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- Roger Rees as Lord John Marbury in The West Wing episode 112 "He shall, from time to time."
CUT TO: INT. THE PRESIDENT'S BEDROOM - DAY
Bartlet and Leo are settled on the couch. Lord Marbury is across them.
MARBURY
You know, there are some marvelous flu remedies known in the certain remote parts of
the subcontinent. Licorice root, for instance, combined with bamboo sap and a strong
shot of whiskey. Ginger root, also, mixed with, uh, citrus peel.
BARTLET
And a strong shot of whiskey?
MARBURY
Yes, of course. In fact, you can throw out the ginger root and citrus peel, and still
be well in your way.
BARTLET
What have you got for me, John?
MARBURY
Well, um, after speaking at length this past week with your secretaries of state and
defense, as well as your joint chiefs and various embassy officials, I believe this.
Buy them off.
BARTLET
Buy them?
MARBURY
Yes, sir.
BARTLET
How?
MARBURY
Mr. President, for several centuries, my kingdom has ruled India with a stick and carrot.
When we had a particular problem with someone, one solution we would try is to make him
a maharaja. Thats kind of a regional king. We would pay him off with an annual tribute,
and in return, he would be loyal to the crown.
LEO
Lord Marbury, under our Constitution, our President is not empowered to create maharajas.
MARBURY
Yes. Thank you for clearing that up, Leo. Having been educated at Cambridge and the
Sorbonne, I am, as you know, exceedingly stupid.
BARTLET
John, please.
MARBURY
Youve been paying the world off since the industrial age. Foreign aid, during the Cold
War was you paying dictators to be on your side. To this very day, you pay Korea not to
develop nuclear weapons.
BARTLET
What does India want?
MARBURY
A computer industry, and for that, they require an infrastructure, and that is what you
can give them.
LEO
Why?
MARBURY
Its the price you pay.
LEO
For avoiding a war halfway around the world?
MARBURY
For being rich, free and alive all at the same time, and for the criminally negligent
behavior of your Congress in not checking the proliferation of nuclear devices.
BARTLET
Your friend, the prime minister?
MARBURY
Rikki.
BARTLET
Hes gonna go for this?
MARBURY
If its handled properly.
BARTLET
All right, you tell the ambassador well discuss this in three months. In three months,
John. I dont want this to be like quid pro quo.
MARBURY
Yes, sir.
BARTLET
Thats the carrot. Leo, whats the stick?
LEO
In the next 24 hours, we want to see recon photos of Indian divisions retreating. If we
dont, were gonna seize Indian assets and so will our NATO allies, and G-7s gonna call
in its loans.
BARTLET
They put command-control in the field, John, and were gonna get physical. You make damn
sure they know that.
MARBURY
Well, then, uh, I have my instructions.
The three of them stand.
BARTLET
Talk to the ambassador. I want Fitzwallace to have photos in 24 hours.
MARBURY
Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. [leaves] - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
This man would have been an amazing Doctor Who.
Matt Smith before Matt Smith.
@@noahbrown6970
I think he might actually have been on the short list for it more than once. Definitely on the short list for The Doctor Who movie.
I thought that he would have been an excellent sherrif of Nottingham...
Or a terrifying Master - all polite and apparently bumbling, until you realise you're an insect in a spider's web
He would have been an excellent choice for the 8th or 9th doctor, not replacing either just sliding the scale.
I loved the Lord John Marbury character. In casual encounters, he would come off as a shallow drunkard, and then there would be those moments where he'd hit you with an absolutely searing intellect. RIP, Roger Rees
Well put!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every moment he was on screen was a joy to behold. He was one of the most brilliant, amazing and downright fun characters they had, and Roger Rees brought him to life marvelously.
Yep, just like the Dr. in "Dr. Who", plays the idiot fool until you realize that he is at least 18 steps ahead of everyone and can bring down a government with just six whispered words: "Don't you think she looks tired?". I also loved his over the top flirtations, acting the rouge and letting the women in the W.H. know that he knew exactly where the real power behind the throne lay and would keep their secret.
He was also great in _The Crossing_ as one of George Washington's officers. From Maine, I think, from back when Maine was a region of Massachusetts.
@@BradyPostma Don’t forget the Sheriff of Rottingham delivering the bad news in a good way…
"It's the price you pay"
"For avoiding a war half way around the world?"
"For being rich, free, and alive all at the same time."
That last line echos one from Jed's favorite movie, "The Lion in Winter": There's no other way to be alive, king, and fifty all at once.
@@almostfmIn 1999, Stockard Channing starred as Queen Eleanor in a limited run revival of the play on Broadway. She was brilliant!
"We can hide the women. But the man deserves a drink."
"The world's flying apart at the seams, John."
