The DAILY gets headers | Ram 1500 5.7 HEMI Shorty header install
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- The daily ram 1500 gets new headers from BBK, Old manifolds are out and I throw in some new Headers for the Daily. BBK Ceramic coated shorty headers for 2015 ram 1500 5.7 HEMI.
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thanks for the video, good to see how it's done and I appreciate the description on how it was done!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much! I was stuck with the dipstick tube, but see you did it without removing it!
Glad it helped
Sounds awesome!! Think I'm going to do this modification too. Need to change the manifolds anyways. Thanks for the knowledge 👍👍
Thank you for doing this to your daily! Every other video saying “You need to do this first!”
I didn't have to do the first things you said, I was able to take off my heatshield fairly easy. That's when I noticed I had a snapped bolt.
Ya I was going to do this but I am more convinced to do this sooner then later as I hear bolts break easier the more miles u have
End of this month lol can’t wait
Thanks for honest review. I have stock manifold on my 4WD. It sounds identical. Respect FL boy shit
I have a kid in the neighborhood that runs up and down the road all hours of the night...sounds awesome lol
Probably me
Looking into buying some some shortys because I’ve been dealing with a manifold leak for way to long now. Hoping my dealer will cover the fix for now if not I’ll be ordering BBk Coates shortys for sure
Nice dude!!! I have a 2018 RamSport 5.7 liter
It’s definitely worth it. Stock ones always break studs stainless ones won’t
Yeah did that on my classic 19,made my muffler delete quiet
Yeah that’s normal apparently, especially at lower rpms. It’s when you open it up that it gets really loud.
Thanks for the quick reply.
I have a 2014 ram 1500 hemi express. I did a muffler and mid pipe delete, and put the bank shorty headers on. Before the headers, I felt like the truck was very loud and deep and throaty, and after putting them on it quieted down the truck significantly, which was and still is disappointing. Thanks for the video, feels better to not be the only one who has these on and had that happen to lol
Same here! Commented above about it, I wonder why it makes it so much quieter?
Shoulda went with Long Tube headers
Just bought the bbk shorty headers! Got them because my stock manifolds have a leak anyways so I thought might as well. I’m getting a cam and intake soon anyways.
Nice vid thanks for the info. I have a 2007 dodge ram and was thinking about this upgrade with a dual exhaust system since mine is single.
I have the exact same truck and thinking about doing the exact same thing lol. Just had to replace the mds solenoids today under the intake manifold. While doing that I was looking down at the exhaust manifolds and started thinking about some headers.
I got BBK ceramic shorties on my 2015 with x pipe true dual super turbo magnaflow exhaust...it sounds real nice
I was considering doing true duals, maybe down the road.
@@DAPerform if you just have a stock hemi it's not really worth the money, unless you have something under the hood too. I got a knN black hawk cold air intake , headers, and cammed, so I kind of need the exhaust set up to let it breath . But a true dual set up like mine will run you around 1200 , if your stock you can get a nice sound for like 350
@@johnnyutahhh4563 very true like I said i was considering but it’s a lot of money to mod a hemi. I’ll just put the money into the camaro
Did you get a small ticking noise when accelerating after installing ?
The headers made the idle louder. Sounds a lot better tho
Spring project for me and pretty sure two broken bolts each side - Yipee! 2017
Have fun maybe you’ll be lucky like I was and just the head broke off and not the stud in the cylinder head
It probably isn’t necessary as long as you’re careful but I always liked tying off the steering wheel with the seat belt anytime I remove a steering shaft to prevent any clock spring damage
Yeah thats definitely a caution I had I didn’t show it but I zip tied it to under the seat just in case
@@DAPerform ohh okay good deal! Merry Christmas !
It's quieter most likely because one (or both) of your cast iron exhaust manifolds had a leak. They're prone to warping which causes the bolts to snap when they warp too much. You were probably getting some noise through the side of the manifolds before. Same if you noticed some ticking on a cold start up.
Ive Installed jba shorties on these trucks, and the sound out of tailpipe is cleaner but quieter than stock manifolds. Only thing louder is valvetrain noise
Great Review!!!! I need to get caught up, you have been busy.
great video!
500-600$ Canadian to get a shop to put these on in my area so I appreciate this video
You got it bud, just have patience and some swivel headed ratchet wrenches and you’ll be set
Hopefully, you don't have any leaks. My first set of BBK shorty headers developed a pin hole leak (after 3 months)near a collector on the driverside. BBK sent replacements headers and then fast forward 4 months same thing happened on the same side. BBK hasn't replied to my multiple emails and videos of the leak. Now I'm looking to go to hooker manifolds or long tubes.
