This video is really brilliant, you can really hear the difference it makes. He's obviously studied this stuff for a long time and knows what he's talking about.
Is nice to hear someone explain sound because no professional can truly explain verbally what they mean but Hannes does a great job teaching. awesome help.
Guys, awesome video here. Gets right to the point and focuses on an all to often neglected part of making music. Great instruction, explanation, and A/B to drive the point home.
I just recently discovered that pesky 4 khz point. I remember braggin to my girl about this amazing discovery and how it clears almost all percs and hi hats and especialy RIDES, and today i found this vid, and it really made me glad to see i'm on the right track. BTW, don't make this cut on the master channel, like i did, because it will sound flat, guys.. don't be lazy.. Thanks for the great video mate! i'm definitely subscribed.
Great video, would love to see more focused like this. Maybe more videos on making a mix? Similar to Abelton Live School? (Like a very edited session of making a track with an artist)
This still applies if you’re EQing a drum group since around 4kHz you’re mainly affecting cymbals. But be careful with how much you cut and how wide your Q is.
Yes, but the point being, to make things sound EQUAL in energy. A lot of people don't know what they're doing and add eq, boosting areas, just because. We need more videos like this to steer people in the correct direction
Is this even needed? In for example Jeff Mills' - The Bells th-cam.com/video/DwpedKWwS3w/w-d-xo.html this whistling is very present, but the track is iconic and the whistling doesn't really matter here.
ha! was thinking the same thing. It wouldn't surprise me if mixed this on a some sort of simple desk straight to 2" Tape. But I would really be curious to know. the story and breakdown of the bells.
I really appreciate this series! However I'd enjoy those videos even more if someone could de-ess the voice overs... I'm not sure if it's just me but listening to Hannes on my (rather decent) headphones is quite hurtful to my ears...
Kevin Burns yea the vid was well helpful , i think you can pretty much buy every element of a track already processed and ready but that defeats the whole purpose really init , much more fun making ya own sounds
Leave these kind of adjustments to the mastering engineers like him. Focus on making music. With all the technology these days its easy to get lost in the small details.
+djvartan Thats stupid, a mastering engineer can't fix mixing issues, thats like rearranging a photo after its taken. But sure, keep telling yourself that you can leave everything as it is, but I imagine it won't make you a very good producer since the technical aspect is, and have always been important, for a producer.
ToxinX Music (Official) For me personally, there is a concept of beauty in art, and fine tuning things definitely contributes to that. Perfection is impossible, but I don't want to be cluttered by doubt when I listen to my own music because I hear things that sounds bad. Music is changing along with technology, you can't compare how things sounded 15 years ago to how things sound today. If I listen to a house track released when I barely was born, I'm amazed of what they could achieve with what they had. If I hear a song released in 2015 that sounds exactly the same way, I wonder where the will to experiment is. But it all depends on what your own goals are I suppose, if the creative process of composing is all you're after, then that's completely fine.
+djvartan The point of making these notches in the drums is to make room for the more musical elements. If a mastering engineer makes these notches it would be on the mix as a whole, which would mean the musical elements getting attenuated as well. Which means that melody / synth you slaved over for hours won't be appreciated as much. It's much better to spend time cleaning up individual sounds first.
„Cleaning up 909 sounds with Hannes Bieger“ - man that’s a lot of sounds to clean up in one video
underrated comment xD
This song sounds like a keygen lol
Nailed it!
DIGGS lmfao
old R2R work?
hai ragione, è abbastanza insipida la tracchia. ho sentito keygen track parecchio più interessanti. :)
🤣🤣
6:21 - 6:29 *MIND BLOWN*
This video is really brilliant, you can really hear the difference it makes. He's obviously studied this stuff for a long time and knows what he's talking about.
Very clear difference between the filtered and unfiltered sounds. Good stuff!
A nice side-effect of doing this is, that it is SO much easier to adjust levels after the gremlins have been rooted out.
