Frazier was on a horse and moving irratically in Murphy's sight picture. Riflemen many times got clean hits at 400 yds, on British troops advancing in straight lines. Jim Chambers was an apprentice of the legendary Hacker Martin.
Ive noticed a severe energy fall off around 400 yards with round ball. Ive sent conicals much further on several occasions. My current longest range shot is 700 yards with a Pedersoli Kentucky Long Rifle, 50 caliber. A Video was made. The range i used no longer goes out that far.
Fine rifle. A little advice and insight... I recommend Swiss powder. It gives faster and more consistent velocities. I also run more powder. 70 gr of Swiss 3f gives me excellent groups in my .45 Bedford county rifle. I also run a snug fitting patch/ball combo... .445 ball with .018 pillow ticking patches. Snug enough to be accurate but I can still start it with the butt of my knife, no short starter needed.
Anyway you could build or have access to a model 1717 “charleville” musket? I really like this model and have seen some Indian repros on sites like Middlesex trading company and would love to see your take on this particular musket. Most charleville videos seem to focus on the 1766 and 1777 models but there’s something about that first one that I really like. Not sure if your interested in such a thing but I thought I’d ask. Thanks!
Hi Jon, yes indeed the 1717 is doable. Parts can be had from an American company called The Rifle Shoppe. Please fell free to email me at hoffmanreproductions@yahoo.com for pricing an further info. Thank you! Ben
I love your videos, one suggestion, maybe have your camera on your right side so we can watch your priming procedure. I don't own a flinter as Black powder is extremely hard to acquire up here in canada. I've started to experiment with home grown BP . We have Hawken percussion rifles, but I would love to locate and own a long rifle flintlock.
I hunt with a Hawkins 54 cal rifle and 10ga double muzzle loading shotgun. I'd like a good flintlock but am undecided on a smooth bore or rifled variant for Montana. I know it must be 54 cal or bigger.......
Really nice video. The intro music was a good fit to the video (and made me go watch Master and Commander again, for about the hundredth time, thanks, lol). I do have a quick question - I noticed you used the butt of the ramrod to seat the bullet. Wouldn't that damage the round ball enough to throw off your accuracy? But I'll say this - I've shot flintlocks enough times to have a pretty decent feel for lock time, you have a nice rifle on your hands. That thing had an almost imperceptible lock time. Very nice!
Thank you! Yes indeed on the ramrod. Most likely I was focusing on filming to much rather than shooting lol! Thank you for the kind words on the gun as well & glad you liked the video.
Wetzel is correct. I've read everything I could about him. One book claims he went a little crazy when he got older. I always wondered if it may have been from carrying lead in his mouth so much. I'm sure he swallowed a few over the years.
They are controversial for sure. There is one housed in a museum in Massachusetts I believe, It has the date 1758 as well as styling from the 18th century along with what seems to be, the correct ware & patina. Most Folks are split on if it dates from the 1700's. To correct myself, there is no known writing from the time period describing them or their use. However, there is also very little that was ever recorded on loading practices from the time period.
Ben, I'm always a fan! But some of that information you have is extremely dated and somewhat erroneous? The German or european "Jager" rifle, was not always a short arrangement.? They were short when Alpine use was required. But they had many guns well in excess of 42 and 44 in. Yes even in the early portions of the eighteenth-century! There are rifles known to be imported from Germany as early as the late 1720s, and the initial ones came through with a 37 or 38 inch barrels, in the Philadelphia area. The Americans did not want those and already wanted the longer barrel variant! This is very well-documented by Bob Lienemann. Brass and forged iron were both seen in the German guns. The Pennsylvania guns were ..with VERY little exception...mounted in brass.. Iron mounts...even in the EIGHTEENTH century south were also SUPER RARE. The iron mounted tennessee rifles were MUCH later...usually post 1820. Many people think iron mounts were a big 18th "Southern thing". Not until late 1st quarter and early second quater of the 19th century. Ive been in this game for 45 years and can only thing of 1 or 2 iron mtd 18th century guns. They had to be forged and filed in the 18th century..that was EXPENSIVE!!. Backwoods gunsmiths could melt brass in the period and POUR brass mounts in a sand mould. MUCH quicker and economical. Lancaster county Penna being one of the earliest gunmaker centers. All good...
