Imagine the resentment that Elendil and the faithful had for Sauron, watching him slowly corrupt their people, making them refugees and now facing him in his true form in Mordor, likewise for Sauron seeing the survivors of numenor that he couldn’t deceive still standing defiantly and now empowered before him after the lengths he went to lol
Amandil, father of Elendil The Tall took a ship to seek the help of the valar. Amandil was never seen after that but it is believed that he did deliver his message. Before he set off on his quest, he told his son to make ready ships so the faithful could escape the downfall of Numenor.
@@allthatishere well if you actually read all of Tolkien's works and get an idea of the time frame it's not impossible to comprehend. Besides humans have stupidity short memories and are easily corrupted.
I really like this style of video. It'd be so cool to see the earliest eras of the Silmarillion! Though that's... probably not possible. The timescale alone! Thanks for making these videos, guys! I really hope the new series is good. Hope being the key word.
You gotta respect Numenor's might. They were the human equivalent to Valinor 's Vanyar and Noldor elves. Whilst Lindon and Eregion elves struggled to hold Sauron, the Numenoreans came to their rescue and kick his ass back to Barad-ur. Then a thousand years later, again with Sauron and his power rebuilt, they form a host, cruise through Harad and kick his ass in Mordor with their power alone and bring him in chains. Imagine how powerful you need to be to cruise through a powerful Mordor and bring back Sauron in chains without much difficulty.
I would love to see a video like this about the first age. And to answer your question, I would like to see an in depth video about the fall of Numenor
10:06 Celebrimbor was not killed at the battle of Eregion. He was captured and tortured by Sauron for 2 years. He would still not reveal the location of the 3 elven rings. He died from the torture eventually. The orcs shot up his corpse with arrows and hung him on a pole as a banner.
What-if video idea for you to do: What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
Succinct yet informative. Good work! I would say that the importance of all the elf lords you mentioned can't be bypassed to tell a proper 2nd age story, but the teasers make it seem the show may be doing just that.
Something about Doors of Durin - they were opened before the Fellowship of the Ring. For example Gandalf ventured Moria before and said he exit the mines from inside.
Well, considering the showrunners have said they are compressing the 2nd Age timeline for at least the major events to within one human, presumably Númenórean lifetime, there are major changes for that alone.
@@allthatishere i think given how little info and how big gaps in lore are about the 2nd age. its not a surprise that majority would be original characters.
They hopefully will show the queen struggling to reach the summit of menaltarma so she could make one last desperate plea to the valar before she too was lost in the downfall... That would probably be one of the saddest scenes for me but it was no less important.
A similar video on the First Age be nice. I really enjoyed this one. Good overview focusing on highlights without neglecting "connecting" material. You do a great job on these videos. I've recently discovered the channel, and become a regular viewer.
10:50 not true, the Western doors of Moria could be quite easily opened from the inside, Gandalf and Aragorn had both previously travelled through the mines that way, having entered from the East.
I'm not sure i will watch the show, I'm way too much into Tolkien stories to see them changed :D Having said that, I would love to see the founding of Lindon and Eregion realms, as well as what on earth is Maglor doing, that could be something the show could speculate with... you can always hope ;)
Always wondered why the second age didn't end with the drowning of Numenor. A much more cataclysmic event than the defeat of Sauron in the war of the last alliance.
I think it's because, so far, all ages have ended when the respective Dark Lord was vanquished. First Age ended with Morgoth's defeat, Second Age ended with Sauron's defeat, Third Age ended with Sauron's final defeat.
She has very little to do with any of it. She basically doesn't trust Sauron and later she takes a ring and some seeds to Lothlorien and plants the big trees. End of story.
I expect that Amazon's "adaptation" will bring interest in the Second Age to an end. Perhaps it will be revived in the future if it gets proper treatment.
I'm glad that more people are being introduced to Tolkien and especially his works outside the events of The Hobbit & The Lord Of The Rings. I'm looking forward to the new show and seeing how other people imagine it all.
