I agree with you about how great the community is. I am so glad to be a part of the Kingdom Death community. I started my TH-cam channel because the let's play channel that I watched Kingdom Death on put their campaign on hiatus. This game has such a great fandom that surrounds it.
The range of emotions I feel while playing this game can not be overstated. Even after hundreds of hours it still hurts when you lose that prized piece of gear, or that survivor that accumulates lots of great stats dies. The deep valleys give way to even higher peaks though and thats why I love this game. I enjoy the story unraveling before me so much that now on my solo playthroughs each lantern year I journal the events and describe to my future self what exactly happened to each wayward survivor. Now I can read through previous campaigns to help remind me of how awesome the individual stories are.
There has never been a game in my collection like this one, its just special and unique. It manages to both attract and terrify me at the same time. Its a crazy, bizarre and emotional ride.
There are some games that go into similar realms (Gloomhaven being the most famous), but nothing hits quite the same way at the end of the day. Although some of those other games are also extremely good, in their own right.
It has core things that makes for fun gaming mechanics 1. Hunting/ dominating large bosses in contrast to fighting swarms of annoying mooks 2. Settlement development in contrast to your gaming actions have no effect to the town you settle 3. Crafting system and collection of sets in contrast that your character has preset equipment and skills. 4. The hunters are not heroes, they become epic legends through their experience and grow strengths/ weaknesses based on your encounters giving character development to your settlers. Each character you make will tell a different story to you. 5. Different player playthrough will shape a different thought process of the game given dynamics within the storytelling allowing unlimited replays.
I never thought it would go so far for me in the board game genre. It started January 2018 when i was introduced to Eldritch Horror. The first game i bought after that was Zombicide Season 1. Over time it went to advanced and expert games. Last year i bought Gloomhaven, however i already had a group with around 25 scenarios done. But I NEEDED this game for a 2 Player campaign and of course because of Corona. The fact that i jumped on kickstarters which are far beyond 100 € (AT:O, Bloodborne All-in and more) i never expected this would happen, when i started in Board Games. Actually i played KDM once 2 years ago and it was overwhelming, because of all the stuff and the rules. But no, this is too much and too expensive for one single game without expensions. Some weeks ago, the german Brettspielblog startet a Live Lets Play of the Lantern Campaign. 2 Days ago they just defeated the Watcher. Well, just after a few episodes i started reading and get more informations about KDM. And then? I pre-ordered the Reprint of 1.6... 3 Days ago, i joined a TTS Campaign and played around 10 hours, defeated the Lion, Gorm and Antelope. My thoughts after these sessions, how much money have i spent for this game? I don't know, can't wait, just want it!!
When I bought the game, my friends called me crazy for spending so much money on a board game. Then they got to experience it and their sentiment changed. I tried playing KDM solo too, for me however, sharing the experience is a huge part of the game and makes it so much more entertaining. I wish it would be different, so I could finally manage to finish a campaign. Can’t wait for my next session. I am curious to know, did you back Aeons Trespass: Odyssey? I‘d like to know your opinion on it. By the way, I think your channel is truly amazing. The quality of your videos is out of this world. I enjoy the way you calmly yet passionately talk about and present the games - KDM in particular ;) And all of that with sanity and reason. I hope you can keep it up and I‘m looking forward to more videos.
The game is solid solo, since getting people together often enough and keeping all the info intact was difficult pre 1.5, I played solo a few times through myself
KDM is also one of my favorite games. But if I'm being completely honest, I've never finished a campaign, have made several house rules (Murder once, then never again), have cheated while playing it solo, and almost certainly enjoy thinking about the game more than playing it.
@@revel911 Really? I wasn't aware of this. It's just been sitting in my basement all this time. I even went the extra mile to sleeve everything and then, didn't play it too much. I'll check those cards out.
Just found your channel and videos due to looking into getting Kingdom Death, and I am a huge fan of this format specifically addressing the most common bias we all deal with. Excellent on both videos!
You have very quickly become one of my favorite TH-camrs! I really enjoy how you make your videos, and the way you present and describe the subject materials. Please keep it up!!!
You mention the hobby aspect and how you have memories tied to the painting of the minis, which is cool. I kinda looked up from my listening at that point in the video with a paintbrush in hand as I work on painting up some minis from another game that I own. And I can already tell personally that some of these early games that I paint will be much less likely to ever leave my collection because of that extra aspect I am adding to them personally.
My introduction to KDM... a friend had me over for it and we got to LY4 with minimal scars. Everything was going great, we had 14 survivors we were gearing up nicely. In a single LY, by the end of LY5 everyone but one of the survivors in the settlement were dead. Due to a couple nemesis encounters, a failed hunt, and... lots of bad intimacy roles trying to recover. The story from it... is what made me fall in love with the game. A lot of big campaign games have stories all planned out with nice branching paths and such. For KDM... the experience creates its own story and you never quite know what sort it will be till the end. I would definitely patronize you for some good KDM content. Just don't stop with the Root games! (Also would love some Twilight Imperium 4e and Arkham Horror: The Card Game).
This game is great. I played it only 3 times at my friend's home (he had the game) and I falled in love with it. Every phase, every battle, every hunt gives me what I treasure the most - emotions. Pure emotions of joy, rage, laugh, depression. In our time when people are hiding their emotions behind masks, the pure emotions is what I seek. And this is what this game gives me. The chance to see all this emotions in people playing it... Or the people doing videos. Like you. So, thank you for this video. Hope, one day I will have my own copy of this game.
@@Quackalope the funny thing is, I played three times and each time I lost a character. And each next character died more horrible death than previous. The first one got severe head injure from White Lion. I rolled a 1 and his head exploded. The second one nearly gone mad and started killing people, but I rolled pretty high and he managed to calm down and skip the next hunt. Unfortunatly, when returning back, group lost in time and space and came to Year One settlement, so that guy was erased from time and space. The last one got nice encounter and had additional armor everywhere. But... On the Hunt Phase he fount stone throne which he wandet to touch so badly. Of course, after touching it, he switched places with the stone figure. Quack, I love this game.))
My guy, I love your passion for this game, and I just recently got the core set and recently got my hands on a gambler's chest, all before i have even dived into my first solo prologue. i just love the scope of this game, and I love how you described how this is an awesome game to solo. i work night shift, so it's hard to schedule game hang outs with friends, so I feel like this is going to really fill that void for me, plus I love the idea of the upkeep and bookkeeping of all elements as I solo play. It's gonna feel like I am building up and living in this world. Also, I see that a lot of your minis are painting almost entirely of a bronze or gold color. I love the look of that, since I am not an expert painter by any means, but it makes it looks epic with that worn bronze look, and it almost matches so well with the showdown game board. I've met you at Origins last year, and I think I saw you in passing at Gen Con a few weeks ago. been following you for over a year now, and glad to see you and your channel thriving!
Kingdom Death is like the artist cut of a song that runs 20 minutes. It has everything and every experimental idea the designer can think of. It’s fun to play something that isn’t edited and has a unique feel when compared to other games.
i LOVE this game! my favourite character, i was so proud of because he had +2 strength and +1 evasion and had killed the butcher, was killed during a settlement event ( i think it was called murder or so?) ...aaaaaand he's gone xD pure love to KDM
Hey Quack, I really enjoyed the video. Oftentimes it's hard when talking about things to do an effective critique while not diminishing from the overall quality of an experience. I liked watching your two videos both gushing about and critiquing the game. Much love hope you're well.
