Bike Fit Tip: This hand position might change your (riding) life

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  • @Kielan92
    @Kielan92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Im a completely newbie on bikes and thanks to your videos I get rid of the neck, lower back pain, and num wrists. Your videos are making the world a better place. I adjusted the saddle height and angle so now Im not suffering anymore.

  • @lastlavender5351
    @lastlavender5351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks very much. I was frustated my hand numb problem unsolved before. After so many experimental, I try to tilt the hood down but the numbness still occured, then I found the problem is the hood is not horizontally to the handle bar, then I correct the position of the hood by unscrew it and make it paralel to the handle bar. After I correct the position of hood, then I tilt it down just little, and the result is amazing. The numbness gone forever

  • @shmuelyosef1
    @shmuelyosef1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It would be useful to mention that rotating the bars also rotates the drops. The best way to set this up is to set the angle you want on the drops and then loosen upper bar tape and position the brifters to get a good ergonomic position.

  • @zumbaRdie
    @zumbaRdie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Good tip. I tried it and my neck pain after every ride are now gone. Thank you.

  • @paulbaker9064
    @paulbaker9064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exactly! The Selling bike shop completely missed this easy fit adjustment and others. Eventually paid a bike fitter to sort me out, simple, so much more comfort and other changes added to smoother power output! I'm 65 and been riding since forever, lol. Nice Work!

  • @michaelmcfadden4397
    @michaelmcfadden4397 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I moved the hoods on my road bike up after the revelation of buying a CX bike which came with a high hood position and the difference to comfort really did change my riding life - I'd been messing around with stem length and angle for years but never quite found the right and relaxed position, all it took was that simple adjustment to find the perfect riding position for me.

  • @richardhall263
    @richardhall263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made this adjustment to my handle bars, what a difference . I could not believe how much more comfortable. I was. Thank you, thank you , thank you. You are a star .

  • @jupitermu2621
    @jupitermu2621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my friends suffered from neck pain. Thanks to this great video, her riding life changes.

  • @johnnydoe66
    @johnnydoe66 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I rotated my bars up slightly past level and slid the hoods down. It made a world of difference to my comfort level. Literally no numbness in my fingers or wrist pain on long rides

    • @marathonrunner715
      @marathonrunner715 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wolftick nation represent do u know kettermen?

    • @johnnydoe66
      @johnnydoe66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marathonrunner715 No I don't, but I am a Wolftick og

  • @CareFreeCommuting
    @CareFreeCommuting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ride a cheap old track bike around town (sometimes do 25miles on it, but most days around 12miles) and just started riding this month basically...point is...I flipped the stem from an incline down to upward, as having a little bend in the elbows, seem as important as having the slight bend in the knee when pedaling.
    Great demonstration, and confirms my feelings that i was initially overextending.

  • @PhilAndersonOutside
    @PhilAndersonOutside 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Great tip. I think what you said from about 2:00 to 2:05 is the key.

  • @fhowland
    @fhowland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Omg thank you! I didn’t realize how out of whack my wrist position was, and it was causing all my neck and shoulder pain on long rides!

  • @barbjamison
    @barbjamison 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff!! I just sold my old aluminum road bike and got a new carbon bike, but I was experiencing neck and shoulder pains after riding (which I'd never experienced). I adjusted the bars to get the neutral wrist position, and "Voila!" all fixed.

  • @mtjc1230
    @mtjc1230 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic! I’m new to road bikes only about 800K’s and I’ve noticed wrist pain and clenched shoulders. Truly appreciate this video 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾✊🏾👊🏾

  • @eechaze12
    @eechaze12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing this at the right time. Rode in the extended position on a new bike and caused sharp pain to my shoulder . Have to adjust riding position

  • @brianharris706
    @brianharris706 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the very helpful advice. Will keep triceps from burning on long rides, problem in my past. Peace be with you

  • @sanchitcop19
    @sanchitcop19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This explains why my body hurts like hell, rode a road bike for the first time this past weekend 😂

  • @Mattytube18
    @Mattytube18 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm so glad I found your channel. I live in San Francisco and will be in Santa Fe all summer. I'm thinking of driving up to you and doing a session. Your channels is amazing. Thnx for the excellent content.

    • @markgrenier6787
      @markgrenier6787 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ditto bro...I watch as much as I can...b,/c I want to ride as much as I can.

