People seem to be vastly overestimating how hard shatterdive and well skating is. Like it's 3 buttons pressed quickly. And it's an insanely useful skill, everywhere in the game.
"9/10 people still manage to suck balls at it" right... so here's a much harder way to do it that will likely hold up a team for much longer because 1 person cant get the steps right.
Sidezz video in recommended, splendid, time to watch it. Not even 10 seconds in an Sidezz has said that 9/10 people suck absolute balls. This is exactly what I came for. 10/10.
yes you can, I do it when I play controller on pc occasionally, I actually tried it specifically because I wanted to see if I should make a disclaimer saying it's just flat out not possible on the sticks
Sure, this saves time for the better players that want to sit afk while waiting, but trust me, the people who can't harness their gamer prowess enough to chain together 6 easy junps onto latge platforms are NOT going to have the thumbskill, time nor patience to learn to skate. Not meant as a diss to day job daddies or casual players, but if you can't remember a couple telegraphed moving platforms, chances are you're not spending 2 of your 10 weekly hours learning a skating tech that only really impacts the grimiest of basement goblins.
There are better games like this. Bungue are a bunch on lazy fat idiots. They copy the vest buts out of all games. You have to have the brain of a bug to not realise this game isn't original whatsoever. It's addictive but definitely not original or the best in any shape or form.
Trust, it's not. It has a lot of application all through the game and it's really not that hard to learn. It might take a little bit of time to get the timing down originally, but then it's muscle memory that you pick up very quickly. Then once you can do one of them, it's like a 5 min job to learn the other just because it's different button placement.
Shatter skate took me about 30 minutes to learn consistently. Well skate is a bit harder on controller since it's two buttons for super by default. But you could map super to one button and then it's exactly the same as shatter.
@@default2907 lol, yeah, I had some clan mates take me through my first one in d1 and only one, and being a noob, I fell for the standing in front of it nor knowing what was coming. Knocked me right in to D2 lol
@@lowrld9716 shatterskating yes most definitely. Wellskate not as easy unless you change your binds to have your super activate with a single button press
I think all the subclasses should have unique ways of traversing parkour sections. Stasis can create platforms, strand will be able to use grapples, arc has increased speed and jumps. How cool would it be if void could have like a "teleport to grenade" ability or solar could explosive jump
Thanks for putting this together. At first I was overwhelmed and like many of the commenters I was thinking I'd stick to doing it normally! But this actually encouraged me to learn well and shatter skating. So after watching another few vids on that and breaking down your well skating steps, I'm confident I'll be able to do it in KF after lots of practice at Morgeth bridge. The height and momentum from the early glide and later dash boosts really makes a difference. Thanks again!
What do you mean by glide out of skate and drop glide? Am I well skating wrong? When I wellskate I press jump once and super at the same time after my heavy. Do I need to double tap jump immediately while holding grenade after that? Or do I hold jump until my heat rises procs and then let go of my jump? And then glide pump is just double tapping jump and then letting go of it?
gotta drop the glide immediately so your inputs would be like (jump -> dash -> jump -> dash) then start tapping your glide on and off with about a 1-2 second gap between the pumps
I have tried that jump at 4:21 so many times copying your every move and i get so close, but everytime i just dont get enough height and barely come up short. No idea whats wrong i have stomp-ee, 100 mobilty, eager edge.
you can hold W, just space your jumps out more and you should manage. if you jump at the peak of the jump both times, you'll lose too much height on the way there
You mentioned it slightly in the video, but just for confirmation, when doing the skip that doesn't load in the barrier, the door to the secret chest will still be there right? So if a team want's to go for the chest you'll need to stand on the two plates regardless?
you just sword fly, it's a simple thing and I guess my thought process was that it wasn't necessary to mention since these have more advanced techniques involved
im on transversive steps most of the time, for king's fall I often switch over to lunafactions. other content where I know i might be spamming rifts more, i'll switch to starfire protocol
i'm preferential to them personally but I think it's possible without them. worst case scenario you pull them from collections. it needs to be mentioned I haven't actually tried without stompees
The warlock one can also very easily be done with daybreak + heat rises + icaris dash + starfire protocol. Just use super to get across main area, consuming a grenade near the end. Then inch your way around and wait for 2 grenades and get across spamming dashes
lion rampants and a sword lol thundercrash if you really need it thats nothing new titans have been able to skate almost infinite distances for years the only thing that stops them is the amount of sword ammo they have
the only thing I can really think of is just kinda like, make good use of eager's edge and good sword flying, the rest of it is pretty self explanatory
If you run lion rampants you can time your jumps with sword swings to fly for as long as you have sword ammo. You may need to watch a video to get a feel for the timing.