Hope it's start of whole series! Hannes Bieger is truly master, thx for this :)
This is excellent. Really important to do this
Is nice to hear someone explain sound because no professional can truly explain verbally what they mean but Hannes does a great job teaching. awesome help.
I only have to listen to how that sound all sits together in the mix to know I could learn a LOT here. Many Thanks Hannes!
More tutorials from Hannes please!
Crazy how such a small adjustment can let those arps breath!
The highs sound smoother after the treatment. Awesome!
Interesting content for people who is producing with digital machines and libraries.
Thanks.
Best,
Guys, awesome video here. Gets right to the point and focuses on an all to often neglected part of making music. Great instruction, explanation, and A/B to drive the point home.
equalizers are neglected? just joking, i like the guy work.
just bought a pair of those Genelec monitors 8040B. What a vast improvement on my old Yamaha HS80M's, they sound next level
I like how you say "kinda an expert" hahahha 😆
Thanks Hannes. That was very clear and useful. Also reminds me to listen more analytically and critically.
it`s amazing how much clearer the bass synth sounds after treatment. Nice work man!
*IMPRESSIONANTE* :P
absolutely fantastic!!!! I can really hear the difference!
huh... I guess I shouldn't have layered 3 closed high hats each with there own unique frequency spikes... it sounded pretty good at the time.
Did you have a sidechained donk? If not, then you're pretty shit.
Lol - All depends if it made the tune - or made it worse
I just recently discovered that pesky 4 khz point. I remember braggin to my girl about this amazing discovery and how it clears almost all percs and hi hats and especialy RIDES, and today i found this vid, and it really made me glad to see i'm on the right track. BTW, don't make this cut on the master channel, like i did, because it will sound flat, guys.. don't be lazy..
Thanks for the great video mate! i'm definitely subscribed.
Interesting. I always have problems getting rides sounding right in the mix - it seems that this 4khz whistle might be why.
This is one of the best vids I've seen on this issue. Seriously well done.
but at the same time those frequencies are interesting but perhaps not all the time. I was noticing this as Hannes was taking them in and out.
Great reminder. I'm tedious about this sort of thing in the low end, but need to spend more time up top 👌
What analyser is that on the separate monitor ?
This guy is a gem. Awesome tips!
First guy in the business that understand importance of speaker stands. German thinking.
Great demo. Thanks Hannes!
This guy isn't mixing all that Berlin hard stuff for no reason. He knows where to focus his session energy to make techno glue.
such a good demonstration
Bloody hell that was brilliant.
GREAT STUFF thanks
Great tips!
Great video, would love to see more focused like this. Maybe more videos on making a mix? Similar to Abelton Live School? (Like a very edited session of making a track with an artist)
Awesome advice! I will definitely be utilizing this in my mixes.
I would still bring the 4k on the ride down another 2db but it could be my monitors
Man I want those genelec 8250a's!
my young music mind just exploded.
Hannes, you are really boss! thanks again!!
Gizmo approves of this video.
wow...a true master !!!!! I want more
Thank you Hanes very useful
please tell me hearing white noise gets better over time
Very helpful,more videos like this please
Amazing video. Thank you so much
great video!
Great video. Thank you.
great tut, be great if he did a kick and bass one
What about on a synth with harsh high end that has multiple harsh frequencies?
Brilliant! Thank you!
Thank you so much
What is the Name of the Console ?
I would like to know if he is using this same technique in low mid/low frequencies, because especially in low mid when you cut 4db you loose A LOT
spectrum analyzer plugin in use?
Make the same with all instruments not only in hihat and cymbals :)
awesome!!
Thanks a lot
I like that he listed off these labels at the beginning like everyone knows them.. bruh who?
EFFEN AMAZING!
Tips for treating drums recorded as a performance as one track... this is all really useful but can be hard to apply if your drums aren’t in pieces
This still applies if you’re EQing a drum group since around 4kHz you’re mainly affecting cymbals. But be careful with how much you cut and how wide your Q is.
Thanks for the tip!
does anyone know the analyzer hes using?
Awesome! Thanks man!