It seems to me that you are I'm doing more than seating the ball. You're just wasting time. Just push the ball down onto the charge and then you're set go on to the next procedure. And yes you could use some pre-soaked potassium nitrate coffee filter paper and roll it out in tubes then poirier measured powder in 1 after you have pinched 1 end and twisted it with pork fat. Then you twist the other end with pork fat and then you have your paper cartridge pack. Or do you need to reload you just rip off the end with your teeth and pour the powder down the barrel then crumple up the paper and shove it down there too then using your ball block, load your patched ball down there and prime your pan and you're ready to go. You also may try choking up with your left hand just up underneath just forward of the trigger guard then touching your elbow to your side then as you bring your sight picture to the Target is it gets close to your target depending on how light your trigger is you start squeezing the trigger. This way you can fire every time you take a if you have a semi-automatic. But even if it's just one shot with your muzzle loader this method works. The Germans call it the schuetzen method.
I've heard that most of the gun smiths that made weapons for the colonies during the Revolution were Oneida indians or other native americans. Please research this if you will. I'd like to know the truth. Thank You!
Rifling was invented in the year in 1475.my great great great grand father made ky rifles,diferent kinds of guns.He would bee a 215 years old horned in Nov 10 1806. He owned many acres of land. I like your presentation.I like history guns and familytrees.David Back God bless you. ,David Back.
Frazier was on a horse and moving irratically in Murphy's sight picture. Riflemen many times got clean hits at 400 yds, on British troops advancing in straight lines. Jim Chambers was an apprentice of the legendary Hacker Martin.
Those American patriots wouid be turning in there grave if they knew what was happening today.
Beautiful video as always!
Thank you! Yes, I'm sure they would be shocked.
I have a new rifle barrel kentucky long rife in .440 cal. I shoot 60 to 90 with a 127 gr round ball and 120+ with a 220 gr mini ball.
Nice presentation. Love shooting my flinters.
Thank you! They are fun!
Excellent video! Love history!
Thank you!
Actually Thompson Battalion was more of the in the leed which was absorbed into Daniel Morgan Brigade
Excellent presentation!
Thank you!
Ive noticed a severe energy fall off around 400 yards with round ball. Ive sent conicals much further on several occasions. My current longest range shot is 700 yards with a Pedersoli Kentucky Long Rifle, 50 caliber. A Video was made. The range i used no longer goes out that far.
Wow! That is some long distance shooting for sure!
Fine rifle.
A little advice and insight... I recommend Swiss powder. It gives faster and more consistent velocities. I also run more powder. 70 gr of Swiss 3f gives me excellent groups in my .45 Bedford county rifle. I also run a snug fitting patch/ball combo... .445 ball with .018 pillow ticking patches. Snug enough to be accurate but I can still start it with the butt of my knife, no short starter needed.
Thank you for sharing. Only using my homemade powder now a days.
Anyway you could build or have access to a model 1717 “charleville” musket? I really like this model and have seen some Indian repros on sites like Middlesex trading company and would love to see your take on this particular musket. Most charleville videos seem to focus on the 1766 and 1777 models but there’s something about that first one that I really like. Not sure if your interested in such a thing but I thought I’d ask. Thanks!
Hi Jon, yes indeed the 1717 is doable. Parts can be had from an American company called The Rifle Shoppe. Please fell free to email me at hoffmanreproductions@yahoo.com for pricing an further info. Thank you! Ben
I love your videos, one suggestion, maybe have your camera on your right side so we can watch your priming procedure. I don't own a flinter as Black powder is extremely hard to acquire up here in canada. I've started to experiment with home grown BP . We have Hawken percussion rifles, but I would love to locate and own a long rifle flintlock.
Thank you! Will keep that in mind next time and show some priming shots.
14:50 Not supposed to pack it like that. Just firmly to the bottom.
Great video, thanks 👍
Beautiful woods, what state? Here in east Texas we have heavy brush in most woods
Central Ohio. Thank ya!
I hunt with a Hawkins 54 cal rifle and 10ga double muzzle loading shotgun. I'd like a good flintlock but am undecided on a smooth bore or rifled variant for Montana. I know it must be 54 cal or bigger.......
Both are fun! Depends how far you will be taking shots. Over 100 yards, I would go with a rifle.
@@HoffmanReproductions Yeah shots here can get 100 plus, ok.
Really nice video. The intro music was a good fit to the video (and made me go watch Master and Commander again, for about the hundredth time, thanks, lol). I do have a quick question - I noticed you used the butt of the ramrod to seat the bullet. Wouldn't that damage the round ball enough to throw off your accuracy? But I'll say this - I've shot flintlocks enough times to have a pretty decent feel for lock time, you have a nice rifle on your hands. That thing had an almost imperceptible lock time. Very nice!
