yes, by using the bootleger or wee booties there's a slight potential to trimp on a good condition ramp. though it's not as effective as tide turner itself
I’m one of the only people to actually blindly charge in to enemies, it’s about surprise before strategy. Making an escape is easier than people make it out to be. For me I play a really ballsy Demoknight by playing around the frontlines
You forgot to mention how the charge work, how longer you charge, the more damage you do. Use as much as your charge as possible for that juicy crits instead of a mini crit or just normal damage
Except for the tide turner, it only does mini crits. I thought it did crits like the others, and I was like: WHY NO CHARGE CRIT?!? WTF WTF oh... (reads stat)
Well, after 300 hours on Demoman I've found four hybrid- and pure Demoknight loadouts that felt like they were the most effective: *1)The Bootlegger/Booties + The Splendid Screen + The Eyelander.* The Splendid Screen has the fastest passive charge refill rate - 8 seconds compared to 12 on the rest. It becomes 6 if you get a kill and these few extra seconds can save you from dying if you're being chased by enemies, retreating is your only option here because you don't have a grenade launcher to fight back so getting charge back ASAP even if you fail to kill someone is the key. Eyelander synergizes perfectly with the Booties and the S. Screen because gained heads increase your shield bash damage (+20%, caps at 4 heads) and since the S. Screen already has increased shield bash damage (85 at max on 0 heads, compared to 50 on the rest), it scales up to some terrifying benchmarks: you can instant kill a Heavy after a long charge shield bash and a melee swing. Because gained heads increase your passive movement speed it also compounds your odds of getting away alive and decreasing the need in charging any further. The Splendid Screen can be replaced with the Chargin' Targe if Pyros and Soldiers are everywhere. *2)The Bootlegger/Booties + The Tide Turner + The Half-Zatoichi.* The high-risk, high-reward loadout. The whole idea of it is compounding on the on-kill bonuses: should you succeed, you get a lot of health AND charge back. From there, you can immediately rush at the next victim or get away if odds aren't looking good for you. If you have overheal and a charge ready you can even wipe out an entire push squad as long as they are distracted by your teammates. Don't worry, they don't usually notice you until you show them the head of their dear Medic cut off. *3)The grenade launcher of your choice (I personally prefer the Iron Bomber) + The Tide Turner + The Claidheamh Mor.* These shield and sword are made for each other! Extended charges are usually only good when you have the full control over them to navigate through corridors and literally run circles around your enemies while all your charge is restored on kill. This loadout almost outclasses Scouts on CTF because you can bust sentries on your own while zooming through enemies quickly to get that intelligence away or at least where it's easier to pick up for your teammates. Outside of CTF it works in offense-oriented gamemodes (provided you're confident enough on your grenade launcher skills) where you have to be quick and aggressive without having to spend time on deploying your Sticky Jumper and stickies themselves (not to mention you won't have much success with the Sticky Jumper in some claustrophobic maps such as Junction). *4)The grenade launcher of your choice + The Splendid Screen/The Chargin' Targe + The Eyelander.* The less sentry-prone version of the first loadout. I'm not a big fan of the Scotsman's Skullcutter on Demoknight (if you use it in Medieval you are cancer, no offense) because it slows down your charges as well, and the Persian Persuader is straight inferior to the second loadout option unless you don't like taking risks and you don't feel like you're going to survive for long anyway. Thanks for reading!
#3 is my personal favourite, but l've been meaning to switch it out for 4 a lot of the time. l prefer the Iron Bomber, since you can pipe jump with it and, with the tide turner and a generous skybox, you can blast jump into trimp without needing to know shit about the map.
If you want fun over usefulness go with loose cannon, tide turner, and eyelander. If you boop a light class a couple times you can easily finish them with the sword, or on tankier classes a ddonk can lower them to finish. Pyro's have a hard time reflecting cannons due to the fuse. I prefer running sticky jumper and stock melee if I don't want to demoknight though
+papasmerf2 that's what I'm thinking too, though I forgot to mention that in the comment. It's pretty common for me to kill anyone in just 2 hits with the stock melee reskin when I'm fooling around in unserious maps such as 2Fort, Hightower or Banana Bay. It's usually the second swing that becomes critical after landing the first after-bash swing.