Oh wow, there’s a lot of mixed reviews but I had zero issues with me, but the truck is gone so hopefully the next owner has luck with them
This a good video bro 💯
Thanks a lot man!
Man your lucky with those bolts usually like you said three or four are broken
Good zap with a nut and the welder and they’ll come right out. Somehow that one bolt was hand tight lol
Ended up putting on jba shorties on my ram a few years back. Went with the ss stage 8 fasteners to ensure no studs were breaking again. Agree that exhaust tone seems cleaner but did lose some of that hemi pop. However, valvetrain noise certainly increased
The valvetrain boise increased because the headers are not as thick as the factory manifolds
Thanks for the video
No problem, glad you enjoyed it!
Great video im looking to install shorty's on my ram how are the bbk's ? I was thinking about getting them or jba's
Bbk are doing great on my ram
Longtubes on the Challenger/Charger are even worse. I do them all the time. Have to remove both engine mounts and support the engine. I have a combination of extensions and swivels to get the center upper bolts off. Huge PIA. People complain about my labor rate at first, then they attempt them themselves and either don't complete it or end up quth leaks and want me to fix it. I still charge the same price anyways lol.
The best reason to swap manyfold is because the stock ones warp and they break bolts and you have to machine em before reinstalling and if not, the bolts break in the same month and you have to do the job again and again and again and again :0)
Sweet video ! Huge help. I'm debating the bbk headers or getting my
Stock manifolds milled flat and getting better bolts...Any issues with burning any wires or hoses ? How have the headers held up to this point ?
All good no issues with anything getting too hot. The ceramic coated BBK headers are the go to
@@DAPerform awesome thanks ! I i got the damn chrome ones the ceramic weren't manufactured anymore from what i was told at American trucks so i was forced to get the chrome ones
I have read some long term comments on the JBA and BBK shortys that develop cracked welds. Which is better than constantly fixing broken bolts but still a pain. AFE has a better designed shorty header than BBK and JBA but cost alot more. I plan to install shortys just because of the manifold bolts breaking.
Just depends on why brand you prefer I love the bbk and have no issues with them all are proven manifolds
Do you have afe shorties on your truck? If so how do you like them?
@@DAPerform Mine cracked badly
@@Dan-gj1hz which brand?
@@acort10 bbk
Should have went longtubes
I have to replace my stock headers, have broken bolt and exhaust leak. Goes away after start up and truck warmed up to temp
Nice🔥
Thx for sharing 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching!
Still need a tune with it to get best gain plus I recommend long tube to find best scavenging
I had long tubes and a tune on my last ram with a 6speed trans and the 8speed with shorty headers is still quicker lol. But yes you are correct with a tune would definitely maximize the power output with the headers
I'm thinking of adding the shorty header but keeping everything else stock to gain torque in the 2000 to 4500 range for towing my Travel Trailer. From what I've seen, you get ~20 lbs increase in torque across this RPM range. Does anyone have experience on how this helps with towing. Also I like that it doesn't make make the truck louder.
Torque increase will help with towing. It might be a little louder with factory exhaust but nothing drastic
Clean man I got my heaters installed but my oil dip stick disappeared any tips on why ?
lol you might want to go back to where you got them installed and ask them
What year and trim model is that. I love that front end
2015 ram 1500 Laramie with the limited grill color matched
Glad to see someone else with a Ram and a 2nd Gen Camaro.
I’ve got the JBA’s on mine and, in my opinion, this really wasn’t worth it. Definitely don’t use the gaskets provided and buy some OEM replacements to use. My truck was noticeably quieter after the install, and the tone was slightly... smoother? At least they look good.
That’s awesome I’ve got a 14’ ram, 67 trans am, and an 81’ trans am!
That’s crazy I put some long tube JBA’s on my 14 and she rips
I don't think 3/4 of us put shorties on for "performance"....I did it because it was the second time I was about to do broken manifold bolts on my '09.
Any problems with the stock bbk bolts that you used ? I did the same today took about 9 hrs , 2 bolts busted flush to the block lol . That dip stick is a pain in the ass still not just right . Would like to know of any issues or ? 2017 ram 1500 bighorn .