I would love to see elros leaving Elrond in one flash back from Elrond point of view and the last ever scene of the last season should be the last alliance marching to face saurons forces but I can’t wait to see isildur stealing the white tree sapling from numenor myself and the great flood but also seeing sauron make the ring himself
Yes, and looking at the first pictures I thought the actor they gave us as 'Celebrimbor' would have been better suited as Elros, aged up compared to his twin.
Bit underwhelmed with the casting for celebrimbor in the new TV series I always imagined celebrimbor in silver and blue elvish armor and long black sleek hair the guy in the rings of power looks like a normal guy you would see on the street with short brown hair
Add to the list: a deep dive into the specific Catholic/Christian theological concepts that Tolkien was mirroring in so many scenes! You did a similar video, but it was a more broad and cursory review of all Tolkien's influences. I think the Catholic theology he injected were so numerous and specific that you could almost make a separate channel for just that.
i always keep asking how precisely the edain got blessed, either the moment when they entered numenor or over the generations of edain born on numenor got stronger older and taller
Thanks for putting this out. I appreciate tubers throwing out content for us followers. Trying to figure out when Rings of Power is taking place. It sounds like 3255 but a lot of the show story sounds earlier since the Numenor act like they have gone to ME recently at all (going off the timeline for them in Umbar).
I can see them cutting the thing with the Tar-&Ar- Kings short and the whole Civil-War with the Faithful & Kingsmen playing out between Elendil, Tar-Miriel and Ar-Pharazon.
Hello, and thank you for the video. It confirmed what i read online and brings me to my question. What is up with LOTR: Rings of Power? What I mean is the show does not appear to follow the timeline. The show starts before the establishment of Mordor, and creation of the rings, yet Elendil and his son Isildur also exist? There appears to be a huge amount of artistic license being used here by bringing characters and events together that are thousands of years apart. Would you be able to enlighten as to why this was done? The articles I found online regarding the show do not address this glaring rewriting of the legendarium.
Very comprehensive and helpful thank you! Really makes me wonder why the amazon 'Rings Of Power' teasers haven't alluded to ANY of this! In fact looking back on the teasers they seem to be covering a completely different or alternative timeline.
The rings of power showrunners seem to have decided to massively compress the timeline to create something quite different from what Tolkien wrote. They aren't using the canon timeline at all.
I have a stupid question, I've never read the books and only have watched the movies a million times, but I was wondering about king Theoden from the two towers right before he rides out into battle. He says "where is the horse and the rider?" What was this about? How did he know? Was there a prophecy or something? Also, right before he's turned back into himself by the white wizard, he calls Gandalf "stormcrow". What did that mean?
"Stormcrow" is an ill way to say Gandalf only brings bad News and unfortunate events. "Where is the horse and the rider" is part of a poem in the books, where the old days of Rohirrim are retold
if you have not already can you please make one of the first age? This one was great. Actually seeing all the timelines would really be great, but seeing the first age is the one i am interested in seeing next :) :)
Three of the Nazgul were men from the mighty race of Numenor. My guess is that the Witch King was one of those three along with Kamul The Easterling and possibly Gothmog.
Awesome! I’m very excited for the show. It’s these main timeline moments that I’m most excited for. There may be a lot that feels filler or doesn’t work well but I hope these main moments are executed well.
In answer to your question, the essential part has to be the last alliance, however this clearly wont come in the first season. The emergence of Sauron, the alliance of Aldarion and Gil-Galad, and the arrival of Anatar. One thing I hope gets covered in the series eventually, with much room for creative licence is the emergence of the lords, kings and sorcerers who become the ring wraiths.
I really enjoyed this video. I've always been curious about the Kingdom of Lindon and how the Noldor chose to live in For-Lindon, ( North of the Lune) while the Sindar lived in Har-Lindon.( South of the Lune) Again, thank you for your videos.
