Dude in quarantine the nba and the refs should make short videos explaining some of the more controversial or misunderstood rules of basketball. Maybe weekly videos on topics such as traveling, over and back, goaltending.
They already have something like that on nba.com. But, like Ronnie Nunn, they generally obscure their points as much as elucidate them. edit: videorulebook.nba.com/
Or, you could read the traveling section of the rule book and stop listening to coach Nick and Ronnie Nunn Here you go. It's less than a page. Read it and you'll realize just how full of shit those 2 are, and how easy it actually is to determine what is a travel. Just take 10 minutes to slowly absorb this section, and you will never have another question again... except "When does the gather occur" On that front, it CERTAINLY occurs after you touch the ball but before you put the second hand on the ball. That much everyone agrees on. The general understanding (that hasn't been put into words in the rule book) is "When a player no longer has the option to continue to dribble, the gather has occurred' meaning... if the player were to dribble again, it would be either a carry or a double-dribble. So with that in mind, here's the traveling section. Bet it's shorter and simpler than you thought. official.nba.com/rule-no-10-violations-and-penalties/ Section XIII-Traveling A player who receives the ball while standing still may pivot, using either foot as the pivot foot. A player who gathers the ball while progressing may take (1) two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball, or (2) if he has not yet dribbled, one step prior to releasing the ball. A player who gathers the ball while dribbling may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing, or shooting the ball. The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball. The second step occurs after the first step when the other foot touches the floor, or both feet touch the floor simultaneously. A player who comes to a stop on step one when both feet are on the floor or touch the floor simultaneously may pivot using either foot as his pivot. If he jumps with both feet he must release the ball before either foot touches the floor. A player who lands with one foot first may only pivot using that foot. A progressing player who jumps off one foot on the first step may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step. In this situation, the player may not pivot with either foot and if one or both feet leave the floor the ball must be released before either returns to the floor. In starting a dribble after (1) receiving the ball while standing still, or (2) coming to a legal stop, the ball must be out of the player’s hand before the pivot foot is raised off the floor. If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor. If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball. A player who falls to the floor while holding the ball, or while coming to a stop, may not gain an advantage by sliding. A player who attempts a field goal may not be the first to touch the ball if it fails to touch the backboard, basket ring or another player. A player may not be the first to touch his own pass unless the ball touches his back- board, basket ring or another player. Upon ending his dribble or gaining control of the ball, a player may not touch the floor consecutively with the same foot (hop). PENALTY: Loss of ball. The ball is awarded to the opposing team on the sideline, nearest spot of the violation but no nearer the baseline than the foul line extended.
@@classyassmothafucka8890 :"... except .When does the gather occur' On that front, it CERTAINLY occurs after you touch the ball but before you put the second hand on the ball. That much everyone agrees on." Um.... no. A gather can occur when, not "before", a second hand is placed on the ball. "For a player who is in control of the ball while dribbling, the gather is defined as the point where a player does any one of the following: Puts two hands on the ball, or otherwise permits the ball to come to rest, while he is in control of it..." official.nba.com/new-language-in-nba-rule-book-regarding-traveling-violations/
I used to the hop step double clutch layup as my go to move. It would hurt my ankle now if im doing it. Now, a luka shot fake and high floaters would do.
@@themohas3243 I wish the NBA and FIBA would stop this "gather step" rule. Just 2 steps, simple, not this complicated three steps on certain occasions and angles
actually he did. And he always does make use of the 0, 1, 2 step. On 0 step he's going to the first direction, then he goes to the opposite direction using step 1 and 2. That's how his eurostep is different from the others. Truly unique!
Jamal Crawford literally jumps every time he touches the ball and nobody ever called him for travelling. Now all these twitter refs just keep calling travels just because someone is jumping 5 inches higher lol
Jamal's footwork isn't perfect... but it's blurry enough to ward off travel calls in real time. Same can be said about James Harden. Harden is notorious for his travels, but the unfortunate fact is... every maneuver he does, he SOMETIMES does legally. That makes it hard to officiate him. Every move he does CAN BE DONE without traveling if there is the right coordination between the gather and the first step... so if you're gonna catch him traveling, you have to be watching his hands and feet really closely... while you're also watching the guy guarding him looking for the foul. Much of the time, notorious travelers get away with things because they are offensively aggressive and they put an unmanageable officiating load on the officials. It is what it is. What I find more of an insult than the live calls are the botched official review calls. It seems I can't count on the review process to come back with the right calls even when given unlimited time to do so. THAT is the bigger problem in my opinion.
Michael Dickey It’s hilarious how confident you are, especially since you’re wrong. The best part is that contrary evidence seems to actually entrench you further, rather than improve your ability to understand what is and is not a travel. Harden, for instance, is notorious for his travels because a vocal minority of overconfident morons believe he is traveling, even when he isn’t. The league constantly reinforces that his plays are legal, but the vocal minority doesn’t use 1) the rule book, or 2) the most trained officials in the world, to form their (incorrect) views. At the end of the day, he does travel occasionally and isn’t called for it. The problem is, people see the 1/50 times he gets away with it, and believes they are all traveling. Shame really. They’re missing the best footwork in the NBA because they aren’t capable of learning. Shame.