While this might not be the best strategy but using the Ullapool Caber as a Demoknight can be fun as you can insta kill most of the classes in one shot with the crit explosion that can also kill players in a radius. The best way you can do this is defending the final point like on the final point of DeGroot Keep where everyone is cramped in a small area which is perfect for get that Crit Ullapool Caber swing.
I personally play with the loadout: iron bomber/charge n' targe/ caber for getting a crit caber can seriously save your ass it triples the regular melee damage to 165 and the explosion damage to 225 more than enough to kill a heavy.
Tbh that's the point of the caber knight, you are a kamikaze. The best strategy i use with it is charging at crowds of enemies, specifically at their heavy so that i kill every light class and medic around them. It's also really good against spawncamping enemies, as you can one shot them, run back to spawn to recharge your caber and charge. Then rinse and repeat until they are cleared out
Most of the time when I demoknight, I see pyros fighting me, and they’re easy to kill but if they know how to airblast, you’re dead. This is why whenever I see pyros who airblast me I just instinctively escape charge
Pro tip:if a pyro (that have a flamethrower that can airblast) that owning your team and you are a demoknight. always charge him when he is distracted (like airblasting a a rocket,etc) that way the pyro doesn't have time to react to your charge
Demoknight is a great "catch and release" play style, you'll learn that it end the end it all amounts up to "should I do this?" Can I hit this group? Is the Medic open? Can I bait this pyro pull out their secondary? It is something you grow into understanding. Also trimping changes the gameset for a Knight. Now positioning is drastically more open on the basis of looking around and seeing a slope. Now You can be anywhere in this fight and it;s just a matter of "should I enter in from here". Demoknight is a very mindgamey playstyle when you have the nuances down. It's the greatest feeling to flank a heavy not prepared for you, to bait a pyro into their seconary, to catch a team not protecting their medic. You cover the job of a scout and a spy pretty well and if the team ain't ready for you, you roll them all hard.
6:41 Yes, and I'm sure the fact your charge was on cooldown had absolutely nothing to do with it. But seriously, this video was useful! Demo's my Defense main, and Demoknight takes up a large part of my time as him too, so this was quite handy!
Here is the tips for sheild Chargin Targe: You should use this shield if you wanna go hybridknight. It means that you have a sword with it, but you primarily use your gernade launcher, the Targe has the strongest resistances out of the 3, The Half Zaroichi goes well with it 2 with hybridknight cuz if your running low you can get 50 extra HP that can overheal and charge to make it easier to get the kill. Splendid Screen: If your a pure Demoknight with the Booties on and a sword, This is the shield for you. It still has a significant amount of resistance attached to it, But it does way more dmg when charging at Someone and recharges faster then the charge does. Tide Turner: If your crazy with Grenade Launcher, and cabers and Eyelanders and use them In unbealivible ways, use this shield, The control you get while charging makes this shield perfect for doing this, And if you get a charge kill you get almost all your charge meter back. This shield is a strong choice despite having the weakest resistances out of the 3.
As hibrid knight I like picking the persian persuator and the loch-n-load, it makes possible to still be destructive as a normal demoman thanks to the faster pipes (plus more dmg to constructions) and I always keep my charge meter full after swings and kills (Being able to do extend-charge after killing enemies or constructions at medium disances).
What i tend to do when using the tide turner is start a charge while facing away from the enemy to make it look like i'm running away, but then do a quick 180 and slam a pill in their face since they'll be moving in a straight and predictable line when chasing me since it's the most direct route.
really late on this, but id say a medic is hard af to kill with a pocket, especially heavies that can basically make food out of you especially with overheal unless the meds either alone or just doesnt check behind when youre flanking them
Demoknight melee weapons for different situations: Bottle (Reskins: Scottish Handshake, Frying Pan, Conscientious Objector, Freedom Staff, Bat Outta Hell, Memory Maker, Ham Shank, Necro Smasher, Crossing Guard, Prinny Machete, Saxxy, and Golden Frying Pan) and Skullcutter =To deal random crits Eyelander (Reskins: The Headtaker, Nessies Nine Iron) = Level up to MAXIMUM POWERMODE Reset melee weapons: Half-Zatoichi (refill health to 100 hp after kill), Persian Pursuader, and Claidheamh Mòr (both refill charge metre) Caber = Taking out groups of enemies Pain Train: Use in CP and Payload maps
Actually don't sleep on stock melee its my personal melee of choice even with crits disabled because charging, firing a pill, then switching and getting a crit swing is suprisingly easy with practice. In my opinion it is an amazing hybrid knight weapon thanks solely to the combo potential the switch speed allows.