"Well! Thank God you sent for me!"
i really think the west wing was the "feel good anime" of the decade
Such brilliant casting of Roger Rees. No one else could have played the part. I just wish he had been in a few more episodes.
I could say more, but *Ken Moore* said it all.
Rowan Atkinson
Wonderful actor and such a kind man. Had the pleasure of meeting him before he passed away and he gave me some good advice for drama school auditions. Lovely man. RIP Mr Rees
When I was at drama school (uni) we watched an RSC video on techniques for playing different kinds of characters. It featured, obviously, a bunch of different RSC actors giving short speech interpretations. Unsurprisingly it featured Patrick Stewart showing the gravitas, yet humanity, of an authority figure. Also unsurprisingly, if you had seen him on screen, it featured Roger Rees doing one of Shakespeare's comic-relief minor roles very largely and very lightly.
for being rich, free and alive- all at the same time.
aVallark clearly Sorkin has seen the lion in winter
we are nether free nor rich in the United States : (
chazz Lucas, Lord John Marbury is referring to the entire country, not any one individual person.
@@nudist0885 what ?
@@nudist0885 we have no economy
I will always get a chuckle from that bit about whiskey.
i always get a chuckle from the idea of "india developing an industry"
"I don't want this to be quid pro quo." Oh Josiah, you rascal;-)
Some actors are blessed with acting skill that is raised to an infinitely more compelling level by a voice that commands attention. Mr. Rees possessed such a voice - clarity that sings with interest. Richard Burton, Ian McKellen, Benedict Cumberbatch are other examples. One can watch them in almost anything and feel moved, even if they are merely reading names from the telephone book. It is talent at its best. When Rees was on the screen in West Wing, everyone else became secondary.
You brought humor and charm to every role,,,,RIP. Mr. rees
Qapla!
He was the only light in that awful "A Midsummer Night's Dream".
RIP Roger Rees. A fine actor.
"I dont want this to be like Quid Pro Quo"
He was smart.
This is what happened in the Cuban missile crisis. It wasnt publicly known at the time but Kruschev demanded the USA remove some of its missiles in Turkey. Kennedy did this after the heat went from the crisis .Kennedy was also concerned that what the soviets might think of as a humiliation might result in Khruschevs removal. Kennedy decided to give Khruschev an honourable way out
@@jonathanfraser321 And we had been planning all along to take those missiles out of Turkey anyway as they were obsolete.
And Kruschev did get removed after all...
@@jonemeigh5588 True But he wasnt shot exiled to Siberia or stabbed by an assassin with an ice pick. Compared to what happened to previous soviet leaders he was practically given a golden handshake and a clock on his retirement
: "For being rich, free, and alive all at the same time."
Legendary.
The West Wing had some amazing characters on the show, and Lord John Marbury was at the top (or near enough to it).
RIP, Roger Rees. 1944-2015.
I have managed to be exceedingly stupid without the benefit of education at Cambridge and the Sarbonne! 🤤
But no diploma, therefore not eligible to work for the president!
@@TimoRutanen But Lord Marbury isn't working for the president either. He's Britain's Ambassador to the US.
@@mad_max21 Not at this point in time. He wasn't named ambassador until season 2, this was in season 1.
@@billwithers7457 I still don't think you can say he's working for the president, I think he's more of a voluntary consultant and go-between.
Same 😢
Marbury is amazing. This is still one of the best shows to ever hit TV
1:00. Robin Colcord checked Leo, "thank you for clearing that up, Leo. Having been educated at Cambridge and the Sorbonne, as you know, I am exceedingly stupid."
José Duarte it was Oxford
Actually, no John, he says Cambridge. José is correct.
I love that exchange
@@johnmoraites6020 Are you hearing impaired? Listen to it again and again until you stop failing.
Being educated at Cambridge and the Sorbonne didn't ultimately do Augustus Steranko much good due to, you know, basically being exceedingly stupid.
"I don't want this to be like Quid Pro Quo."
Wouldn't that have been nice to have in our own presidency...
Rest In Peace and Thank You for entertaining me and many others Roger. You won't be forgotten.
Lord John is the best character! What a riot and someone I want on my staff or a close advisor!
The WW was always so great at casting guest stars and recurring characters. Lord Marbury was one of the best and most colorful. Loved him always calling Leo, Gerald.
Fawne Brown
Lord John to CJ after she takes over as Chief of Staff: “Ah, you’re the new Gerald.”
CJ: “I suppose I am.”
@Carlo Cocciolo 😆 I'll have to remember to be more careful with my abbrev's!!😁
he called him Leo
wow !
That’s how we know it’s time to sit up and pay attention.