@@benbosco7904 There's a lot wrong with what you're saying here. 1. I cite the rule book A LOT (not on this particular thread, but if you look into the OTHER comments for this video, you will find a well sourced comment by me including a link to the NBA rule book, and reference to section 13 (xiii) of the violations section... which is traveling. It's about a page long, and it's really quite clear about what's a travel and what isn't. 2. you seem to have stopped reading the moment I mentioned James Harden and just went into a bitching frenzy. You don't seem to have noticed when I said, "every maneuver he does, he SOMETIMES does legally. That makes it hard to officiate him." Yup... said that 3 whole sentences in. Not everything Harden does is a travel... but he gets away with a lot of travels for 2 reasons. First, He rarely attempts a move that CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT TRAVELING. If he happens to travel, it's really hard to catch him, because the maneuver he's doing (be it a eurostep, stepback, one legged shot) can be done legally IF he times his gather and first step properly Second, The refs have 9 other players to watch. They don't have the bandwidth to really keep harden honest. 3. As for "best footwork in the NBA", I'd disagree because he uses illegitimate footwork much more often than most guards, so I think he disqualifies himself. It's obviously effective, but he's getting the benefit of fallible officiating. The best footwork in the NBA (For guards) I think I might give to Kawhi Leonard, Kyrie Irving, or Kemba Walker. BTW, Kemba Walker has the CLEANEST stepback in the nba. He nearly never travels on his stepbacks... which cannot be said about Harden, Luka, or Steph.
@@benbosco7904 Oh yeah... and as far as refs being experts... not so much. Ronnie Nunn is among the most renowned officials of all time... and he believes in the existance of "Zero Steps", "Gather Steps", and "Line Up Steps". I've also seen him say that a bounce from a foot back to that same foot is legal. I don't know how Ronnie Nunn managed to be at the forefront of his career when he has all these thoughts that are easy to debunk by just reading the quite short traveling section (section xiii of the violations chapter) which is only about 450 words. People on the internet act like he knows what he's talking about... and maybe he does... but the things he says are legal are very evidently not. Whether he's stupid or he's just backing up the NBA refs association by reflex, he's wrong most of the time. He's a hack and he's not worth listening to. Also... ask Tim Donaghy what he thinks of Ronnie Nunn. LOL!
I remember when I was reffing varsity ball about 10 years ago, the point guard of one of the teams did this sort of thing on almost every drive to the basket. The other coach and some of the spectators were convinced it was a travel. My initial thought was that it didn't look right but I held off the whistle. During a dead ball a few minutes later I played it back in my head it was clear that it wasn't a travel so I never called it afterwards either. It's a lot easier to see when you're watching it on video than it is in real time so I'm a bit surprised that people are having so much trouble understanding this.
Yeah. I have no trouble in gather step but after gathering, make it sure that 1-2 step will be made. So many haters of the gather step and hop step thing bec they cannot do it.
This explains why i always grew up thinking the nba was allowed to take 3 steps. So the premise of the gather step is that you are not holding the ball yet? But the player still takes 3 steps even not counting the gather step?
@@Jay-dn2pg I can only speak from my own experience, which was in Canada, but I assume things are the same in the US. Varsity basketball uses FIBA rules or sometimes a slightly modified version of FIBA rules. Either way, the rules for travelling are the same. NCAA basketball has a different set of rules but they also have the same rules for travelling.
Cade Cosmo I’m confused, are you saying people are getting injured because of what’s shown in the video? If that’s what you’re saying then you’re wrong because nba players don’t do this. All they do is take advantage of the gather step which most people try to say they travel for taking 3 steps. In the video they are taking advantage of the 1st step after the gather step.
@@Jay-dn2pg players are getting injured because they started to rely on athleticism much more, too much hopping, jumping, and too much stress on the knees which is likely our most sensitive joint. You won't see Luka or Jokic injured a lot cause they don't rely on athleticism but i can guarantee Zion and Ja will unfortunately have serious injuries eventually.
@@cimi93x I agree but anyone with the athleticism is gonna use it no matter if they need or rely on it. They'll just have a higher chance of injury due to jumping so high compared to a guy like Luka or Harden who just doesn't have the ability to do so.
@@TheTemper-King You seem to be new to basketball. Continuously landing with one leg after jumping is never good for your legs even if you have perfect landing mechanics.
@@TheTemper-King I watch nba level players get severely injured with less, imagine landing on 1 leg, 1 knee, with all that impact. One false turn or angle and it's a torn acl or broken tibula.
@@TheTemper-King With good landing mechanics your calf will absorb maybe 80% of the force but you're still talking about 200+ players continously landing on one foot. Your knee's/hip will eventually tap out and tear something.
8:34 is a major key. What you do with your hands/upper body doesn’t have any bearing on traveling assuming you’re holding on to the ball. You could throw 50 pass and shot fakes after a gather and that has zero bearing on traveling/“up and down”
You could still show the move to the ref before the game, demonstrating its legality and then proceed to do it in game so he’ll know what you are up to
thats a common misconception the travel is the same rule across all leagues. Think about it, when you learn a right handed layup you pick up the ball on your left foot. Then you take a right step, then a left step and then your right knee comes up for a right handed layup... This is the same as what you see in the videos but they are exaggerating every step
I love this. Ronnie always explains it with simple words. It helps me explaining the rules to children, coaches, parents (especially parents who used to play). It is much better than simply quoting the rule book... Thx Nick & Ronnie.
