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I'm glad you mentioned that in some cars it might be better to stick with the handbrake after all. I could do this easily in my instructor's diesel, but my tiny, nearly 20 year old petrol car stalls almost every time.
Passed my test yesterday with 16 hrs of lessons and no private practice. My instructor was amazing but these professional and well paced videos certainly played a key part. Thank you
Wow I love this channel. It is not only about how you help beginners learn driving, you set an example on how to make informative videos in general. Thanks a lot.
Yep using handbrake at every stop really isn't practical or fun but I may wait until I pass to use this method to keep me ready for my test. Really good clear cut video!
I also prefered this while learning. But now I drive a petrol car and it can't hold it with clutch only, it wil stall. So I can only use this method on really small inclines.
This is exactly what I've been looking for my instructor taught to mostly use the handbrake but I find it a little difficult and takes up time to move.away frankly I'd rather use the foot brake it's easier and quicker
Good of you to make a video explaining this, but not sure if I agree this is the best way to teach a learner, most will stall trying to find the bite while on the footbrake. Typically you apply the handbrake if stopped for more than a few seconds, or 'catch it on the bite, with gas' just before you come to a stop and about to roll back.
We still prefer to use the handbrake for hill starts, and recommend it for most situations. We do find this technique useful sometimes though, so thought it might be worth a video.
Advance Driving School yeah it can sometimes be useful, tricky thing is when you are new to driving you find it difficult to decide when it is best to do a certain technique and sometimes this leads to confusion and using handbrake when pausing on a flat bit of road or not using it on a steep hill or when fast pull away required.
This is the easier method i figured this out my self because having to use the handbrake for an uphill start kept annoying me Here's a tip if your car has a normal hand brake and if the release button is stuck when your trying to get it down pull it even further up while pressing the release button does the trick every time
Hope you had a great Christmas 🎉🎊 Excellent video😎 I was taught this method as well as using the handbreak by my driving instructor, it's a very useful technique especially at junctions where your not waiting for too long in traffic.
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Thanks for your comment - it's nice to hear how people find our videos useful, even on the other side of the world! We have plenty more ideas for new videos, so stay subscribed - and good luck in your car :-)
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Hello, I hope you have some time to respond. I have a question regardless to clutch wear. Three situations, all uphill starts: 1. First gear, foot on clutch (disengaged), the other on the brake pedal. You simultaneously lift the clutch at the bite point, release brake pedal and apply gas to move. All at the same time. 2. First gear, foot on the clutch (disengaged), the other on the brake pedal. This time you slowly lift the clutch till bite point while brake pedal still being pressed. Once you find it, you release brake pedal, then apply gas to move on. 3. First gear, handbrake on, clutch depressed. You give revs, find the bite point then release handbrake. Now which of the three wears clutch the most? Is there a difference in the clutch between 1) and 2)?
Clutch wear is caused by the friction created when the clutch is at the bite point - especially when engine speed is high or the car cannot move. The easiest way to move off is option 3 (as the car is least likely to stall) but it would cause the most clutch wear - especially if there is a delay in releasing the handbrake. Option 1 would in theory cause the least wear as the car is free to roll as the clutch bites - but needs the most skill from the driver. Therefore this video recommends option 2 as the best balance between the two other options. In reality, clutches usually last about 100,000 miles so just drive however you prefer and don't worry about it!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thanks for the response! Well the family car has about 120k miles so that is why I am being kind of paranoid lol. A last question if possible, is holding the car in uphill with clutch bite point ONLY the SAME as holding the car in uphill with clutch bite point + footbrake? Is car 'resting' on the footbrake in that occasion, hence not putting any strain on the clutch, despite being in the bite point? Or as long as clutch is at bite point the wear is the same regardless?
Basically, holding the clutch at its bite point will always create a little wear, so try to minimise how long you hold it - especially if the car is held stationary by any type of brake.
