Fantastic era of rallying. Puras and Bugalski in the F2 Kit cars against the WRC cars on tarmac stages were so much fun to watch. Even better on this on-board - its just mesmerising!!
F2 and S1600 were the best wrc support classes, and the high-revving four cilinders sounded much better then the wrc's of the time and all that followed. There needs to be another class like this, rather then the boring R3/4/5 of today.
If only, right? Sadly it will never happen as ALL performance variants of small hatches are turbo as most of the public want cars more powerful than their driving capabilities can handle, rather than a direct driving experience. I'm sorry but unless you're a professionally trained driver, no one has any business driving anything with more than 300hp on the street!
@@solitaryclusterofneurons598 Well, not really. The reason that basically all current cars are turbo is not crazy people wanting more power, but simply it being a vastly superior solution to a naturally aspirated engine. I'm not sure why you're looking at some imaginary cars with power in excess of 300 bhp. What? :) A run-of-the-mill hatch or a D-segment car will normally feature an engine of 1.0, 1.2, or (in extreme cases) 1.4 or 1.5 litre, developing between 100 and 150 bhp (possibly more in those bigger ones). So, the power figure is not absurd -- it's just what is expected of a modern car, especially that its average weight keeps on climbing. But the fact that you can draw that sort of peak output (also available in a wider rev range than it used to be in older NA engines) from such minuscule combustion capacity means that those cars can boast economy levels fairly similar to the older NA 1.0- or 1.2-litres. Which is absolutely fantastic, because an NA 1.0-litre would have like 50 bhp and all you motor with it would be a really small city car, and a rather sluggish one, too :). However, all this discussion is fairly futile when you consider that the world (or at least, the richer part of it) is likely to ditch the combustion engine entirely within two decades, and so will the motorsport. Actually, I don't think there's much point in motorsport now, but that's just me.
@@Spyker8921 Well, for the reason I stated: the world is moving towards electric mobility. Which is a very good thing. Except for motorsport. Of course, the nature of the drive-train is not the only factor in motorsport: there's the traction, there's the tires, there's the suspension, there's the aero, and, most importantly, there's the judgement and the skill of the driver to coordinate those things and to choose the proper lines and speeds through corners. Fine. But a substantial part goes missing: the power band, the awereness of where your torque and your power windows in that rev band are, the gearbox and the skill of timing the gearchanges and to regulate by it the output according to surface conditions and road configuration, so as to help negotiate corners efficiently. The noises, the sights (fire spitting out of exhaust when lifting off, etc. The whole feat for the senses. Beside this all -- and yes, I know I'm weird -- for me, motorsports made sense while they served to test engineering ideas and solutions. Granted, the test ground wasn't exactly representative of normal car use, but still the materials, the technologies, and even some of the specific designs could more or less easily be reworked so as to make them applicable in normal cars. However, most of the relevant testing involved the engine, since suspension and tires in motorsport are indeed quite different, and, as a matter of fact, there's little room for further evolution there anyway. So, what are we going to be testing? Electric engines? Batteries? Sure, we can, but I doubt that process is likely to produce the same kind of spectacle as the old battles between combustion-engine manufacturers. Also, we've kind of reached a stage in public motoring, where performance is not an issue; road space and traffic safety are. The need for speed changed from a natural craving of improvement to an anachronic insanity: okay, so your road car has 300 bhp; excellent, in what way does it improve your experience of driving in an urban or semi-urban area at 50-80 kph? To keep treating the car as a toy just doesn't make sense anymore. Our grandparents had open road and underdeveloped vehicles that still left plenty to desire and to strive for, but they didn't have computers and virtual reality. For us, it's the other way around. We don't need both worlds, especially if we can only pretend we can have them both.
No ha habido coches en asfalto como esos. Efectivos,expectaculares,con un sonido increible... Encima Jesus Puras al volante.... Que buenos recuerdos y que buena epoca con tramos abarrotadisimos...
Increíble pilotaje de mi paisano Jesús, que con permiso de Jeannot Ragnotti, el mejor que recuerdo en asfalto. Fantásticas máquinas los kit-car haciendo sombra a los wrc en momentos puntuales con planteamientos técnicos distintos.
Even the stock xsara vts feels like a blast on some twisty backroads or on gravel where you can play more with lift-off oversteer and left foot braking. I can only imagine what it would be like my car was 200 kg lighter, had 100 hp more, sequential transmission, wider track width...