@Marko Botic It's worse than that. For many years the NBA allowed two steps *on a drive to the basket* when the rules said you were only allowed one. (this is, I'd guess, exactly how you got from pivot foot analysys to "a step and a half", but that was before my time.) The FIBA rules were, I believe, changed to accomodate this and the European players or coaches noticed and invented the "Euro-step" to take advantage of it. But the NBA kept pretending that two was one. So, someone invented the idea that after you took control of the ball your next step -- a "gather step" -- didn't count and invented the idea that that was in "the rules". It wasn't, but who learns basketball by reading the rules, anyway? Then, in 2009, the cognitive dissonance got to be too much and the NBA Rules Committee decided to bring their rulebook into line with actual practice. So, claiming that they weren't changing the way the game would be officiated (see www.espn.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/9963/traveling-violation-nba-on-rule-change), they rewrote the rules to allow two steps after picking up your dribble. Being complete cretins they had no idea that they were "legalizing" for the NBA things that anyone with any familiarity with the game of basketball would recognize as an obvious carry, but James Hardin in particular showed them otherwise. What could they say? Yeah, it was an obvious travel, but it clearly complies with the new rule, right there in black and white. It didn't help that the players would naturally gain the maximum offensive advantage for themselves by operating right on the 2.999999... step boundary, that the gather and the steps are taking place at different points in space, and that one pair of human eyes cannot possibly focus on two points in space simultaneously. And the "gather step" morons still think that there is a free step in the rule book. Yes. Disgusting. That's exactly right.
@@c.jarmstrong3111 What you think the bogus 2009 travel rules have to do with the effects of belatedly deciding to exploit the excessive value given to three point shots I cannot imagine. But, yeah, I think excessive long shots are boring as hell too. The NBA game has moved on in the direction of becoming unwatchable trash for more than just one reason, true.
It’s a skill You have to work on it to get good or get better at it Like Gilbert arenas said when he went second round and his teammate Richard Jefferson who was 3rd option on his college team went 1st round Gilbert had skill Richard had game
Man my refs are so slow. I’m serious. They can’t get across the court to see a guy behind one of my teammates foul him without the slowass ref getting back enough to see the foul.
feels like it can create alot of charging foul or even getting players injured, not because of the knee but the landing of the second step which can cause a collision with the defenders edit: charging/blocking fouls
That play around 7:15 is travel. For two reasons: a. It's not clear enough that the first step is the gather step. B. Once he lands on his right foot, that's his pivot foot. He can't move on to his left foot. So make up your mind: is there a pivot rule on lay ups, or not?
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this video. 9:30, Dwayne Wade, that’s my move (or I’ll also go to a jump stop with a pivot) and I get called for a travel every single time. I’m so sick of it. People don’t know the rules, they can’t tell you why that’s a violation but every other layup isn’t (every single layup uses a gather step).
The idea of zero step has ruined basketball. You can’t blame people for getting upset about these moves - they would all be considered illegal 5-10 years ago before the rule change. I don’t think high school has addicted the zero step yet either. Just imagine all the arguing on the playground lol
So by your explanation, if you run up to shoot a pull up jumper and a defender puts his hand up to block the shot.Can't someone just land and call it a jump stop instead of getting an up and down or travel call?
I love how Ronnie said the second guy can still do 2 more steps because he jumped off his gather. Then the third clip guy did exactly that and it made total sense.
Can you guys go over the 2 forms of jump stops? So there's one form of a jump stop where you can pivot afterwards. And there's another form where you can't pivot afterwards? Is that correct??? I need a visual. Only thing I'm confused about. Does anyone have any links or other videos that might help explain this?
@BBALLBREAKDOWN Coach, the problem with these moves are that if you jump that "HIGH" as it is shown in the clips you'll be jumping into the arms of the defender or even allow an easy way to draw a charge. Most of the referees in europe calls traveling violation if you jump into a defender and hang in the air a little without getting another quick step. However, it is certainly creative to add into arsenal for a better way of "euro" stepping in my opinion. Btw thank you for the content and showing people ways to get creative.
I don't think NBA players in the 90s and early 2000s were allowed to do the things that NBA players do now. One that comes to mind is Rafer Jamel Alston, who gets called for traveling when he would sometimes pull out his signature move where he would high step a bit when walking the ball up or sometimes take long stride steps (sort of like euro). I could be wrong but based on what was explained he didn't travel but would get called for it and had to restrain himself for doing that among other things.
Since theres no maximum height for a step taken, then when does an up and down get called? Cuz the 1 move is clearly a legal 1,2 but I think most ppl are saying on the fact that he coomes down makes it illegal. Based on the video Im assuming is it because most up and down calls are when the person is coming down after making 2 steps instead of 1 like in this video?
and up and down is when u land on the same foot u "hoped" with so if ur taking off with ur right foot in order to be a legal step u need to land with the left foot. if u land with the right its an up and down and a travel. when jumping off two feet in after the gather and landing u cant dribble or take a step ur stuck but you can pivot.