  • @shaneh-f8451
    @shaneh-f8451 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As others mentioned a slight inward angle on the hoods is helpful. Straight hoods promote locked elbows. A degree or two can make a huge difference. Don't over do it

  • @alangross2277
    @alangross2277 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good tip....I think my handle bars are set right but I need to relax my arms and let my trapezius muscles were getting sore. Now I will try to relax and try not to be so rigid during my rides. Thanks.

  • @jffydavy5509
    @jffydavy5509 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great educational tip. So many riders, complain about those discomforts because they have no clue how to properly position themselves on a their bike.

  • @RareBitsAZ
    @RareBitsAZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. Just starting my journey on a real bike. Looking forward to all you have here. Cheers from AZ, USA

  • @dannygarciero3054
    @dannygarciero3054 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the information. I just switched from a CC bike to a New Road bike & have always had pain in shoulder & neck. This should definitely help me to ride with no pain & enjoy long rides.

  • @46WDiSP75
    @46WDiSP75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I totally agree. Thanks for the explanation, getting the handhold position just right helps with comfort over long rides.
    My bars are set so that I’m comfortable on the drops. I’ve positioned my brakes a little higher than you show on your video, mainly for the feeling of safety I get from the more upright position of the hoods, i.e. there is less chance of my hands slipping over the top of the hoods if I hit a pothole.
    One of my mates has his brakes set right forward and low on his bars, like you show at the start of your video; it feels uncomfortable and unsafe. Now that you’ve explained the science I do not wonder that he has so much trouble with his wrists and shoulders.

  • @marcografvonpartagas
    @marcografvonpartagas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This might explain why I am in so much pain in my neck/right shoulder... will check and adjust before I head out later. Thanks! 👍🏻

  • @rhiadmarhes9291
    @rhiadmarhes9291 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    True. I had a sore left wrist because my hood was too far down the handlebar. Raised it up and now much better.

  • @leftymadrid
    @leftymadrid 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So true this information!! Being fit to your bike is world of difference, long rides become so comfy if you do all the correct adjustments...

  • @saraperez6562
    @saraperez6562 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally someone explaining these issues and fixes in a way that makes sense

  • @myront.miller6868
    @myront.miller6868 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just modified my bars a bit to reflect your suggestion regarding the hood and hand placement. Feels even better. Thanks!

  • @earthstick
    @earthstick 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I experienced this problem early on and quickly realised it came down to the shape of my handlebar. I had an 'anatomical' shaped bar. I found if I had the hoods flat on the bar as they should be then it was impossible to reach the brake levers from the drops and I also had an angle in the wrist when on the drops, similar to the angle you describe on the hoods. If I set the hoods up so that I could reach the brakes from the drops without a kink in the wrist then I had a kink in the wrist when on the hoods as you describe. The problem was the bar and I had to get a compact bar, not for the reduced reach and drop but for the smaller radius curve of the drop which allowed the lever to be closer to the hand while still having a flat hood.

    • @justinarcher9172
      @justinarcher9172 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      earthstick this is exactly what I suspected was my problem. And just ordered a set last night. Glad to see you confirm what I was experiencing, as my wife gets a little upset with my spending on my kit. 😜

    • @simonr7097
      @simonr7097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting advice, however (for people with a similar problem) don't forget that most levers have an adjustment for reach. Try that first before ordering new bars!

    • @earthstick
      @earthstick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@simonr7097 I used shims for the reach adjustment of the levers and it helped but the anatomic bars they used to make were the main problem, they were never going to be comfortable. Compact drops with a different shaped curve solved it.

  • @JoseHernandez-if5ll
    @JoseHernandez-if5ll 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This seems like the solution to the wrist/hand discomfort I get after about 20 miles or so...gonna give it a try. Thanks!

  • @DCdc25
    @DCdc25 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks this simple change may be the answer to my hand trouble during a longer ride.

  • @TroyDettwiler
    @TroyDettwiler 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was incredibly helpful. My chiropractor mentioned my cycling posture might be causing my hand numbness. Thank you so much!

  • @umbertomasoero367
    @umbertomasoero367 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great insight, I'm coming off a shoulder injury and paying attention to neutral hand positioning will help with that for sure.

  • @siddarthgopal2423
    @siddarthgopal2423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip! I will adjust and try again. Your point is spot on!