Demoknight may not be "competitively viable" but he is HELLA FUN TO PLAY! :D This vid is great! There are some really good advice here, and it helped me a lot with some of the mistakes I made :) Trimp for the Win!
I main tide turner and zato. I want to say this about the limitations bit. Heavies can be taken out by a zato. Get the sneak on them and hit, bash, hit, and theyll be dead in the next 2 hits. With their gun revved up, unless brass beast, They cant turn as fast as you can strafe them for those last two hits. A level 3 sentry also cannot turn as fast as you can strafe. If you turn a corner and hear a sentry targeting you, get to safety, and wait one second for the sentry to go back to its idle animation. If you dash to the sentry and are quick enough, you can sword it to death and strafe it with barely getting touched. Pyros are OP but their players are predictable. They take 3 zato hits I find unless healed.
i love using the eyelander, so what is do is sneak and crit (splendid screen weak enemies for early heads, and then i ambush bigger groups once I have at least 4 of them.
I play demknight quite a bit and i just wanted to say that fighting pyros is pretty easy imo unless they airblast you but then u can easily retreat (i usually use eyelander and a full crit shield so i can take them out quickly)
If you use the Eyelander, The Tide Turner, and the iron bomber (or any grenade launcher that you like) You can play demoman normally And tale advantage of your melee kills Like a medic with the uber saw This can make you an HORRIBLE powerful Hybrid knight since the tide turner gives you really good mobility And if you take advantage and quit the lower health by just gettin a head Not good at every situation, but its hell of fun
if you have a good computer, and a good config, to trimp i use the splendid screen because i can turn just lightly less than tide turner while still being able to get crit melee swings
Fyi, if you have the chargin targe, then the pyro becomes a very delicious target, thanks to the shields resistance to fire. The pyro's only hope of survival is to airblast you away and hope for teammate to help him, or if he just so happens to have the stock shotgun out. Today, I got a 21 kill streak with bootlegger, chargin targe and the eyelander on a CTF match for Turbine.
the half zatoichi is lit a straight upgrade without crits if youre playing full demoknight. any other playstyle and you have a sword that deals damage to you everytime you get your primary / secondary out without killing anybody
This also works as a tutorial for bullies, pick on loners, outnumber people, use your charge to escape or attack, and attack from behind away from others.
Here's tip: learn on which pyros you can go against, some pyros just w+m1 and don't care you're hitting them. Some more advanced pyros unlocked ability to press m2 so you either have to be very careful around them or not engage them at all. ~Experienced pyro who killed so many cocky demoknights
I haven't watched the whole video yet, so you might've already mentioned this, but the Skullcutter gets random crits. You can use it with the Tide Turner and get completely undeserved prepatch Turner kills.
10:38 should've be kill the Sentry and the recommend strategy is kill the Sentry on the top and keep spinning around on its head so it can barely be more good
I play a tanky level up demo, I love to scare the shit out of scouts when they see a Scottish man with a giant sword running about the same speed as them. But if you loose your heads it’s really hard to get em back unless you kill an unlucky sniper (they can collect heads if they headshot a demo???)
I think your issue here is that you play Demoknight like if it was spy, basically prepare for a kill, hunt, then leave out. In that case, why go demoman anyways? spy is faster and more stealthy. I still feel obliged to play it safe, but there are those moments in a groupfight where you could benefit such as a kill spree, if you see a group that is falling back with your team on them, charge and give it all, it what makes demoknight in my opinion so much fun, the random moments where you'll be cutting thru heads in an instant.
Can you do a tips video for hybrid demoman next (I know solar is going to do one but I really like your tips videos). Also this was a very helpful video
Loose cannon + tide turner + 4 head eyelander is OP! Using loose cannon for kb and cannon jumping, tide turner for chain charges and trimping and eyelander for speed and health!