Thanks! Good one!
well he's using an eq...
Yes, but the point being, to make things sound EQUAL in energy. A lot of people don't know what they're doing and add eq, boosting areas, just because. We need more videos like this to steer people in the correct direction
What DAW is he using?
Is this even needed? In for example Jeff Mills' - The Bells th-cam.com/video/DwpedKWwS3w/w-d-xo.html this whistling is very present, but the track is iconic and the whistling doesn't really matter here.
ha! was thinking the same thing. It wouldn't surprise me if mixed this on a some sort of simple desk straight to 2" Tape. But I would really be curious to know. the story and breakdown of the bells.
th-cam.com/video/qqW6Dfct6jQ/w-d-xo.html probably done just like this.
cool stuff :)
I really appreciate this series! However I'd enjoy those videos even more if someone could de-ess the voice overs... I'm not sure if it's just me but listening to Hannes on my (rather decent) headphones is quite hurtful to my ears...
Significant difference.
Which spectrum analyzer is he using?
+DJ Vibe Id like to know that too
+DJ Vibe Spektre
It's Flux Pure Analyzer fluxhome.com/project/pure-analyser-essential/
Are there more videos from this guy
BTW, check out Alex's channel as well. He's a great teacher. :)
i don't see any vids :(
Great video. One question....what's the best way to determine at which frequencies these resonances are occurring that you will be attenuating?
Your ears
Narrow boost & sweeping frequencies
what about compression, can it remove the peaks too?
No. For this particular example it wouldn’t work. But you could use a dynamic equalizer if you don’t want to permanently cut those frequencies.
great tutor
Night and day like, huh?
Whats that big LED meter in the background??
Emm levels...
+Scott Frost That's a DA Lavry Gold converter (behind Hannes)
+Emil Dragomirescu don't tell him the cost :D
it sound way tighter... i wonder if there are mastered 909 samples already out there..
+Kevin Burns I bet there is, and for the 606 and others.
that cheating
james murray lol true.. dam i wrote that 9 months ago.. there certainly is premastered samples out there. I still consider this a great video though.
Kevin Burns yea the vid was well helpful , i think you can pretty much buy every element of a track already processed and ready but that defeats the whole purpose really init , much more fun making ya own sounds
Using 909 hihats is cheating. Mine some copper and make your own hihats. ;)
Wow.
Ve vant ze money Zebowski....
Fuckin professor shit right here
Leave these kind of adjustments to the mastering engineers like him. Focus on making music. With all the technology these days its easy to get lost in the small details.
+djvartan Thats stupid, a mastering engineer can't fix mixing issues, thats like rearranging a photo after its taken. But sure, keep telling yourself that you can leave everything as it is, but I imagine it won't make you a very good producer since the technical aspect is, and have always been important, for a producer.
Tell that to the thousands of producers using the classic drum machines that never did these kind of adjustments and people love their tunes.
ToxinX Music (Official) For me personally, there is a concept of beauty in art, and fine tuning things definitely contributes to that. Perfection is impossible, but I don't want to be cluttered by doubt when I listen to my own music because I hear things that sounds bad.
Music is changing along with technology, you can't compare how things sounded 15 years ago to how things sound today. If I listen to a house track released when I barely was born, I'm amazed of what they could achieve with what they had. If I hear a song released in 2015 that sounds exactly the same way, I wonder where the will to experiment is.
But it all depends on what your own goals are I suppose, if the creative process of composing is all you're after, then that's completely fine.
+djvartan The point of making these notches in the drums is to make room for the more musical elements. If a mastering engineer makes these notches it would be on the mix as a whole, which would mean the musical elements getting attenuated as well. Which means that melody / synth you slaved over for hours won't be appreciated as much.
It's much better to spend time cleaning up individual sounds first.
+djvartan Lol, you don't want your mastering engineer making a 4dB cut in your high end.
But we don't want to focus on a "synth" or an "arp" because nobody listens to that German crap anymore Hannes!
But props to your studio that's HQ!