  • @craigrussell6822
    @craigrussell6822 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great tip. I'm struggling with a sore neck and shoulders and think this may be the cause. Thanks

  • @s9523pink
    @s9523pink 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent information! I periodically get out of the saddle to Marshal different muscles and relax my back, or sit up and ride without hands- being careful. Putting hands on the tops of the handlebars during climbing is also relaxing and allows the body's natural sway. Getting out of the saddle in the drops and elongating the back is another nice way to relax.

  • @MrBoytopak2002
    @MrBoytopak2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So that's what is wrong with my bike, i almost sold my bike i thought it was not a good fit for me, i tried your advice and it is way better position of my hands and shoulders, thanks alot!

  • @JackY-pu5nh
    @JackY-pu5nh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The handlebar is fine, moving the hoods parallel to the ground or slightly upward is the key.

  • @aus80srockradio94
    @aus80srockradio94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy has so many excellent tips & this is another great one.

  • @petec3241
    @petec3241 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the video very much. I was taught years ago to ride without the elbow locked. It can be very jarring over a very long and rough roads if the elbows are locked; the arms get tired quicker than the legs.

  • @justwondering786
    @justwondering786 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey; thank you for this information I'm 60 yo love cycling I ride Surly long haul trucker and you have made my day so thank u again for the "info" looking forward for more videos

  • @Graps19
    @Graps19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I angle the levers slightly inward. Find this eliminates hands going numb.

  • @barnabydaniels8115
    @barnabydaniels8115 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! I am new to drop bars and couldn't figure out why the grip on the hoods didn't feel right. I ride mostly in the city and want quick access to the brakes. You have my respect and gratitude.

  • @embeddedhenrik
    @embeddedhenrik 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! That might be the cause to my uncomfortness on the bike. Will check it out.

  • @thecyclingcouple4438
    @thecyclingcouple4438 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im having upper shoulder discomfort every time i commute to work/home. I had bike fit done already but problem did not go away completely. I will try your tip. Thanks for sharing. liked and subd.

  • @loug4626
    @loug4626 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou for that. Will try as more often than not find I have neck mid shoulder discomfort on longer rides. As an amateur need all assistance we can muster :-). Will check my posture and see if this is cause for me anyways .

  • @DeCabecaNoCiclismo
    @DeCabecaNoCiclismo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    O melhor canal de bike fit que eu já vi!

  • @rdlong
    @rdlong ปีที่แล้ว

    I just went for a ride on an upright after a month or two riding a recumbent. One of the things I immediately noticed how much less comfortable my hands are with the upright. This definitely looks like something for me to check in terms of improving upright comfort.

  • @sophiescyclingandwalkingch4294
    @sophiescyclingandwalkingch4294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve moved the bars up too far on my best bike. Made it difficult to use brakes and shifters when on the drops. Rode my winter bike Monday and Tuesday (different lower angle on bars) much more control and comfort when on the drops.

  • @waterdeptworker
    @waterdeptworker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's how I set all my bikes also same measurements from muddle of handlebars to seat...and seat to pedals....I can do a half century without discomfort....Domane wirh a nice seat is all you need.

  • @mskmsk12
    @mskmsk12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks so much for this. i suffer from pain in my levator scapulae after 45 mins or so on each ride. going to try this tip and hopefully it will help!

  • @stevestewart-sturges2159
    @stevestewart-sturges2159 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for relating this, it really does make a world of difference. I rolled my bars a few degrees to help with a wrist injury after I had seen Thor Hushovd years ago at the Tour with his high brake hoods and kept them there since...

  • @jeffv103
    @jeffv103 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    With that much spacer stack under the stem it would appear that the bike frame is too small for you. A larger frame with a longer top tube will also assist with minimizing the angular deviation.

  • @williamboike7276
    @williamboike7276 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been in this position for years (the 2nd position). It's provides a nice platform for the hands. I never understood why the "LeMond" position from the 80's was so popular. Perhaps more comfortable when climbing out of the saddle? Contador climbs out of the saddle for 20 minutes. I'll check some videos for his position.

  • @franciscosaavedra4949
    @franciscosaavedra4949 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit, i tried this and it completely changed the feel of my bike. I hated riding on my hoods, and now it's easily my favorite position.

  • @raven2717
    @raven2717 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the VERY BIG TIP!