Dude, you are enthusiastic and passionate. Probably not gonna play the game, but your videos are entertaining. Keep up the good work about what you love. Oss! :)
I love the theme and art of KDM. As a fan of Hellraiser, growing up with body count horror movies, and later torture horror, this is the type of game that would appeal to me. I also love the bronze paint job. I'm going to have to do that for a game where it works thematically. I'm thinking something like Age of Atlantis, with the metal robot mythic creatures and the giant statue.
KDM really is incredible! I have only played it solo on TTS. Can’t afford this literal monolithic monster! I love the depth of the mechanics and how the story lends to an evolving Lore and History that somehow makes sense in its twistedness!
Im going to purchase the starter set on monday! I learned about this game from another YTber that builds various models and minis. Instantly fell in love with this. Jump forward a fews years, and im trying to get back into MTG and YGO and just decided this is not for me anymore. So I sold my entire collection and using those funds to by this! I cant wait to get back into building and painting and I do plan on this being my one and only Tabletop. Im droppin 4 hundo on this so wht not😂
This was a great watch. I started out with mini gaming, and really respect that you didn't let the hobby side keep you away from it 👍. Also, your 5 reasons not to play is what cemented my desire to own this game 🤣.
My favorite table top game / sci fi is warhammer 40k. This looks cool though. I know nothing of it but I like how you love it and take the time to tell us / explain it for us.
Thanks for the complete overview of Kingdom Death. I've been following it on and off for many years wondering if i should get it and really, this video only makes me more intrigued to get it and play it. The dark macable, the dark humor (punching the lion and pulling out his balls like in shut down and play's video), the village expansion, crafting, hunt, etc. All of thise make me want to get it. Only the time comimitement has been holding me back (2 very young children and all the rest of life...).... But the solo play especially in the current state of the world makes it very appealing... Also what better lesson in life, if you don't succeed, if you falldown, try again time and time again. You'll win some, you'll lose some, you'll learn and grow... Thanks for your enthusiams for the game :)
I held myself from buying KDM for years because of the miniatures. It wasn't something I had no interest and no skills in. I cracked up about a year and a half ago. I assembled literally all monsters within a week.To be fair, a year and a half later, I still have some survivors not assembled. I haven't painted any, and I don't plan on doing it. But boy... this game. This masterpiece of a game. The first night I planned to play, some friends came home around 6-7PM. We played until 7AM. Went to bed, woke up around 2-3PM... and started all over again until late that night. There is something like no others. And I love how you mention it; I feel like the answers missing is part of it. I think it's needed. Only your imagination can fill the gaps in the end, and I think it's perfect this way. Having an "end" and "answers" might have left it much less replayable and potentially lead to a loss of interest, of mystery. The only thing I regret is, I introduced this game to so many people, that I struggle a whole lot to maintain a group. I had one going quite steady, but then the pandemic hit. I hope we'll go back to it again soon... because after all... I've started so many campaigns... and finished none of them. So yeah... may be you're not... but I am a bit tired of that white lion ;) I sadly missed the last Black Friday sale and I'm currently waiting in the next to get some (or all?) expansions. I just hope they reprint some. Absolutely need that Gorm... and to be fair, at Black Friday's price... I'd take the Expansion of Death at this point. Oathsworn is the game I'm looking to that might resemble it the most. But the "no perma death" in Oathsworn is almost a turn off. I'm a big fan of these tactical games like XCOM or Fire Emblem. And Kingdom Death also brought this to the table.
Love this comment and I relate to it so much! 100% they will reprint the expansions :) If you don't have the scribe app for solo play yet . . . try it out!
@@Quackalope I tried, but I have a decent solo collection, and KD:M isn't part of it for me. I tried, ran a few LY, but I don't get the same excitement solo. I much prefer playing it with friends. And I'm lucky enough to have a crazy amount of steady friends. I tried both Scribe and Black Ledger back then, I don't know how much they evolved since, it's been about a year. I was a little disappointed how useless they were in the middle of the fight as "active sheet".
Oh !!! Im sooooo in love with kdm... my best friend brought kdm at home. It was a kingdom death week-end that right friday to Sunday whe played non stop .. whe played more than 24h and only kdm . this is my game. Now I need more ..need to fix my urge.. need my copie. I want more !!!! What great time . Thanks to my best friend to share his passion. Allright here I go in search of my kingdomdeath monter !
Agreed. This is my favorite game. I think it has some flaws (a bit too much chance) and personally I don’t love the cost/building of mini’s. But the horror, the brutal nature and the difficulty all make it so amazing. I hope we get more KDM content soon!
I just found out, comments I left thru pc won't display on the videos :-0. This is the comment I left in the previous video. "Yeah! I think this format is fantastic. Especially when the subject of the topic is a game people love and/or have a personal love for it. I've never played KDM, only found out about it thru your channel (is it right for your video), and I seriously can see myself getting the game if I had people around me who would love to put some hours with it. After doing some research and watching your videos, I believe this game is a type of a game in which, you must commit not only time but, put an effort to get immersed within the game. I'm definitely happy that this game exists, I just hope @kingdomdeath would reply to your tweets sometime soon lol." Anyway, now time to enjoy the video!
I will give kdm credit for being the one tactical boss battler on the market for almost 5 years straight. This year there’s seriously 5 of these in development currently, but if you wanted this gameplay, this was it until probably starting Feb 2021. Can you imagine if the only farm game you could buy was Agricola?
Love the game to bits sunk so much time into it, only downside is i bought it from their store and getting hands on any kind of expansion is pretty much impossible since people are making a killing on reselling them on ebay for insane prices so getting a hold of one for original price especially the good ones is pretty much impossible. Got to lantern year 25 after 7 laythroughs i laughed and cried with this game and to be honest the emotional ride of this game is insane. There is nothing like it and pretty much one of a kind.
I saw the other video first and I enjoyed your explanation of why KDM may not be for someone. I am writing this at the start of the video but I am sure you will give an appropriate explanation why someone should like KDM.
Quackalope, man. Your White Lion is LEAGUES better than mine! KD:M was also my first hobby experience game, so I totally can relate to everything you are saying. I feel like a dark KD:M priest sometimes. The first thing going through my mind after I meet someone is: "Would this person like KD:M?" followed closely by, "Does this person consume alcohol?" :D
Followup to White Lion: It's really sad how bad mine is considering how much table time that model gets. On the other hand, having stuff like that around can really show how far your art has come!
I feel like this game is going to be remembered as a re-energizing of the ameritrash side of the hobby. Aeon trespass, oathsworn, sankokushin, Primal: the awakening, even Middara... all seem to have been influenced by Kingdom Death. I really like some of the ideas of KD, but it was too much stuff to manage for 2 players, hopefully some of the games I mentioned streamline the phases a bit, while keeping the best bits.