Well, what I miss is the top rally cars being (however remotely) linked to their respective base cars. I hate the idea of "silhouette cars", always have. I couldn't understand how people could enjoy the NASCAR or that horrible Brazilian touring car series, where cars' bodies are some generic shells and the engines (at least in the Brazilian abomination of a race series) are just one same-for-everybody powerplant model, and then you simply slap on different brand badges on those contraptions and pretend that there is some connection between them and the base cars that they're meant to represent. I thought I wouldn't live until the day that that idea would come to rallying, by far my favourite motorsport. Well, I was wrong.
Well, a lot of Group B era rally cars are in fact silhouette racers (037, Delta S4, 205 T16), and how does the current Rally1 regs allowing a space frame chassis format (which every team used) in any way makes it so much different? Silhouette racers does not mean it is "spec series" or "generic". DTM before the switch to GT3 spec is a silhouette racer series and the cars look really mean and cool in my opinions, so much better GT3 cars.
@@TheFahre Well, to me, it makes a huge difference. I've always loved the idea of rallycars -- even those of the top category -- carrying over as much of the base car into the rallycar as possible. Sure, compromises need to be made and even I am in favour of them. For example, I wasn't initially too fond of the WRC car concept, where you could design an A-8 rallycar based on a simple cheap hatchback, originally without 4WD or even a 2L engine. But there wasn't really much option for the FIA, because it was obvious that but a couple of global manufacturers would be ready to continue producing "homologation specials" like the Subaru Impreza or the Mitsubishi Lancer. At the of the day, Corolla WRC, Peugeot 206 WRC, Seat Cordoba WRC, etc., at least used the chassis of the base car (with some significant modifications), and you could easily identify them as that car. Which is not the case with the Rally1 cars -- especially the Yaris. Indeed, I'm probably in a clear minority, but I'm not an enthusiast of the Group B era. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it existed, and it certainly wrote a very interesting page in rallying history, but to me, it wasn't the golden era of rallying. I much prefer the cars of the 90's (late A-8s, early WRCs, F2s). You are right that the question of "genericalness" (... it is a word, I checked in a dictionary :) ...) is not directly linked to the choice of the sihouette car as the model for the chassis being used in a certain motorsport category. However, sadly, in Rally1 cars we see elements of both, since the transmission and the hybrid-drive unit (two very important elements for the car's performance) have been established as common for all manufacturers. When you think about it, this is pretty absurd, considering that a field of technology that the sport could play an important and useful role in developing is precisely that hybrid drive -- to remove it from the battlefield of technological competition between constructors may be sensible from the accountants' point of view, but it takes away lots of the sports former esprit.
Si no recuerdo mal ,aquí fue cuando,algunos pilotos del wrc categoría máxima entre ellos Carlos Sainz se quejaron,de la velocidad de los kitcar, que les sacaban hasta 10 seg por tramo a un wrcar,veias la clasificación y los primeros 5 o 6 coches eran kiltcars y después los wrc entremezclados con más kitcar.Y si sigo sin recordar mal este rally lo ganó Chus Puras,para mi el mejor piloto español en asfalto junto con Dani sordo hijo, y pienso que de los mejores del mundo en asfal.Y por supuesto los mejores coches de la historia del rally,kitcar junto con los gr B
El rally le gano bugalski, Chus no logro arrancar el coche en el parque cerrado del sábado cuando iba lider. La pataleta con los kit-car la monto Carlos sainz. Hay muchos vídeos del programa de canal+ de ese rallye, en los que que se puede ver a azcona luchando con mc rae entre otras cosas.
El rally le gano bugalski, Chus no logro arrancar el coche en el parque cerrado del sábado cuando iba lider. La pataleta con los kit-car la monto Carlos sainz. Hay muchos vídeos del programa de canal+ de ese rallye, en los que que se puede ver a azcona luchando con mc rae entre otras cosas.
El rally le gano bugalski, Chus no logro arrancar el coche en el parque cerrado del sábado cuando iba lider. La pataleta con los kit-car la monto Carlos sainz. Hay muchos vídeos del programa de canal+ de ese rallye, en los que que se puede ver a azcona luchando con mc rae entre otras cosas.
@@kayzenl7911 Well, I wouldn't say they dominated the events. Actually, they thrived on rather specific sort of conditions -- fairly smooth tarmac, preferably both twisty and with fairly wide road. But they were certainly a force to be reckoned with and a truly spectacular presence on a rally stage: what with the noise and the nervous point-and-accelerate type of handling. Perhaps when you say that they dominated the tarmac stages, you're leaving out the fact that there was a time window in which national championships in many European countries only allowed cars up to A-7, making the F2 cars effectively the top formula there.