There are wrong platforms you can jump to, which can cause you to have to start over. This is the reason it's considered a puzzle, this should not have needed explaining. smh
Grasstoucher here (I missed March to August of this year). Wellskating is a momentum conserving animation cancel used primarily to move very fast, and secondarily to impress. Since eager edge has been in the game (and perhaps earlier but I'm ignorant of the days before e.e. when Worldline Zero was used) lots of videos, clips, and threads have emerged showcasing and explaining both how the wellskate "tech" works and how to do it. Give it a try! Lots of fun.
Wellskating is done with an Eager Edge sword and a fully charged Well of Radiance super. For this one in particular, due to the distance, you need to have Icarus Dash and Heat Rises aspects equipped to extend your airtime. You can do the actual Wellskate without either of those aspects, but you'll only get a short distance out of it (still extremely quickly, though). Basically, you stand near a ledge. Pull out your EE sword and use the heavy attack, followed immediately by a jump, and then immediately cast your Well of Radiance super. If you do it right, the sword swing and the Well animations should cancel while preserving your momentum from the Eager Edge lunge. You would then hold grenade to consume it and activate Heat Rises, and use the Icarus Dashes to extend the distance. You want to "pulse" your glide because you lose momentum very quickly while gliding, but preserve it while simply freefalling. The quick pulsing prevents you from losing height while only minimally affecting your speed.
I'm assuming I need to watch a video on well skating now.
If ur on PC its pre easy to do but if ur on console it's kinda hard and takes awhile to learn
@@davinshapka3211 actually its easier on controller, just depends on whether you have a hard time learning it.
@@elvarias9730 actually PC can have a micro so they only need to press 1 button vs our like 6 buttons on console
@@davinshapka3211 its 3 buttons, in one flick, and if u use macros nothing is hard anyway
@@Sasuke-jk8yj exactly what I'm trying to say
Raid mechanic too hard? Just learn a much more difficult mechanic to skip it forehead...
People seem to be vastly overestimating how hard shatterdive and well skating is. Like it's 3 buttons pressed quickly. And it's an insanely useful skill, everywhere in the game.
One of the easier movement techs
@@RodWaffle yeah WASD is hardest movement tech
that mid air swap to blink is fucking cleannnnn
For anyone wondering, yes, you can full skip on titan as well, not really sure why it isn't in the video.
Did he just call acolytes aliens? Haha I mean you’re not wrong
I was looking for this comment
9 out of 10 people? 🤣 You're raiding with the wrong people then but thanks for the jumpy skip tips 😁
If you can do that you 100% can do the jump puzzle
One is way faster
Superior techniques from the goat himself. I'm boutta go see if it's doable on console
It is (at least on ps5/Xbox X). I do it all the time. Very fun movement tech
What warlock jump are you running? I can make it across but it's nowhere near that quick
Sick video. I still remember doing the d1 tether cancel skip.
I don’t think I’ve heard someone call ads aliens since d1
bruh XD i wonder how movement would be once we get strand
I saw sweat do this Hunter skip from the first ship and my mind was blown
It is possible to make the entire jump with just a shatterdive into the blinks, but you can't avoid the loadzone that way.
When does the fireteam join back? After u hit basilica load zone or once you’re in the totems room?
I don't understand how some people just don't know how to jump, this "puzzle" is supremely easy lol
Well, all of the are.
Its not about how easy it is. Its about how long it takes.
Difficulty is not why 99% of people are watching
Bold of you to assume my pc can load the character menu fast enough to switch subclasses.
"9/10 people still manage to suck balls at it"
right...
so here's a much harder way to do it that will likely hold up a team for much longer because 1 person cant get the steps right.
the first two can bring the whole team forward due to not hitting a trigger that unloads the grav lift at the end, so I mean
quite literally a wr speed strat LMAO
@@starlightrains if you cant do the ship puzzle, you're probably not going for wr runs.