@@revel911 What? A game with theme as the primary motivator behind the design, conflict-oriented and with no qualms about introducing randomness is the definition of ameritrash. Just because zombicide is light and KD is heavy doesn't mean they aren't in that same broad design category. Of course ameritrash games can have rpg elements, but I don't know how Kingdom death fits the wargame category haha
Its not a game. It doesnt want you to have fun. It wants to destroy you until you put it back on the shelf. And then...sometimes, you hear a whisper "you never beat me"...it mocks me...i know it.
It looks like you could potentially enjoy wargames. If you enjoy the fantasy theme and building Miniatures, but you don't want to spend a lot of money on minis, then I suggest once again, Frostgrave, Rangers of Shadow deep and Ghost Archipelago. You can even play those games solo. The enemies have AI rules and your characters level up. There's also plenty of cinematic moments in those games.
SuccessfulGeek I am hopeful that ATO will do it well but the elegance of the AI deck in KDM and the vastly unique feel of each monster is exquisite. Add the variability between even the same levels of the same monsters and manipulation of the deck... I really think it is one of the best things about KDM (one of my top 3 games)
ATO certainly has made some aspects of the combat better in my opinion. Here are a couple of examples: 1. You don't have to worry about hit locations, you have 3 gauges that you monitor instead of locations on the body. Also, taking damage isn't always a bad thing in ATO which is an interesting mental shift to make. 2. The AI system is similar but since things escalate as you damage locations new tiers of the AI get introduced into the mix. The best way I can describe the escalation process would be comparing it to an MMO Raid boss fight that has multiple stages. The more of the next stage that gets introduced the more you have to figure out how to adjust. 3. The Hard Co-Op mechanisms make it easier to more reliably hit locations. It also means that you really pay attention to your allies in combat because you set each other up for combos. All of that being said, I personally like those 3 major adjustments they have made but I'm sure some people will still favor the gritty/random nature of the KDM fights contrasted with ATO.
I enjoy the "you'll love to hate this game" format. How about doing one for that Spirit Island back there? I bought that game to play with my dad on New Years Day. I thought "cool a co-op so we can play with each other vs against each other." Well between our AP and backtracking numerous illegal moves, it took almost 5 hours. I ended up quarterbacking us to a win and now only play that game solo. BUT I can't wait for Jagged Earth! I usually control 3 or 4 spirits on level 5 and might just take a vacation day to try and solo 6 spirits
After playing 1.6 Core and simulator (official and TTS) I really enjoy this game but it still has work to do. What I think is really needed is a 2.0 version with all fixes and replace the miniatures with card standees. It would probably drastically reduce the cost and get more people into the game if it closer to under £200. Other than that suggestion, great game and great video!
I like the game, but I really wish they had an intro version for those who aren't invested in the "art exhibit" aspect of it. Like a fifty dollar four or five enemy small box.
@@Quackalope I got everything I needed to know in five battles (four lion and the other "normal" animal). Again, the game is being primarily sold as an art installation, I get that. But give people a taste (like a gift shop print). It isn't the same as the real thing, but gives just enough flavor to reminisce over the real deal and give hunger to experience the real thing. I think Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion demonstrated that this can be a winning strategy.
When i crawled into this boardgame world, i searched for games that i could have liked. This one attracted me in an instant and i looked for it on the internet. That's when i forced myself to delete this game from my memory
I had a great time listening to you and your narrative for the episode. I did do some other tasks while listening - even looking for the game to see how expensive it is. Super disappointed in it's lack of availability, but I would for sure be interested to try playing it with an experienced gamer to see if it catches fire for me. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings for this game. The episode is a good time. Louis
Love it! Thanks for the video. It's comforting to see other people strangely obsessed with this game. It's funny because I am not a fan of horror and at first that put me off of the Kickstarter. But I kept coming back to it out of some morbid sense of curiosity. Now, the twisted horror of this game has become almost a charming necessity to the experience... I can't imagine this game without all the Poots insanity sprinkled all over it. This game also got me into painting figures... and now that it one of my main hobbies almost equal to that of actually playing games.
What you're describing, also in the other video, sounds a lot to me like a roguelike version of Dark Souls. Imagine you have to start over every time you die in DS, nuts. I love the style of this game, and one day I'm gonna get it, but just out of curiosity, couldn't you implement some sort of Save mechanics, or savepoints in case everything goes south you can continue your good campaign and eventually see the end of the story hehe. Just wondering. Like some sort of parallel universes.
Honestly both pieces were some of the best content from you, KD is my joy and shame as well! Obviously traffic dependent for draws but think it would be good to do any of the top 20 or so of the bgg titles or maybe even just do a top 5 chosen patreon genres and pick one of those types... thanks for all that you do! PS for the negative which I watched first it reminds me of Hercules pointing out the faults while you are wearing their merch ;-)
Thank you! This is a new format that we are working on - so I hope the quality keeps improving as I go! We plan to cover popular games with a conversation around them already!
I always wanted to try this game but the sprues are a huge barrier to me. Unfortunately I don't have much time to build a lot of minis Just to start playing.
Pro tip. Put together 4 heroes and all monsters then play. You don't need to customize your character over and over...but you need all the monsters for sure. (but can get away with lion and antelope for the first day/campaign)
I am loving this, the more research says to pull the trigger. My problem is, the limited models and stuff I can’t get now. Being a completionist will be hard for me. My daughter and son in law are Gloomhaven freaks, and I have thought that, but I always come back to this. My question is, can I at least still get expansions or am I just SoL for lack of better terms?
If this game was simply paper sheets and cards costing like and you could buy it in it's entirety 100-200 dollars, I would buy it in a heartbeat. The darkness and tragedy of the theme of this game, along with uncovering the mystery of it's story, makes me look longingly in it's direction after rejecting it over and over. The Idea of pitting myself against the enormous and cruel puzzle that KDM has in store, makes my blood pump and my brain whir with mechanization in anticipation of pitting myself against an almost impossible foe. Being responsible for the life and death of my own ragged band of the last flicker of humanity, with darkness waiting to swallow them as fast as flipping off a light at midnight, makes me wonder if I could scrape together three months pay and just go for it. But.. this game requires a commitment that I simply cannot give. This game will devour your time, money, and and hell space faster than the white lion will eat an unprepared and inexperienced hunter during your first play through. If I want the same kind of stakes or story, I'm just gonna throw down a hundred bucks for an role playing game and play forever in whatever world I want to, and I'd never have to spend another cent. I love miniatures, but have never really wanted to spend the time to build them, frequently just pumping them out as fast as I could, just so I could get them to the table, and consequentially has led to 1/3 of a closet filled with boxes of un-assembled minis. The complexity of adding up 3 modifiers for every roll, just makes me feel like it would take away from the elements of the game that I truly enjoy. So, I understand Why you like it, and I'm even a bit jealous that you have the ability say yes to this horrifically beautiful monstrosity. But I've been down this road before, and have learned some hard lessons about practicality and value, and so I'll say no again. p.s. I really like the concept for these videos. Kind of wish there was something like it for just about every topic.
I haven't played Kingdom death. I have played gloom haven, how does it compare to gloom haven, with all its aspects? Reason i ask is im interested in buying a new game and this seems intriguing.