Bágoas nos ollos, e o ollo do cú preto como unha tenaza... Non se pode deixar este mundo sen sentir a velocidade dun tramo cun Kitcar... Case 300Cv e lixeiro como unha pluma. Traga con todo o que lle botes... mimá. Eu quero un pra reis.
Why so? Megane Maxi's had a very similar handle to them. Seems to make perfect sense, if all you do with it is either push forward or pull back. I don't quite understand why currently you have the cylindrical handle requiring you to grip it from the sides. But that may have something to do with the fact that handbrake levers are vertical in rallycars nowadays as well -- in those times, the handbrake would normally be operated by the same kind of lever as you would have in the road-going car: horizontal, right next to the floor.
@barsorrro What are you talking about? The drivers simply pull or push a vertical gear lever as well. They don't grab it any more than with this one. They actually grab it less. The only difference is that you don't have to twist your arm like here.
@@Atte093 You do have a point. You kind of keep your wrist in the same plane of rotation when moving between the lever and the steering wheel in the current system. But, maybe the horizontal handle offered you a better purchase of the lever, so that the travel on it could be shorter -- perhaps you would have been able to punch the gears more quickly and more surely with shorter but more forceful action. You can observe on the onboards from the Rally1 cars that the gear levers used there have a pretty long travel, and while they might not require much force, their operation doesn't appear very swift or positive. Anyway, the current solution must be good enough or better if that's what's being used.
Quanto era diverso il suono rispetto a quello dei giorni d’oggi, non so quale preferisco dei due entrambi coinvolgenti ma forse quello dei bei tempi passati e più Emozionante
Enjoy even more memorable moments here: th-cam.com/video/m6zPiQc4cOo/w-d-xo.html
It would've been rad for you to upload the 45km epic from that year as it's a rather famous stage because DiRT Rally 2's both stages are sectors of it
Curiosamente los coches que vosotros mosmos lastrasteis con 40 kg en aras de los wrc.
Perfect stage, perfect car, perfect camera-positioning. These were the days!
When a 1999 2.0 rally car sounds WAY better than a 2022 Formula 1.... great video!
The kit car that just ripping through this tricky corner and can be matched with WRC cars, what an on board thrilling experience
The French kit car engines all sound fantastic.
Legendary driver, legendary car, legendary category and legendary rally. Superb onboard.
The God of tarmac with the best tarmac rally car ever. Smooth like butter 😍
This is amazing piece of history. So cool that this onboard existed
1999: el año en que los Kit Car superaron a los WRC. Y que sonido tenian!
This is perfect! 👍 We need more historic onboards on this channel.
Fantastic era of rallying. Puras and Bugalski in the F2 Kit cars against the WRC cars on tarmac stages were so much fun to watch. Even better on this on-board - its just mesmerising!!
More historic onboards please!
the 80's and 90's the best time of rallying for me and above all to see pure chus giving it their all, spectacular chus
this car, this sound, this track...is amazing!!!
F2 and S1600 were the best wrc support classes, and the high-revving four cilinders sounded much better then the wrc's of the time and all that followed.
There needs to be another class like this, rather then the boring R3/4/5 of today.
If only, right? Sadly it will never happen as ALL performance variants of small hatches are turbo as most of the public want cars more powerful than their driving capabilities can handle, rather than a direct driving experience. I'm sorry but unless you're a professionally trained driver, no one has any business driving anything with more than 300hp on the street!
@@solitaryclusterofneurons598 Well, not really. The reason that basically all current cars are turbo is not crazy people wanting more power, but simply it being a vastly superior solution to a naturally aspirated engine. I'm not sure why you're looking at some imaginary cars with power in excess of 300 bhp. What? :) A run-of-the-mill hatch or a D-segment car will normally feature an engine of 1.0, 1.2, or (in extreme cases) 1.4 or 1.5 litre, developing between 100 and 150 bhp (possibly more in those bigger ones). So, the power figure is not absurd -- it's just what is expected of a modern car, especially that its average weight keeps on climbing. But the fact that you can draw that sort of peak output (also available in a wider rev range than it used to be in older NA engines) from such minuscule combustion capacity means that those cars can boast economy levels fairly similar to the older NA 1.0- or 1.2-litres. Which is absolutely fantastic, because an NA 1.0-litre would have like 50 bhp and all you motor with it would be a really small city car, and a rather sluggish one, too :).