@@sidezz without getting a possible res border from the chest?
@@AJ-top1 my sincerest appologies for not knowing the ins and outs of a game i just came back to after a 2 years haitus.
If a person can do this crap they can do the jumping puzzle
Sidezz video in recommended, splendid, time to watch it. Not even 10 seconds in an Sidezz has said that 9/10 people suck absolute balls. This is exactly what I came for. 10/10.
I can’t do any of that well skate shit on console, pretty lame
yes you can, I do it when I play controller on pc occasionally, I actually tried it specifically because I wanted to see if I should make a disclaimer saying it's just flat out not possible on the sticks
@@sidezz I’m on console
@@sidezz skating is tied to fps (more than about 90 to be consistent)
@@ulyssemeewt1398 I can do it consistently on ps4 and 5. Not sure about xbox but I'm not sure if that would effect anything.
dont have soundsystem dreamscape in the background PotEnemy
How do people do this stuff of small ledges I need some breathing room for mine to work
Literally never heard of anyone switching subs for skating
But can you bubble skate across?
Sure, this saves time for the better players that want to sit afk while waiting, but trust me, the people who can't harness their gamer prowess enough to chain together 6 easy junps onto latge platforms are NOT going to have the thumbskill, time nor patience to learn to skate.
Not meant as a diss to day job daddies or casual players, but if you can't remember a couple telegraphed moving platforms, chances are you're not spending 2 of your 10 weekly hours learning a skating tech that only really impacts the grimiest of basement goblins.
You can do it on titan, just not as quick
Man i love raids mainly for the jump puzzles honestly. there's no other game like this
There are better games like this. Bungue are a bunch on lazy fat idiots. They copy the vest buts out of all games. You have to have the brain of a bug to not realise this game isn't original whatsoever. It's addictive but definitely not original or the best in any shape or form.
@@gloves1472 Give me some examples of jumping puzzle games then mr hater
0:05 me, Pog
you got this video on console?
you can do the skip without a super just starfire protocol heatrising and eagers edge
i love ship skitups! 6:40
much love, cammy sent me here
You can also hook a left and get the secret chest
How do i dash twice my warlock only dash once
You need to consume your grenade for heat rising
Aka hard to do with a controller. I'll just do the jump puzzle
Frankly, doing the jumping puzzle is easier than learning to Shattter Skate or Well Skate
it honestly is not
Trust, it's not. It has a lot of application all through the game and it's really not that hard to learn. It might take a little bit of time to get the timing down originally, but then it's muscle memory that you pick up very quickly. Then once you can do one of them, it's like a 5 min job to learn the other just because it's different button placement.
Shatter skate took me about 30 minutes to learn consistently. Well skate is a bit harder on controller since it's two buttons for super by default. But you could map super to one button and then it's exactly the same as shatter.
The first hunter 1 won't ork bc my inventory takes 60 yrs to load
I actually don’t mind the ship jumping, it’s the other one with the device coming out of the wall as well as takken blast that I hate lol
Oh the penis wall? Eh it’s not that bad, pretty much the same from d1
@@default2907 lol, yeah, I had some clan mates take me through my first one in d1 and only one, and being a noob, I fell for the standing in front of it nor knowing what was coming. Knocked me right in to D2 lol
You can skip most of if not all that with well skating too
U can do dis shit on controller
Barely
@@skoomaguy3748 most definitely possible.
@@lowrld9716 shatterskating yes most definitely. Wellskate not as easy unless you change your binds to have your super activate with a single button press
Am I missed something for double icarus dash
why did you deep fry the thumbnail lmfao
I think all the subclasses should have unique ways of traversing parkour sections. Stasis can create platforms, strand will be able to use grapples, arc has increased speed and jumps. How cool would it be if void could have like a "teleport to grenade" ability or solar could explosive jump
They should give W0 a new perk that activates amplified when using Tesseract
Are you able to save a checkpoint off of someone for the jump puzzle or do i have to do court first if i wanna pratice?
you can grab a checkpoint
1:30 ugh you need Div for this too
Where’s my boy titan ???
