I enjoy the DKOldies shorts too, the issue is they claim to refurbish the products but send out consoles that haven't been touched/cleaned. So then the question becomes why the premium price if they are just flipping these products without doing what they claim to do to them?
Easy answer. The larger casual gaming audience that DKOldies appeals to does not care about getting the cleanest looking console, so long as it works. I imagine only a small amount of DKOldies customers are dissatisfied with their purchases overall.
The thing that you have left out is that they have videos highlighting how they clean and refurbish game units and then they seem to ship out the nastiest looking units to people. That makes what they are doing that much worse.
If I paid more money for a consul than what it was worth on release and they never cleaned it or refurbished it i’d be upset too because that’s what they do they only show a few so they look good but they don’t actually do it all of them like I actually bought four games from them and one of them wasn’t working it loaded up but it soon as I got to the press start menu nothing happened and it froze I complain to them and they said when they tested the game it worked fine so it must be a problem with my Console in recommend me to buy a new one from them
@@TheInfectiousCadaver I think some of you are being paid to make things up about dkoldies. It seems like there is a trend of random ppl talking nonsense. Is gamestop paying you guys. Lol
The biggest issue is even those base prices you see are not with original controllers. I believe Jacob's video showed them giving him a non-BC compatible cheap PS3 controller with a BC console. It's a slap in the face to pay 2x ebay prices and get generic garbage paired with a dirty console.
Which going by their site. everything is on sale 24. Never seems to change, no matter how many video I see or if I got there personally myself. Which I think is against certain laws at least in the us. To trick people into getting a deal, when they are not.
Facts you can't call a system refurbish or clean if it's still dirty on the inside. the funny thing is they want to put a Dk Oldies sticker on top of the screw hoping you wont open it
I think DK Oldies is fine to charge what they want, it's their business. If you don't wait to pay their prices, then don't. However I do feel companies like DK and Gamestop use the "refurbished" term too loosely.
The prices would be somewhat justifiable if they sent their customer pristine condition consoles. The issue is less with the price on its own and more to do with that they are charging absurd prices for consoles that looks like they came off a salvation army shelf.
Okay but the problem extends past that. It's not simply "who cares it doesn't affect you if you don't buy from them." Bro DKOldies selling shit at these prices creates a domino effect on resellers that see the stuff being sold, and in turn they sell games at those prices as well. It brings all game prices up in the retro market.
I watched both of Rich at Review Tech videos and just wow. I bought a PS2 for $50 at a thrift store here last year that was in better shape then one that was supposed to be completely refurbished. To me DK is charging a premium price for their consoles and not following through with what they say they've done to the consoles.
I recall Jacob r video on the ps4 he brought from them. It was full of dust on the inside and clearly was not refurbished. Which I would say, seems very reasonable why people are upset. Order a console that is meant to be all nice and clean up, to look polish like new. Only to get a product that has a far higher price, with the same care given to it as some guy who kept it lock up in a dark corner of the room, to gather dust like many Wii's after people stopped playing with them.
I think Rich even said it, that it was obvious that they were taking canned air to the vents to blow the air off of them, which then of course blows it back into the console.
I find Amazon wholesalers way worse and I appreciate that you hustle and make the business the way you do. Heck businesses like double jump games do similar stuff and prices are not over inflated. I’m guessing the over inflated prices on Amazon is because of fees and stuff from Amazon. I’m kind of shocked though at this point of how you do things you don’t have your TH-cam point to your own market place and sell online for less money to not rip off customers. Just a thought. I know Joey and I was at the warehouse yesterday, the whole staff there is very nice and friendly and heck I got recognized for my TH-cam channel today which never happens . I personally feel the biggest issue is how the website is constructed, it’s not consumer friendly. I made a video yesterday on mega man 6, it says on pricecharting that it’s worth $60, I search on dk oldies and it says it sells for $65 (not too bad but then you click on it to add to cart and the price is $85!!!). Basically the previous page only showed the cosmically flawed price and not the good condition until you click on the item. I went to Lukie games and the price was $52 so go figure. I have seen other video content in regards to hardware and talked with DK Oldies lead refurb guy and they are backlogged refurbing machines. There has been a lot of additional employees with all the growth, they added 2 good size retail store fronts in the area that they use for the warehouse and it’s been expanding because of the pandemic. Add in social media and they have exploded. They are working on cleaning better and acknowledge that they were not putting thermal paste on the chips but they were also not taking those apart to even look at that. They were only cleaning and making sure the systems functioned which doesn’t require thermal paste. I actually agree with that . I don’t agree with dk oldies sticking people with cheap power plugs when paying a premium for systems.
I think the only reason why they're relevant is because of the amazing work Joey and his team have done. But Joey doesn't control the prices, he only does what he was paid to do: marketing their product
Hold up I don't come over to the renix sale channel. You mean to tell me Phoenix Resale be on some shady shit 👀. Let me know cause I don't want to support someone that's on some shit. I don't buy from him but his other channel gives off the impression that he's a reasonable seller and not up to nothing.
Always funny looking at these prices from an Australian perspective. A Wii in a Australia is very cheap, only worth about $25 USD. However, an N64 with the 2 controllers is around $180 USD making DKOldies around retail. Very strange how different the market is.
I assumed the prices were high because they have a year warranty and a big selection. If you look at their non Nintendo stuff it’s way closer to reality
It's not just the fact that they are charging premium prices, that's a common business practice. What's scummy is that they lie about refurbishing their products, deceiving the costumers in the process. Even disregarding the prices, the fact is that they lie about what they sell, and people are calling them out for it.