I'm a hybrid knight cause to me it's the most useful and being able to destroy sentries and kill more enemies at once while also having a shield and eyelander or pan to pick of survivors
the half zatoichi in mvm is too much fun, just standing in one spot one shotting everything that aint a giant and gaining all your health back on each swing
10:37 I don’t know if it would have worked, but when I saw the sentry was a level 3, I would have jumped on top of it and tried to kill it while staying out of its attack
i like using the combo of the bootlegger, the splendid screen, and the eyelander, but before i unlocked eyelander i used half zatochi, i dislike it bc the enemy soldier can swap to it and hit you after a rocket jump, and i do caber for funzies, and if theres a sentry, i swap to sticky jumper and iron bomber
I usually use Eyelander and Tide Turner I don't think i actually went much into the shield stats But i think now that i've already used the Tide Turner so much i'm already accommodated to using it's turning ability I usually use it to surprise enemies for a quick low-heads kill or to escape
this is a decent tip however as a long time demoknight main (eyelander, boots and splendid screen) if you have 4 heads its way better to use your charge for offence due to the splendid screens amaizng ability to deal huge dmg, full dmg charge + crit from eye lander = killing 300hp heavy so.
Or you just use the Persian Persauder and charge literally all the time, always charge, don't stop charging. You don't need to stop charging. Slap a dude? Charge. Kill a dude? Charge. Accidently walk over an ammo kit? Charge. The amount of charges you can chain with the Persian Persauder is absolutely god-tier.
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You can trimp with any shield if you do it right
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yes, by using the bootleger or wee booties there's a slight potential to trimp on a good condition ramp. though it's not as effective as tide turner itself
Although it's much easier with the Tide Turner
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Not all the trimp spots, there are tons of spots where you have to turn on a dime which you can only do with the tide turner
i'm more the kind of "is it in your range, it's killable"
So sniper gives you erections?
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That's how you play Pryo.
Yes.
@@helensuarez4514 Lol wut
I’m one of the only people to actually blindly charge in to enemies, it’s about surprise before strategy. Making an escape is easier than people make it out to be.
For me I play a really ballsy Demoknight by playing around the frontlines
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Don't worry ILander. I still prefer your playstyle instead of the more passive, toofty playstyles.
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You forgot to mention how the charge work, how longer you charge, the more damage you do. Use as much as your charge as possible for that juicy crits instead of a mini crit or just normal damage
Except for the tide turner, it only does mini crits. I thought it did crits like the others, and I was like: WHY NO CHARGE CRIT?!? WTF WTF oh... (reads stat)
When you charge look at your Charge Meter if its Green its base damage if its Yellow Mini-Crit if Red Full Crit
@@carteriffic1681 it did at one point, was busted as hell
@@khmasterva6919solar light went into detail on how thats wrong
Well, after 300 hours on Demoman I've found four hybrid- and pure Demoknight loadouts that felt like they were the most effective:
*1)The Bootlegger/Booties + The Splendid Screen + The Eyelander.*
The Splendid Screen has the fastest passive charge refill rate - 8 seconds compared to 12 on the rest. It becomes 6 if you get a kill and these few extra seconds can save you from dying if you're being chased by enemies, retreating is your only option here because you don't have a grenade launcher to fight back so getting charge back ASAP even if you fail to kill someone is the key. Eyelander synergizes perfectly with the Booties and the S. Screen because gained heads increase your shield bash damage (+20%, caps at 4 heads) and since the S. Screen already has increased shield bash damage (85 at max on 0 heads, compared to 50 on the rest), it scales up to some terrifying benchmarks: you can instant kill a Heavy after a long charge shield bash and a melee swing. Because gained heads increase your passive movement speed it also compounds your odds of getting away alive and decreasing the need in charging any further.
The Splendid Screen can be replaced with the Chargin' Targe if Pyros and Soldiers are everywhere.
*2)The Bootlegger/Booties + The Tide Turner + The Half-Zatoichi.*
The high-risk, high-reward loadout. The whole idea of it is compounding on the on-kill bonuses: should you succeed, you get a lot of health AND charge back. From there, you can immediately rush at the next victim or get away if odds aren't looking good for you. If you have overheal and a charge ready you can even wipe out an entire push squad as long as they are distracted by your teammates. Don't worry, they don't usually notice you until you show them the head of their dear Medic cut off.
*3)The grenade launcher of your choice (I personally prefer the Iron Bomber) + The Tide Turner + The Claidheamh Mor.*
These shield and sword are made for each other! Extended charges are usually only good when you have the full control over them to navigate through corridors and literally run circles around your enemies while all your charge is restored on kill. This loadout almost outclasses Scouts on CTF because you can bust sentries on your own while zooming through enemies quickly to get that intelligence away or at least where it's easier to pick up for your teammates. Outside of CTF it works in offense-oriented gamemodes (provided you're confident enough on your grenade launcher skills) where you have to be quick and aggressive without having to spend time on deploying your Sticky Jumper and stickies themselves (not to mention you won't have much success with the Sticky Jumper in some claustrophobic maps such as Junction).