I did like the game a lot more than I thought I might. Dangerously much, as it's a huge and expensive game that I don't have the space or the money for atm. Or really time, I get to play a little with my friend who has gotten it but I does leave me fiending for more and yet there is no way I could fit more of this into my current situation. It's bothersome.
Also do they ever reprint their stuff, I like to collect all the parts to a game I get into, but coming to this game this late I have missed out on some great looking expansions. :(
Love the game got all expansions as of 2020 hope to see more. An honestly I have see faster content come out and screw over game but sometime thing do need to flow out faster not every 3 years something new
Seems like Kingdom Death has an excessive amount of limited release minis and the store is often barren. Do they cycle through common minis or is everything just low production run? This is the biggest reason I havent bought in yet. I dont want to be behind on years of minis and never find anything but knockoffs on ebay.
I like your enthusiasm for the game. It is your most favorite game, but you even did not finish a single campaign?! So I strongly recommend to include the Manhunter. Such a cool fight and so many possible great rewards. One is a FA called the Transcended Masochist... Generally said, I can agree to most of your points. Fortunately I have a good soul close nearby that builds the minis for me. So I can dive deep in the content with all expansions. It is my favorite game as well and it is the only game I play solo. Best is with 2 or 3 players of course but finding enough times to play with more players is troublesome. I always want to play it too. Even after 13 won campaigns with nearly all received achievements except the Green Armor. I did not try it so far. Funny that so many people compare it with D&D. But I think it is not. It misses the real roleplay elements. For me it is more a very very dark Civilization (it helps if you played Call of Cthulhu before) thing and I like it so much trying to avoid all the possible catastrophies and getting my tribe out of harms way. Its a constant challenge and you cannot save all. But give it a try!
This video made me so happy 😭😁 Super amazing horrific game! When I win the giveaway your doing I will finally get it to my table and not just TTS. I am not desperate..yes I am...no I am not...wait maybe slightly desperate...don’t listen to him/me...the game has driven us mad. We will win..I mean I will win. I have seen it in my dreams...my nightmares...our nightmares...
So... I bought KDM 1.0 many years ago and it is unopened in my closet of "someday" shame. Part of that is that I just don't like the hobby element and the other part is that I missed out on the balance updates and such from the 1.5 upgrade. I tend to have a rotating conversation with myself about ditching the 1.0, getting 1.5, and going down KDM the rabbit hole, or just sell off the 1.0 and never look back. I get stuck in this process and thus it sits. Any advice? Is 1.5 worth it? This video actually got me to do my semi-monthly search for the all elusive 1.5 upgrade pack. No luck.
So the upgrade is hard to get - it does add some nice things to KDM but the 1.0 is certainly playable. I might try to sell if I were you as a 1.0 copy and buy 1.5 :) Just don't sell for less than you paid.
Love the idea of the series! Would love to play KDM but i just know i couldn't afford it and i worry some in my group would struggle with the harsh gameplay i.e. dieing haha 😂 I'd like to see Root :D
Nice video again Quack. Cool to see how passionate you are about this game. Newb question coming from a gaming newb, what is the official meaning of a 'hobbyist game'?
I love & hate this game. The game play and sense of accomplishment and the stories it creates is amazing. The phallic, explicit content kinda drives me off sometimes. The time commitment also is an important factor on this relationship... I wanna play it more, but I have so many other great games on my “shelves of opportunity”... I want to hate this game, but I don’t. Not even a second.
I love the new format, though i would suggest linking the other video, as, for me at least i had to go and find it separately, and it wasn't recommended. KDM is a crazy fun, immersive game, though it is really hard to get new people interested in. i'm most likely going to use the giga-lion encounter to try and get some of my friends interested.
I just saw a video on TH-cam from a guy called Quackalope. He seemed to really hate this game. Nice to see people can have different opinions. ;)
We need the various opinions in the community I think - I will have to check it out!
@@Quackalope Haha, well played.
Quackalope it is quite long, but worth it. I could link it, but I believe you will find it easily enough.
That other guy was a real douche nozzle. Not like this guy 😅
Just played for the first time. I’m speechless
I agree with you about how great the community is. I am so glad to be a part of the Kingdom Death community. I started my TH-cam channel because the let's play channel that I watched Kingdom Death on put their campaign on hiatus. This game has such a great fandom that surrounds it.
Can't wait to buy this game I was watching pratski for awhile but plan on going through your playthrough next!
The range of emotions I feel while playing this game can not be overstated. Even after hundreds of hours it still hurts when you lose that prized piece of gear, or that survivor that accumulates lots of great stats dies. The deep valleys give way to even higher peaks though and thats why I love this game. I enjoy the story unraveling before me so much that now on my solo playthroughs each lantern year I journal the events and describe to my future self what exactly happened to each wayward survivor. Now I can read through previous campaigns to help remind me of how awesome the individual stories are.
Oh - it gives you the best moments XD
There has never been a game in my collection like this one, its just special and unique. It manages to both attract and terrify me at the same time. Its a crazy, bizarre and emotional ride.
XD - I approve this message!
There are some games that go into similar realms (Gloomhaven being the most famous), but nothing hits quite the same way at the end of the day. Although some of those other games are also extremely good, in their own right.
It has core things that makes for fun gaming mechanics
1. Hunting/ dominating large bosses in contrast to fighting swarms of annoying mooks
2. Settlement development in contrast to your gaming actions have no effect to the town you settle
3. Crafting system and collection of sets in contrast that your character has preset equipment and skills.
4. The hunters are not heroes, they become epic legends through their experience and grow strengths/ weaknesses based on your encounters giving character development to your settlers. Each character you make will tell a different story to you.
5. Different player playthrough will shape a different thought process of the game given dynamics within the storytelling allowing unlimited replays.
00:00:00 - Hello, hello
00:00:30 - Confirmation Bias
00:02:48 - KDM Overview
00:05:32 - The Last Few Months
00:07:05 - Nostalgia
00:08:26 - The Showdown
00:11:18 - The Settlement
00:13:10 - The Hunt
00:14:40 - Mediating Risk
00:16:36 - Solo Gaming
00:18:09 - Community
00:19:38 - Hobbyist Game
00:22:20 - Darkness and Suffering
Quack.
@@Quackalope Hoot!
I never thought it would go so far for me in the board game genre. It started January 2018 when i was introduced to Eldritch Horror. The first game i bought after that was Zombicide Season 1. Over time it went to advanced and expert games. Last year i bought Gloomhaven, however i already had a group with around 25 scenarios done. But I NEEDED this game for a 2 Player campaign and of course because of Corona. The fact that i jumped on kickstarters which are far beyond 100 € (AT:O, Bloodborne All-in and more) i never expected this would happen, when i started in Board Games. Actually i played KDM once 2 years ago and it was overwhelming, because of all the stuff and the rules. But no, this is too much and too expensive for one single game without expensions. Some weeks ago, the german Brettspielblog startet a Live Lets Play of the Lantern Campaign. 2 Days ago they just defeated the Watcher. Well, just after a few episodes i started reading and get more informations about KDM. And then? I pre-ordered the Reprint of 1.6... 3 Days ago, i joined a TTS Campaign and played around 10 hours, defeated the Lion, Gorm and Antelope. My thoughts after these sessions, how much money have i spent for this game? I don't know, can't wait, just want it!!
