play him a lot less
you know what he probably should be in that tier he is down quite bad
good stuff
good video, but still missing some heroes, specialy arc warden, pudge. They are picked a lot of games. Same silencer, bloodseeker. I think this tier list might be fit by picking stats.... But still rly good video, ty
nice
Hoodwink should be in this tier list for mid
A tierlist without arc warden, pretty solid.
Im low mmr here. Could u help explain why is OD that low or is OD only good in lower brackets?
Would personally put him S or A. He does well in most matchups. has natural afinity for hex, great bkb user. Parasama is broken. And generally has good dmg and imprison is pretty versatile. I cant think of that many drawbacks other than farm speed.
With the sniper and viper they have their obvious weakness which isnt exploited in low brackets due to lack of awareness and communication but i feel OD is pretty all rounded? No?
Depends what rank are you exactly. OD is on that 10k games tier, but on lower ranks, if it's really really good, there's a high chance it's a smurf. It's one of those smurf favorite heroes
@@magatcvg im ancient 3. I don't wanna attribute it to smurfing. I really don't think most OD players are smurfs though.
I would have to agree, legend 1 and OD is my current hero of choice. Feels like I can win in most lanes since there’s nit many great counters. Plus it counters a lot of the meta picks (abba, axe, troll) due to the fact you can imprison for any duration-type ability or to save
OD gets punished a lot by strong players, most mid laners want to escape to the jungle and rotate more between power runes 6-10 minutes and he can't without 4 in orb.
A lot of OD's get punished at my rank unless they win their lane so hard the enemy cant group and smoke with their mid
@@iAnnihilate thank you for explaining. my bracket the mid 1v1 last till 10mins, i think that would be the difference.
I’ve been learning a lot of Ember and I find that my biggest problem stems from my mid game slowing if my team struggles.
I also find myself mixing aghs in my builds almost exclusively after my Mage Slayer / Glipner build and it just slows my timings. The hero feels harder to learn than others at around 1.1k
Have an ember guide on the way!
I'd say mage slayer > maelstorm > defenisve item (shivas/linkens/bkb) is much better only get aghs if your mana pool can support it and you are already lvl 18 AND need the intiation/catch
Most of the time you don't really need aghs and just being tanky with flameguard is easier
what an ember fun club 😁
How about for solo turbo players? Can this list be valid?
turbo is completely different unfortunately, really just because how fast you scale skips the early game
@@iAnnihilate thank you. Indeed, even if you win your lane hard and kill twice or thrice, after ten minutes all the tide is changing...
What do you think about muerta mid? I played it for 250 games and 65% winrate
I tried a little bit of muerta mid when she came out, can work but I found it hard when enemy groups as 3 and ganks a lot
not much mobility and no escape is tough
65% in herald match
ancient 4
@@Chazz0010
imagine playing D tier, vs A tier and won the game
Where is arc warden?
If i forgot to put him there he would be in hero spammers only!
If you're really good at him maybe c+ or b tier but you might find a lot more success playing it as pos 1
Why’s puck countering huskar?
not so much a counter but you won't be as far behind form lane like ember would, ranged and more tools to get cs to lvl 6
No broodmother mid? Sure, let's keep this a secret :)
You are dreamimng if you think ember is still that good man. play more in the patch, if you pick it early you will greef the game 60% and i say it as level 30 ember spemer.. the magslyer nurf make the item kind of bad on him but you still feel like you need that.. he have a lot of mana problems vs all the defus in the meta and is dmg is kind of low (he can never kill a hero like centaur that you see in every second game)
Hes conceptually good but feels so fucking bad to play now. He's meta for sure
He’s good but they fucked up every timing, I have 500 ember games and even the sleight chains combo fails everytime since the change
Honestly if I were to update the list right now I'd swap puck to S and ember to A
But ember is still an incredibly strong hero and I'd personally prefer to play it over puck currently
Thanks for the upload. What's the trick to keeping up on NW with puck?
You need to learn to play od man this hero is ez a he shi on lane on puck ember invoker and ofc on all the mele heros and he hardcounter most of the best carrys right knows.
And the hero have really high %win on dream league
Can't play dota - decides it's time to make a tierlist haha xD nice
Here's to hoping you get abandons more often
this is a biased list , ember s tier my ass
A lot of mids can stomp him and mage slayer was nerfed
really? dp at d tier she can beat the shit out of ember.
truash me ember will die lol
hahaha. when he is punished to que, he uses this not dota playing time to make the video of the tier list :) how efficient :)