5:55 Incorrect by Ronnie.The move is legal however if you play the video slower or look closer, you’ll see that he actually planted his left foot on the ground before the ball is released from his left hand
In the FIBA rulebook it says: "A player who catches the ball while he is progressing, or upon completion of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball: - The first step occurs when one foot or both feet touch the floor after gaining control of the ball." So this idea of the "gather step" or "0 step" doesn't exist, at least not in FIBA basketball. In that case the Korean clip was illegal.
“The first step occurs AFTER gaining control of the ball” hence the “0 step” is the step WHILE gaining control of the ball. Please stop trying to outsmart a literal 20 year plus ref who lived and breathed the rule book.
So if my left foot is on the ground and my right foot in de air and I gain control of the ball (by cathering it or picking up my dribble), then one foot or both feet touch the ground after I have gained control. That means, according to the rulebook, that my left foot is step 1 and I am only able to put down the right foot again (step 2). This also makes sense because the left foot is my pivot foot with whom I can't come down again.
@@kallestoffers4300 No cus you gathered the ball after your left foot was already on the ground meaning your left foot step was before your gather. In that scenario, your left foot on the ground, right foot in the air and you gain control of ball - your subsequent right foot hitting the ground is step 1. The left foot already on the ground before/during/while gathering does not count in your 1-2 step.Now let's say for some reason you gathered the ball while both feet were in the air (mid run or something), then your left foot would count as step 1. But all this happens so fast pretty hard to tell in real life in real speed lol.
Jumps/bounds/pivots AREN'T STEPS. There are no rules about how high/long steps are, but the definition of a step is that it's part of a LINEAR motion, and at NO POINT in steps are both feet off the ground. Lateral acceleration? Not steps. Leaving the ground? Not steps.
Coach, i would really like to know if someone can save a ball going out of bounds, step out, step or establish himself inbound and touch the ball before another. Is that illegal or not? I believe it is but most think it ain't.
I discussed this with my bball boys a couple months ago and we agreed that it was allowed, just that we should do it more gracefully than I could with my 41 year old knees
If all of this is legal why have I been told for years that an up and down isnt legal (going up in a shooting motion and coming back down with the ball) ....? Is it only legal if you come down on one foot that's not the launch foot or if you launched up on your gather step could you land on both feet and still be legal. Then define when an up and down is illegal
Absolutely, by the SPIRIT of the rules, one foot has to be on the ground, the pivot foot. These moves are legal by NBA rules, but clearly violate the spirit of the traveling rules for all of basketball, and the letter of the law in high school and college, where you get a pivot foot and "steps", not bounds/leaps/jumps. Steps mean Olympic walking rules, both feet can never leave the ground. As soon as both feet leave the ground at once, it's a jump, not a step.
The 1-2 step applies when you pick up the ball. Your pivot foot is that second step. That's not just NBA rules. That's high school rules. 1-2 and jump stops are both valid, but 1-2 is most encouraged as it allows you to gather your footing before stopping.
Why are u inventing interpretations when there are no words in the rule book that tell u that what u r saying here is the case. At the end of the day, your opinion doesnt matter, this is what the rule says, and unless the language of the rule changes, these moves are legal. And unlike what u said college rules are just like fiba or nba rules when it comes to travelling violation. So i dont know where u get your idea from loll.
@@taiwanthebest Read the NCAA, NBA, FIBA, and NFHS rules. NBA is usually the most different, and certainly in the case of traveling it is. On some things, FIBA is the odd man out, like hand NOT being part of ball. Taiwan numba one! You have to play a lot of basketball and read a lot of different basketball rulebooks to understand the intent behind rules and the spirit of the game. The NBA has different traveling rules only because their job is to sell merch, primarily shoes, not produce the "purest" basketball. If a rule will either sell more shoes while decreasing purity or sell fewer shoes while increasing purity, the NBA will follow the money, not the spirit of the game. Usually, the two objectives aren't at odds, but sometimes, like with traveling, they obviously are.
This is frustrating because you have no idea how many people I've faked on the up and under step through. I always believed that you had to jump off two. And because of this my shot was always altered/miss because I couldn't get enough elevation.
@bballbreakdown I have known about this my whole life. I would explain to people all the legal moves exactly like these in the video. They shook their heads and called me crazy. Anyways it's not a safe move to do cuz the chance of landing on someones foot with only your one foot coming down increases a bunch when your getting vertical like this. Great vid yet again.
Things got really loose, since taking 5 steps between dribbles started being considered as baby steps, all of these gathers became ridiculous. Maybe the rules should be more clear on this but I certainly would not like to see it added onto the things that get by uncalled and obviously feel like stretching the basic rules the game is founded on.
Is it legal?: I HAVE NO MORE STEPS I'M SHOOTING, BUT I SEE SOMEONE WILL BLOCK ME SO I STOP IN AIR AND FLYING DOWN, IS TRAVEL? IF I NEARLY HIT THE GROND AND PASS IN ONE TIME?
Hey Coach I think a very good video to analyse would be the 90's Bulls MJ,SP and D-rods defense as you got 3 of the greatest defenders to ever live on one team it would be very beneficial to review the tape and educate the younger generation.
You know Harden already saved this video
And be like: "I told you!" to everyone lol.