My car is 1.0 L engine and this method works for me While your feet is on the CLUTCH & BREAK switch to GAS (1.5 rev) -> BITE CLUTCH. for smaller engine cars it’s best to add POWER first then BITE CLUTCH to move off without using hand break. Drive safe!
great video, thanks ! in stop and go traffic on an incline, this would be the best method, right? it seems impractical to do the handbrake method in that scenario
My car has hill assist so I take the foot the break then lift the clutch and add gas at the same rate. It works for me. I can pull away fast and only very steep hills
If you struggle with this method of hill starts, try this way: Clutch Control On Steep Hill Starts | Learn to drive: Car control skills th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html
Every car has it's own feel on the clutch, and it's one of the things a driver must focus on when driving a new car for the first time. However, if the clutch is too difficult, maybe it needs replacing?
Hi, thanks for the great vid! Recently passed my test first time with 5 minors!!! I have a question, I have been taught this method by my instructor and am so comfortable with it and it’s the method I always use, did it throughout my test. I only use the handbreak if it’s an extreme uphill. My question is does this wear your clutch? Is it bad for the clutch? I heard it’s only damaging if you hold the biting point too long which I don’t, it’s just a couple of seconds if that... I just don’t want to end up prematurely damaging the clutch in my own car when I have my own, now that I can! Haha. Thanks I look forward to your reply :)
This won't work in a petrol will it? Seeing as Diesels can move with just clutch. My 2ltr petrol requires gas to move off, it will stall if i clutch up without gas.
The car in the video has a 1.5 petrol engine - so yes, it can work. If you prefer, just use the normal handbrake method in this video: Clutch control on steep hills: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html 👍🏼
How's about showing the kids and new drivers to " downhill start" light gradients and extreme downhill starts. The obvious temptation for new drivers is to coast part of the manoeuvre instead of using the clutch and engine to control speed obviously using the brake too. :-)
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool l don't know how hilly it is your way, in Glasgow there are some extreme hills at 5% and 8 % - which intimidated my daughter initially, but l trained her to get the clutch up, smoothly and under control, taking the car down on the brake to a give way sign. A great exercise for the students/ new drivers. Look forward to seeing your downhill video! :-)
No - as long as you don't hold the clutch at the biting point for too long. Whenever the car is stationary, use the foot brake or hand brake to stop it rolling back - never hold the car on the hill with the clutch as it will overheat and increase wear.
Is it better to keep the heel on the floor (left foot) in order to find the biting point or would you advise me to move the whole foot? The driver seems to be doing the first one.
What about a 45 degree hill drive.. in such roads the vehicle needs to be started on such 45 degree slops.. does the clutch hold the car even for a second if one tires to do this technique
The biting point of the clutch is when the clutch is just starting to transmit drive to the car's wheels. This video explains it in more detail: How To Drive A Manual Car: th-cam.com/video/rKqdFlzILZc/w-d-xo.html
When the car is fully loaded we just need to be more patient as the car starts to move - don't lift the clutch pedal up fully until you have reached walking pace!
This is the technique i often use especially when in crawling traffic going uphill. If i know it will be a while before i need to move, then i use the handbrake method.
That depends on the power of the cars engine, and the skill of the driver. If it is a struggle, use the handbrake method as shown in this video: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html 👍🏼
If I were to do my practical driving test in my personal vehicle which has hill hold assist (upon depressing the break it will hold itself for around 2 seconds) would I be able to use this feature during the test instead of using the handbrake method as the hill hold assist cannot be turned off to my knowledge.
Yes, you can use hill hold assist on the test if you prefer. The car in the video actually has that feature as well, but I find it unpredictable and so have switched it off so I can do hill starts manually 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool I find that when I do it with the handbrake it's typically very juddery when I pull away I think it may be me over compensating on the accelerator, would I have to disclose the fact that the vehicle had hill hold assist at the beginning of the test?
The car is clever enough to spot that we are about to use the clutch bite, so it automatically increases the engine speed! Most modern cars would do this. Btw you can see the ‘rev drop’ you mention in our other hill start video here: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html
We might use more power than normal if the hill is extra steep, but be aware if the clutch slips too long like this it can overheat and shorten its life. If you smell a burning smell, that's just what has happened!