Thank you! Yes indeed on the ramrod. Most likely I was focusing on filming to much rather than shooting lol! Thank you for the kind words on the gun as well & glad you liked the video.
People always comment about a flinters lock time. I just smile and tell 'em that it goes away when you actually own one.
wasn't Simon Kenton the man whose gun was always loaded? Wetzel was la vent de la morte or deathwind
I thought it was Wetzel but never hurts to double check.
Wetzel is correct. I've read everything I could about him. One book claims he went a little crazy when he got older. I always wondered if it may have been from carrying lead in his mouth so much. I'm sure he swallowed a few over the years.
What references to bullet boards do you have from the 18th century? I've never come across one.
They are controversial for sure. There is one housed in a museum in Massachusetts I believe, It has the date 1758 as well as styling from the 18th century along with what seems to be, the correct ware & patina. Most Folks are split on if it dates from the 1700's. To correct myself, there is no known writing from the time period describing them or their use. However, there is also very little that was ever recorded on loading practices from the time period.
Great video
Thank you!
Thank you for this good job time.
Our pleasure! Thank you!
Im getting a Virginia rifle made. Can't wait to try it out when it's done. It will be a 40 caliber.
They are fun! Happy shooting!
Ben, I'm always a fan! But some of that information you have is extremely dated and somewhat erroneous? The German or european "Jager" rifle, was not always a short arrangement.? They were short when Alpine use was required. But they had many guns well in excess of 42 and 44 in. Yes even in the early portions of the eighteenth-century! There are rifles known to be imported from Germany as early as the late 1720s, and the initial ones came through with a 37 or 38 inch barrels, in the Philadelphia area. The Americans did not want those and already wanted the longer barrel variant! This is very well-documented by Bob Lienemann. Brass and forged iron were both seen in the German guns. The Pennsylvania guns were ..with VERY little exception...mounted in brass.. Iron mounts...even in the EIGHTEENTH century south were also SUPER RARE. The iron mounted tennessee rifles were MUCH later...usually post 1820. Many people think iron mounts were a big 18th "Southern thing". Not until late 1st quarter and early second quater of the 19th century. Ive been in this game for 45 years and can only thing of 1 or 2 iron mtd 18th century guns. They had to be forged and filed in the 18th century..that was EXPENSIVE!!. Backwoods gunsmiths could melt brass in the period and POUR brass mounts in a sand mould. MUCH quicker and economical. Lancaster county Penna being one of the earliest gunmaker centers. All good...
Thanks for sharing John! Always appreciated.
Just trying to help my friend..!!
Thank you! And thanks for watching! Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.
Nice intro, had a cool Last of the Mohicans movie vibe to it! Were these rare among the colonists and most used fowlers or is that myth?
Glad you liked it! Many carried fowlers but in the outlying areas, rifles were very prevalent.
You're very good at this. It always surprises me how much misinformation is out there about this. Keep it up.
I appreciate that!
It seems to me that you are I'm doing more than seating the ball. You're just wasting time. Just push the ball down onto the charge and then you're set go on to the next procedure. And yes you could use some pre-soaked potassium nitrate coffee filter paper and roll it out in tubes then poirier measured powder in 1 after you have pinched 1 end and twisted it with pork fat. Then you twist the other end with pork fat and then you have your paper cartridge pack. Or do you need to reload you just rip off the end with your teeth and pour the powder down the barrel then crumple up the paper and shove it down there too then using your ball block, load your patched ball down there and prime your pan and you're ready to go. You also may try choking up with your left hand just up underneath just forward of the trigger guard then touching your elbow to your side then as you bring your sight picture to the Target is it gets close to your target depending on how light your trigger is you start squeezing the trigger. This way you can fire every time you take a if you have a semi-automatic. But even if it's just one shot with your muzzle loader this method works. The Germans call it the schuetzen method.
Cool
Thanks!
I've heard that most of the gun smiths that made weapons for the colonies during the Revolution were Oneida indians or other native americans. Please research this if you will. I'd like to know the truth. Thank You!
Rifling was invented in the year in 1475.my great great great grand father made ky rifles,diferent kinds of guns.He would bee a 215 years old horned in Nov 10 1806. He owned many acres of land. I like your presentation.I like history guns and familytrees.David Back God bless you. ,David Back.
Very cool! Thank you for sharing & watching! God bless you as well.
min of deer
Then, one day, he was shooting at some food.......
Great video