When I bought the game, my friends called me crazy for spending so much money on a board game. Then they got to experience it and their sentiment changed.
I tried playing KDM solo too, for me however, sharing the experience is a huge part of the game and makes it so much more entertaining. I wish it would be different, so I could finally manage to finish a campaign. Can’t wait for my next session.
I am curious to know, did you back Aeons Trespass: Odyssey? I‘d like to know your opinion on it.
By the way, I think your channel is truly amazing. The quality of your videos is out of this world. I enjoy the way you calmly yet passionately talk about and present the games - KDM in particular ;) And all of that with sanity and reason. I hope you can keep it up and I‘m looking forward to more videos.
I agree about the stories it tell :) I’m glad your enjoying the show :P more is certainly on the way!
The game is solid solo, since getting people together often enough and keeping all the info intact was difficult pre 1.5, I played solo a few times through myself
I'm just waiting for the Quackalope full Thirty Lantern Year KD:M campaign. It's coming. I can feel it.
I have been practicing for a year and half now :) - trust me - I want it.
KDM is also one of my favorite games.
But if I'm being completely honest, I've never finished a campaign, have made several house rules (Murder once, then never again), have cheated while playing it solo, and almost certainly enjoy thinking about the game more than playing it.
One could argue the anticipation of something is better than the partaking of it!
I never finished either. The book keeping really turned me off of the game.
Look into the Community Edition cards, the fix some of those issues.
@@revel911 Really? I wasn't aware of this. It's just been sitting in my basement all this time. I even went the extra mile to sleeve everything and then, didn't play it too much. I'll check those cards out.
Did you house rule the potential infinites?
KDM is one of my favorite games because of the experiences. The stories it creates are great.
Yes . . just yes.
Just found your channel and videos due to looking into getting Kingdom Death, and I am a huge fan of this format specifically addressing the most common bias we all deal with. Excellent on both videos!
Thanks so much :) glad you found this useful
You have very quickly become one of my favorite TH-camrs! I really enjoy how you make your videos, and the way you present and describe the subject materials. Please keep it up!!!
You mention the hobby aspect and how you have memories tied to the painting of the minis, which is cool. I kinda looked up from my listening at that point in the video with a paintbrush in hand as I work on painting up some minis from another game that I own. And I can already tell personally that some of these early games that I paint will be much less likely to ever leave my collection because of that extra aspect I am adding to them personally.
Oh, absolutely! :)
My introduction to KDM... a friend had me over for it and we got to LY4 with minimal scars. Everything was going great, we had 14 survivors we were gearing up nicely. In a single LY, by the end of LY5 everyone but one of the survivors in the settlement were dead. Due to a couple nemesis encounters, a failed hunt, and... lots of bad intimacy roles trying to recover. The story from it... is what made me fall in love with the game. A lot of big campaign games have stories all planned out with nice branching paths and such. For KDM... the experience creates its own story and you never quite know what sort it will be till the end.
I would definitely patronize you for some good KDM content. Just don't stop with the Root games! (Also would love some Twilight Imperium 4e and Arkham Horror: The Card Game).
Sounds like an amazing game :P
Great video series bud, really enjoy “both sides of the coin style”. If KDM ever breaks you, I’ll be happy to buy you expansions ha ha
This game is great. I played it only 3 times at my friend's home (he had the game) and I falled in love with it. Every phase, every battle, every hunt gives me what I treasure the most - emotions. Pure emotions of joy, rage, laugh, depression. In our time when people are hiding their emotions behind masks, the pure emotions is what I seek. And this is what this game gives me. The chance to see all this emotions in people playing it... Or the people doing videos. Like you. So, thank you for this video. Hope, one day I will have my own copy of this game.
Quack! SO much story :)
@@Quackalope the funny thing is, I played three times and each time I lost a character. And each next character died more horrible death than previous. The first one got severe head injure from White Lion. I rolled a 1 and his head exploded. The second one nearly gone mad and started killing people, but I rolled pretty high and he managed to calm down and skip the next hunt. Unfortunatly, when returning back, group lost in time and space and came to Year One settlement, so that guy was erased from time and space. The last one got nice encounter and had additional armor everywhere. But... On the Hunt Phase he fount stone throne which he wandet to touch so badly. Of course, after touching it, he switched places with the stone figure.
Quack, I love this game.))
@@9571sssr Haha XD classic KDM!
This series needs more Root! The game isn’t perfect for everyone, but it is for me :)
I love KDM, but my favorite game is Gloomhaven. Maybe that would be a good Confirmation Bias candidate.
Oh - 100% on the list :)
My guy, I love your passion for this game, and I just recently got the core set and recently got my hands on a gambler's chest, all before i have even dived into my first solo prologue. i just love the scope of this game, and I love how you described how this is an awesome game to solo. i work night shift, so it's hard to schedule game hang outs with friends, so I feel like this is going to really fill that void for me, plus I love the idea of the upkeep and bookkeeping of all elements as I solo play. It's gonna feel like I am building up and living in this world.
Also, I see that a lot of your minis are painting almost entirely of a bronze or gold color. I love the look of that, since I am not an expert painter by any means, but it makes it looks epic with that worn bronze look, and it almost matches so well with the showdown game board.
I've met you at Origins last year, and I think I saw you in passing at Gen Con a few weeks ago. been following you for over a year now, and glad to see you and your channel thriving!
Man, I love your passion. Props bro. I've wanted to play this but haven't yet. Also "we're all a little bit twisted" lol yep.
Kingdom Death is like the artist cut of a song that runs 20 minutes. It has everything and every experimental idea the designer can think of. It’s fun to play something that isn’t edited and has a unique feel when compared to other games.
i LOVE this game!
my favourite character, i was so proud of because he had +2 strength and +1 evasion and had killed the butcher, was killed during a settlement event ( i think it was called murder or so?)
...aaaaaand he's gone xD
pure love to KDM
Hey Quack, I really enjoyed the video.
Oftentimes it's hard when talking about things to do an effective critique while not diminishing from the overall quality of an experience. I liked watching your two videos both gushing about and critiquing the game.
Much love hope you're well.
Thanks so much! I hope we can keep the style and improve on it as we produce more!
Dude, you are enthusiastic and passionate. Probably not gonna play the game, but your videos are entertaining. Keep up the good work about what you love. Oss! :)
I love the theme and art of KDM. As a fan of Hellraiser, growing up with body count horror movies, and later torture horror, this is the type of game that would appeal to me.
I also love the bronze paint job. I'm going to have to do that for a game where it works thematically. I'm thinking something like Age of Atlantis, with the metal robot mythic creatures and the giant statue.
Amen growing up in the age of hellraiser, tool, rob zombies and marilyn Manson has made us the stable well adjusted grown ups of today :-)
Now I am looking up those titles XD
Quack!
Love it, I hope I can have the opportunity to play this game once with you.
This game is life
It is XD
KDM really is incredible! I have only played it solo on TTS. Can’t afford this literal monolithic monster! I love the depth of the mechanics and how the story lends to an evolving Lore and History that somehow makes sense in its twistedness!
I 100% everything you wrote!