However, all this discussion is fairly futile when you consider that the world (or at least, the richer part of it) is likely to ditch the combustion engine entirely within two decades, and so will the motorsport. Actually, I don't think there's much point in motorsport now, but that's just me.
It can be 1.3-1.6 turbo for all I care, but the support class should be FWD only, 300-350HP and 1000kg minimum. Simple.
@@barsorrro "Actually, I don't think there's much point in motorsport now" Why do you think that?
@@Spyker8921 Well, for the reason I stated: the world is moving towards electric mobility. Which is a very good thing. Except for motorsport. Of course, the nature of the drive-train is not the only factor in motorsport: there's the traction, there's the tires, there's the suspension, there's the aero, and, most importantly, there's the judgement and the skill of the driver to coordinate those things and to choose the proper lines and speeds through corners. Fine. But a substantial part goes missing: the power band, the awereness of where your torque and your power windows in that rev band are, the gearbox and the skill of timing the gearchanges and to regulate by it the output according to surface conditions and road configuration, so as to help negotiate corners efficiently.
The noises, the sights (fire spitting out of exhaust when lifting off, etc. The whole feat for the senses.
Beside this all -- and yes, I know I'm weird -- for me, motorsports made sense while they served to test engineering ideas and solutions. Granted, the test ground wasn't exactly representative of normal car use, but still the materials, the technologies, and even some of the specific designs could more or less easily be reworked so as to make them applicable in normal cars. However, most of the relevant testing involved the engine, since suspension and tires in motorsport are indeed quite different, and, as a matter of fact, there's little room for further evolution there anyway.
So, what are we going to be testing? Electric engines? Batteries? Sure, we can, but I doubt that process is likely to produce the same kind of spectacle as the old battles between combustion-engine manufacturers.
Also, we've kind of reached a stage in public motoring, where performance is not an issue; road space and traffic safety are. The need for speed changed from a natural craving of improvement to an anachronic insanity: okay, so your road car has 300 bhp; excellent, in what way does it improve your experience of driving in an urban or semi-urban area at 50-80 kph?
To keep treating the car as a toy just doesn't make sense anymore. Our grandparents had open road and underdeveloped vehicles that still left plenty to desire and to strive for, but they didn't have computers and virtual reality. For us, it's the other way around. We don't need both worlds, especially if we can only pretend we can have them both.
It's incredible how the car goes into the corners!!!
This is pure gold!!!!
La mitica curva del restaurante de el tramo Els Angels! Historia pura. Traed de vuelta el WRC a la costa Brava porfavor!
Wonderfull rally race performance 👍💯🇦🇷
Onboard view are emotion, i want more this.
Onboard. No music. Wish there was Telemetry but that may not be possible but thanks WRC thank you 🥺
F2 kit cars are the best rally cars ever made, fite me
On asphalt, yes. On gravel they're useless, as one would expect.
@@JohnDaubSuperfan369 duh, goes without saying
Love this camera position. Better than on the front
Que grande Chus Puras con el Citroën, grandes momentos nos regalo y que sonido más chulo 🤩👍😎🔝💯
No ha habido coches en asfalto como esos. Efectivos,expectaculares,con un sonido increible... Encima Jesus Puras al volante.... Que buenos recuerdos y que buena epoca con tramos abarrotadisimos...
Increíble, una pena Citroën no seguir hasta hoy en la categoría más alta del Wrc Rally1. Video estupendo de bueno, gracias por compartir
I loved every single second of this video
Driving skill is insane,perfect🔥
Despite being FWD, the Xsara was lightning fast underdog even beating most top class 4WD cars.
Please… more of this… we need that… 306, Impreza, xsara, corolla…
Increíble pilotaje de mi paisano Jesús, que con permiso de Jeannot Ragnotti, el mejor que recuerdo en asfalto. Fantásticas máquinas los kit-car haciendo sombra a los wrc en momentos puntuales con planteamientos técnicos distintos.
love this!best kit-car ever made❤️❤️
I'd love to get more historic onboards on WRC social media channels, this is pure rallying!
this is the sickest drive I've witnessed!
Esto es lo que me gusta ver. Velocidad, excelente conducción y el sonido del motor.
What a perfect car. Brilliant Xsara.
More exciting in tarmac than the current Rally2/ R5 cars...change my mind :)
Bruh this car is so fast. The acceleration is crazy. And the engine sounds like those f1 engines lol.