*4)The grenade launcher of your choice + The Splendid Screen/The Chargin' Targe + The Eyelander.*
The less sentry-prone version of the first loadout.
I'm not a big fan of the Scotsman's Skullcutter on Demoknight (if you use it in Medieval you are cancer, no offense) because it slows down your charges as well, and the Persian Persuader is straight inferior to the second loadout option unless you don't like taking risks and you don't feel like you're going to survive for long anyway.
Thanks for reading!
#3 is my personal favourite, but l've been meaning to switch it out for 4 a lot of the time. l prefer the Iron Bomber, since you can pipe jump with it and, with the tide turner and a generous skybox, you can blast jump into trimp without needing to know shit about the map.
If you want fun over usefulness go with loose cannon, tide turner, and eyelander. If you boop a light class a couple times you can easily finish them with the sword, or on tankier classes a ddonk can lower them to finish. Pyro's have a hard time reflecting cannons due to the fuse. I prefer running sticky jumper and stock melee if I don't want to demoknight though
+papasmerf2 that's what I'm thinking too, though I forgot to mention that in the comment. It's pretty common for me to kill anyone in just 2 hits with the stock melee reskin when I'm fooling around in unserious maps such as 2Fort, Hightower or Banana Bay. It's usually the second swing that becomes critical after landing the first after-bash swing.
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In the game he holds the katana with two hands, but on the veiwmodel in the corner he holds it with one
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7:50 also a great tip people used on me in high school
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“Your comp match is ready”
This is so beautiful
While this might not be the best strategy but using the Ullapool Caber as a Demoknight can be fun as you can insta kill most of the classes in one shot with the crit explosion that can also kill players in a radius. The best way you can do this is defending the final point like on the final point of DeGroot Keep where everyone is cramped in a small area which is perfect for get that Crit Ullapool Caber swing.
allahu akbar amirite?
Can the ullapool caber crit with a shield charge? I thought it cant
It also doesnt consider the ulapool as a melee for the charge reset, atleast not the explosion of it
Oh hey StickMaster what’s up
You can one shot most classes with the skullcutter on a crit
YES the demoman can trickstab 12:04
“Don’t jump in to the enemy team”
Me with 14 heads: *laughs maniacally*
Heavy and airblaster: *Trollge*
“Dont be too ballsy” say that to every caber knight
I personally play with the loadout: iron bomber/charge n' targe/ caber for getting a crit caber can seriously save your ass it triples the regular melee damage to 165 and the explosion damage to 225 more than enough to kill a heavy.
@@saltytea7367 great, tell that to mr.hitreg right there
@@deception845 yeah that's the only issue
Tbh that's the point of the caber knight, you are a kamikaze. The best strategy i use with it is charging at crowds of enemies, specifically at their heavy so that i kill every light class and medic around them.
It's also really good against spawncamping enemies, as you can one shot them, run back to spawn to recharge your caber and charge. Then rinse and repeat until they are cleared out
@@saltytea7367 225? I thought the explosion damage was 185, my caberknight charges always deal around 350 damage.
Caberknight
Dreamy: every class
"He's kind of a gimmick
"You're saying that giving up 2 grenade launchers or a sword and shield isn't optimal? Nani?"
Most of the time when I demoknight, I see pyros fighting me, and they’re easy to kill but if they know how to airblast, you’re dead. This is why whenever I see pyros who airblast me I just instinctively escape charge
Same for me a pyro who don't w+m2 is an easy kill but when they know how to play it's almost impossible
One thing for sure-when fighting them,stay away from any type of cliffs. If they can airblast,they'll bully the snot out of you.
Pain in the ass, but when you have 5 heads, EYELANDER UP THEIR ASS
Pro tip:if a pyro (that have a flamethrower that can airblast) that owning your team and you are a demoknight. always charge him when he is distracted (like airblasting a a rocket,etc) that way the pyro doesn't have time to react to your charge
i wish getting airblasted still lets you to airstrafe
here’s my tip: play demoknight like you’re playing a tekken 7 character.