I love your format! As you’re still not published the Too Many Bones gaming session I would like it to be covered in your new format
Hahah - thank you for the reminder :P I did ask for it! I have been swarmed with projects and am just now getting free again to experiment!
Quackalope I’m a self old devil 😈 I really appreciate your work!!!!
Im going to purchase the starter set on monday!
I learned about this game from another YTber that builds various models and minis. Instantly fell in love with this. Jump forward a fews years, and im trying to get back into MTG and YGO and just decided this is not for me anymore. So I sold my entire collection and using those funds to by this!
I cant wait to get back into building and painting and I do plan on this being my one and only Tabletop. Im droppin 4 hundo on this so wht not😂
This was a great watch. I started out with mini gaming, and really respect that you didn't let the hobby side keep you away from it 👍. Also, your 5 reasons not to play is what cemented my desire to own this game 🤣.
My favorite table top game / sci fi is warhammer 40k. This looks cool though. I know nothing of it but I like how you love it and take the time to tell us / explain it for us.
Thanks for the complete overview of Kingdom Death. I've been following it on and off for many years wondering if i should get it and really, this video only makes me more intrigued to get it and play it. The dark macable, the dark humor (punching the lion and pulling out his balls like in shut down and play's video), the village expansion, crafting, hunt, etc. All of thise make me want to get it. Only the time comimitement has been holding me back (2 very young children and all the rest of life...).... But the solo play especially in the current state of the world makes it very appealing... Also what better lesson in life, if you don't succeed, if you falldown, try again time and time again. You'll win some, you'll lose some, you'll learn and grow... Thanks for your enthusiams for the game :)
Glad you enjoyed this - I hope you get to play it one day soon! Quack!
I love this game, and I need EVERYTHING from it!
I held myself from buying KDM for years because of the miniatures. It wasn't something I had no interest and no skills in.
I cracked up about a year and a half ago. I assembled literally all monsters within a week.To be fair, a year and a half later, I still have some survivors not assembled. I haven't painted any, and I don't plan on doing it.
But boy... this game. This masterpiece of a game. The first night I planned to play, some friends came home around 6-7PM. We played until 7AM. Went to bed, woke up around 2-3PM... and started all over again until late that night.
There is something like no others. And I love how you mention it; I feel like the answers missing is part of it. I think it's needed. Only your imagination can fill the gaps in the end, and I think it's perfect this way. Having an "end" and "answers" might have left it much less replayable and potentially lead to a loss of interest, of mystery.
The only thing I regret is, I introduced this game to so many people, that I struggle a whole lot to maintain a group. I had one going quite steady, but then the pandemic hit. I hope we'll go back to it again soon... because after all... I've started so many campaigns... and finished none of them. So yeah... may be you're not... but I am a bit tired of that white lion ;)
I sadly missed the last Black Friday sale and I'm currently waiting in the next to get some (or all?) expansions. I just hope they reprint some. Absolutely need that Gorm... and to be fair, at Black Friday's price... I'd take the Expansion of Death at this point.
Oathsworn is the game I'm looking to that might resemble it the most. But the "no perma death" in Oathsworn is almost a turn off. I'm a big fan of these tactical games like XCOM or Fire Emblem. And Kingdom Death also brought this to the table.
Love this comment and I relate to it so much! 100% they will reprint the expansions :)
If you don't have the scribe app for solo play yet . . . try it out!
@@Quackalope I tried, but I have a decent solo collection, and KD:M isn't part of it for me. I tried, ran a few LY, but I don't get the same excitement solo. I much prefer playing it with friends. And I'm lucky enough to have a crazy amount of steady friends.
I tried both Scribe and Black Ledger back then, I don't know how much they evolved since, it's been about a year. I was a little disappointed how useless they were in the middle of the fight as "active sheet".
Love see my Storm Knight randomly on the b-reel.
:P haha
It's the best board game experience that you will every have. I can't wait to see your coverage.
Working on it :) slowly but surly!
Oh !!! Im sooooo in love with kdm... my best friend brought kdm at home. It was a kingdom death week-end that right friday to Sunday whe played non stop .. whe played more than 24h and only kdm . this is my game. Now I need more ..need to fix my urge.. need my copie. I want more !!!! What great time . Thanks to my best friend to share his passion. Allright here I go in search of my kingdomdeath monter !
How long would you say it took you to learn the game? How long did it take for you to show your friend how to play?
@@edgfigueroa he did a crash course the week before.... whe did the prologue... white lion...
Love the format and agree with your points. Would love to see more content on this game.
Working on a video for the Patreon today and one for the main channel tomorrow :)
For what it's worth, I'd love to see a KDM campaign. Sounds like you don't know enough people nearby who'd consistently be interested though.
I am still trying to figure out how to do this and make it work the time / investment.
Love this content
I’m really glad!
Agreed. This is my favorite game. I think it has some flaws (a bit too much chance) and personally I don’t love the cost/building of mini’s. But the horror, the brutal nature and the difficulty all make it so amazing. I hope we get more KDM content soon!
100% agree Quack!
Cool video format. I like it
I just found out, comments I left thru pc won't display on the videos :-0.
This is the comment I left in the previous video.
"Yeah! I think this format is fantastic. Especially when the subject of the topic is a game people love and/or have a personal love for it. I've never played KDM, only found out about it thru your channel (is it right for your video), and I seriously can see myself getting the game if I had people around me who would love to put some hours with it.
After doing some research and watching your videos, I believe this game is a type of a game in which, you must commit not only time but, put an effort to get immersed within the game. I'm definitely happy that this game exists, I just hope @kingdomdeath would reply to your tweets sometime soon lol."
Anyway, now time to enjoy the video!
I’ll check - I might need to approve it if TH-cam is being strange.
@@Quackalope yeah, maybe it's just me? It does that sometimes :/
@@jameslee7161 Could be your IP
@@Quackalope hahahaha probably. Gah
I will give kdm credit for being the one tactical boss battler on the market for almost 5 years straight.
This year there’s seriously 5 of these in development currently, but if you wanted this gameplay, this was it until probably starting Feb 2021.
Can you imagine if the only farm game you could buy was Agricola?
Haha - I hear you XD
Love the game to bits sunk so much time into it, only downside is i bought it from their store and getting hands on any kind of expansion is pretty much impossible since people are making a killing on reselling them on ebay for insane prices so getting a hold of one for original price especially the good ones is pretty much impossible. Got to lantern year 25 after 7 laythroughs i laughed and cried with this game and to be honest the emotional ride of this game is insane. There is nothing like it and pretty much one of a kind.
I saw the other video first and I enjoyed your explanation of why KDM may not be for someone. I am writing this at the start of the video but I am sure you will give an appropriate explanation why someone should like KDM.
I hope I did!
@@Quackalope After watching the rest of the video I believe you did.
I just ordered mine and I’ll be honest, your feelings on it have me more excited that I was initially.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I hope you enjoy the game.
I’m getting mixed signals.
Maybe so :)
Quackalope, man. Your White Lion is LEAGUES better than mine! KD:M was also my first hobby experience game, so I totally can relate to everything you are saying. I feel like a dark KD:M priest sometimes. The first thing going through my mind after I meet someone is: "Would this person like KD:M?" followed closely by, "Does this person consume alcohol?" :D
Followup to White Lion: It's really sad how bad mine is considering how much table time that model gets. On the other hand, having stuff like that around can really show how far your art has come!