Lord John stole a line from Peter O'Toole's Henry II in "The Lion In Winter": "I've snapped and plotted all my life. There's no other way to be alive, king, and fifty all at once."
And, in later seasons, they quote it again. Evidently it is Bartlet's favorite film.
You could tell Bartlett was impressed by the reference.
Well, as Sam says in another episode "Good writers borrow from other writers; great writers steal from them outright."
Not the first time Sorkin quoted (or borrowed) from The Lion In Winter. Sorkin was a playwright before he was a screenwriter; he loves plays, and throws in references to other playwrights’ work quite a bit. But this was a particularly nice one.
For me this is still the best series ever made. Sorkin, crew and cast all brilliant!
Easy the best! I've rewatched it yearly since it went off air.
"By being rich free and alive all at the same time"... great line.
Basically stolen from "The Lion in Winter" - "alive, king, and fifty all at once"
A lot of people talk about all the great lines from Lord Marbury. One of my favorites is just the smooth way he says "Yes sir!" after Bartlett questions him about buying them off.
The first time I saw him..was in cheers...and it has been a wonderful journey of watching his performances...so sad he passed on... wonderful actor...
Oddly enough, this scene would turn out to be prophetic.
Absolutely brilliant dialogue.
Thank you for uploading this. I wanted to share this scene with someone, particularly about Marbury's carrot-and-stick metaphor and explanation of the price that's paid for peace or continued prosperity.
This is one of my favorite scenes of the series.
Don't we all miss the old times when talking and compromising with your enemies was statesmanship. Today it is called appeasement.
"Gerald!" God love Lord John Marbury...
Wish there was more of lord john.
Another example of the importance and difficulty of Charlie's job.
I absolutely love this scene.
Lord John Marbury made me want to be smarter. RIP.
Roger Rees is ine of my favorites. Gone too soon. 😞
God Roger's voice is music to my ears.
RIP!
“Being 50, King and alive at the same Time” Lion in Winter.
That payoff thing clearly solved the nuclear problem in North Korea
Love Roger Rees.
LOVED ROGER REES!!!!!
I miss show so much...Wow!!!
If I were president, this is who I would want as an ambassador/advisor. He's eccentric, but highly educated, knowledgeable and we'd get along quite well. I don't get along well with people who are too serious and dry.
As great as he is here, to me Roger Rees will always be the "villain" from Sylvester Stallone's "STOP! Or my mom will shoot!" ... a very unusual villain in a very unusual movie!
Great fun!
Marbury called him Leo!
He only seems to call him Gerald when not in front of the President, or if he is trying to make a strong point.
@@misterjoshua5720 No, John only calls him "Leo" when he's being completely serious. That's how you know you should pay attention.
The idea of an Indian war being solved by a drunk isn't entirely without foundation. The Sino-Indian war of 1962 was fought several time zones away from New Delihi and Beijing and several more from Washington and Moscow. According to the then American ambassador, J K Galbraith, this meant that the various diplomats were on call 24 hours a day. As a result most of them were on uppers to keep awake and downers to keep calm. The result was that many of the major players were zonked on drugs.
It's so funny that he can't take even a cup of coffee with the president of the United States without spicing it with liquor. He's the only one who drinks in the room and doesn't give a fuck about it.
Truly great scene
RIP Lord John
I'd have killed to see that meeting between the Indian ambassador and Lord John Marbury. I think it would've given an interesting look on how other countries talk to eachother about the actions of the US. kind of an "inside the looking glass" on the outsider's perspective.
Roger Rees was fantastic in Nicholas Nickleby I think it aired on PBS years ago.
I loved this character...
It’s the price you pay for being rich, free, and alive all at the same time.
1:34 reminds me of the quote "there's no other way to be alive, king, and fifty all at the same time" from A Lion In Winter...which is President Bartlett's favorite movie!
I was just about to say that. I never made the connection until I saw the quote today.
A great clip from a great show. Many thanks for te upload emmatude.
I liked the bit about G7 calling all it loans. It sounded as though President Bartlett was going down to the local County Court and sending a court baliff to sieze the Taj Mahal
Brilliant!
Lord John Marlbury can be amazingly wise!
This is brilliant and accurate.
I have this sense that this particular scene is speaking a lot of truth.
He’s Brilliant
"I know words, i have the best words." -this is what it's come to and yes i realize it was only a TV show but good grief we've lowered the bar.
That bar is now at the bottom of the Marianas Trench and is still burrowing toward the planet's core.
Bart Alder Damn. 😂
The bar wasn't lowered with Reagan? Johnson didn't swear and bully people? Clinton didn't go for a jog to McDonalds?
James Kessler It would be nice.
I see what you did there Charlie Brown
1:56 Leo: "What the actual fuck?!" :D
Also Leo at 1:08, after the zinger from Lord John which provided the title for this clip.