Hi There i subscribed your channel. It's really helpful. I wanted to ask a very important question well its for me, I'm having a test in end of Jan. I pay 24 ph test. But my instructor would charge me £90 on test day. Im afraid that couldn't understand why my instructor is going to charge more as it's too much for me to pay. Pls help anyone.
I guess it depends how long you need to use the instructors car for - as you will need a ‘warm-up’ before the actual test. We always take two hours to do this, complete the test, and take the pupil home.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool many thanks for your reply. Yes it's 2 hours hiring car including pick n drop from home. (45 minutes lesson and 45 mins test), test centre is just 5 min away from my house even. I asked her about this she said it's a standard rate of charge on exam day everybody charge same. I don't have my own car even can't arrange anyother so can't do anything just paying. Pls wish me good luck. Thanks.
The red car in some of our older videos had a foot operated parking brake - however since it was automatic it didn’t cause a problem as our left foot was free to operate it.
Hi, Novice driver here, with a quick question. The technique you describe in the video is what I learned with my instructor. In my instructor's diesel Clio, I could reliably hold the car on even very steep slopes (and I do mean steep - I learned to drive in Sheffield) just with the clutch at the biting point. However, I recently rented a petrol Juke and it seemed impossible to do this. Even with the clutch at a point where with any more release, the car would stall, I would still roll backwards every time I'd get my foot off the footbrake. So, I just started using the handbrake when having to do any kind of hill start. Now, I know that I need to add more gas in petrol cars than in diesel cars when moving off, and particularly when doing hill starts. In the Clio, I would add around 1000rpm for hill starts, while in the Juke I would add around 2000rpm. A question that occurred to me only now (but I can't test it out, since I returned the Juke) - could I hold the Juke on a slope with the clutch at the biting point and with extra gas, but less gas than I'd need for a hill start (so, say, 1000rpm)? So, the idea is there's isn't enough gas to move off, but it's enough to hold the car stationary. I'm guessing this would actually just stall the engine, but perhaps not? Thanks for the great videos!
Yes, it would be possible to hold the Juke on the hill with enough engine power - but that might overheat the clutch and shorten it’s life. As you have discovered, hill starts can be more difficult in petrol cars - so we would use the handbrake technique most of the time 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thanks! I'm thinking I'll probably end up using the "biting point + a little bit of gas" technique in situations where I have to slip the clutch in 1st gear to creep very slowly forward on an uphill, and I then need to stop for just a second (so, basically, in slow-moving uphill traffic). After 3 days with the Juke, having to do a handbrake hill start every 5s in situations like that (not uncommon at peak traffic in Sheffield) became very cumbersome, and it almost feels like wearing out the clutch a little bit more is worth it for a somewhat easier driving experience. On that note, my instructor did explain to me the differences between driving a diesel and a petrol car, but I guess we never considered a car where you can't hold it on a slope just with the clutch. Is this a common thing in petrol cars? Or is this more of a Juke thing? Because, several people from the rental company (by chance, I got the Juke on two separate occasions, at two separate branches) have told me that the Juke is the most unforgiving car for clutch control that they've driven (and, due to their job, they've all driven a hundred different cars).
Some cars are much harder than others! Generally larger engines are better (because they have more torque) but also some clutches are more ‘grabby’ than others. Combine a small engine with a poor clutch and you’re in trouble!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Good to know! Now I know what I can expect, and also what I can do to have a smoother driving experience in cars like that. Thanks a lot for all the answers! :)
This car is petrol too! For steeper hills we usually do it this way: Clutch Control On Steep Hills | Learning to drive: Car control skills th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html
The problem for me is hill start at a roundabout. I’m already stressed about not missing my chance to go... so I want to chop chop, end up stalling and crying. Not cool.