Thanks for putting this together. At first I was overwhelmed and like many of the commenters I was thinking I'd stick to doing it normally! But this actually encouraged me to learn well and shatter skating. So after watching another few vids on that and breaking down your well skating steps, I'm confident I'll be able to do it in KF after lots of practice at Morgeth bridge. The height and momentum from the early glide and later dash boosts really makes a difference. Thanks again!
I mean it's cool but just do the ships
Maybe you give some credit :D
Just let's wait until Lightfall
great video mr sujat
TITAN: Just Fly.
You can get to the chest with glacier grenade and swapping to salv grip.
Its not 100 percent on controller
Before I watch I suck at this jump
Is anyone doing this on controller? If so, what button configuration?
for shatterdive bind it to b(circle for ps) press rather than hold for well idk how but I heard someone say to bind it to up on the d pad.
those jumps are easy🤣
nice video thanks, but i can get to the first point it doesnt reach the high, is anything that im missing?
if you're blinking, make sure to look STRAIGHT up into the sky
I’m referring to the first platform out of the ship on hunter doesn’t reach the height I have mobility on 100 and I even use the stompees but no luck
Titan can do this aswell just requires max sword ammo and lion rampants look up a video on titan sword flying and go from there
You don't even need max. You can make the gap with less than 40 ammo with lament. Probably less with eager.
Nice! What about the Titans?
When I Icarus dash I lose so much forward momentum. How are you maintaining yours?
What do you mean by glide out of skate and drop glide? Am I well skating wrong?
When I wellskate I press jump once and super at the same time after my heavy. Do I need to double tap jump immediately while holding grenade after that? Or do I hold jump until my heat rises procs and then let go of my jump? And then glide pump is just double tapping jump and then letting go of it?
Screw this after 5 hours I still can’t do it. Star fire protocol and 2 Nades is much more reliable
gotta drop the glide immediately so your inputs would be like (jump -> dash -> jump -> dash) then start tapping your glide on and off with about a 1-2 second gap between the pumps
titan set and watch
Sidezz smells
This is a serious amount of high octane gamer energy!
titans can probably just normal sword fly over I would believe and land on that rocky part
yup, seen it happened. I dunno what legs it was but they had one that buffs maneuverability.
@@AztraNine Oh yes, its pretty easy actually. U need Lion Rampant exotic legs, a sword and catapult lift. Just dont know if it works with this cheese
That’s why their not in the video, they can just skip everything
Can someone please confirm if this is viable on console with Hunter? With the arc swap?
I am curious too, as I am on xbox
Ya it’s possible, I’m on Xbox series x
Yes but only on next gen consoles
egads man, great demo.
W.G.A.F
I have tried that jump at 4:21 so many times copying your every move and i get so close, but everytime i just dont get enough height and barely come up short. No idea whats wrong i have stomp-ee, 100 mobilty, eager edge.
i think you arent supposed to hold w, like B-hopping in csgo
@@roblowe2714 Ah I might of been doing that, I will try it again and ill let ya know if that helped.
you can hold W, just space your jumps out more and you should manage. if you jump at the peak of the jump both times, you'll lose too much height on the way there
@@sidezzi made a 30 sec clip of me trying it, maybe yall can tell me what im doing wrong.
th-cam.com/video/atXHcbcHdjk/w-d-xo.html
Dude do it on ps5!!!
Like pvp king doing PvE things
You mentioned it slightly in the video, but just for confirmation, when doing the skip that doesn't load in the barrier, the door to the secret chest will still be there right? So if a team want's to go for the chest you'll need to stand on the two plates regardless?
You can use the exotic stasis crystal nade launcher to get to the chest
any form of stasis can get you the chest from the other side of the barrier
Is there anything for titans?
Swordfly :)
No titan skip?... sad 😔
you just sword fly, it's a simple thing and I guess my thought process was that it wasn't necessary to mention since these have more advanced techniques involved
how do you double ic dash?
heat rises from consuming the grenade
Okay, now show this on PlayStation
It’s possible on ps4 I did it
@@lt-armycorporal1410 can confirm. Did it on ps4 as well and its even easier on ps5 as the inventory loads a bit faster.