James Harden has entered the chat. 😁
He probably asked for that exclusive early release
@op now you just wait for him to reply-
probably downloaded it and it's his ringtone.
Old man got hoops 0:29
Broke hips, ankles and backs at the nursery home
Marc Billing just for that it’s legal
its actually legal tho
gather step lets you drop in the same foot
just the 1 2 thats not allowed to be the same foot
Dude in quarantine the nba and the refs should make short videos explaining some of the more controversial or misunderstood rules of basketball. Maybe weekly videos on topics such as traveling, over and back, goaltending.
They already have something like that on nba.com. But, like Ronnie Nunn, they generally obscure their points as much as elucidate them.
edit: videorulebook.nba.com/
Or, you could read the traveling section of the rule book and stop listening to coach Nick and Ronnie Nunn
Here you go. It's less than a page. Read it and you'll realize just how full of shit those 2 are, and how easy it actually is to determine what is a travel. Just take 10 minutes to slowly absorb this section, and you will never have another question again... except "When does the gather occur"
On that front, it CERTAINLY occurs after you touch the ball but before you put the second hand on the ball. That much everyone agrees on.
The general understanding (that hasn't been put into words in the rule book) is "When a player no longer has the option to continue to dribble, the gather has occurred' meaning... if the player were to dribble again, it would be either a carry or a double-dribble.
So with that in mind, here's the traveling section. Bet it's shorter and simpler than you thought.
official.nba.com/rule-no-10-violations-and-penalties/
Section XIII-Traveling
A player who receives the ball while standing still may pivot, using either foot as the pivot foot.
A player who gathers the ball while progressing may take (1) two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball, or (2) if he has not yet dribbled, one step prior to releasing the ball. A player who gathers the ball while dribbling may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing, or shooting the ball.
The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball.
The second step occurs after the first step when the other foot touches the floor, or both feet touch the floor simultaneously.
A player who comes to a stop on step one when both feet are on the floor or touch the floor simultaneously may pivot using either foot as his pivot. If he jumps with both feet he must release the ball before either foot touches the floor.
A player who lands with one foot first may only pivot using that foot.
A progressing player who jumps off one foot on the first step may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step. In this situation, the player may not pivot with either foot and if one or both feet leave the floor the ball must be released before either returns to the floor.
In starting a dribble after (1) receiving the ball while standing still, or (2) coming to a legal stop, the ball must be out of the player’s hand before the pivot foot is raised off the floor.
If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor. If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball.
A player who falls to the floor while holding the ball, or while coming to a stop, may not gain an advantage by sliding.
A player who attempts a field goal may not be the first to touch the ball if it fails to touch the backboard, basket ring or another player.
A player may not be the first to touch his own pass unless the ball touches his back- board, basket ring or another player.
Upon ending his dribble or gaining control of the ball, a player may not touch the floor consecutively with the same foot (hop).
PENALTY: Loss of ball. The ball is awarded to the opposing team on the sideline, nearest spot of the violation but no nearer the baseline than the foul line extended.
@@classyassmothafucka8890 :"... except .When does the gather occur'
On that front, it CERTAINLY occurs after you touch the ball but before you put the second hand on the ball. That much everyone agrees on."
Um.... no. A gather can occur when, not "before", a second hand is placed on the ball. "For a player who is in control of the ball while dribbling, the gather is defined as the point where a player does any one of the following: Puts two hands on the ball, or otherwise permits the ball to come to rest, while he is in control of it..." official.nba.com/new-language-in-nba-rule-book-regarding-traveling-violations/
Could go over that no call when KD literally threw the ball in from out of bounds.
Harry Welcome to the channel
My knees hurt just imagining me doing that
must be over 30
that's why they are all skinny kids in the clips
I can Imagine D Rose doing this and immediately hurting his knee
I used to the hop step double clutch layup as my go to move. It would hurt my ankle now if im doing it. Now, a luka shot fake and high floaters would do.
Weak knees
Spread the words to those idiots who always scream "TRAVEL" whenever they got scored on lol.
These rules exist in the NBA & FIBA but not the streets. The clip from China gets called a travel everytime when there's no referee around lol
@@themohas3243 yea no doubt, but that's a SICK move nonetheless.
Penghan Yi I can’t stand those people
@@themohas3243 I wish the NBA and FIBA would stop this "gather step" rule. Just 2 steps, simple, not this complicated three steps on certain occasions and angles
@@MrE_ no. If you remove the gather step, eurostep and hop step will be illegal. What we gonna do? Straight 1-2 layup? 😆😆😆
I'd rather using regular moves in park instead of trying to explain it's not a travel.
This mindset will keep you a step behind.
Yea sometimes it's a totally wasting of time to convince someone who is not capable of logical thinking.
As time goes on you won't have to explain it
You just gonna have to wait until a professional like James harden starts doing it
* redoing the move trying to explain
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Giannis can start this move outside the 3pt line
Yes because he cant do anything else from that distance
Wookey - lmao, big steps from 3 point line
Wookey -
Lmao shots fired bro
Only thing he cant do from that distance is shoot
I think he can start those moves from half court
Im surprised Manu never did something like this
he always did the one at 10:20
actually he did. And he always does make use of the 0, 1, 2 step. On 0 step he's going to the first direction, then he goes to the opposite direction using step 1 and 2. That's how his eurostep is different from the others. Truly unique!