That is a really common problem. Our advice would be to go and practice your hill start technique somewhere quiet until you have it perfect. Then go back to the roundabout and try to stay calm. When you spot your gap, start to move forward a little early so that you have more time to go without rushing. Good luck!
That means that you are using too much clutch bite, or fully engaging the clutch too early. If you can’t get this method to work, try using the handbrake method instead: Clutch control on steep hills: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html 👍🏼
Lifting the clutch pedal too high - the clutch plates will grip the flywheel too much, which could stall the engine. We must find just the right amount of clutch bite - not too much or too little!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool are you talking about using the handbrake?? I want to learn without the handbrake… I’m assuming my clutch control is terrible and there’s nothing wrong with a small engine petrol??
Some cars just don’t have enough engine torque to do ‘no handbrake’ hill starts. Keep practicing - but if you (or your car) can’t move off without stalling then you might have you use the handbrake after all. Good luck 👍🏼
You'd only do this if you were going up hill in slow moving traffic. I wouldn't hold this position if it was stop-start traffic. I'd be wearing out the clutch for no reason other than using the handbrake because it's "inconvenient".
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I'm glad you mentioned that in some cars it might be better to stick with the handbrake after all. I could do this easily in my instructor's diesel, but my tiny, nearly 20 year old petrol car stalls almost every time.
Passed my test yesterday with 16 hrs of lessons and no private practice. My instructor was amazing but these professional and well paced videos certainly played a key part. Thank you
Very well done!!!
The most practical, simple hill start I've come across on the net
I learnt in a car with hill assist and have a car now without it. This is useful thank you 😊
I use this technique everywhere. I have used this technique on steep uphills , which is also a good method.
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Yep using handbrake at every stop really isn't practical or fun but I may wait until I pass to use this method to keep me ready for my test. Really good clear cut video!
This is how my instructor taught me, we never used the handbrake and I prefer this method much more
I also prefered this while learning. But now I drive a petrol car and it can't hold it with clutch only, it wil stall. So I can only use this method on really small inclines.
Thank you. I had a broken handbrake and your video helped me get it to the garage. So helpful. From Australia.
Thanks you, your videos are really helpful and really well made. This hill start tutorial keeps everything simple, I love it.
This is exactly what I've been looking for my instructor taught to mostly use the handbrake but I find it a little difficult and takes up time to move.away frankly I'd rather use the foot brake it's easier and quicker
Good of you to make a video explaining this, but not sure if I agree this is the best way to teach a learner, most will stall trying to find the bite while on the footbrake.
Typically you apply the handbrake if stopped for more than a few seconds, or 'catch it on the bite, with gas' just before you come to a stop and about to roll back.
We still prefer to use the handbrake for hill starts, and recommend it for most situations. We do find this technique useful sometimes though, so thought it might be worth a video.
Advance Driving School yeah it can sometimes be useful, tricky thing is when you are new to driving you find it difficult to decide when it is best to do a certain technique and sometimes this leads to confusion and using handbrake when pausing on a flat bit of road or not using it on a steep hill or when fast pull away required.
but what if you only have to stop on a hill junction for a second
This is the easier method i figured this out my self because having to use the handbrake for an uphill start kept annoying me
Here's a tip if your car has a normal hand brake and if the release button is stuck when your trying to get it down pull it even further up while pressing the release button does the trick every time
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Hope you had a great Christmas 🎉🎊 Excellent video😎 I was taught this method as well as using the handbreak by my driving instructor, it's a very useful technique especially at junctions where your not waiting for too long in traffic.
I just done this in my test on the 24th.. Wow you guys are on it. 👌👏👌🏻
This is so useful. My vehicle only has an electric parking break, and its hill-start assist is not very consistent. Thank you!
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I cleared my driving test today and your videos was really helpful.
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Thanks for your comment - it's nice to hear how people find our videos useful, even on the other side of the world! We have plenty more ideas for new videos, so stay subscribed - and good luck in your car :-)
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Certainly, I will be waiting for you. The quality of videos and the overall viewing experience have always been wonderful. I think you have somewhat improved it again.