Like someone asked already, is it possible on controller? 😅
Yes, just look up a video on well/shatterskating
Wellskating is harder on controller
A little harder, but still possible
On warlock What exo u Use ?
im on transversive steps most of the time, for king's fall I often switch over to lunafactions. other content where I know i might be spamming rifts more, i'll switch to starfire protocol
Nice job Sidezz :)
Is there a cp for the jump puzzle?
there is, I think I mention it in the video (or a cut segement), just complete the opening and you should have the jump puzzle checkpoint
Do I need stompees for this
i'm preferential to them personally but I think it's possible without them. worst case scenario you pull them from collections. it needs to be mentioned I haven't actually tried without stompees
Those ALIENS
Literally never heard someone refer to an ad as an alien in 8 years of lfging this game
This is not possible on ps4
Hunter one I mean
@@Michael88xx I did it on xbox
It is.
My meny is so slow.. I can't hotswap like that
The warlock one can also very easily be done with daybreak + heat rises + icaris dash + starfire protocol. Just use super to get across main area, consuming a grenade near the end. Then inch your way around and wait for 2 grenades and get across spamming dashes
Yeah but who's using daybreak after solar 3.0 just well skate over
@@alsh5119 "just use a difficult technique instead of something that uses minimal effort"
@@xxghostyxx219 if u think well skating is difficult then thats an issue+ it doesn't use a super, so it saves alot of time and much easier
No titan?
lion rampants and a sword lol thundercrash if you really need it thats nothing new titans have been able to skate almost infinite distances for years the only thing that stops them is the amount of sword ammo they have
@@goth-mommy Ya I know how to sword fly. Just wanted to see if he had any tips for this skip in particular.
the only thing I can really think of is just kinda like, make good use of eager's edge and good sword flying, the rest of it is pretty self explanatory
@@formxr bubble skate LOL
@@Zefrone that throws you downwards so it wont work
Cheating, simply cheating
macro? this is not normal
no macros
Cool, but I'll jump the regular puzzle. Those spoils from the chest are too valuable.
you can get the spoils... you didn't even watch the video did you?
The puzzle is so easy all of that extra stuff is crazy 😂,
Skating is fun that's all
Anyone have a macro for this that actually works?
learn how to do it and you won't need a macro for it
@@sidezz I'd rather just use a macro
Amazing. Great job. Over half of the words you used to describe the things we’re supposed to do, I have never heard of before.
never too late to learn some very basic techniques, all you need to do is search up "d2 well skating" and have an eager edge sword
@@sidezz I dunno.. an instructional video where I have to look up other instructions before I understand the first set of instructions?
@@Solkard go watch a calculus video without learning algebra first and use the same logic. Sometimes you have to learn basics first.
nothing for titans..fun
If you run lion rampants you can time your jumps with sword swings to fly for as long as you have sword ammo. You may need to watch a video to get a feel for the timing.
How do you skate with the eager edge sword? What is the button mechanics
heavy attack jump and then super as fast as you can
@@SimulacruMidir and for hunter, replace the super with shatterdive
Why do people call platforming a "jumping puzzle" what's so puzzling about jumping from platform to platform
There are wrong platforms you can jump to, which can cause you to have to start over. This is the reason it's considered a puzzle, this should not have needed explaining. smh
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What the fuck is a wellskate. Just asking for those who actually touch grass
Grasstoucher here (I missed March to August of this year).
Wellskating is a momentum conserving animation cancel used primarily to move very fast, and secondarily to impress. Since eager edge has been in the game (and perhaps earlier but I'm ignorant of the days before e.e. when Worldline Zero was used) lots of videos, clips, and threads have emerged showcasing and explaining both how the wellskate "tech" works and how to do it.
Give it a try! Lots of fun.
Wellskating is done with an Eager Edge sword and a fully charged Well of Radiance super. For this one in particular, due to the distance, you need to have Icarus Dash and Heat Rises aspects equipped to extend your airtime. You can do the actual Wellskate without either of those aspects, but you'll only get a short distance out of it (still extremely quickly, though).
Basically, you stand near a ledge. Pull out your EE sword and use the heavy attack, followed immediately by a jump, and then immediately cast your Well of Radiance super. If you do it right, the sword swing and the Well animations should cancel while preserving your momentum from the Eager Edge lunge. You would then hold grenade to consume it and activate Heat Rises, and use the Icarus Dashes to extend the distance. You want to "pulse" your glide because you lose momentum very quickly while gliding, but preserve it while simply freefalling. The quick pulsing prevents you from losing height while only minimally affecting your speed.