Should have posted Phillipe Bulkaski's onboard
uoh!! chus puras is a legend 🚗💅
we want kitcars again in the wrc, please FIA!!
you should post some bugalski onboards if you have them too that would be amazing
Impressive cornering speed for such an old rally car :)
Con esa montura preparada por piedrafita sport, y las manos de Chus,eso era lo que se llama volar
Old good days 👌
Increíble. Lo mejor. ❤❤❤
AMAZZING WOOOOW 😱😱
ブガルスキー憧れのドライバーです
More of these videos please 😍
Even the stock xsara vts feels like a blast on some twisty backroads or on gravel where you can play more with lift-off oversteer and left foot braking. I can only imagine what it would be like my car was 200 kg lighter, had 100 hp more, sequential transmission, wider track width...
I miss when the car interiors looked more like road cars' interiors but w some heavy modifications
Well, what I miss is the top rally cars being (however remotely) linked to their respective base cars. I hate the idea of "silhouette cars", always have. I couldn't understand how people could enjoy the NASCAR or that horrible Brazilian touring car series, where cars' bodies are some generic shells and the engines (at least in the Brazilian abomination of a race series) are just one same-for-everybody powerplant model, and then you simply slap on different brand badges on those contraptions and pretend that there is some connection between them and the base cars that they're meant to represent. I thought I wouldn't live until the day that that idea would come to rallying, by far my favourite motorsport. Well, I was wrong.
Well, a lot of Group B era rally cars are in fact silhouette racers (037, Delta S4, 205 T16), and how does the current Rally1 regs allowing a space frame chassis format (which every team used) in any way makes it so much different? Silhouette racers does not mean it is "spec series" or "generic". DTM before the switch to GT3 spec is a silhouette racer series and the cars look really mean and cool in my opinions, so much better GT3 cars.
@@TheFahre Well, to me, it makes a huge difference. I've always loved the idea of rallycars -- even those of the top category -- carrying over as much of the base car into the rallycar as possible. Sure, compromises need to be made and even I am in favour of them. For example, I wasn't initially too fond of the WRC car concept, where you could design an A-8 rallycar based on a simple cheap hatchback, originally without 4WD or even a 2L engine. But there wasn't really much option for the FIA, because it was obvious that but a couple of global manufacturers would be ready to continue producing "homologation specials" like the Subaru Impreza or the Mitsubishi Lancer. At the of the day, Corolla WRC, Peugeot 206 WRC, Seat Cordoba WRC, etc., at least used the chassis of the base car (with some significant modifications), and you could easily identify them as that car. Which is not the case with the Rally1 cars -- especially the Yaris.
Indeed, I'm probably in a clear minority, but I'm not an enthusiast of the Group B era. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it existed, and it certainly wrote a very interesting page in rallying history, but to me, it wasn't the golden era of rallying. I much prefer the cars of the 90's (late A-8s, early WRCs, F2s).
You are right that the question of "genericalness" (... it is a word, I checked in a dictionary :) ...) is not directly linked to the choice of the sihouette car as the model for the chassis being used in a certain motorsport category. However, sadly, in Rally1 cars we see elements of both, since the transmission and the hybrid-drive unit (two very important elements for the car's performance) have been established as common for all manufacturers. When you think about it, this is pretty absurd, considering that a field of technology that the sport could play an important and useful role in developing is precisely that hybrid drive -- to remove it from the battlefield of technological competition between constructors may be sensible from the accountants' point of view, but it takes away lots of the sports former esprit.
Si no recuerdo mal ,aquí fue cuando,algunos pilotos del wrc categoría máxima entre ellos Carlos Sainz se quejaron,de la velocidad de los kitcar, que les sacaban hasta 10 seg por tramo a un wrcar,veias la clasificación y los primeros 5 o 6 coches eran kiltcars y después los wrc entremezclados con más kitcar.Y si sigo sin recordar mal este rally lo ganó Chus Puras,para mi el mejor piloto español en asfalto junto con Dani sordo hijo, y pienso que de los mejores del mundo en asfal.Y por supuesto los mejores coches de la historia del rally,kitcar junto con los gr B
Ese rally lo ganó Bugalski, Chus se retiró.
El rally le gano bugalski, Chus no logro arrancar el coche en el parque cerrado del sábado cuando iba lider. La pataleta con los kit-car la monto Carlos sainz. Hay muchos vídeos del programa de canal+ de ese rallye, en los que que se puede ver a azcona luchando con mc rae entre otras cosas.