This method is very practical and easier,i prefer better this method than the handbrake one.
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This video was very informative, helpful, and patiently made, thanks a lot. My fear of rolling back back has gone.😏😏
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Hello, I hope you have some time to respond. I have a question regardless to clutch wear. Three situations, all uphill starts:
1. First gear, foot on clutch (disengaged), the other on the brake pedal. You simultaneously lift the clutch at the bite point, release brake pedal and apply gas to move. All at the same time.
2. First gear, foot on the clutch (disengaged), the other on the brake pedal. This time you slowly lift the clutch till bite point while brake pedal still being pressed. Once you find it, you release brake pedal, then apply gas to move on.
3. First gear, handbrake on, clutch depressed. You give revs, find the bite point then release handbrake.
Now which of the three wears clutch the most? Is there a difference in the clutch between 1) and 2)?
Clutch wear is caused by the friction created when the clutch is at the bite point - especially when engine speed is high or the car cannot move. The easiest way to move off is option 3 (as the car is least likely to stall) but it would cause the most clutch wear - especially if there is a delay in releasing the handbrake. Option 1 would in theory cause the least wear as the car is free to roll as the clutch bites - but needs the most skill from the driver. Therefore this video recommends option 2 as the best balance between the two other options. In reality, clutches usually last about 100,000 miles so just drive however you prefer and don't worry about it!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thanks for the response! Well the family car has about 120k miles so that is why I am being kind of paranoid lol.
A last question if possible, is holding the car in uphill with clutch bite point ONLY the SAME as holding the car in uphill with clutch bite point + footbrake?
Is car 'resting' on the footbrake in that occasion, hence not putting any strain on the clutch, despite being in the bite point? Or as long as clutch is at bite point the wear is the same regardless?
Basically, holding the clutch at its bite point will always create a little wear, so try to minimise how long you hold it - especially if the car is held stationary by any type of brake.
Thanks for the videos now I am fully aware what to do.
Thanks for your video !
Thanks 😊 , very clear video about hill starts
My car is 1.0 L engine and this method works for me
While your feet is on the CLUTCH & BREAK
switch to GAS (1.5 rev) -> BITE CLUTCH. for smaller engine cars it’s best to add POWER first then BITE CLUTCH to move off without using hand break. Drive safe!
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Works in my 2004 1.2L vauxhall corsa
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It will impact clutch performance/high wear& tear
great video, thanks ! in stop and go traffic on an incline, this would be the best method, right? it seems impractical to do the handbrake method in that scenario
Yes, exactly
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Great vid!!
Thanks, good video.
I find that when my foot is on the break and I'm trying to find the bite the car makes a growling noise. Is this supposed to happen?
That probably means that you have the clutch biting a little too much - just push the clutch down a little until the noise stops 👍🏼
My car has hill assist so I take the foot the break then lift the clutch and add gas at the same rate. It works for me. I can pull away fast and only very steep hills
Thanks for this video btw let this guy know the uses of front and side glasses
Nice video, In my car it's hard to find baiting point and my car rollback.plz give me some suggestions
If you struggle with this method of hill starts, try this way: Clutch Control On Steep Hill Starts | Learn to drive: Car control skills th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the wonderful explanation !! I loved the beauty of the place.. may I know which country it is ?
We live in the UK 🇬🇧 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thanks..I would love to visit someday !
It's brilliant...I love this video....But the problem is what if you drive a manual gearbox of Suzuki car ??? The clutch is really difficult......
Every car has it's own feel on the clutch, and it's one of the things a driver must focus on when driving a new car for the first time. However, if the clutch is too difficult, maybe it needs replacing?
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool mmmmmm.....maybe ???
Hi, thanks for the great vid!