  • @ChrisJoyeMusic
    @ChrisJoyeMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m going to try this. Only my left hand tingles and goes somewhat numb during riding, but I need to check my positioning now! Thanks
    Also sometimes my shoulders will ache.

  • @al-du6lb
    @al-du6lb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I definitely need to do this adjustment.

  • @hectordavidortiz
    @hectordavidortiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some golden info right here for me, just starting out with gears after years riding fixed. Thanks!

  • @ricofiori3327
    @ricofiori3327 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first position with the hoods below the horizontal, also makes braking harder because you have less leverage when squeezing the brakes.

    • @bikefitadviser7012
      @bikefitadviser7012  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rico Fiori Absolutely correct, and the wrist being ulnarly deviated decreases the power we can exert with the hands

  • @DeaDerV23
    @DeaDerV23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I find my bars the most comfy when it's parallel to the ground and the seat. Although my stem has totally different angle. Great video ;) Respec

  • @ytwos1
    @ytwos1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good tips, indeed, I turtle the heck out of myself all the time. I really need to remind to relax my shoulders, keep an angle in the elbows and grip in the right way. If you do that enough you can make a change to your posture. Just got to keep it in mind. You learn to recognize when you ate locking yourself over time.

  • @warrenrae32
    @warrenrae32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always ride with slight bend in arms and wrists....... can’t believe that some would do otherwise. However,I’m sure they’ll ride better than me in other aspects

  • @jasonramsey9770
    @jasonramsey9770 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!!! I'm new to that style of handlebar and you have helped me immensely on understanding how to set it up properly for my body.

  • @jetmercz
    @jetmercz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u for ur video..it helps a lot..no more wrist and shoulder pain.👍

  • @moshe6501
    @moshe6501 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did reposition my hoods hight and felt a lot better! Tks.

  • @kml650
    @kml650 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and explanation of wrist position. I'll be checking my position as I find myself riding with 'shoulders up', and would feel the tension during and after long rides in my upper back.

  • @ioanmcmlxxxviii
    @ioanmcmlxxxviii หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so true, thank you. Very useful information.

  • @moonlikemusic
    @moonlikemusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very very useful! Thank you very much 👍

  • @ni_Pedro_dijo_Pablo
    @ni_Pedro_dijo_Pablo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder such an important issue is not more widely spread. Thank you for posting this great viedeo

  • @cedric_ly
    @cedric_ly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome tips! Just went for my road first bike ride and I had to change positions a lot because of the neck pain, now I know why. I'm glad I found your video now, and not years down the road. You've earned a sub! Keep up the great work!

  • @peterking1270
    @peterking1270 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing, thanks a bunch for the tip. could not work out why my shoulders were always tense. cheers Peter

  • @miguelangelramirez962
    @miguelangelramirez962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just want to know if you adjusted the the brakes lever hoods (making level with the curvature of the handlebar) or rotated the handlebar ?
    Thanks 🙏,
    Miguel

  • @ejesuitas
    @ejesuitas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great valuable tip! Attention to detail. Thank you!

  • @MuhammedAli-hg1tw
    @MuhammedAli-hg1tw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice my handlebars are already in this position good to know ‘before’ I start getting wrist issues

  • @Samqui68
    @Samqui68 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the great video. I never realized that hand position had this effect on the shoulders. I'll check my hand position next time to see what can be improved. And goingnto watch your other videos as well.

  • @Methodical2
    @Methodical2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always do that body check throughout a ride because I find myself locking my elbows and causing unnecessary tightening of the traps gradually during the ride. I literally drop my shoulders and elbows and sigh. What a relief that gives.

  • @iancopp7646
    @iancopp7646 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ta v.much.Great quick tip,fluently put.

  • @ronetele13
    @ronetele13 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, don't quite understand. Was the adjustment to move the brake levers back on the bars? How is that a quick adjustment, doesn't it require redoing the tape? Could a similar benefit come from changing the angle of the bars themselves, tilting them a bit up? Will also, say thank you for your very helpful and very detailed advice! Wow, there is a lot to this!!

  • @erichhudson2090
    @erichhudson2090 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're right! I adjusted my bars & definitely felt the difference, especially in the shoulders. Great tip! Thanks!!
    Looking forward to today's ride.

  • @colinosullivan930
    @colinosullivan930 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos. Hand numbness has been an issue, so I've been watching quite a few of your videos.