Haha - yes to both of those xD let’s play games!
I feel like this game is going to be remembered as a re-energizing of the ameritrash side of the hobby. Aeon trespass, oathsworn, sankokushin, Primal: the awakening, even Middara... all seem to have been influenced by Kingdom Death. I really like some of the ideas of KD, but it was too much stuff to manage for 2 players, hopefully some of the games I mentioned streamline the phases a bit, while keeping the best bits.
I think you are 100% right.
So True! I have high hopes for Oathsworn and Primal! Ugh... I need money for Kickstarters! LOL
I would never call this Ameri-trash, Zombicide was Ameritrash.
This is a mix RPG / wargame.
@@revel911 What? A game with theme as the primary motivator behind the design, conflict-oriented and with no qualms about introducing randomness is the definition of ameritrash. Just because zombicide is light and KD is heavy doesn't mean they aren't in that same broad design category. Of course ameritrash games can have rpg elements, but I don't know how Kingdom death fits the wargame category haha
Its not a game. It doesnt want you to have fun. It wants to destroy you until you put it back on the shelf. And then...sometimes, you hear a whisper "you never beat me"...it mocks me...i know it.
It looks like you could potentially enjoy wargames. If you enjoy the fantasy theme and building Miniatures, but you don't want to spend a lot of money on minis, then I suggest once again, Frostgrave, Rangers of Shadow deep and Ghost Archipelago. You can even play those games solo. The enemies have AI rules and your characters level up. There's also plenty of cinematic moments in those games.
Looking them up! Quack!
Love this vid! Thanks
Quack!
I seriously love the AI card system and I really am hopeful that ATO takes it and improves it...
It is the most striking part for me :) - no way they top it.
@@Quackalope Oh it might... because everything amps up as you do damage in ATO. So yes wounds happen but then more advanced AI cards get added too...
SuccessfulGeek I am hopeful that ATO will do it well but the elegance of the AI deck in KDM and the vastly unique feel of each monster is exquisite. Add the variability between even the same levels of the same monsters and manipulation of the deck... I really think it is one of the best things about KDM (one of my top 3 games)
ATO certainly has made some aspects of the combat better in my opinion. Here are a couple of examples:
1. You don't have to worry about hit locations, you have 3 gauges that you monitor instead of locations on the body. Also, taking damage isn't always a bad thing in ATO which is an interesting mental shift to make.
2. The AI system is similar but since things escalate as you damage locations new tiers of the AI get introduced into the mix. The best way I can describe the escalation process would be comparing it to an MMO Raid boss fight that has multiple stages. The more of the next stage that gets introduced the more you have to figure out how to adjust.
3. The Hard Co-Op mechanisms make it easier to more reliably hit locations. It also means that you really pay attention to your allies in combat because you set each other up for combos.
All of that being said, I personally like those 3 major adjustments they have made but I'm sure some people will still favor the gritty/random nature of the KDM fights contrasted with ATO.
Let’s just say :) - I won’t know until I play it and when I do I will be fair and honest!
I enjoy the "you'll love to hate this game" format. How about doing one for that Spirit Island back there? I bought that game to play with my dad on New Years Day. I thought "cool a co-op so we can play with each other vs against each other." Well between our AP and backtracking numerous illegal moves, it took almost 5 hours. I ended up quarterbacking us to a win and now only play that game solo. BUT I can't wait for Jagged Earth! I usually control 3 or 4 spirits on level 5 and might just take a vacation day to try and solo 6 spirits
Oh - on my list for sure!
After playing 1.6 Core and simulator (official and TTS) I really enjoy this game but it still has work to do. What I think is really needed is a 2.0 version with all fixes and replace the miniatures with card standees. It would probably drastically reduce the cost and get more people into the game if it closer to under £200. Other than that suggestion, great game and great video!
I like the game, but I really wish they had an intro version for those who aren't invested in the "art exhibit" aspect of it. Like a fifty dollar four or five enemy small box.
I think the feeling would be hard to capture - but I here you!
@@Quackalope I got everything I needed to know in five battles (four lion and the other "normal" animal). Again, the game is being primarily sold as an art installation, I get that. But give people a taste (like a gift shop print). It isn't the same as the real thing, but gives just enough flavor to reminisce over the real deal and give hunger to experience the real thing.
I think Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion demonstrated that this can be a winning strategy.
That's a bumblebee? Sorry, that's my only takeaway here.
Go film something fancy :P
When i crawled into this boardgame world, i searched for games that i could have liked. This one attracted me in an instant and i looked for it on the internet. That's when i forced myself to delete this game from my memory
Hahaa XD I understand
My favorite part of KDM? Yelling at my brother for rolling like SHIT.
This is a good part!
I had a great time listening to you and your narrative for the episode. I did do some other tasks while listening - even looking for the game to see how expensive it is. Super disappointed in it's lack of availability, but I would for sure be interested to try playing it with an experienced gamer to see if it catches fire for me.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feelings for this game. The episode is a good time.
Louis
Really glad you enjoyed it :) thanks for watching!
Love it! Thanks for the video. It's comforting to see other people strangely obsessed with this game. It's funny because I am not a fan of horror and at first that put me off of the Kickstarter. But I kept coming back to it out of some morbid sense of curiosity. Now, the twisted horror of this game has become almost a charming necessity to the experience... I can't imagine this game without all the Poots insanity sprinkled all over it. This game also got me into painting figures... and now that it one of my main hobbies almost equal to that of actually playing games.
I relate to this comment so much XD
Would love to see you cover Gloomhaven in this fashion.
I want to try this so bad
Food chain magnate is a good one for this format.
Oh! Sounds like a fun idea - I need to get a few more runs of it though to do it justice!
What you're describing, also in the other video, sounds a lot to me like a roguelike version of Dark Souls. Imagine you have to start over every time you die in DS, nuts. I love the style of this game, and one day I'm gonna get it, but just out of curiosity, couldn't you implement some sort of Save mechanics, or savepoints in case everything goes south you can continue your good campaign and eventually see the end of the story hehe. Just wondering. Like some sort of parallel universes.
I never heard of the game but now I want to play it. If it weren't for the price tag...
Honestly both pieces were some of the best content from you, KD is my joy and shame as well! Obviously traffic dependent for draws but think it would be good to do any of the top 20 or so of the bgg titles or maybe even just do a top 5 chosen patreon genres and pick one of those types... thanks for all that you do! PS for the negative which I watched first it reminds me of Hercules pointing out the faults while you are wearing their merch ;-)
Thank you! This is a new format that we are working on - so I hope the quality keeps improving as I go! We plan to cover popular games with a conversation around them already!
I always wanted to try this game but the sprues are a huge barrier to me. Unfortunately I don't have much time to build a lot of minis Just to start playing.