Recently passed my test first time with 5 minors!!! I have a question, I have been taught this method by my instructor and am so comfortable with it and it’s the method I always use, did it throughout my test. I only use the handbreak if it’s an extreme uphill. My question is does this wear your clutch? Is it bad for the clutch? I heard it’s only damaging if you hold the biting point too long which I don’t, it’s just a couple of seconds if that... I just don’t want to end up prematurely damaging the clutch in my own car when I have my own, now that I can! Haha. Thanks I look forward to your reply :)
Well done for passing! As you said, as long as you try to minimise the time you hold the clutch at the biting point it won’t cause any problems. 🚙👍🏼
This won't work in a petrol will it? Seeing as Diesels can move with just clutch. My 2ltr petrol requires gas to move off, it will stall if i clutch up without gas.
The car in the video has a 1.5 petrol engine - so yes, it can work. If you prefer, just use the normal handbrake method in this video: Clutch control on steep hills: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thanks!
How's about showing the kids and new drivers to " downhill start" light gradients and extreme downhill starts.
The obvious temptation for new drivers is to coast part of the manoeuvre instead of using the clutch and engine to control speed obviously using the brake too. :-)
Good idea thanks 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool l don't know how hilly it is your way, in Glasgow there are some extreme hills at 5% and 8 % - which intimidated my daughter initially, but l trained her to get the clutch up, smoothly and under control, taking the car down on the brake to a give way sign. A great exercise for the students/ new drivers.
Look forward to seeing your downhill video! :-)
Hello, I like your videos a lot with beautiful feet-movement demonstration . Thank you for sharing!
Where is this school located/based I love it I wish to come I learn some Technic of driving in this Chanel how much full course we are at Swaziland
Thanks. We are in England, so a fair distance from you!
@AdvanceDrivingSchool I was thought you are in Africa 😯
Do I have to worry about burning/wearing out my clutch if I do this repeatedly? (i.e. stuck in slow moving uphill traffic)
No - as long as you don't hold the clutch at the biting point for too long. Whenever the car is stationary, use the foot brake or hand brake to stop it rolling back - never hold the car on the hill with the clutch as it will overheat and increase wear.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thanks for the advice!
Is it better to keep the heel on the floor (left foot) in order to find the biting point or would you advise me to move the whole foot?
The driver seems to be doing the first one.
It’s really just down to personal preference - why not try both methods and see what works best for you.
What about a 45 degree hill drive.. in such roads the vehicle needs to be started on such 45 degree slops.. does the clutch hold the car even for a second if one tires to do this technique
Whilst it is possible, we prefer to use this method for steep hills: Clutch control on steep hills: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html 👍🏼
Is the biting when you level the brake and the accelerator, like they are both at the same level ?
The biting point of the clutch is when the clutch is just starting to transmit drive to the car's wheels. This video explains it in more detail: How To Drive A Manual Car: th-cam.com/video/rKqdFlzILZc/w-d-xo.html
I think you should use smallest feet possible for the pedal takes.
But I only have one set of feet!
How about with many passengers / items on compartment
When the car is fully loaded we just need to be more patient as the car starts to move - don't lift the clutch pedal up fully until you have reached walking pace!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool thank you for the reply. I am still learning manual cars and still having trouble if i am fully loaded vs. stiff hills
Can you make a video how to to move in slow moving traffic on a hill?
Surely it’s just lots of hill starts?
Advance Driving School oh yh i didnt think of it like that i havent actually done it yet
Thanks for uploading the video how about the automatic car because I’m learning auto with ultimet driving academy with Sarah cannon
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This is the technique i often use especially when in crawling traffic going uphill. If i know it will be a while before i need to move, then i use the handbrake method.
I put my clutch down and apply the footbreak. And quickly go the gas and slowly lift the clutch up. Less work
@@137ahmed9 wouldnt the car roll back in the time you are lifting the clutch up?
What place is this? It looks good.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk 👍🏼
Isn't this method bad for clutch?
What is the best and safest method for our car in a slope or hilly road? Traditional hand brake method or half clutch method?!
Just use the technique that you prefer - as long as you move away smoothly then either is fine.
Does this work on steep hills?