So you want me to play like a kangaroo
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1:18
And fourth section Terror: Caber
The way I like to play demoknight goes something like uhh...
SWING FOR YOUR LIFE AND HOPE FOR THE BEST
Toofty: Don't waste your charge.
Me: *Laughes in Persiaran Persuader and Tide Turner*
Demoknight is a great "catch and release" play style, you'll learn that it end the end it all amounts up to "should I do this?" Can I hit this group? Is the Medic open? Can I bait this pyro pull out their secondary? It is something you grow into understanding.
Also trimping changes the gameset for a Knight. Now positioning is drastically more open on the basis of looking around and seeing a slope. Now You can be anywhere in this fight and it;s just a matter of "should I enter in from here".
Demoknight is a very mindgamey playstyle when you have the nuances down. It's the greatest feeling to flank a heavy not prepared for you, to bait a pyro into their seconary, to catch a team not protecting their medic. You cover the job of a scout and a spy pretty well and if the team ain't ready for you, you roll them all hard.
6:41 Yes, and I'm sure the fact your charge was on cooldown had absolutely nothing to do with it.
But seriously, this video was useful! Demo's my Defense main, and Demoknight takes up a large part of my time as him too, so this was quite handy!
Here is the tips for sheild
Chargin Targe: You should use this shield if you wanna go hybridknight. It means that you have a sword with it, but you primarily use your gernade launcher, the Targe has the strongest resistances out of the 3, The Half Zaroichi goes well with it 2 with hybridknight cuz if your running low you can get 50 extra HP that can overheal and charge to make it easier to get the kill.
Splendid Screen: If your a pure Demoknight with the Booties on and a sword, This is the shield for you. It still has a significant amount of resistance attached to it, But it does way more dmg when charging at Someone and recharges faster then the charge does.
Tide Turner: If your crazy with Grenade Launcher, and cabers and Eyelanders and use them In unbealivible ways, use this shield, The control you get while charging makes this shield perfect for doing this, And if you get a charge kill you get almost all your charge meter back. This shield is a strong choice despite having the weakest resistances out of the 3.
Iron Bomber
Tide Turner
"Clay-De-Moar"
Mostly trimping on 2fort lol.
*Trimping
@@hijeatsdirt Fool, I already said trimping
@@denzy_lolol no you said trumping
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Toofty: dont charge into a group of enemies
Mě with a caber: confused confusing confusion
I've been Trimping in Highertower x100 with booties for a while now and had no idea what the proper term was until today.
6:39 "instead of charging in here which I could easily do"
Doesn't have full charge.
As hibrid knight I like picking the persian persuator and the loch-n-load, it makes possible to still be destructive as a normal demoman thanks to the faster pipes (plus more dmg to constructions) and I always keep my charge meter full after swings and kills (Being able to do extend-charge after killing enemies or constructions at medium disances).
What i tend to do when using the tide turner is start a charge while facing away from the enemy to make it look like i'm running away, but then do a quick 180 and slam a pill in their face since they'll be moving in a straight and predictable line when chasing me since it's the most direct route.
7:15 Toofty trying to charge away from his Comp match
The skull cutter is the best melee weapon for a pure demo knight alongside the splendid screen in my opinion.
After I watch this, a few weeks later I got the tide Turner and the half zatoichi in my dropoff
Splendid screen and the skull cutter using your charge is and should be almost always for attacking
Demoknight makes a great offensive “pick” class for taking out snipers, relocating engineers or medics near full Uber
really late on this, but id say a medic is hard af to kill with a pocket, especially heavies that can basically make food out of you especially with overheal unless the meds either alone or just doesnt check behind when youre flanking them
Demoknight melee weapons for different situations:
Bottle (Reskins: Scottish Handshake, Frying Pan, Conscientious Objector, Freedom Staff, Bat Outta Hell, Memory Maker, Ham Shank, Necro Smasher, Crossing Guard, Prinny Machete, Saxxy, and Golden Frying Pan) and Skullcutter =To deal random crits
Eyelander (Reskins: The Headtaker, Nessies Nine Iron) = Level up to MAXIMUM POWERMODE
Reset melee weapons: Half-Zatoichi (refill health to 100 hp after kill), Persian Pursuader, and Claidheamh Mòr (both refill charge metre)
Caber = Taking out groups of enemies
Pain Train: Use in CP and Payload maps
Actually don't sleep on stock melee its my personal melee of choice even with crits disabled because charging, firing a pill, then switching and getting a crit swing is suprisingly easy with practice.