I relate with that :( - even if I enjoy it!
you only need to build the 4 starting survivors (each takes 5 minutes to build) and the lion (also 5 minutes) so no excuses here :D
Pro tip. Put together 4 heroes and all monsters then play. You don't need to customize your character over and over...but you need all the monsters for sure. (but can get away with lion and antelope for the first day/campaign)
I am loving this, the more research says to pull the trigger. My problem is, the limited models and stuff I can’t get now. Being a completionist will be hard for me. My daughter and son in law are Gloomhaven freaks, and I have thought that, but I always come back to this. My question is, can I at least still get expansions or am I just SoL for lack of better terms?
I would love to see a too 10 video from you. Your shelves look similar to mine other than KDM. I don't have the patience for it.
Might happen :P Quack!
If this game was simply paper sheets and cards costing like and you could buy it in it's entirety 100-200 dollars, I would buy it in a heartbeat. The darkness and tragedy of the theme of this game, along with uncovering the mystery of it's story, makes me look longingly in it's direction after rejecting it over and over. The Idea of pitting myself against the enormous and cruel puzzle that KDM has in store, makes my blood pump and my brain whir with mechanization in anticipation of pitting myself against an almost impossible foe. Being responsible for the life and death of my own ragged band of the last flicker of humanity, with darkness waiting to swallow them as fast as flipping off a light at midnight, makes me wonder if I could scrape together three months pay and just go for it. But.. this game requires a commitment that I simply cannot give.
This game will devour your time, money, and and hell space faster than the white lion will eat an unprepared and inexperienced hunter during your first play through. If I want the same kind of stakes or story, I'm just gonna throw down a hundred bucks for an role playing game and play forever in whatever world I want to, and I'd never have to spend another cent. I love miniatures, but have never really wanted to spend the time to build them, frequently just pumping them out as fast as I could, just so I could get them to the table, and consequentially has led to 1/3 of a closet filled with boxes of un-assembled minis. The complexity of adding up 3 modifiers for every roll, just makes me feel like it would take away from the elements of the game that I truly enjoy.
So, I understand Why you like it, and I'm even a bit jealous that you have the ability say yes to this horrifically beautiful monstrosity. But I've been down this road before, and have learned some hard lessons about practicality and value, and so I'll say no again.
p.s. I really like the concept for these videos. Kind of wish there was something like it for just about every topic.
Too Many Bones should definitely be a part of this discussion
On the list for sure! Quack!
Inis, Scythe, The Edge Dawnfall, Aeon's End
Added to the list!
I haven't played Kingdom death. I have played gloom haven, how does it compare to gloom haven, with all its aspects? Reason i ask is im interested in buying a new game and this seems intriguing.
What are your favorite expansion for KDM? Do you have a video on them?
We need more gameplay!?!
The only thing I hate is I never get any of the tee's as they are always sold out when I find out about them. :(
Do you live in the United States - and are you a large?
@@Quackalope I'm in the UK and i'm what you call a larger gamer. :) I take a 3XL, 2XL at a push.
I feel like I would constantly have the board set up with a solo campaign if it weren't for the massive size of the board. Apartment woes....
I did like the game a lot more than I thought I might. Dangerously much, as it's a huge and expensive game that I don't have the space or the money for atm. Or really time, I get to play a little with my friend who has gotten it but I does leave me fiending for more and yet there is no way I could fit more of this into my current situation. It's bothersome.
Looks like a cool game
Also do they ever reprint their stuff, I like to collect all the parts to a game I get into, but coming to this game this late I have missed out on some great looking expansions. :(
They do with the core gameplay items.
@@Quackalope So like the Gorn and Dung knight?
Love the game got all expansions as of 2020 hope to see more. An honestly I have see faster content come out and screw over game but sometime thing do need to flow out faster not every 3 years something new
More Kingdom Death? Even more KD:M on Patreon? Sold!
Working on a older gameplay edit now!
Quackalope ours? My wife is warming to me heading to KY soon.
Seems like Kingdom Death has an excessive amount of limited release minis and the store is often barren. Do they cycle through common minis or is everything just low production run? This is the biggest reason I havent bought in yet. I dont want to be behind on years of minis and never find anything but knockoffs on ebay.
I like your enthusiasm for the game. It is your most favorite game, but you even did not finish a single campaign?! So I strongly recommend to include the Manhunter. Such a cool fight and so many possible great rewards. One is a FA called the Transcended Masochist...
Generally said, I can agree to most of your points. Fortunately I have a good soul close nearby that builds the minis for me. So I can dive deep in the content with all expansions. It is my favorite game as well and it is the only game I play solo. Best is with 2 or 3 players of course but finding enough times to play with more players is troublesome.
I always want to play it too. Even after 13 won campaigns with nearly all received achievements except the Green Armor. I did not try it so far. Funny that so many people compare it with D&D. But I think it is not. It misses the real roleplay elements. For me it is more a very very dark Civilization (it helps if you played Call of Cthulhu before) thing and I like it so much trying to avoid all the possible catastrophies and getting my tribe out of harms way. Its a constant challenge and you cannot save all. But give it a try!
This video made me so happy 😭😁 Super amazing horrific game! When I win the giveaway your doing I will finally get it to my table and not just TTS. I am not desperate..yes I am...no I am not...wait maybe slightly desperate...don’t listen to him/me...the game has driven us mad. We will win..I mean I will win. I have seen it in my dreams...my nightmares...our nightmares...
You want Kingdom Death: Monster? Get married and have kids! That is evil madness. It’s even more expensive too!
So... I bought KDM 1.0 many years ago and it is unopened in my closet of "someday" shame. Part of that is that I just don't like the hobby element and the other part is that I missed out on the balance updates and such from the 1.5 upgrade. I tend to have a rotating conversation with myself about ditching the 1.0, getting 1.5, and going down KDM the rabbit hole, or just sell off the 1.0 and never look back. I get stuck in this process and thus it sits. Any advice? Is 1.5 worth it? This video actually got me to do my semi-monthly search for the all elusive 1.5 upgrade pack. No luck.
So the upgrade is hard to get - it does add some nice things to KDM but the 1.0 is certainly playable. I might try to sell if I were you as a 1.0 copy and buy 1.5 :) Just don't sell for less than you paid.
Love the idea of the series! Would love to play KDM but i just know i couldn't afford it and i worry some in my group would struggle with the harsh gameplay i.e. dieing haha 😂 I'd like to see Root :D
You could call it what it is, boutique horror also.
Started negative, let's end positive
Nice video again Quack. Cool to see how passionate you are about this game. Newb question coming from a gaming newb, what is the official meaning of a 'hobbyist game'?
For me - you need to put time into the arts side of the game. Like mini building or painting.
You left out one big reason: They did it.
They certainly did :)
I love & hate this game.
The game play and sense of accomplishment and the stories it creates is amazing.
The phallic, explicit content kinda drives me off sometimes.
The time commitment also is an important factor on this relationship... I wanna play it more, but I have so many other great games on my “shelves of opportunity”...
I want to hate this game, but I don’t. Not even a second.
I love the new format, though i would suggest linking the other video, as, for me at least i had to go and find it separately, and it wasn't recommended.
KDM is a crazy fun, immersive game, though it is really hard to get new people interested in.
i'm most likely going to use the giga-lion encounter to try and get some of my friends interested.
Hey! I had to get them uploaded I am linking them now! :) Thank you for the reminder!
Am I crazy if I’m thinking about getting a second copy on Black Friday and scavenge it for extra parts?