That depends on the power of the cars engine, and the skill of the driver. If it is a struggle, use the handbrake method as shown in this video: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html 👍🏼
If I were to do my practical driving test in my personal vehicle which has hill hold assist (upon depressing the break it will hold itself for around 2 seconds) would I be able to use this feature during the test instead of using the handbrake method as the hill hold assist cannot be turned off to my knowledge.
Yes, you can use hill hold assist on the test if you prefer. The car in the video actually has that feature as well, but I find it unpredictable and so have switched it off so I can do hill starts manually 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool I find that when I do it with the handbrake it's typically very juddery when I pull away I think it may be me over compensating on the accelerator, would I have to disclose the fact that the vehicle had hill hold assist at the beginning of the test?
No, there is no need to tell the examiner about hill assist or any of the cars other features. Just drive safely!
I don't understand, why your rpm didn't drop slightly at the bitting point but instead increased? In my car rpms drops.
The car is clever enough to spot that we are about to use the clutch bite, so it automatically increases the engine speed! Most modern cars would do this. Btw you can see the ‘rev drop’ you mention in our other hill start video here: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html
I want to know if u can use accelerating with more power then normal
We might use more power than normal if the hill is extra steep, but be aware if the clutch slips too long like this it can overheat and shorten its life. If you smell a burning smell, that's just what has happened!
daemn which country is this. im seeing many suzuki swift there. what it cost there? im having same P manual 😥🤣
We live in the U.K. 👍🏼
This is the best technique no doubt
Using hand brakes is lame💯
Hi There i subscribed your channel. It's really helpful. I wanted to ask a very important question well its for me, I'm having a test in end of Jan. I pay 24 ph test. But my instructor would charge me £90 on test day. Im afraid that couldn't understand why my instructor is going to charge more as it's too much for me to pay. Pls help anyone.
I guess it depends how long you need to use the instructors car for - as you will need a ‘warm-up’ before the actual test. We always take two hours to do this, complete the test, and take the pupil home.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool many thanks for your reply. Yes it's 2 hours hiring car including pick n drop from home. (45 minutes lesson and 45 mins test), test centre is just 5 min away from my house even. I asked her about this she said it's a standard rate of charge on exam day everybody charge same. I don't have my own car even can't arrange anyother so can't do anything just paying. Pls wish me good luck. Thanks.
Good luck 🚙👍🏼
Does this technique work in a petrol car ?
This car is petrol - so yes!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool I am glad to hear that , thank you !
My parking brake is on a pedal instead of a hand lever, being that I'm here in the US. Guess I'll have to figure out something.
The red car in some of our older videos had a foot operated parking brake - however since it was automatic it didn’t cause a problem as our left foot was free to operate it.
Hi,
Novice driver here, with a quick question.
The technique you describe in the video is what I learned with my instructor. In my instructor's diesel Clio, I could reliably hold the car on even very steep slopes (and I do mean steep - I learned to drive in Sheffield) just with the clutch at the biting point. However, I recently rented a petrol Juke and it seemed impossible to do this. Even with the clutch at a point where with any more release, the car would stall, I would still roll backwards every time I'd get my foot off the footbrake.
So, I just started using the handbrake when having to do any kind of hill start.
Now, I know that I need to add more gas in petrol cars than in diesel cars when moving off, and particularly when doing hill starts. In the Clio, I would add around 1000rpm for hill starts, while in the Juke I would add around 2000rpm.
A question that occurred to me only now (but I can't test it out, since I returned the Juke) - could I hold the Juke on a slope with the clutch at the biting point and with extra gas, but less gas than I'd need for a hill start (so, say, 1000rpm)? So, the idea is there's isn't enough gas to move off, but it's enough to hold the car stationary. I'm guessing this would actually just stall the engine, but perhaps not?
Thanks for the great videos!
Yes, it would be possible to hold the Juke on the hill with enough engine power - but that might overheat the clutch and shorten it’s life. As you have discovered, hill starts can be more difficult in petrol cars - so we would use the handbrake technique most of the time 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thanks!