That is ONE. LONG. HISTORY! But I love it, thank you for taking the time to present it this way! I have a question. So, in the year 1600 SA, Sauron finally forges the one Ring to Rule Them All, right? The epic battle in which Isildur chops the ring off Sauron’s finger is 3431 SA? And during this roughly 1700 year interval there are all kinds of epic battles where the Dark Lord himself can say, like the rest of us “you win some, you lose some!”? He even gets taken prisoner and frog-marched to Numenor, where he bides his time (for how long?) long enough to snooker the king into making him an advisor there and to convert the populace to worshippers of Morgoth! Etc… Given the almost maniacal urgency with which the Council of Elrond would shove the Fellowship of the Ring out towards Mt. Doom in the 3rd Age, I would have expected much more dire and immediate consequences for his enemies when Sauron had initially completed the forging of his One Ring way, way back in 1600 of the second age. Like, within minutes. So what am I missing here? Thanks to this channel and others like it, you guys have revived my love of Tolkien’s life-long work on this amazing saga. Now I can’t let it go, thank you very much! Cheers!
The situation is very different between the two ages. There were only a few Noldor left in Middle-Earth in the late Third Age, but there was an entire kingdom of Noldor (Lindon) in the Second Age. Even Gondor at it's peak (~1000 TA) was only a shadow of the glory of Numenor, and Gondor in the late Third Age was a shadow of it's former glory. Khazad-dum was trashed by Durin's Bane in 1980 TA, and the Dwarves were reduced in strength and numbers.
@@JM-19-86 that’s a very good and concise explanation and I like it! The differences between these 2 ages as you describe them must have really been something! I figured it had to be something like that, but it’s also occurred to me that, along with these external differences, perhaps Sauron had invested so much of his power into the ring that it would take time for him to then acquire the kind of frightful leverage worthy of the ring’s power and which he had intended. And, in the meantime, he still managed to really come out and create some grief: to go from prisoner to advisor in Numenor; then convince its men to start worshiping middle earth’s equivalent of Lucifer; and then get them to attack the good guys in Aman. I’m guessing Iluvatar’s sinking of Numenor subsequently is a good indication of Sauron’s crescendoing mischief. Put another way, when the ring is finally cut from his finger, what’s immediately left of him is practically nothing-suggesting how much power was now in that thing. Fast forward 3 millennia. He’s STILL without that thing, and yet… just imagine the combined power between the ring itself and what Sauron had amassed in the meantime! That makes sense to me. Yikes.
I'd rather that show didn't exist. Everything I've seen about it has been more and move evidence that it's exactly what I was always afraid it was going to be.
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I enjoyed the Cliff notes version more than I thought I might. I’d welcome seeing all of the other times this way.
Last time I came this early to a video, Aragorn saved Boromir.
Imagine the resentment that Elendil and the faithful had for Sauron, watching him slowly corrupt their people, making them refugees and now facing him in his true form in Mordor, likewise for Sauron seeing the survivors of numenor that he couldn’t deceive still standing defiantly and now empowered before him after the lengths he went to lol
Amandil, father of Elendil The Tall took a ship to seek the help of the valar. Amandil was never seen after that but it is believed that he did deliver his message. Before he set off on his quest, he told his son to make ready ships so the faithful could escape the downfall of Numenor.
I just find it comical that Sauron went from a "prisoner of war" to the "right hand man of the king."
@@allthatishere only Sauron 😂
@@allthatishere well if you actually read all of Tolkien's works and get an idea of the time frame it's not impossible to comprehend.
Besides humans have stupidity short memories and are easily corrupted.
@@Manco65 I didn't say it was impossible, I just find it to be comical. I get the gist of what happened and it does make sense.
I really like this style of video. It'd be so cool to see the earliest eras of the Silmarillion! Though that's... probably not possible. The timescale alone! Thanks for making these videos, guys! I really hope the new series is good. Hope being the key word.
WOOOOOW!!! Perfect video, perfect timing! Thank you!!