To me, DK Oldies should sell items in very good condition. They preach that on their shorts, show the cleaning, etc. So they owe it to customers to send a premium product they advertise. If you list on Amazon as very good condition, it better be clean.
DKOldies appeals to the larger casual gaming audience. Their Shorts consist of topics like "PS2 Controllers can be used on PS1!" and "Did you know you can turn the PS symbol on a PS2!?". The larger casual gaming audience doesn't spend time researching prices, they just want a quick hit of nostalgia and so they buy from what they feel is a trusted source: DKOldies. Also, the larger casual gaming audience probably doesn't care if they receive a slightly dirty or discolored item, as long as it works they're happy. So really, blame that audience (and mayyyyybe blame DKOldies for taking advantage of it? idk, is it really taking advantage if those customers are happy?)
@@MemeSource. there's so many videos about them already that I probably wouldn't be adding much. A more interesting video to make would be something like "Time/Cost Evaluation" and how it relates to Video Game Collecting.
Everyone seems to leave out their warranty and return policy. 1 year warranty, 100% replacement for broken or defective items. This is included in the price which probably accounts for some of the increased cost. Not sure many of these other sellers offering the same.
Legit sites like eStarland and JJGames are great and need more recognition. DK Oldies overprices their Nintendo stuff for sure, but some of their Sega stuff for example is fairly priced.
I sold to DK Oldies a GRIP of NES games almost 10 years ago. It was such an easy process and pleasant experience and they offered me top dollar! I was able to get my PS4 and a couple of games because of this. Honestly, I will forever like them for that experience!
the market is unfortunately very different nowadays than it was 10 years ago and I guess they decided to take advantage of it through false advertising and garbage prices. Hell i remember buying some SNES games from them about 8 years ago and didn't have any problems. It's off putting to see what they are now.
@@averylangs it’s literally just because they blew up though, they were a relatively small company and now with all the exposure they’re trying to complete and keep up with demand they prices will level out soon as they grow now if in a year or so the prices are the same that’s 100% on them
What u don’t realise is all dk oldies consoles come with third party controllers u have to pay extra for the genuine ones Also dk oldies split everything up they separate it all in different boxes. For example the consoles go in one box controllers in another the cables in two separate boxes so u never get the original stuff that came with the console u buy as it’s randomly picked
Go buy a "refurbished, cleaned and tested" console from DK Oldies. Once you get it in, take it apart and see why they're getting called out. That so called "warranty sticker" is just slapped on a screw hole and called good. I bought a Xbox 360 from DK Oldies several years ago and after a couple days it was acting up. So I took it apart and seen an extremely dirty console. The outside view of the console is cleaned but interior is where the trash is cause for their "cleaning" process is just an air can to spray dirt back into the console.
I don't agree with what their doing. Selling things for way more than what you pay elsewhere. They claim refurbished and don't even check to see if it's working at all. Bad business
I think your last point is crucial and really love it from a business point of view. Fair enough I haven’t brought from them but to have 1M subscribers and be at that base as a business they have to be there for a reason. So you could probably say 80/20 their product is probably good at that price. And if not they give u a warranty sticker and you can always send it back immediately 🤷♂️
I've purchased 4x large box only auction collections of super nintendo - very happy to buy the boxes in BULK included some HEAVY hitters (chrono trigger etc) for essential yard sale prices. Helps me work towards my goal of all 721 snes games cib so buyer experience only on ebay was 10/10 would i buy from their website - nope
I have had nothing but good experiences with DK Olides. One time they sent a bad cart and immediatley sent a replacement. People can bash them if they want. Just more for me to choose form if they go somewhere else.
The issue is mainly the level of "above it all" attitude they have. Like they charge way too much, but an item is worth what people pay. So if someone wants to pay twice as much for an xbox one as they could get one from gamestop or other smaller stores, then let them. But they don't refurbish products (personal experience, having a dualshock 2 be completely broken and caked on dust on the outside and inside). It makes it feel like they just use the money to make tiktok videos and not actually sell a good product. They also give crap money in trade in, but thats for another time.
dude I just sold a wii for 85! These prices are not bad! Maybe the ps2... BUUUUT.. I always make above market!! who cares?!?! If they dont like your price go somewhere else! Ive had people say they buy from me over others merely because of reviews.. I thought people were roasting a little too extreme. Of course Maybe I am just too unfamiliar with their care of product? Maybe packaging is bad too? Who knows..
I think a point that people rairly point out is that DKO also sells on Ebay at prices cheeper then there own website. They also "allegedly" run a few alternate accounts that are bots that auto buy underpriced popular games like Pokemon, Mega Man, consoles.
There is no way they sell the same exact item cheaper on ebay. Literally no reason to do that. You may have found a cheaper console they listed on ebay than on their website, but I doubt it's the same exact console. There would be no reason to sell cheaper on ebay when they take 10-15% of every sale and it falls under a different tax category for businesses.
The prices they show on the screen you are in are not the actual prices. That is the lowest price available, which is for a "Cosmetically flawed" version of the item and in the case of the system it is with second party controllers and cords. The picture show first party controllers though.
The problem is the prices is outrageous when they dont even clean and refurbish them. If you paid top dollar and got top cleaned console this would not be a problem. Paying $400 for a BC PS3 and its filthy and doesnt come with official Sony DualShock 3 thats a scam IMO.