In my opinion it is an amazing hybrid knight weapon thanks solely to the combo potential the switch speed allows.
The caber is dead
Spyies are really easy to kill.
That one spy: laughs in trickstab
The Ullapool Caber is a God Tier Demoknight Weapon.
Nice! I've been waiting for a Demoknight video! Can you do Huntsman next? Or should I just hope I get lucky and hit?
Demoknight may not be "competitively viable" but he is HELLA FUN TO PLAY! :D
This vid is great! There are some really good advice here, and it helped me a lot with some of the mistakes I made :)
Trimp for the Win!
I main tide turner and zato. I want to say this about the limitations bit.
Heavies can be taken out by a zato. Get the sneak on them and hit, bash, hit, and theyll be dead in the next 2 hits. With their gun revved up, unless brass beast, They cant turn as fast as you can strafe them for those last two hits.
A level 3 sentry also cannot turn as fast as you can strafe. If you turn a corner and hear a sentry targeting you, get to safety, and wait one second for the sentry to go back to its idle animation. If you dash to the sentry and are quick enough, you can sword it to death and strafe it with barely getting touched.
Pyros are OP but their players are predictable. They take 3 zato hits I find unless healed.
i love using the eyelander, so what is do is sneak and crit (splendid screen weak enemies for early heads, and then i ambush bigger groups once I have at least 4 of them.
7:04 I freaked out because that demo is using the exact same loadout as me lmao
I play demknight quite a bit and i just wanted to say that fighting pyros is pretty easy imo unless they airblast you but then u can easily retreat (i usually use eyelander and a full crit shield so i can take them out quickly)
6:00 "I know there's a health pack here."
How rude, the Engineer has a name you know?
I like the get in and gtfo loadout, that being Persian Persuader, 👢 👢, and the Tide Turner.
I find demoknight fun in mvm with the zatoichi cause you can sit where the robots come out and just commit genocide on a biblical scale
If you use the Eyelander, The Tide Turner, and the iron bomber (or any grenade launcher that you like)
You can play demoman normally
And tale advantage of your melee kills
Like a medic with the uber saw
This can make you an HORRIBLE powerful Hybrid knight since the tide turner gives you really good mobility
And if you take advantage and quit the lower health by just gettin a head
Not good at every situation, but its hell of fun
>tells you not to do it
>does it anyway
dECAPITATION TIME
Scotsman’s skullcutter + tide turner
if you have a good computer, and a good config, to trimp i use the splendid screen because i can turn just lightly less than tide turner while still being able to get crit melee swings
Fyi, if you have the chargin targe, then the pyro becomes a very delicious target, thanks to the shields resistance to fire. The pyro's only hope of survival is to airblast you away and hope for teammate to help him, or if he just so happens to have the stock shotgun out. Today, I got a 21 kill streak with bootlegger, chargin targe and the eyelander on a CTF match for Turbine.
the half zatoichi is lit a straight upgrade without crits if youre playing full demoknight. any other playstyle and you have a sword that deals damage to you everytime you get your primary / secondary out without killing anybody
Caberknights never think until the caber explodes
my personal charge usage chart is just a single blue colored circle that says "trimping like a dumbass to look cool and immediately die"
Fun fact all shields can use deroot keeps rock with a torch to trimp up to the castle
And remember kids, be like General Grievous: destroy people but be a wuss and run away most of the time.
"Kinda like a chainstab for Demoknight"
Chainslash? Chainchop? Chaincharge?
This also works as a tutorial for bullies, pick on loners, outnumber people, use your charge to escape or attack, and attack from behind away from others.
i find that the scream and eyelander combo is superb for damage and killstreaks, while a tide turner combo is more fun because of trimping and ect
When you get full boost Eyelander, demoknight just feels OP
Me: I have master the basics and some advance
Random crit: No.
Hitreg: nope
Here's tip: learn on which pyros you can go against, some pyros just w+m1 and don't care you're hitting them. Some more advanced pyros unlocked ability to press m2 so you either have to be very careful around them or not engage them at all.
~Experienced pyro who killed so many cocky demoknights
Got me wanting to play some more demoknight. Very well put together video
I haven't watched the whole video yet, so you might've already mentioned this, but the Skullcutter gets random crits. You can use it with the Tide Turner and get completely undeserved prepatch Turner kills.