You gotta respect Numenor's might. They were the human equivalent to Valinor 's Vanyar and Noldor elves. Whilst Lindon and Eregion elves struggled to hold Sauron, the Numenoreans came to their rescue and kick his ass back to Barad-ur. Then a thousand years later, again with Sauron and his power rebuilt, they form a host, cruise through Harad and kick his ass in Mordor with their power alone and bring him in chains. Imagine how powerful you need to be to cruise through a powerful Mordor and bring back Sauron in chains without much difficulty.
The complete timelines for First, Third & Fourth ages would be fantastic
This! I'd love those!
I would love to see a video like this about the first age. And to answer your question, I would like to see an in depth video about the fall of Numenor
I’d love to make one on the First Age too 😁
Excellent as always Mellon! The second age is my favorite age...Keep it up!
"Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul!!"
This is the Second Age we want to see. Quality video.
10:06 Celebrimbor was not killed at the battle of Eregion. He was captured and tortured by Sauron for 2 years. He would still not reveal the location of the 3 elven rings. He died from the torture eventually. The orcs shot up his corpse with arrows and hung him on a pole as a banner.
Another error - the western door of Moria didn't remain closed until the Fellowship entered it. Gandalf had exited from it some time before.
@@JCO2002 no no, they are kinda correct... It was never open from OUTSIDE untill the fellowship. Just a little mistake from the narrator/text.
What-if video idea for you to do:
What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
The last time I was this early, one could simply walk into Mordor
Succinct yet informative. Good work! I would say that the importance of all the elf lords you mentioned can't be bypassed to tell a proper 2nd age story, but the teasers make it seem the show may be doing just that.
I just like to thank you guys for the effort and work you put into these videos. ❤️❤️
Thank you so much :D
After all that time, all it took was to speak friend to open it. Some incredible door hinge engineering right there
Something about Doors of Durin - they were opened before the Fellowship of the Ring. For example Gandalf ventured Moria before and said he exit the mines from inside.
This summary is better than the entire rings of power show
Good to see Goldar on the thumbnail
🤣🤣🤣
You are doing a great job! Keep up the with the topics.
Reliable as usual! When I need something on the second age you got me fam.
Could you do a video comparing this timeline to the Rings of Power?
Let's see how different the story is from the works of Tolkien.
Well, considering the showrunners have said they are compressing the 2nd Age timeline for at least the major events to within one human, presumably Númenórean lifetime, there are major changes for that alone.
amazon has condensed the timelines a lot so that there are not many human deaths , thus they would only show main characters.
@@allthatishere i think given how little info and how big gaps in lore are about the 2nd age.
its not a surprise that majority would be original characters.
Im not sure he would be able to do a 5 hour video....
The sinking of Numenor should be incredible.
They hopefully will show the queen struggling to reach the summit of menaltarma so she could make one last desperate plea to the valar before she too was lost in the downfall... That would probably be one of the saddest scenes for me but it was no less important.
I would love such a breakdown of the other Ages too :)
A similar video on the First Age be nice.
I really enjoyed this one. Good overview focusing on highlights without neglecting "connecting" material.
You do a great job on these videos. I've recently discovered the channel, and become a regular viewer.
Great Video as always
Thanks!
Please do more "what ifs"
Ps: love your vids
Thank you 😁
Thanks for making this. It really helps to have this in mind for the show.
The fall of Eregion
Yes, the fall of Eregion, as well as the fall of Numenor.
I greatly enjoyed this style. Please continue.
"... Not received well..."
Greatest understatement of all times. Lol, loved this time line of the 2nd age.
Subscriber request: Id love a deep dive into the first and last kings of Nunenor, elronds twin brother and AR Pharazon
I missed the part in Tolkien's writings where the Elves need mithril to keep them from fading.
10:50 not true, the Western doors of Moria could be quite easily opened from the inside, Gandalf and Aragorn had both previously travelled through the mines that way, having entered from the East.