I'm thinking I'll probably end up using the "biting point + a little bit of gas" technique in situations where I have to slip the clutch in 1st gear to creep very slowly forward on an uphill, and I then need to stop for just a second (so, basically, in slow-moving uphill traffic). After 3 days with the Juke, having to do a handbrake hill start every 5s in situations like that (not uncommon at peak traffic in Sheffield) became very cumbersome, and it almost feels like wearing out the clutch a little bit more is worth it for a somewhat easier driving experience.
On that note, my instructor did explain to me the differences between driving a diesel and a petrol car, but I guess we never considered a car where you can't hold it on a slope just with the clutch. Is this a common thing in petrol cars? Or is this more of a Juke thing? Because, several people from the rental company (by chance, I got the Juke on two separate occasions, at two separate branches) have told me that the Juke is the most unforgiving car for clutch control that they've driven (and, due to their job, they've all driven a hundred different cars).
Some cars are much harder than others! Generally larger engines are better (because they have more torque) but also some clutches are more ‘grabby’ than others. Combine a small engine with a poor clutch and you’re in trouble!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Good to know! Now I know what I can expect, and also what I can do to have a smoother driving experience in cars like that. Thanks a lot for all the answers! :)
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As I’ve got petrol car to learn gas before bite is always way to go surely
This car is petrol too! For steeper hills we usually do it this way: Clutch Control On Steep Hills | Learning to drive: Car control skills th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html
I have a old petrol car and when i do this and i find the biting point my rpms drop and the car wants to stall... Do you have any advice
Probably better to use the normal handbrake method in your car: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html
The problem for me is hill start at a roundabout. I’m already stressed about not missing my chance to go... so I want to chop chop, end up stalling and crying. Not cool.
That is a really common problem. Our advice would be to go and practice your hill start technique somewhere quiet until you have it perfect. Then go back to the roundabout and try to stay calm. When you spot your gap, start to move forward a little early so that you have more time to go without rushing. Good luck!
What about snow skills
Have you watched this? Driving In Snow: th-cam.com/video/tyfXQqSoogk/w-d-xo.html
my throttle feels choppy like i cant keep a steady rev
When i release the clutch slowly while doing the technique, i stalls😭😭
That means that you are using too much clutch bite, or fully engaging the clutch too early. If you can’t get this method to work, try using the handbrake method instead: Clutch control on steep hills: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool what is mean by using too much clutch bite??
Lifting the clutch pedal too high - the clutch plates will grip the flywheel too much, which could stall the engine. We must find just the right amount of clutch bite - not too much or too little!
Can I just point out my car rolls on steep hills the point where it bites is much higher and needs gas or just dies 😂
In that case we would stick to this technique:
Clutch control on steep hills: th-cam.com/video/RiS4wbi5AC0/w-d-xo.html 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool are you talking about using the handbrake?? I want to learn without the handbrake… I’m assuming my clutch control is terrible and there’s nothing wrong with a small engine petrol??
Some cars just don’t have enough engine torque to do ‘no handbrake’ hill starts. Keep practicing - but if you (or your car) can’t move off without stalling then you might have you use the handbrake after all. Good luck 👍🏼
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I wouldn't recommend this for a test, using a handbrake is safer and better practice. Also wouldn't recommend it in general. It is handy though.
You'd only do this if you were going up hill in slow moving traffic. I wouldn't hold this position if it was stop-start traffic. I'd be wearing out the clutch for no reason other than using the handbrake because it's "inconvenient".
this is way safer than the handbrake method
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i passed my test on third go on 20/12/2018 manual
- 10/10/2018 i failed first time cuse i did one silly faults (didnt give priority to the oncoming car) i had 6 minors and 1 serious ;FAILED
-07/11/2018 on second test i did another faults on parallel park (lake of observation ) i had 12 minors and 1 serious ; FAILED
- 20/12/2018 on third attempt i passed with only 5 minors faults.
-so never give up
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it is so fast