This guys store is 20 minutes away from me, but they dont do walk ins. And when they say refurbished on the site people are assuming it was refurbished. Sadly that doesnt seem to be the case
I like their videos. It’s entertaining. I probably wouldn’t purchase anything from them because of their prices but there are some that are reasonably priced.
If you live in the area of dk oldies store is it a walk in type of store or just online stuff? My guess is the ones they "clean" and "refurbish" are probably the ones they sell to their local people? Or displays? Or do they just shaft anybody?
Just high prices doesn't really get people to pissed off as much. Just look at said scalping. People hate scalper but not enough to being the kind of hate DKOldies get.
PriceCharting is a bad metric anyways. It's way too low. 1. It only aggregates eBay which by definition includes snipes or limited availability windows that limit the full realization of value. 2. It doesn't consider shipping. *_At. All._* If about half of ebay sellers bake in their shipping and half don't, then PriceCharting will naturally be underpriced by about $2-4 shipped. 3. It misflags items. It's not perfect. You'll have items missing the manual seeding into the complete price, manuals or merch sometimes seeds in. Box only. Sometimes it's the other way around and a complete copy or new copy seeds into loose. 4. It's an *_AVERAGE_* for the last 30 days. If it averages $10 for Pitfall, then for every $15 Pitfall there's a poop stained pee-smelling copy that doesn't work for $5. Or two borked copies per $20 passable copy. It's not that simple. PriceCharting has to be taken with a massive grain of salt. That's not even considering prices fluctuate +/- 20-30% every month. Lol. Look at Pitfall for the 2600. Are we in a $7.50 month or a $15 month? *_You don't price stuff at the aggregate market value of eBay. You price stuff at the peak price, then add shipping._* That's not scalping, that's just not being an idiot. 😂
I enjoy y’all videos but that’s where I draw the line I’d never purchase anything from dk or you or any reseller when I know for a fact I can get it at a much more reasonable price. There’s many other options out there just research and spend your hard earned money as wisely as you possibly can
One thing interesting is that the people putting out these videos also have their own online stores or ebay, whatnot etc, with "cheaper cleaner etc etc" the prices which is often a little sus to me. You can get them cheaper elsewhere but DK do offer returns for like a year and they have employees and a larger stock, I wouldn't buy from them but I also understand why the prices are inflated a little bit, literally with anything you can probably get things cheaper if you look for them but they have the stock and it all in one place i guess idk, if you don't like their prices or product then don't buy them, but I think calling them a scam is a stretch
And all of the prices that pop up in search are usually the cosmetically flawed for consoles or incomplete for games. You can't even get 1st party controllers for their silly prices like that PS2 slim for $200+. It's another premium just to get Sony controllers.
Gamers hated GameStop because they would rip you off when exchanging games or trading in games And gamers hate DK oldies is because they rip you off regardless if you’re buying a game or trading a game in I don’t even think he has a game crate thing it’s just give us your games and we’ll sell them for five times their value I actually think I saw a social media post from one of their employees or him asking people to send them games that they don’t want not asking to buy them asking for unwanted games so they could sell them
Comparing the prices that you do with DKOldies is really not…like… idk..they pay lots of employees and shit, also, do you give 1 years of warranty?! But the quality should be a solid 9/10 minimum for the price.
Honestly, I expected nothing less from this dingleberry. Phoenix Resell and DK Oldies is a match made in heaven. I hope yall enjoy touching tips together for many more years!!!
They charge extra for original controllers, otherwise you get given a 3rd party. You would expect at those prices, theyd give you a complete package. Though if people are buying these, then of course the prices will stay the way they are.
DKOldies are actually smart about it… they’re receiving negative feedback about their price and quality and people are still buying large amounts of stuff from them just to get views
the pricing is fine, but for them to claim "refurbished" while do nearly nothing to the system is kind of like stealing money from unsophisticated consumers. If they sold these items in "used" condition instead of "refurbished" condition, I don't think they'd have any PR issues at all. They want the markup, but refuse to do the work and in turn people are getting scammed whether knowingly or not.
Respect? He didn't even clear up anything for them he can't defend them literally admitted to doing the same thing that they do so there's like no point to doing the video other than him just trying to get views he didn't add to why we shouldn't stop looking at him and DK oldies in the same light
@@switchlite44 he doesn't refurbish or claim to refurbish consoles. People will gladly bend over and let GameStop and DKOldies fuck them with price but love to hate on people like Phoenix Resale lol
You said you don’t have a problem with it if they provide good quality… but they don’t. Also what about customers who don’t know any better and have no knowledge or experience with pricing for old games? They reel people in with their nice persona and silly little shorts on youtube and then steamroll you for all your cash. They are as fake as it comes. Not to mention if what they were doing wasn’t wrong… they’d address it and change. They do not care even after all the feedback. They tried to justify the costs in a video once and it literally gave no further info and made no sense. They are purposely avoiding addressing it bc they know they have NOTHING.
I've always been a fan of them. Only ordered one console. It was a discounted gamecube bc gamecubes are hard to find in my city. Found controllers and cords for them easily and cheap. The console didn't have a speck of dust in it. I've ordered dozens of Xbox 360 games from them. They all show up fast and in perfect condition. They have decent deals on most 360 games plus they are under warranty for 4 months. Honestly if you are a savy shopper and stay away from the most popular stuff then they are a great company to buy from.