Bbk bolts I used worked fine, I didn’t take off the dip stick but I did bend it a little to clear the header
I picked up a 2022 and I am thinking about putting headers on. Curious about your experience with either exhaust leaks or build quality at this point?
Can’t complain about either
Are you having any heat issues to other components under the hood how hot do they get ?
Maybe a little hotter but not much difference with the coated headers, I don’t know how exactly hot they get
I just got some shorty headers installed on my 2014 ram the main reason I got it done is cause of the exhaust manifold bolts breaking this is 2nd time I did a little research and they said only way to get rid of problem is upgrading to headers
Fixing the the broken studs is one thing but with headers you eliminate them breaking again and I tell you I’m not going to spend hours fixing bolts just to put the factory logs back for it to happen again lol. I sleep much better at night now lol
@@DAPerform yea thats the main reason I upgraded to headers also I wasn't gonna fix studs and it happen a 3rd time I hope it works out there not wrapped or ceramic coated
@@jeffe4638 I had arh long tubes on my old truck and had no corrosion issues, the bbk’s I got are coated. A lot of bad reviews for the incoated ones for some reason. Make sure the flange surface is completely flat, get a straight edge and some feeler gauges and see if you have any gaps
Same exact reason I put shorties on my 2015 I had a broken back left bolt, the one that always breaks. I bought ARP header bolts , cost 60$ just for the bolts but there the best, worth it to never break a bolt again
@@jeffe4638 you should of spent the extra 100 or so to get ceramic coated , they dont rust like regular ones do they take they heat wayy better. Down the road if not wrapped or coated they will rust or crack. Hopefully not for you
Bringing in my 20 Ram Limited to the shop today 20 k miles and has a loud tik at start up..im assuming exhaust manifold leak.
Good chance it is, I’m not too sure how the 5th gen rams are with the broken manifold bolts
Hey brother, good job, any updates on the headers , how are they working so far , trying to get some reviews, I want to do the same on my 2012 Laramie
Unfortunately I don’t know. Sold the truck a few years ago
I have 2004 hemi with a flow master super 10 ,if a put those bbk shorties will it sound louder or probably the same ?
Those headers might not fit make sure to get the correct set for your application, it could possibly make it quieter at cruising and louder under load
I think you have a squirrel 🐿️😂
I ordered the Kooks 304 stainless steel shorty headers what's your opinion on Kooks?
Haven’t personally had any kooks headers but I’ve heard good and bad things from every major brand, my old 09 ram had arh headers and they fit perfectly but were also $1400
Just to give you a perspective in the latest video we posted the g8 got eBay headers and they fit better than the name brand ones, most products are made by 3-5 companies and then just rebranded and sold again
With bolts breaking off. Would you notice a visible carbon build up from an exhaust leak?
Generally speaking yes you would definitely see some suit around the area that had broken bolts
Do you think switching to headers would help with the common problem of bolts breaking on the oem manifolds?
Whether you swap to headers or not the hardware just needs to be changed. There is some theory behind the log style manifold causing additional stress on the rear most bolts but who actually knows. If your changing the bolts I would change the to headers while I’m in there
Hey..... to prevent snapping bolts....
Has anyone tried that heater...
That turns the bolts glowing red..
Should prevent snapping if you first heat them.up...
Thoughts???
It would work if you had the access the bolts snap over time not when you try to take them out
Was there a noticeable weight difference between the stock cast iron and headers?
Maybe 5lbs difference. The stock manifolds are pretty compact
Hey man did you have issues with the headers sealing at the collector/y-pipe joint? I tried using permatex muffler sealant to keep it from leaking. And it lasted a few months but I can still here a slight exhaust leak on acceleration.
I loosened the y pipe up so when I tightened the collector’s it would pull them tight, I didn’t have any leaks that I could hear
@@DAPerform yeah I had too long of bolts so I put shorter ones on then use a nut and lock washer mine sealed up fine now. I just hear more valve train chatter now lol
@@midnightt6991 the bolts that came with my kit came with nuts washers and the bolts so they threaded in stock y pipe and then I used the washers and nuts on the back for more security
@@midnightt6991 it takes some getting used to I always got paranoid a lifter was failing but it was jus Thor al valve train noises
@@DAPerform yeah thats what i come to think lol
Did the gaskets hold up or did you have to buy srt gaskets? Also what bolts did you use? The ones included or grade 8?
Threw away the gasket that came with them as everyone should. And used the bolts that came with them
Did you ever get it dyno tested after the install? I'm interested in seeing if you got any gains after this. I'll be doing a 93 Oct tune through diablo with this and a k/n Cai. You recommend?