I'm not sure i will watch the show, I'm way too much into Tolkien stories to see them changed :D Having said that, I would love to see the founding of Lindon and Eregion realms, as well as what on earth is Maglor doing, that could be something the show could speculate with... you can always hope ;)
Would be awesome to see Sauron being captured and start manupulating the numenors! Also perfect video before the series, thanks!
You gained a new follower with this. I'm going to go back and watch more. But more of this style would be great!
Love this style of video awesome great work love to see it for other ages
Just love these videos! Thank you for sharing! I find myself nodding along and agreeing with you so often :)
Thanks for this I’m learning a lot getting ready for September!!
Great video, 3rd will be watched if added!!
I'm not holding my breath for TroP to be anything close to good.
Always wondered why the second age didn't end with the drowning of Numenor. A much more cataclysmic event than the defeat of Sauron in the war of the last alliance.
I think it's because, so far, all ages have ended when the respective Dark Lord was vanquished. First Age ended with Morgoth's defeat, Second Age ended with Sauron's defeat, Third Age ended with Sauron's final defeat.
Thank you for posting the video. I've always wondered about the timeline of middle earth.
I never heard a name "galadriel" in this video. Maybe I just failed to hear it.
Meanwhile all I see is galadriel in this new Amazon fan fiction.
She has very little to do with any of it. She basically doesn't trust Sauron and later she takes a ring and some seeds to Lothlorien and plants the big trees. End of story.
Yes, please more timeline videos. They are very helpful!
I expect that Amazon's "adaptation" will bring interest in the Second Age to an end. Perhaps it will be revived in the future if it gets proper treatment.
Very nice video .. can't wait to see the third age in a video like this one ⚘️
I'm glad that more people are being introduced to Tolkien and especially his works outside the events of The Hobbit & The Lord Of The Rings.
I'm looking forward to the new show and seeing how other people imagine it all.
Thanks for making the video. Really useful background to guide me through ROP. Love the channel 👍👍
Good video
Thank you!
Great video! You could really make similar videos for all the previous and following ages.
Can we get a Smaug vs Balrog What If versus battle breakdown!?
I would love to see elros leaving Elrond in one flash back from Elrond point of view and the last ever scene of the last season should be the last alliance marching to face saurons forces but I can’t wait to see isildur stealing the white tree sapling from numenor myself and the great flood but also seeing sauron make the ring himself
Yes, and looking at the first pictures I thought the actor they gave us as 'Celebrimbor' would have been better suited as Elros, aged up compared to his twin.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 nyet
Not with the pile of dung the Rings of Pamper have done.
Gonna have to start that one right over again lol.
Sounds like ROP is starting about the year 3000
This was SO helpful, if you did this style more I would definitely appreciate it!
Thouroughly enjoyed it! Thanks
I enjoyed this presentation! Please do same for all ages of Middle Earth. Thank you!!
Keep it up I love listen to the Insight that you give.
Thanks! Will do 😊
Thanks
Thank you so much :D
I enjoyed this, many thanks. Yes.. please do timelines for other ages too 😊
I am VERY excited to see the Lord of Gifts befriending Celebrimbor and deceiving the elves to create the rings of power.
Bit underwhelmed with the casting for celebrimbor in the new TV series I always imagined celebrimbor in silver and blue elvish armor and long black sleek hair the guy in the rings of power looks like a normal guy you would see on the street with short brown hair
Add to the list: a deep dive into the specific Catholic/Christian theological concepts that Tolkien was mirroring in so many scenes!
You did a similar video, but it was a more broad and cursory review of all Tolkien's influences. I think the Catholic theology he injected were so numerous and specific that you could almost make a separate channel for just that.
yes please do the first age also!!!!!!! 💛💛💛💛💛
i always keep asking how precisely the edain got blessed, either the moment when they entered numenor or over the generations of edain born on numenor got stronger older and taller
The moment they started learning from Eonwë the blessing was given
@@leonardofaber5823 aha i see thanks so i could asume it was the later generations thats learned most of those blessings?