What is the difference between a video game reseller in a scalper because I understand if you’re reselling your own video games or whatever but if you’re only purpose is to bike video games to sell them for five times their value aren’t you just a scalper because all video games are just like movie tickets or new consuls there’s a limited amount of them in circulation and by reselling them drives up the inherent value it’s just like building a road for more even though you could do it for cheaper you do it for more because you can make more money because you made it cost more. This more money is going to bite us in the ass reselling it is good to go with inflation but when something that cost $25.10 years ago is now being sold for 50 you know there’s a fucking issue
I think fans and the general public have way too high of expectations for these types of things. I mean theee games and systems are nearly 30-35 years old now it’s not going to be perfect.
Couldn't speak for consoles but I have bought several games and a couple accessories from DKO they all function somewhat but every single piece I've purchased was very dirty And needed intensive cleaning On their website typically there are two options for condition when you list something as good condition but the buyer receives items with mystery stains its quite frustrating I bought some nes cartridge protectors from them and they had crusted on food stains it was gross Also several nes cartridges that had dirt and dust on the casing and the contacts were either dirty rusty or missing pins I think the main gripe is false advertisement I don't mind paying a premium for premium products but dko sells bullshit
They use fed ex and file damage claims which allows them to get paid twice while telling the sellers there items are damaged and they will have to take it of there pay
The part that I don't like is when Joey shows up at your house, clears your browser history and forces you to make a purchase from their website. Its such a scam.
I meen they're selling cosmetically flawed ps3's for like 400$ and they're also giving people third party controllers. People are taking apart the consoles and are finding that they're not refurbished in any way. So one they're selling the products way above market price and two they're lying because they're obviously not opening all the consoles and cleaning them. I watched in video by Jacob r and he baught a ps3 from them and when he opened it, it was a disaster of dust and dirt. It was honestly horrendous how bad it was. I'm just saying if you're selling a product for almost double what it's worth, they should atleast be cleaning them and not just saying they're doing it.
Honestly as a reseller I do care for what I sell even if the item is used I give it some care by cleaning it, keeping it clean from scratches as much as I can compare to his store where you can notice they just seem to throw things on a box or some items that notice that have a glass screen I would keep them more organized. I try to keep everything I sale scratch less instead of just in piles like a junkyard.
I actually bought a bunch of games from them and out of four of them one didn’t work and when I complain to ask to send it for exchange they said it worked in testing so there’s nothing wrong with the game it must be my consul is the issue and recommend me to buy a new one from them like the game did load up it did the titles and everything but once you got to the press start it froze not my consul just the game because I could go back to the menu but the game froze I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re selling broken games to trick people into buying new consuls thinking their consuls are broken
I enjoy the DKOldies shorts too, the issue is they claim to refurbish the products but send out consoles that haven't been touched/cleaned. So then the question becomes why the premium price if they are just flipping these products without doing what they claim to do to them?
U just hit the nail in the coffin... opening up a console to clean it out is not gonna take that long
That $400 price tag for ps3 console is a questionable item.
Easy answer. The larger casual gaming audience that DKOldies appeals to does not care about getting the cleanest looking console, so long as it works. I imagine only a small amount of DKOldies customers are dissatisfied with their purchases overall.
@@Snivy102 the problem is, they don't even test to see if the console works
The thing that you have left out is that they have videos highlighting how they clean and refurbish game units and then they seem to ship out the nastiest looking units to people. That makes what they are doing that much worse.
If I paid more money for a consul than what it was worth on release and they never cleaned it or refurbished it i’d be upset too because that’s what they do they only show a few so they look good but they don’t actually do it all of them like I actually bought four games from them and one of them wasn’t working it loaded up but it soon as I got to the press start menu nothing happened and it froze I complain to them and they said when they tested the game it worked fine so it must be a problem with my Console in recommend me to buy a new one from them
so he was paid to defend them? awesome. another youtuber ill report block and i do hope doesnt come back.
@@TheInfectiousCadaver No he wasn't paid to defend them wtf you on about he has made a video exposing them
A local game store will 9 out of 10 times give you a unit that looks like its been at the bottom of a toybox.
@@TheInfectiousCadaver
I think some of you are being paid to make things up about dkoldies.
It seems like there is a trend of random ppl talking nonsense.
Is gamestop paying you guys. Lol
The biggest issue is even those base prices you see are not with original controllers. I believe Jacob's video showed them giving him a non-BC compatible cheap PS3 controller with a BC console. It's a slap in the face to pay 2x ebay prices and get generic garbage paired with a dirty console.
They're charging ps5 prices for a ps3 smh
And it looked like it had been with a smoker for 30 years.
Anyone over twelve would know what al carte means
Which going by their site. everything is on sale 24. Never seems to change, no matter how many video I see or if I got there personally myself. Which I think is against certain laws at least in the us. To trick people into getting a deal, when they are not.
Facts you can't call a system refurbish or clean if it's still dirty on the inside. the funny thing is they want to put a Dk Oldies sticker on top of the screw hoping you wont open it
You know shits crazy when a reseller is calling out another reseller
It’s business when you can find it yourself , anyone can do it there is a market but oldies is definitely shady about their sales pitch
You know it’s bad when someone already resells retro video games for profit is calling you out 😂😅
I think DK Oldies is fine to charge what they want, it's their business. If you don't wait to pay their prices, then don't. However I do feel companies like DK and Gamestop use the "refurbished" term too loosely.
The prices would be somewhat justifiable if they sent their customer pristine condition consoles. The issue is less with the price on its own and more to do with that they are charging absurd prices for consoles that looks like they came off a salvation army shelf.