@@MrBlackchaos05 what is 0,1,2 step i dont get it
@@emanuelstude4912 there is no 0 step.
its gather.
STOP saying 0.
RULES dont say anything about 0.
It's legal, but this seriously sounds like a good way to get derrick rose's knees
My thoughts exactly. Some of those moves look dangerous.
@@tenko5541 that's the real reason players don't do this shit, forget the travel calls
Lot of other ways to get it.
If you land properly it probably isn’t a problem. D rose just didn’t know how to land properly when jumping
Some of them, absolutely
All fun and games until you land on someone’s foot
LMFAO
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Yeah you spoke the truth... It might be cool and creative and all but if it ain't practical in real games it is useless and pointless
Jamal Crawford literally jumps every time he touches the ball and nobody ever called him for travelling. Now all these twitter refs just keep calling travels just because someone is jumping 5 inches higher lol
Jamal's footwork isn't perfect... but it's blurry enough to ward off travel calls in real time. Same can be said about James Harden.
Harden is notorious for his travels, but the unfortunate fact is... every maneuver he does, he SOMETIMES does legally. That makes it hard to officiate him. Every move he does CAN BE DONE without traveling if there is the right coordination between the gather and the first step... so if you're gonna catch him traveling, you have to be watching his hands and feet really closely... while you're also watching the guy guarding him looking for the foul.
Much of the time, notorious travelers get away with things because they are offensively aggressive and they put an unmanageable officiating load on the officials.
It is what it is.
What I find more of an insult than the live calls are the botched official review calls. It seems I can't count on the review process to come back with the right calls even when given unlimited time to do so. THAT is the bigger problem in my opinion.
Michael Dickey It’s hilarious how confident you are, especially since you’re wrong. The best part is that contrary evidence seems to actually entrench you further, rather than improve your ability to understand what is and is not a travel. Harden, for instance, is notorious for his travels because a vocal minority of overconfident morons believe he is traveling, even when he isn’t. The league constantly reinforces that his plays are legal, but the vocal minority doesn’t use 1) the rule book, or 2) the most trained officials in the world, to form their (incorrect) views. At the end of the day, he does travel occasionally and isn’t called for it. The problem is, people see the 1/50 times he gets away with it, and believes they are all traveling. Shame really. They’re missing the best footwork in the NBA because they aren’t capable of learning. Shame.
@@benbosco7904 agree. Best foot.
@@benbosco7904
There's a lot wrong with what you're saying here.
1. I cite the rule book A LOT (not on this particular thread, but if you look into the OTHER comments for this video, you will find a well sourced comment by me including a link to the NBA rule book, and reference to section 13 (xiii) of the violations section... which is traveling. It's about a page long, and it's really quite clear about what's a travel and what isn't.
2. you seem to have stopped reading the moment I mentioned James Harden and just went into a bitching frenzy. You don't seem to have noticed when I said, "every maneuver he does, he SOMETIMES does legally. That makes it hard to officiate him."
Yup... said that 3 whole sentences in. Not everything Harden does is a travel... but he gets away with a lot of travels for 2 reasons.
First, He rarely attempts a move that CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT TRAVELING. If he happens to travel, it's really hard to catch him, because the maneuver he's doing (be it a eurostep, stepback, one legged shot) can be done legally IF he times his gather and first step properly
Second, The refs have 9 other players to watch. They don't have the bandwidth to really keep harden honest.
3. As for "best footwork in the NBA", I'd disagree because he uses illegitimate footwork much more often than most guards, so I think he disqualifies himself. It's obviously effective, but he's getting the benefit of fallible officiating.
The best footwork in the NBA (For guards) I think I might give to Kawhi Leonard, Kyrie Irving, or Kemba Walker.
BTW, Kemba Walker has the CLEANEST stepback in the nba. He nearly never travels on his stepbacks... which cannot be said about Harden, Luka, or Steph.
@@benbosco7904
Oh yeah... and as far as refs being experts... not so much.
Ronnie Nunn is among the most renowned officials of all time... and he believes in the existance of "Zero Steps", "Gather Steps", and "Line Up Steps". I've also seen him say that a bounce from a foot back to that same foot is legal. I don't know how Ronnie Nunn managed to be at the forefront of his career when he has all these thoughts that are easy to debunk by just reading the quite short traveling section (section xiii of the violations chapter) which is only about 450 words. People on the internet act like he knows what he's talking about... and maybe he does... but the things he says are legal are very evidently not. Whether he's stupid or he's just backing up the NBA refs association by reflex, he's wrong most of the time. He's a hack and he's not worth listening to.
Also... ask Tim Donaghy what he thinks of Ronnie Nunn. LOL!
Coach Nick out here giving James Harden ideas
Aye my boy ricci got thru bballbreakdown
Sabi na ehh d travel un... mapapaaway klang kc
Your boy? 🌈
Boy mo muka mo betlog
@DDS69 SuboTITEchina Lolo mo bading na talangka na sumusubo ng titeng china iyakin
I remember when I was reffing varsity ball about 10 years ago, the point guard of one of the teams did this sort of thing on almost every drive to the basket. The other coach and some of the spectators were convinced it was a travel. My initial thought was that it didn't look right but I held off the whistle. During a dead ball a few minutes later I played it back in my head it was clear that it wasn't a travel so I never called it afterwards either. It's a lot easier to see when you're watching it on video than it is in real time so I'm a bit surprised that people are having so much trouble understanding this.