@@willffre the Edain were the founding fathers of the Númenórëans. So not the later generations, but the very first ones
@@leonardofaber5823 ah thanks for clearing that up for me
This is by far the best video on the 2nd age. Beautiful I wish to donate please share the link.
Thanks for putting this out. I appreciate tubers throwing out content for us followers. Trying to figure out when Rings of Power is taking place. It sounds like 3255 but a lot of the show story sounds earlier since the Numenor act like they have gone to ME recently at all (going off the timeline for them in Umbar).
ROP is an emetic fanfic that happens only in the writers's empty heads.
very cool video style!
I can see them cutting the thing with the Tar-&Ar- Kings short and the whole Civil-War with the Faithful & Kingsmen playing out between Elendil, Tar-Miriel and Ar-Pharazon.
Great video, thanks.
The first age is interesting and like to now more about it and this a really great video my favorite one at least.
Hello, and thank you for the video. It confirmed what i read online and brings me to my question. What is up with LOTR: Rings of Power? What I mean is the show does not appear to follow the timeline. The show starts before the establishment of Mordor, and creation of the rings, yet Elendil and his son Isildur also exist? There appears to be a huge amount of artistic license being used here by bringing characters and events together that are thousands of years apart. Would you be able to enlighten as to why this was done? The articles I found online regarding the show do not address this glaring rewriting of the legendarium.
Very comprehensive and helpful thank you! Really makes me wonder why the amazon 'Rings Of Power' teasers haven't alluded to ANY of this! In fact looking back on the teasers they seem to be covering a completely different or alternative timeline.
The rings of power showrunners seem to have decided to massively compress the timeline to create something quite different from what Tolkien wrote. They aren't using the canon timeline at all.
I have a stupid question, I've never read the books and only have watched the movies a million times, but I was wondering about king Theoden from the two towers right before he rides out into battle. He says "where is the horse and the rider?"
What was this about? How did he know? Was there a prophecy or something?
Also, right before he's turned back into himself by the white wizard, he calls Gandalf "stormcrow". What did that mean?
"Stormcrow" is an ill way to say Gandalf only brings bad News and unfortunate events.
"Where is the horse and the rider" is part of a poem in the books, where the old days of Rohirrim are retold
The words of Grima Wormtongue: "ill news is an ill guest".
Love your videos and yes please do the third age.
if you have not already can you please make one of the first age? This one was great. Actually seeing all the timelines would really be great, but seeing the first age is the one i am interested in seeing next :) :)
I am looking forward to the scenery in the TV series. For example, Eregion, Arnor, Numenor, flashbacks to Beleriand 😍😍😍
What good is scenery when the story will be 💩
Three of the Nazgul were men from the mighty race of Numenor. My guess is that the Witch King was one of those three along with Kamul The Easterling and possibly Gothmog.
i am guessing halbrand will become one of the nazgul
Khamul the Easterling was, surprisingly, an Easterling
@@johnnyedelhoff5866 the black numenoreans also did settle among the Easterlings and the Haradrim. So my comment isn't off the mark.
@@natedorney7032 yes but the that he's known as THE Easterling suggests that he's an Easterling. Also the name Khamûl doesn't sound very Númenorean
@@johnnyedelhoff5866 it could be a name given to him by the easterlings.
I’d love to see the story of Tuor & the story of Glorfindel as well
Nice video. Thank you.
yes do this kind of video for First Age and Third age
Awesome video
Awesome! I’m very excited for the show. It’s these main timeline moments that I’m most excited for. There may be a lot that feels filler or doesn’t work well but I hope these main moments are executed well.
Well done, M8
In answer to your question, the essential part has to be the last alliance, however this clearly wont come in the first season. The emergence of Sauron, the alliance of Aldarion and Gil-Galad, and the arrival of Anatar.