@@gustavoventurinfr, and they call it “refurbished” when all they do is wipe off the outside.
They use there TH-cam channel to entice the viewers and then scam them that is a scumbag
Okay but the problem extends past that. It's not simply "who cares it doesn't affect you if you don't buy from them." Bro DKOldies selling shit at these prices creates a domino effect on resellers that see the stuff being sold, and in turn they sell games at those prices as well. It brings all game prices up in the retro market.
That was sweet of your wife to let you wear her glasses.
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I was thinking the same or it was his grandmas
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I watched both of Rich at Review Tech videos and just wow. I bought a PS2 for $50 at a thrift store here last year that was in better shape then one that was supposed to be completely refurbished. To me DK is charging a premium price for their consoles and not following through with what they say they've done to the consoles.
I recall Jacob r video on the ps4 he brought from them. It was full of dust on the inside and clearly was not refurbished. Which I would say, seems very reasonable why people are upset. Order a console that is meant to be all nice and clean up, to look polish like new. Only to get a product that has a far higher price, with the same care given to it as some guy who kept it lock up in a dark corner of the room, to gather dust like many Wii's after people stopped playing with them.
@@upvoter8798 especially when they say the systems will be refurbished
I think Rich even said it, that it was obvious that they were taking canned air to the vents to blow the air off of them, which then of course blows it back into the console.
The problem with DK is that they are not backing up their prices with their quality.
I find Amazon wholesalers way worse and I appreciate that you hustle and make the business the way you do. Heck businesses like double jump games do similar stuff and prices are not over inflated. I’m guessing the over inflated prices on Amazon is because of fees and stuff from Amazon. I’m kind of shocked though at this point of how you do things you don’t have your TH-cam point to your own market place and sell online for less money to not rip off customers. Just a thought. I know Joey and I was at the warehouse yesterday, the whole staff there is very nice and friendly and heck I got recognized for my TH-cam channel today which never happens . I personally feel the biggest issue is how the website is constructed, it’s not consumer friendly. I made a video yesterday on mega man 6, it says on pricecharting that it’s worth $60, I search on dk oldies and it says it sells for $65 (not too bad but then you click on it to add to cart and the price is $85!!!). Basically the previous page only showed the cosmically flawed price and not the good condition until you click on the item. I went to Lukie games and the price was $52 so go figure. I have seen other video content in regards to hardware and talked with DK Oldies lead refurb guy and they are backlogged refurbing machines. There has been a lot of additional employees with all the growth, they added 2 good size retail store fronts in the area that they use for the warehouse and it’s been expanding because of the pandemic. Add in social media and they have exploded. They are working on cleaning better and acknowledge that they were not putting thermal paste on the chips but they were also not taking those apart to even look at that. They were only cleaning and making sure the systems functioned which doesn’t require thermal paste. I actually agree with that . I don’t agree with dk oldies sticking people with cheap power plugs when paying a premium for systems.
I think the only reason why they're relevant is because of the amazing work Joey and his team have done. But Joey doesn't control the prices, he only does what he was paid to do: marketing their product
And outright lying for them
We’re in the twilight zone if this guy is calling out scammers.
F this dude too
I know, right? 😂 "How dare they charge crazy prices!"....*lists another product on Amazon above Pricecharting average price" lol
Guy talks selling on eBay but he never does his eBay page never added anything in months
Hold up I don't come over to the renix sale channel. You mean to tell me Phoenix Resale be on some shady shit 👀. Let me know cause I don't want to support someone that's on some shit. I don't buy from him but his other channel gives off the impression that he's a reasonable seller and not up to nothing.
@@Sneed-tb4ge oh shit
You know it's bad when Phoenix Resale is calling people out for price gouging lol
Always funny looking at these prices from an Australian perspective. A Wii in a Australia is very cheap, only worth about $25 USD. However, an N64 with the 2 controllers is around $180 USD making DKOldies around retail. Very strange how different the market is.
I assumed the prices were high because they have a year warranty and a big selection. If you look at their non Nintendo stuff it’s way closer to reality
It's not just the fact that they are charging premium prices, that's a common business practice. What's scummy is that they lie about refurbishing their products, deceiving the costumers in the process. Even disregarding the prices, the fact is that they lie about what they sell, and people are calling them out for it.
To me, DK Oldies should sell items in very good condition. They preach that on their shorts, show the cleaning, etc. So they owe it to customers to send a premium product they advertise.
If you list on Amazon as very good condition, it better be clean.
It better be more than clean lmao, “refurbished” means it will work like new, but they don’t even clean the consoles
DKOldies appeals to the larger casual gaming audience. Their Shorts consist of topics like "PS2 Controllers can be used on PS1!" and "Did you know you can turn the PS symbol on a PS2!?". The larger casual gaming audience doesn't spend time researching prices, they just want a quick hit of nostalgia and so they buy from what they feel is a trusted source: DKOldies. Also, the larger casual gaming audience probably doesn't care if they receive a slightly dirty or discolored item, as long as it works they're happy. So really, blame that audience (and mayyyyybe blame DKOldies for taking advantage of it? idk, is it really taking advantage if those customers are happy?)
Yoooo it's the guy who made a video about Pokémon game prices. Dk oldies vid when?
@@MemeSource. there's so many videos about them already that I probably wouldn't be adding much. A more interesting video to make would be something like "Time/Cost Evaluation" and how it relates to Video Game Collecting.