Yeah. I have no trouble in gather step but after gathering, make it sure that 1-2 step will be made. So many haters of the gather step and hop step thing bec they cannot do it.
Of all the things in all universes in the multiverse to have never happened... this didn't happen the most.
gcree20 But didn’t they say in the video that it only fell under NBA and Fiba rules because of the gather step or something like that?
This explains why i always grew up thinking the nba was allowed to take 3 steps.
So the premise of the gather step is that you are not holding the ball yet?
But the player still takes 3 steps even not counting the gather step?
@@Jay-dn2pg I can only speak from my own experience, which was in Canada, but I assume things are the same in the US. Varsity basketball uses FIBA rules or sometimes a slightly modified version of FIBA rules. Either way, the rules for travelling are the same. NCAA basketball has a different set of rules but they also have the same rules for travelling.
i see a lot of snapped acls in the future
**injured D Rose noises**
it's the sole reason why players are getting injured more than ever despite a clearly less physical game... people's knees are not meant for this
Cade Cosmo I’m confused, are you saying people are getting injured because of what’s shown in the video? If that’s what you’re saying then you’re wrong because nba players don’t do this. All they do is take advantage of the gather step which most people try to say they travel for taking 3 steps. In the video they are taking advantage of the 1st step after the gather step.
@@Jay-dn2pg players are getting injured because they started to rely on athleticism much more, too much hopping, jumping, and too much stress on the knees which is likely our most sensitive joint. You won't see Luka or Jokic injured a lot cause they don't rely on athleticism but i can guarantee Zion and Ja will unfortunately have serious injuries eventually.
@@cimi93x I agree but anyone with the athleticism is gonna use it no matter if they need or rely on it. They'll just have a higher chance of injury due to jumping so high compared to a guy like Luka or Harden who just doesn't have the ability to do so.
This is cool but if I use this at the park or in Hs I’m getting called for travel
Doubler- gaming yea you are gonna get into an argument for sure haha
Coz this is NBA/FIBA. But not streetball. Where they nit pick what are the rules. Hahaha
So true. Tough to teach ppl on the court
It’d be pretty funny if you pull out your phone and play this video. “See? It’s legal!”
I'll have to burn this onto DVDs and give them away to the people on the court. I've even got called travel for a normal 012.
I think im gonna wreck my knees eventually if i keep doing this move
You just have bad landing mechanics
@@TheTemper-King You seem to be new to basketball. Continuously landing with one leg after jumping is never good for your legs even if you have perfect landing mechanics.
@@TheTemper-King I watch nba level players get severely injured with less, imagine landing on 1 leg, 1 knee, with all that impact. One false turn or angle and it's a torn acl or broken tibula.
@@TheTemper-King With good landing mechanics your calf will absorb maybe 80% of the force but you're still talking about 200+ players continously landing on one foot. Your knee's/hip will eventually tap out and tear something.
8:34 is a major key. What you do with your hands/upper body doesn’t have any bearing on traveling assuming you’re holding on to the ball. You could throw 50 pass and shot fakes after a gather and that has zero bearing on traveling/“up and down”
It doesn't matter if it's legally a travel, it matters whether or not it'll get called. Those will get called every time.
That's the point of the video bro
You could still show the move to the ref before the game, demonstrating its legality and then proceed to do it in game so he’ll know what you are up to
Thats basically what the ref in the video says. If those moves become more common, refs will get used to it and make right calls.
PSA:
FIBA & NBA = Gather Step
High School & NCAA = No Gather Step
thats a common misconception the travel is the same rule across all leagues. Think about it, when you learn a right handed layup you pick up the ball on your left foot. Then you take a right step, then a left step and then your right knee comes up for a right handed layup... This is the same as what you see in the videos but they are exaggerating every step
*James Harden has saved this video.*
Giannis will be taking big steps from 3 point line
I love this. Ronnie always explains it with simple words. It helps me explaining the rules to children, coaches, parents (especially parents who used to play). It is much better than simply quoting the rule book... Thx Nick & Ronnie.
This is exactly what I needed right now. Thanks Coach!
I got this video saved so when I get in arguments at the gym I got solid proof! Thanks coach! And Mr. Nunn.
Let me guess, they still don’t believe it.
Your problem is you’re trying to use facts and reason, and people call travel based on their feelings.
Why am I watching this. My opponent's gonna call travel anyway
the youth continue to evolve the game and you gotta love it !
No, I don't.
Marko Botic Okay, Boomer.