One thing I hope gets covered in the series eventually, with much room for creative licence is the emergence of the lords, kings and sorcerers who become the ring wraiths.
So the the Rings of Power happens circa 1200 and Sauron will appear to elfs (Celebrimbor and Gil Galad) as Annatar?
The show is going to be consolidating this entire several-thousand-year history into its however many seasons, unfortunately.
I would love to see a video about the fall of eregion
We want a complete timeline even if it takes 2 hours,thank you lots of 💕💕💕
Can't wait to see the War of the Elves and Sauron and the fall of Ost-in-Edhil. So many powerful High Elves there...it must have been epic.
Well done.
I really enjoyed this video. I've always been curious about the Kingdom of Lindon and how the Noldor chose to live in For-Lindon, ( North of the Lune) while the Sindar lived in Har-Lindon.( South of the Lune) Again, thank you for your videos.
Imagine how Sauron must have laugh in the middle of the chaos, as the wave engulfed all of Numenor
Please do all other ages of Arda. Others have done them, but I want to see your take on it.
Can you please do a timeline video for the third age?
So, the Second Age lasted for 3,441 years.
That is ONE. LONG. HISTORY! But I love it, thank you for taking the time to present it this way! I have a question. So, in the year 1600 SA, Sauron finally forges the one Ring to Rule Them All, right? The epic battle in which Isildur chops the ring off Sauron’s finger is 3431 SA? And during this roughly 1700 year interval there are all kinds of epic battles where the Dark Lord himself can say, like the rest of us “you win some, you lose some!”? He even gets taken prisoner and frog-marched to Numenor, where he bides his time (for how long?) long enough to snooker the king into making him an advisor there and to convert the populace to worshippers of Morgoth! Etc… Given the almost maniacal urgency with which the Council of Elrond would shove the Fellowship of the Ring out towards Mt. Doom in the 3rd Age, I would have expected much more dire and immediate consequences for his enemies when Sauron had initially completed the forging of his One Ring way, way back in 1600 of the second age. Like, within minutes.
So what am I missing here? Thanks to this channel and others like it, you guys have revived my love of Tolkien’s life-long work on this amazing saga. Now I can’t let it go, thank you very much!
Cheers!
The situation is very different between the two ages. There were only a few Noldor left in Middle-Earth in the late Third Age, but there was an entire kingdom of Noldor (Lindon) in the Second Age. Even Gondor at it's peak (~1000 TA) was only a shadow of the glory of Numenor, and Gondor in the late Third Age was a shadow of it's former glory. Khazad-dum was trashed by Durin's Bane in 1980 TA, and the Dwarves were reduced in strength and numbers.
@@JM-19-86 that’s a very good and concise explanation and I like it! The differences between these 2 ages as you describe them must have really been something! I figured it had to be something like that, but it’s also occurred to me that, along with these external differences, perhaps Sauron had invested so much of his power into the ring that it would take time for him to then acquire the kind of frightful leverage worthy of the ring’s power and which he had intended. And, in the meantime, he still managed to really come out and create some grief: to go from prisoner to advisor in Numenor; then convince its men to start worshiping middle earth’s equivalent of Lucifer; and then get them to attack the good guys in Aman. I’m guessing Iluvatar’s sinking of Numenor subsequently is a good indication of Sauron’s crescendoing mischief. Put another way, when the ring is finally cut from his finger, what’s immediately left of him is practically nothing-suggesting how much power was now in that thing. Fast forward 3 millennia. He’s STILL without that thing, and yet… just imagine the combined power between the ring itself and what Sauron had amassed in the meantime! That makes sense to me. Yikes.
amazing
Well, now that we have 5 episodes of Rings of Power I guess you see that they completely screwed the whole thing.
I'd rather that show didn't exist. Everything I've seen about it has been more and move evidence that it's exactly what I was always afraid it was going to be.
If you think of it as fan fiction written by people who don't understand or like Tolkien's works it is bearable. It's crap but bearable.