@@Snivy102 do it.
@@Snivy102 you haven't uploaded in a while.
“I’m a scumbag reseller” hardest line of this video 😂💪🏼
Nah I think the best line he said was that he gets laid 🤣
@@peepers30008 😂💀
I think the reason people are so obsessed is because those shorts are extremely satisfying and everyone was watching them
Everyone seems to leave out their warranty and return policy. 1 year warranty, 100% replacement for broken or defective items.
This is included in the price which probably accounts for some of the increased cost.
Not sure many of these other sellers offering the same.
Legit sites like eStarland and JJGames are great and need more recognition. DK Oldies overprices their Nintendo stuff for sure, but some of their Sega stuff for example is fairly priced.
They do pay out pretty well. People should look at their website buy list and the prices they pay from time to time.
If you give complete games. Dinging somebody 25% on GBA or 3DS games is silly.
@@rp71284 that's still better then what phenix or retro rick pays. Just saying
I sold to DK Oldies a GRIP of NES games almost 10 years ago. It was such an easy process and pleasant experience and they offered me top dollar! I was able to get my PS4 and a couple of games because of this. Honestly, I will forever like them for that experience!
the market is unfortunately very different nowadays than it was 10 years ago and I guess they decided to take advantage of it through false advertising and garbage prices. Hell i remember buying some SNES games from them about 8 years ago and didn't have any problems. It's off putting to see what they are now.
@@averylangs that is really unfortunate. I hate it when organizations take advantage of their customers!
They were probably still up to the same stuff then, as they are now. Only difference is everything is online and social media spreads the word
@@averylangs it’s literally just because they blew up though, they were a relatively small company and now with all the exposure they’re trying to complete and keep up with demand they prices will level out soon as they grow now if in a year or so the prices are the same that’s 100% on them
Love the Press Publish hat! Colin & Samir are the best.
What u don’t realise is all dk oldies consoles come with third party controllers u have to pay extra for the genuine ones
Also dk oldies split everything up they separate it all in different boxes. For example the consoles go in one box controllers in another the cables in two separate boxes so u never get the original stuff that came with the console u buy as it’s randomly picked
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i like how he is thinking about them sending thing CIB when its all loose and third party
Go buy a "refurbished, cleaned and tested" console from DK Oldies. Once you get it in, take it apart and see why they're getting called out. That so called "warranty sticker" is just slapped on a screw hole and called good.
I bought a Xbox 360 from DK Oldies several years ago and after a couple days it was acting up. So I took it apart and seen an extremely dirty console. The outside view of the console is cleaned but interior is where the trash is cause for their "cleaning" process is just an air can to spray dirt back into the console.
I don't agree with what their doing. Selling things for way more than what you pay elsewhere. They claim refurbished and don't even check to see if it's working at all. Bad business
Don't pay their price then?
Renix are we doing a shelf tour? Did I miss that video if it exists?
0:13 - Ohhh look! The 5th search results of DKoldies! That's my video there xD Dang!!
I think your last point is crucial and really love it from a business point of view. Fair enough I haven’t brought from them but to have 1M subscribers and be at that base as a business they have to be there for a reason. So you could probably say 80/20 their product is probably good at that price. And if not they give u a warranty sticker and you can always send it back immediately 🤷♂️
Then why are they committing fraud
Basically, their quality control has been passed onto the consumer through refunds.
The other problem is that they charge that much and don’t even give u the original controllers
I've purchased 4x large box only auction collections of super nintendo - very happy to buy the boxes in BULK included some HEAVY hitters (chrono trigger etc) for essential yard sale prices. Helps me work towards my goal of all 721 snes games cib
so buyer experience only on ebay was 10/10
would i buy from their website - nope
I have had nothing but good experiences with DK Olides. One time they sent a bad cart and immediatley sent a replacement. People can bash them if they want. Just more for me to choose form if they go somewhere else.
The issue is mainly the level of "above it all" attitude they have. Like they charge way too much, but an item is worth what people pay. So if someone wants to pay twice as much for an xbox one as they could get one from gamestop or other smaller stores, then let them. But they don't refurbish products (personal experience, having a dualshock 2 be completely broken and caked on dust on the outside and inside). It makes it feel like they just use the money to make tiktok videos and not actually sell a good product.
They also give crap money in trade in, but thats for another time.
I’m completely new to your channel, but I must confess I really like the room that you’re doing the filming in
dude I just sold a wii for 85! These prices are not bad! Maybe the ps2... BUUUUT.. I always make above market!! who cares?!?! If they dont like your price go somewhere else! Ive had people say they buy from me over others merely because of reviews.. I thought people were roasting a little too extreme. Of course Maybe I am just too unfamiliar with their care of product? Maybe packaging is bad too? Who knows..
They do make some entertaining shorts lol
But saying it certified refurbished when it not is why people are saying this and bringing that up you’re defending them for your own sake smh
I think a point that people rairly point out is that DKO also sells on Ebay at prices cheeper then there own website. They also "allegedly" run a few alternate accounts that are bots that auto buy underpriced popular games like Pokemon, Mega Man, consoles.
There is no way they sell the same exact item cheaper on ebay. Literally no reason to do that. You may have found a cheaper console they listed on ebay than on their website, but I doubt it's the same exact console. There would be no reason to sell cheaper on ebay when they take 10-15% of every sale and it falls under a different tax category for businesses.
They are using the donkey logo as their own did anyone else notice that
If you don’t think DKOldies is a scam, then you already got scammed.