@1:01 absolute classic line.
RIP.
President who knows and uses the term 'quid pro quo'!
And pretends waiting a couple months to "buy" them makes it not quid pro quo.
@@falseprophet1024 It's about public perception, JFK did the same thing during the Cuban Missle crisis.
@@CraigBickerstaff
Ya, the public is dumb, so just wait a news cycle, and they aren't smart enough to see its still a quid pro quo..
This is like if trump called up Russia and asked them to help his campaign, but he wouldn't pay them for a few months. Its no longer a quid pro quo, because he delayed payment, right?
And the whole wait and make it seem like its not a quid pro quo, is just another example of an administration lying to the public..
Actually, the US currently owes India about £40 billion dollars. Today the real problem would be if India called in its loans.
fred karno
I believe you are confusing balance of trade with debt. Buying more goods from a country than are sold does make a trade deficit. It does not follow that this deficit has gone unpaid.
😂
I love his character. I, too, am quite fluent in sarcasm and am not one to mince words. In Sorkin's world, I think I could have fun spending some time with Lord Marbury. :-)
I think that’s the first time he called Leo by his name. Later on, he always called him Gerald. 😂
Gerald !!
Love His Lordship …
I swear I had a prof during my time at Cambridge that dressed and sounded just like Marbury. Cut from the same cloth, I suppose.
You have reminded me to sharpen my best scissors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I see what you did there. You're a smart guy.
This actually happened. India did retreat its development and US was was able be sure using satellite photos.
Only US didn’t know that India was still very much active in its development. They worked in the nights and kept the nuclear development site deserted in the day. And went through with the development program anyways. Back when the US and UK’s deep throating of political incompetence began and they kept siding with Pakistan and never believed India’s proof of Pakistan’s use US aid to fund terrorist activities.
Years later Tony Blair and Bush publicly regretted not believing in India and letting Pakistan become a cesspool for terrorist activities.
GERALD!
Old Sock!
Different episode, Dead Irish Writers, but great line by him!
1:15 Money well spent, am i right?!?
everybody needs to listen to the west wing thing podcast
If you like John, watch Mountains of the Moon for an early role towards the end of the film
And Margaret says... you are the father!
God rest, his soul
So much relevant truth in this conversation.
Timely, especially now... spring 2013...
Yes surrrr...
Lord John was a ledge
Genius.
RIP Roger Rees
I was proud of my education. It wasn't fancy but it was functional.
And no help from dark figures via rumours.
My Double Entry Bookkeeping tuition.
Licensed To Bill.
The Golden Rule should be "A fair portion for a fair price"
This completely gloss overs the part the British played in creation of India- Pakistan conflict. It also conveniently ignores how UK became 'Rich and Free' and projects like India is taking some kind of ransom from western countries where as US has also manipulated so many countries for own benefit. It's just a part of global politics.
Sir, please, you have to give these things (partition) some time.
Perhaps another decade or century or so.................................................................................................................................they will remain exactly as they are today.
Did India not have a computer industry before 1999?
This is a great scene, but unrealistic in the sense that Leo never would have questioned the strategy. A character of his intelligence damn well would have understood the implications of trying to avoid a war with nuclear weapons half way around the world.
Yeah, they go to war with each other, and the nuked cities start a very little Nuclear Winter, that stops the threat of Global Warning. Who cares about a few hundred million virgins in Islamic heaven and maybe about that many kicked into their next turn on the wheel?
not really. . The purpose of having a west wing staff is to put alternative policies and views.Even Adolf allowed officers to question and propose alternative strategies. Its the president's job to decide.Leo's job is to ensure that when the president's made his decision, it happens.
classy guy
This standoff actually did happen
See : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001%E2%80%9302_India%E2%80%93Pakistan_standoff
God knows.
That was then, this is now.
2024.....my how things change.
0:35 wow dude...
This man makes me proud to be british. Even if he’s a different type of british than I
That type of British is an exceedingly rare club.
@@Elthenar I just meant English
But yes, you’re right…..he’s a rarity among English people too (unfortunately, as my country is their only neighbour, principalities don’t count, sorry)
@@jimmy2k4o I just meant that he is literally what remains of the British nobility. He's part of an aristocratic class that is quite rare these days.Then add in high over the top personality, premium education and razor sharp wit and you have a very singular man.
@oarfrost Can't say it surprises me in the least - around the discussion tables, very little is actually achieved, it's afterwards when they all retire for drinks that the real business gets done.
1:15
Who cut off the money?!?
1:02 Marbury gets Leo's name right. First time? Only time?
When it was crunch time, Lord John dropped the drunken buffoon act and got down to it like the legend he was.