S&B air intake was dyno tested and makes the most hp gain over any other air intake. I never dyno’d the truck. For the tune go through that Greene at Greene racing. You won’t be disappointed
Go for long tube headers instead, the shorter ones don’t give as much gains
@@southmadethis7767 they like 2k
@@southmadethis7767 u forgot to mention they 3x more expensive. So if u got 2k$ go for long tubes.. rest of us $700 dollar headers is good enough
Did you have to take out the bottom bolt on the dipstick tube? I didnt see in the video if you had to. If so how did u get to the bolt w the motor mount in the way.
I ended up not having to take that bolt out of the dipstick tube on the bottom I was able to snake the manifold through it and luckily there was barely enough room otherwise I’d have to take that mount off
@@DAPerform good deal, hopefully mine will be the same. Thanks bud.
@@strokin347 yeah hopefully!
Did yours come with a heat shield? I just got mine in. I ordered the titanium ceramic ones and mine came with a heat shield. Looks like it would go over the dip stick??
Never had a heat shield with mine
Hey bro I got 2013 ram 5.7 hemi was debating weather to throw on longs or shorties it’s kinda of my daily. Just wanted an honest opinion what you think?
Really depends on what you want out of your truck
Did you have to modify the dipstick at all? I'm having a real hard time getting the drivers side to go in. Literally at the point I'm wondering if my dipstick is not factory because I can't get the new header behind the tube.
I had to gently bend the dipstick to get it to clear. Just be careful and you’ll get it
Did the BBK come with the bolts? Are they the aluminum like the oem parts?
Oem bolts are definitely not aluminum but they come with hardware yes
Do you have a problem with them being to close to the valve cover? Sense the valve cover is plastic?
No problem at all
by hooking up directly to the y pipe does that prevent drone in the passenger compartment when cruising on highways?
I had a carven muffler as well as the headers and I didn’t notice any difference, it was quieter while driving but louder under wot
@@DAPerform thanks
Will unhooking the steering shaft mess with your trucks steering wheel alignment?
Not if you put it back in the same place 👌🏼
Does it makes any difference in sound..?i have a couple broken manifold bolts on my passenger side and was planning of just adding shorty headers for a little performance but i dont any noice gain either.
Made it quieter that’s about it. The butt dyno didn’t notice any difference
My 2016 is due. Broken bolts on both sides twice now. Would it have been easier if you used studs instead of bolts?
Not necessarily, the headers had slots in them to hang on the heads while you get the red of the bolts in, there were 2 or 3 that were a super pain in the ass but I was able to get to them with a flexible head ratchet wrench
@@DAPerform Thanks for the quick reply. Great to the point video by the way.
@@mikemartinez842 thanks a lot!
Did the header come with gaskets or did you use factory gaskets?
They came with gaskets but I used 6.1l hemi gaskets
Man i can't get the heat shield off with this damn dipstick in the way! did disconnecting the steering give you more play to bend the dip stick back even further to get the shield and manifold out??
Disconnected the steering and slightly bent the dipstick it’s a tight squeeze
@@DAPerform thanks. did you take the heat shield out to the right or to the left and up the engine bay?
@@derekp.1516 I can’t recall
Any update on them? I had a friend tell me to heat wrap them so nothing around gets burnt or plastic getting melted.. Nothing like that happened over the 2-3 yrs having them installed?
No need for heat wrap is everything is out of the way
I have a 16’ Rebel with the ticking noise. I’m 100% sure it’s my manifolds, would upgrading to these help out ?
You would be forced to fix the broken bolts if that’s the cause of the ticking
Thanks you sir
how are holding, just order some thanks for vid
I don’t have the truck anymore but I’m sure they are doing just fine
How is performance ? Is there a slight gain in power with the shorty's ? Just bought a 2016 ram 5.7
My butt dyno couldn’t tell a difference
I have a 2011 Ram with the Carven Progressive as well. I have an aftermarket y collector and gutted the cats and deleted rear resonators, it sounds really good, quite loud especially after gutting the cats. I’m wondering how much better it would sound with bbk shorty’s instead of the stock manifolds??
I would still guess it would be a touch quieter. I think the log manifolds really congest the engine
@@DAPerform ok thank you for the input I really appreciate it. Maybe the log style manifolds will stay on perhaps
@@jasonkaiser1292 when i did the swap I barley noticed a difference just an overall better sound
@@DAPerform I’m wanting a deeper and throatier note to my exhaust sound. Just hoping bbk shorty’s would help? What do mean when you say better overall sound?