  • @Jonas_Fox
    @Jonas_Fox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great piece of advice. I'm wondering how to make this adjustment considering each of the positions, tops, drops, and upright. I seem to be too far away from my handlebars and even though my wrist angle is now correct, I feel like I'm too engaged in the shoulders and neck and my drops are almost too far forward to use.
    Thanks again for all you do.

  • @marilynmoore8353
    @marilynmoore8353 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've started road biking again after years . Thankyou for the insight ! My shoulders are awful after a while . I've been playing with hand position on the bar. With what you're saying does seem to help . I work as a barber so i have problems anyway with shoulders . Sometimes i'm so tense it causes alot of pIn making my ride very uncomfortable , almost unbearable ! I started doing the same thing you were suggesting and it does seem to help . TY 😌

  • @edwinespinosa879
    @edwinespinosa879 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Se nota q tu bici es una gran fondo. Mucho más cómoda q una aero. Se aplica tus consejos para una aero?

  • @TheAdrian91706
    @TheAdrian91706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started doing the change and woke up with no pain this morning....I usually ride hard for 40 min in the streets. Arms wrist and elbows started hurting until I made wrist and body ajdustment.

  • @750vfrman
    @750vfrman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just a simple thank you so much. I now use all your videos & general advice. Would you care to travel over the pond & have a UK office for 6 months of the year?

  • @twoweeledsoto6072
    @twoweeledsoto6072 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going to make these changes and hope for the best. Golfer's elbow on my right, discomfort starting across on my left metacarpals. Getting old ain't for sissy's. It's always something. I'm entertaining a slightly shorter stem (road). I changed slightly longer when I bought the bike. Sorta relatively short leg length relative to my height. Maybe I should've left it as is.
    6-0 on 56cm. Great tips! Thanks

  • @BP-id4cq
    @BP-id4cq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great advice!! Keep them coming please

  • @alonzomartii
    @alonzomartii 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought my self to fix bicycle, I fix them, paint them and replace everything when needed to be replaced. Wheel running and inspection 2-3times for safety that everything is great. and every single time i buy a different bike i have to do at least 8-10 times small details to position it at my desired. Yet still waiting this cause there might always be a new thing to learn from other. I didn't learn anything from this video. But you did a fantastic explanation, not even at REi do so.

  • @jbratt
    @jbratt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hood position looks good but I see a problem with the bar in that position for sprinting out of the saddle in the drops. If the drops are parallel to the ground it keeps the wrist straight while out of the saddle in the drops. The hoods just need to be moved up on the bars a bit.

  • @dwhitehead49
    @dwhitehead49 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Problem is once you rotate the hoods up or raise them on the bars, you can't reach the brakes when holding the drops. I believe the brake levers are designed for racers who have their stem slammed and are reaching more straight down with their arms and wrists. Just like almost every good road bike, they are designed for racers.

  • @adityaprakasa3554
    @adityaprakasa3554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    +Bike Fit Adviser Oh Lord, you just save me life, since I am a very beginner who keep feel suffering on me elbow join post a long ride

  • @estchu
    @estchu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lack clarity on what adjustments made on handlebar

  • @naturallymitch
    @naturallymitch 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is something that I've been trying to solve forever now so I'm gonna try adjusting today and see if that does the trick

  • @michaelsanders4318
    @michaelsanders4318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video.... Do you have a video that shows how to measure your shoulders properly? In order to know what size handlebars you are supposed to be using. Thank you

    • @robtk3
      @robtk3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could have a friend measure for you or use a pencil mark with your back against the wall. This video might be useful to you as well.
      th-cam.com/video/-P-QynImMuo/w-d-xo.html

  • @phoenixtwelve1972
    @phoenixtwelve1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That stack height ! But good advice about the wrist angle 🙂

  • @kennethlimburg6216
    @kennethlimburg6216 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ride your set up and an added benefit is i like to get more aero by bringing the heel of the hand forward on the hood. Its a very versatile position. Thanks,

  • @drpaulee
    @drpaulee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing tip. Thank you!

  • @67daltonknox
    @67daltonknox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me, I switched to flat bars... much better for neck and back.

    • @thebestever333
      @thebestever333 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you buy a whole new bike or did you convert it? If so, how?

    • @67daltonknox
      @67daltonknox 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thebestever333 Converted it. Really easy because the old Shimano 9 speeds are interchangeable: road/mountain, cassettes, shifters, changers etc. Can't do it on the newer stuff