10:38 should've be kill the Sentry and the recommend strategy is kill the Sentry on the top and keep spinning around on its head so it can barely be more good
You killed that taunting engi!
I play a tanky level up demo, I love to scare the shit out of scouts when they see a Scottish man with a giant sword running about the same speed as them. But if you loose your heads it’s really hard to get em back unless you kill an unlucky sniper (they can collect heads if they headshot a demo???)
I think your issue here is that you play Demoknight like if it was spy, basically prepare for a kill, hunt, then leave out.
In that case, why go demoman anyways? spy is faster and more stealthy.
I still feel obliged to play it safe, but there are those moments in a groupfight where you could benefit such as a kill spree, if you see a group that is falling back with your team on them, charge and give it all, it what makes demoknight in my opinion so much fun, the random moments where you'll be cutting thru heads in an instant.
Can you do a tips video for hybrid demoman next (I know solar is going to do one but I really like your tips videos). Also this was a very helpful video
oh wow... I found the vid that made all demoknights engage me (as spy) and get trickstabbed 99% of the time. ty mate!
Me half way through watching this:
Wait a minute.. I *hate* demoknight
me with any class/subclass tutorial
When you said ping pong and you did not mention tide turner and claid, that hurt
"save your charge" yes unless you are using the targe n charge or splendid cause u get crits with a long enough charge so you can kill a
I use the zatoichi, simply for the fact that I’m a weeb
I was playing a community hightower last night in a groupof 4 demoknights and god damn we held that fucking tower down
1:24 **sad caberknight noise**
Loose cannon + tide turner + 4 head eyelander is OP! Using loose cannon for kb and cannon jumping, tide turner for chain charges and trimping and eyelander for speed and health!
SquidKing at least put one of those weapons down of what you kill with
Tbh this helps me a lot due to my love but stupidity when it comes to demo knight and i use the same weapons and similar play style to you
Thanks for the video as always great and really informative
I'm a hybrid knight cause to me it's the most useful and being able to destroy sentries and kill more enemies at once while also having a shield and eyelander or pan to pick of survivors
All really good pointers here, very professional too, good job!
the half zatoichi in mvm is too much fun, just standing in one spot one shotting everything that aint a giant and gaining all your health back on each swing
Followed tip 1# and 2# and it really gave me a lot of kills, thx!!
13:06 The soldier killed a BLU pyro not himself lmao
same i use the tide turner and half-zatuichi becuase it is a great combo
10:37 I don’t know if it would have worked, but when I saw the sentry was a level 3, I would have jumped on top of it and tried to kill it while staying out of its attack
i like using the combo of the bootlegger, the splendid screen, and the eyelander, but before i unlocked eyelander i used half zatochi, i dislike it bc the enemy soldier can swap to it and hit you after a rocket jump, and i do caber for funzies, and if theres a sentry, i swap to sticky jumper and iron bomber
I usually use the charge play style so a couple of these tips don’t applied but it is still useful
When u think u got this but u died
10:37
I usually use Eyelander and Tide Turner
I don't think i actually went much into the shield stats
But i think now that i've already used the Tide Turner so much i'm already accommodated to using it's turning ability
I usually use it to surprise enemies for a quick low-heads kill or to escape
this is a decent tip however as a long time demoknight main (eyelander, boots and splendid screen) if you have 4 heads its way better to use your charge for offence due to the splendid screens amaizng ability to deal huge dmg, full dmg charge + crit from eye lander = killing 300hp heavy so.
Man... been here since 200 subs. I knew you were gonna go plces real quick
> Every other class has a rang-
Me: but what about a trolldier?
"Demoknight is a gimmick in Comp"
Meanwhile somewhere in the world he gets proven wrong
Or you just use the Persian Persauder and charge literally all the time, always charge, don't stop charging. You don't need to stop charging. Slap a dude? Charge. Kill a dude? Charge. Accidently walk over an ammo kit? Charge.
The amount of charges you can chain with the Persian Persauder is absolutely god-tier.
0:40 Never toofty! What have you done?
I dont have the tide turner so i cant trimp or its very hard to try to trimp with the other shields
Why is the shield with the spike on it more tanky, and the metal one do more charge damage
Got a domination after a few months because I played demoknight on [Japanese-ish Map]
Thanks man, this really helped me out.
The tide turner and half zatoichi is called demorai