@@jasonkaiser1292 The headers gave it a clean and crisp note to the exhaust.
Have a 2017 ram 5.7 hemi but it's got the good o hemi tick going mechanic said it would be $400 to $700 to fix so I'm thinking about just buying headers and installing them,what's yalls thoughts,yay or nay
It’s not a hard job just take your time get the correct gaskets and make sure the headers are flat before you install them
Would this work for single cab as well ? For a 2012
As long as it’s a 5.7
I have a 2009 ram and did u put a Longtube or shorty header and what are the problems u faced?
Shortys on this truck my old 09 I did long tubes. No problems at all just buy good oem gaskets for the 6.1l hemi and you’ll be good to go
Will these headers work on my 2014 ram 1500 with the 5.7 hemi
They should
Hey doing same install on 13 ram 1500 howd you get to the bottom bolts??
With lots of difficulty and paitence
Yeah, it doesn’t seem like the sound changed much. You still running the stock exhaust with it?
Just a carven bolt in muffler, it’s definitely a deeper note when you get on it or when it’s a cold start
@@DAPerform I’m actually running a carven competitor directly muffler replace, how do you think it’ll sound if I get these headers because I have been looking at them on American trucks.com, let me know what you think.
Thank you
@@johnguzman5787 might be a tiny bit louder but should sound the same, the competitor and progressive are very similar
The shorties wont make it louder, but deeper. Like he said when you get on it. They made my truck quicker off the mark
@@johnnyutahhh4563 good, that’s also what I was looking to improve on the low end torque at least for now until I install the comp cams nsr cam
Can you pass smog with long tube headers I have a rt 2014 ram want to put some
I’m sure you could if you had catalytic converters
So doing this wouldnt be worth mitigating the flexing of the oem thicker material manifolds ?
Swapping the manifolds helps prevent the bolts from snapping like they are known for doing with the factory manifolds
How have those BBK headers held out for you? I’ve heard very mixed reviews on their quality. What brand gaskets did you use?
Oem 6.1l hemi gaskets
Do you have to tune it once you install shorty headers? 🤔
No tuning required
I have heard the headers get too hot and the weld cracks and you are back to replacing? Can you address this???
I’ve only heard of this issue on the non coated headers
I thought your supposed to wrap them because of how hot they get and can destroy any plastic or rubber parts that are close.
Up to personal preference, the headers I have are ceramic coated l, typically when you wrap exhaust over time it’s get moisture in the wrap and corrodes the metal
Any idea where else to get the ones you got? The link doesn't seem to be working
Not sure the p/n should be the same
Do u need a tune when putting these on?
I never had one and it ran fine. it would definitely help to get one though
How have those headers been holding up? Thinking about installing in my truck
Don’t have the truck anymore. But they held up for 10k no problem
Don’t have the truck anymore. But they held up for 10k no problem
Did you have to program it after this did it throw a code??
Nope no tuning required for shorty headers, I’m sure you would have a greater power gain if you did though
Was this headers only with stock exhaust?
I’m not modification was the carven muffler
Does anyone know if these will fit the 4.7 too?
I don’t think so I think they are limited to the 5.7 hemi
What studs did you use for the brackets that bolted to the manifolds?
Are you referring to the factory heat shields ?
No, the dipstick tube
@@dbstotty I remember correctly I just used one of the factory manifold studs
@@DAPerform thanks
So, whatever happened with the dipstick issue? Did you end up removing that 2nd bolt?
Nope just had to slightly manipulate the dipstick to get them to fit
Cool. Thanks for the vid. Gave me a little confidence to go ahead and do my truck
@@johnramsey6604 Awesome, good luck and have patience
Did you get a small ticking noise while driving from the headers after install ?
I was able to hear the valvetrain more because the headers are thinner material than the stock cast manifolds
@@DAPerform don't notice it at idle or if I'm just cruising mainly just when I accelerate and gets faster as I accelerate. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one and that it wasn't an exhaust leak
@@Jepphhh it does sound similar to an exhaust leak but I checked multiple times and had zero leaks, the hemis just have a noisy valve train from the get go
Do you still have these installed? How have they treated you
I had no issues with them when I had the truck
Are you running a stock exhaust with the headers
Carven progressive muffler
👏
Did you have to do any modifications?
None at all