El rally le gano bugalski, Chus no logro arrancar el coche en el parque cerrado del sábado cuando iba lider. La pataleta con los kit-car la monto Carlos sainz. Hay muchos vídeos del programa de canal+ de ese rallye, en los que que se puede ver a azcona luchando con mc rae entre otras cosas.
El rally le gano bugalski, Chus no logro arrancar el coche en el parque cerrado del sábado cuando iba lider. La pataleta con los kit-car la monto Carlos sainz. Hay muchos vídeos del programa de canal+ de ese rallye, en los que que se puede ver a azcona luchando con mc rae entre otras cosas.
Great video
Bring back those cars please!
Grande Chus Puras.
He should have won that rally, shame the ecu wasn't working on the second day
So satisfying
Sacré voiture et sacré pilote.!
Awesome 😎
Intense
Old GOLD
More video like this !
Puras es Dios.
Only xsara kit car best Looking car on the world
Nah, for me is Seat Ibiza.
This is the saddest part about the new electric engines. :(
Another tarmac specialist
Puras es Dios
Voy a subir este video en mi canal y me boy a suscribir a este canal
Those front tires must be on fire!
Els Angels
Brutal el chato
Was this the time where the F2 kit cars dominated Rallye Catalunya?
yes with Bugalski winner
Well F
Kit cars dominated every tarmac rally for years. They finally prevailed at this one but they were really competitive on any wet or dry stages
@@kayzenl7911 not at rally San Remo
@@kayzenl7911 Well, I wouldn't say they dominated the events. Actually, they thrived on rather specific sort of conditions -- fairly smooth tarmac, preferably both twisty and with fairly wide road. But they were certainly a force to be reckoned with and a truly spectacular presence on a rally stage: what with the noise and the nervous point-and-accelerate type of handling. Perhaps when you say that they dominated the tarmac stages, you're leaving out the fact that there was a time window in which national championships in many European countries only allowed cars up to A-7, making the F2 cars effectively the top formula there.
N/a engine ❤💛🧡💚🤎💜🤍🤎🖤💙
The handling is very Sharp,like easy to pass every corner
make this camera angle mandatory by all international law.
Bágoas nos ollos, e o ollo do cú preto como unha tenaza...
Non se pode deixar este mundo sen sentir a velocidade dun tramo cun Kitcar...
Case 300Cv e lixeiro como unha pluma. Traga con todo o que lle botes... mimá. Eu quero un pra reis.
❤
Strange wheel grip. But seems to be effective.
When FWDs ruled the trails
👍👍👍
Es Costa Brava?
Superior car 😤
And they said FWD cars are boring 😏
Presque 25 ans pour que sorte une caméra embarquée potable d'une Xsara kit car...
Cualquier tiempo pasado fue mejor..
Cuando Citroën hacia bien los coches🤔
It really looks like RBR
Jajajajaj 🤩🤩
Why does he sit so much on the limiter?
Kit cars became too tarmac oriented.
El chato Maxxx atackkk
The shifter knob looks really weird
Why so? Megane Maxi's had a very similar handle to them. Seems to make perfect sense, if all you do with it is either push forward or pull back. I don't quite understand why currently you have the cylindrical handle requiring you to grip it from the sides. But that may have something to do with the fact that handbrake levers are vertical in rallycars nowadays as well -- in those times, the handbrake would normally be operated by the same kind of lever as you would have in the road-going car: horizontal, right next to the floor.
@barsorrro What are you talking about? The drivers simply pull or push a vertical gear lever as well. They don't grab it any more than with this one. They actually grab it less. The only difference is that you don't have to twist your arm like here.
@@Atte093 You do have a point. You kind of keep your wrist in the same plane of rotation when moving between the lever and the steering wheel in the current system. But, maybe the horizontal handle offered you a better purchase of the lever, so that the travel on it could be shorter -- perhaps you would have been able to punch the gears more quickly and more surely with shorter but more forceful action. You can observe on the onboards from the Rally1 cars that the gear levers used there have a pretty long travel, and while they might not require much force, their operation doesn't appear very swift or positive. Anyway, the current solution must be good enough or better if that's what's being used.
Quanto era diverso il suono rispetto a quello dei giorni d’oggi, non so quale preferisco dei due entrambi coinvolgenti ma forse quello dei bei tempi passati e più Emozionante
Un buen coche que prohibieron por ser mas rapidos que los wrc en aquella época 😂😂😂😂asi se corre en casita ✌🏼