Dk oldies must of lowered their prices after seeing all the videos about them because they were higher a week ago
The prices they show on the screen you are in are not the actual prices. That is the lowest price available, which is for a "Cosmetically flawed" version of the item and in the case of the system it is with second party controllers and cords. The picture show first party controllers though.
The problem is the prices is outrageous when they dont even clean and refurbish them. If you paid top dollar and got top cleaned console this would not be a problem. Paying $400 for a BC PS3 and its filthy and doesnt come with official Sony DualShock 3 thats a scam IMO.
Click on one of the items. They don’t include the original controllers so you have to pay more than what the price is listed at. Ridiculous
This guys store is 20 minutes away from me, but they dont do walk ins. And when they say refurbished on the site people are assuming it was refurbished. Sadly that doesnt seem to be the case
I like their videos. It’s entertaining. I probably wouldn’t purchase anything from them because of their prices but there are some that are reasonably priced.
why someone will pay over priced stuff x2 x3 over prices there? tell me why????
Reseller calling out scam reselling store 😂 whats this world coming too?!
If you live in the area of dk oldies store is it a walk in type of store or just online stuff? My guess is the ones they "clean" and "refurbish" are probably the ones they sell to their local people? Or displays? Or do they just shaft anybody?
That mustache is looking FIERCE my friend!
Just high prices doesn't really get people to pissed off as much. Just look at said scalping. People hate scalper but not enough to being the kind of hate DKOldies get.
One thing that this also overlooks is all these prices are before shipping because DK all this is not offer free shipping
Lol this is like the spider man meme 😂 Phoenix resale calling someone a scam 🤦♂️
PriceCharting is a bad metric anyways. It's way too low.
1. It only aggregates eBay which by definition includes snipes or limited availability windows that limit the full realization of value.
2. It doesn't consider shipping. *_At. All._* If about half of ebay sellers bake in their shipping and half don't, then PriceCharting will naturally be underpriced by about $2-4 shipped.
3. It misflags items. It's not perfect. You'll have items missing the manual seeding into the complete price, manuals or merch sometimes seeds in. Box only. Sometimes it's the other way around and a complete copy or new copy seeds into loose.
4. It's an *_AVERAGE_* for the last 30 days. If it averages $10 for Pitfall, then for every $15 Pitfall there's a poop stained pee-smelling copy that doesn't work for $5. Or two borked copies per $20 passable copy. It's not that simple.
PriceCharting has to be taken with a massive grain of salt. That's not even considering prices fluctuate +/- 20-30% every month. Lol. Look at Pitfall for the 2600. Are we in a $7.50 month or a $15 month?
*_You don't price stuff at the aggregate market value of eBay. You price stuff at the peak price, then add shipping._* That's not scalping, that's just not being an idiot. 😂
I enjoy y’all videos but that’s where I draw the line I’d never purchase anything from dk or you or any reseller when I know for a fact I can get it at a much more reasonable price. There’s many other options out there just research and spend your hard earned money as wisely as you possibly can
One thing interesting is that the people putting out these videos also have their own online stores or ebay, whatnot etc, with "cheaper cleaner etc etc" the prices which is often a little sus to me. You can get them cheaper elsewhere but DK do offer returns for like a year and they have employees and a larger stock, I wouldn't buy from them but I also understand why the prices are inflated a little bit, literally with anything you can probably get things cheaper if you look for them but they have the stock and it all in one place i guess idk, if you don't like their prices or product then don't buy them, but I think calling them a scam is a stretch
whos talking
Some of their prices are at matket prices but MOST of their products are almost twice as much as market value
And all of the prices that pop up in search are usually the cosmetically flawed for consoles or incomplete for games. You can't even get 1st party controllers for their silly prices like that PS2 slim for $200+. It's another premium just to get Sony controllers.
Gamers hated GameStop because they would rip you off when exchanging games or trading in games And gamers hate DK oldies is because they rip you off regardless if you’re buying a game or trading a game in I don’t even think he has a game crate thing it’s just give us your games and we’ll sell them for five times their value I actually think I saw a social media post from one of their employees or him asking people to send them games that they don’t want not asking to buy them asking for unwanted games so they could sell them
Comparing the prices that you do with DKOldies is really not…like… idk..they pay lots of employees and shit, also, do you give 1 years of warranty?! But the quality should be a solid 9/10 minimum for the price.
Does your light have a hoop on it?
Honestly, I expected nothing less from this dingleberry. Phoenix Resell and DK Oldies is a match made in heaven. I hope yall enjoy touching tips together for many more years!!!
The RGT85 is actually not bashing on them at all. He was just using clickbait, he talks about having positive interactions with them actually
They charge extra for original controllers, otherwise you get given a 3rd party. You would expect at those prices, theyd give you a complete package. Though if people are buying these, then of course the prices will stay the way they are.
not more of a scam then you are ill tell ya that for sure
How did this guy talk that long without saying anything
Who's the new guy with the peachfuzz
I love Joey
I found some great deals from DK in the psp and Dreamcast sections
DKOldies are actually smart about it… they’re receiving negative feedback about their price and quality and people are still buying large amounts of stuff from them just to get views
I live by and have been to d the dkoldies warehouse it's just a small business on the outside but it's a big operation on the inside
the pricing is fine, but for them to claim "refurbished" while do nearly nothing to the system is kind of like stealing money from unsophisticated consumers. If they sold these items in "used" condition instead of "refurbished" condition, I don't think they'd have any PR issues at all. They want the markup, but refuse to do the work and in turn people are getting scammed whether knowingly or not.
I bought the smaller PS1 with original controllers from Game X Change 2 1/2 years ago. It works like new.
its really ironic for you to be talking about dk oldies but major respect for doing it.
Respect? He didn't even clear up anything for them he can't defend them literally admitted to doing the same thing that they do so there's like no point to doing the video other than him just trying to get views he didn't add to why we shouldn't stop looking at him and DK oldies in the same light
@@switchlite44 he doesn't refurbish or claim to refurbish consoles. People will gladly bend over and let GameStop and DKOldies fuck them with price but love to hate on people like Phoenix Resale lol
Claiming you refurbish the items you are selling and you clearly don't is called false advertising.
You said you don’t have a problem with it if they provide good quality… but they don’t. Also what about customers who don’t know any better and have no knowledge or experience with pricing for old games?
They reel people in with their nice persona and silly little shorts on youtube and then steamroll you for all your cash.
They are as fake as it comes.
Not to mention if what they were doing wasn’t wrong… they’d address it and change. They do not care even after all the feedback. They tried to justify the costs in a video once and it literally gave no further info and made no sense. They are purposely avoiding addressing it bc they know they have NOTHING.
I've always been a fan of them. Only ordered one console. It was a discounted gamecube bc gamecubes are hard to find in my city. Found controllers and cords for them easily and cheap. The console didn't have a speck of dust in it. I've ordered dozens of Xbox 360 games from them. They all show up fast and in perfect condition. They have decent deals on most 360 games plus they are under warranty for 4 months. Honestly if you are a savy shopper and stay away from the most popular stuff then they are a great company to buy from.
This you Joey?
@@kylederksen2903 I ain't no ginger
@@Dazedgames4201 you're either color blind or Joey. Nice try joey
Yes it's a scam. Those prices are totally a scam. Taking advantage of old parents trying to buy nostalgic games or consoles.
i love how this turned into a whatnot ad at the end LUL
What is the difference between a video game reseller in a scalper because I understand if you’re reselling your own video games or whatever but if you’re only purpose is to bike video games to sell them for five times their value aren’t you just a scalper because all video games are just like movie tickets or new consuls there’s a limited amount of them in circulation and by reselling them drives up the inherent value it’s just like building a road for more even though you could do it for cheaper you do it for more because you can make more money because you made it cost more. This more money is going to bite us in the ass reselling it is good to go with inflation but when something that cost $25.10 years ago is now being sold for 50 you know there’s a fucking issue
I think fans and the general public have way too high of expectations for these types of things. I mean theee games and systems are nearly 30-35 years old now it’s not going to be perfect.
" *by my wife " - thank you for clarifying that.
glad big youtubers finally picked up on these clowns. They prey on idiots that overpay and don't know what "refurbished" actually means
Fun fact: Reonix real name is Eugenie.
Yea Eugenies are always greedy scumbags I have noticed that during my life never trust a Eugenie.
Couldn't speak for consoles but I have bought several games and a couple accessories from DKO they all function somewhat but every single piece I've purchased was very dirty
And needed intensive cleaning
On their website typically there are two options for condition when you list something as good condition but the buyer receives items with mystery stains its quite frustrating
I bought some nes cartridge protectors from them and they had crusted on food stains it was gross
Also several nes cartridges that had dirt and dust on the casing and the contacts were either dirty rusty or missing pins
I think the main gripe is false advertisement
I don't mind paying a premium for premium products but dko sells bullshit
They use fed ex and file damage claims which allows them to get paid twice while telling the sellers there items are damaged and they will have to take it of there pay
How can I find your listing on Amazon?
Retro Rick doesn’t want to buy things from them to sell in his store.
Free marketing for dkoldies
Never thought their would be someone worse than GameStop lol😂
The part that I don't like is when Joey shows up at your house, clears your browser history and forces you to make a purchase from their website. Its such a scam.
I meen they're selling cosmetically flawed ps3's for like 400$ and they're also giving people third party controllers. People are taking apart the consoles and are finding that they're not refurbished in any way. So one they're selling the products way above market price and two they're lying because they're obviously not opening all the consoles and cleaning them. I watched in video by Jacob r and he baught a ps3 from them and when he opened it, it was a disaster of dust and dirt. It was honestly horrendous how bad it was. I'm just saying if you're selling a product for almost double what it's worth, they should atleast be cleaning them and not just saying they're doing it.
I don’t see how you can give your 2 cents on a company or the condition of a system when you personally have never purchased an item from DKoldies.
Honestly as a reseller I do care for what I sell even if the item is used I give it some care by cleaning it, keeping it clean from scratches as much as I can compare to his store where you can notice they just seem to throw things on a box or some items that notice that have a glass screen I would keep them more organized. I try to keep everything I sale scratch less instead of just in piles like a junkyard.
I have bought around 30 items from them the price is higher than other places but everything come in good condition.
i don’t really think anyone hates them that much you have to remember most of it’s old stuff and he has a 1 year warranty on all of his stuff ???
I actually bought a bunch of games from them and out of four of them one didn’t work and when I complain to ask to send it for exchange they said it worked in testing so there’s nothing wrong with the game it must be my consul is the issue and recommend me to buy a new one from them like the game did load up it did the titles and everything but once you got to the press start it froze not my consul just the game because I could go back to the menu but the game froze I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re selling broken games to trick people into buying new consuls thinking their consuls are broken