@Marko Botic It's worse than that. For many years the NBA allowed two steps *on a drive to the basket* when the rules said you were only allowed one. (this is, I'd guess, exactly how you got from pivot foot analysys to "a step and a half", but that was before my time.) The FIBA rules were, I believe, changed to accomodate this and the European players or coaches noticed and invented the "Euro-step" to take advantage of it. But the NBA kept pretending that two was one. So, someone invented the idea that after you took control of the ball your next step -- a "gather step" -- didn't count and invented the idea that that was in "the rules". It wasn't, but who learns basketball by reading the rules, anyway? Then, in 2009, the cognitive dissonance got to be too much and the NBA Rules Committee decided to bring their rulebook into line with actual practice. So, claiming that they weren't changing the way the game would be officiated (see www.espn.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/9963/traveling-violation-nba-on-rule-change), they rewrote the rules to allow two steps after picking up your dribble. Being complete cretins they had no idea that they were "legalizing" for the NBA things that anyone with any familiarity with the game of basketball would recognize as an obvious carry, but James Hardin in particular showed them otherwise. What could they say? Yeah, it was an obvious travel, but it clearly complies with the new rule, right there in black and white. It didn't help that the players would naturally gain the maximum offensive advantage for themselves by operating right on the 2.999999... step boundary, that the gather and the steps are taking place at different points in space, and that one pair of human eyes cannot possibly focus on two points in space simultaneously. And the "gather step" morons still think that there is a free step in the rule book.
Yes. Disgusting. That's exactly right.
@@gandydancer637 old NBA rules lead to nothing but post play and mid range shots off screens. The game has moved on.
@@c.jarmstrong3111 What you think the bogus 2009 travel rules have to do with the effects of belatedly deciding to exploit the excessive value given to three point shots I cannot imagine. But, yeah, I think excessive long shots are boring as hell too. The NBA game has moved on in the direction of becoming unwatchable trash for more than just one reason, true.
Lmao nah I’m good😂 I don’t feel like arguing with casual players or tearing an ACL with that first one.
Gotta hold off on using these moves at least until an NBA player like Harden uses it
The footwork nerds will prevail over the talented 😂
Ain't footwork a talent?
@@anthonynorman7545 I think it's just a component of the game. Like the jumpshot. You can improve it.
Carlo Gaytan yea but you can be talented at it
It’s a skill
You have to work on it to get good or get better at it
Like Gilbert arenas said
when he went second round and his teammate Richard Jefferson who was 3rd option on his college team went 1st round
Gilbert had skill
Richard had game
@@carlogaytan7010 one has to work at a talent.
Finally someone did this video. Ive been asking people to do this, to no avail. This will enlighten people about it.
Where is the Jason Williams hop dribbles? So thought it would be in this.
9:45
You cannot run without both feet regularly in the air at the same time!
Running is quite literally jumping from one foot to the other.
How much coaching experience do you have?
Tamburavadak you are correct sir.
Yeah having at least 1 feet on the ground at all times is walking :)
lol do you know racewalking? vox made a video about it
@@zongdays Yes, and the rules of race walking are that both feet must never leave the ground together. That would be... running.
Man my refs are so slow. I’m serious. They can’t get across the court to see a guy behind one of my teammates foul him without the slowass ref getting back enough to see the foul.
Become a ref, make the world better
feels like it can create alot of charging foul or even getting players injured, not because of the knee but the landing of the second step which can cause a collision with the defenders
edit: charging/blocking fouls
That play around 7:15 is travel. For two reasons: a. It's not clear enough that the first step is the gather step. B. Once he lands on his right foot, that's his pivot foot. He can't move on to his left foot. So make up your mind: is there a pivot rule on lay ups, or not?
Ricci Rivero is in the house 🔥🔥
I expect a lot of heads being shaken
JustIsaiah yeah I can already hear it
Can you see me shaking my head?
The so called "experts" shaking their head🤭
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this video. 9:30, Dwayne Wade, that’s my move (or I’ll also go to a jump stop with a pivot) and I get called for a travel every single time. I’m so sick of it.
People don’t know the rules, they can’t tell you why that’s a violation but every other layup isn’t (every single layup uses a gather step).
The idea of zero step has ruined basketball. You can’t blame people for getting upset about these moves - they would all be considered illegal 5-10 years ago before the rule change. I don’t think high school has addicted the zero step yet either. Just imagine all the arguing on the playground lol
adding these to my move list impossible to guard. tuff out here for the defenders jeesh
*moves that tear your ACL
How about the Real Deal Beal travel? interested to learnt, thanks, coach Nick.
*James Harden has entered the chat*
So by your explanation, if you run up to shoot a pull up jumper and a defender puts his hand up to block the shot.Can't someone just land and call it a jump stop instead of getting an up and down or travel call?
depends on how u jumped and how u land.
They are legal right now. The question is whether they SHOULD be legal.
Why not?
Rory Grant why’s that a question
Great question, they shouldnt
@@yungpito2130 because if you teach kids this eventually they gonna wreck a knee or achilles
KubbasOG then teach them the basics first
Does this mean you can jump off a catch and shoot, land, then jump again for the j?
I think notm coz u did not dribble the ball
Gotta dribble 1st
Thank u eaxactly
I love how Ronnie said the second guy can still do 2 more steps because he jumped off his gather. Then the third clip guy did exactly that and it made total sense.
Its not about how high a step is. Both feet are on the air!!!!
Can you guys go over the 2 forms of jump stops? So there's one form of a jump stop where you can pivot afterwards. And there's another form where you can't pivot afterwards? Is that correct???
I need a visual. Only thing I'm confused about.
Does anyone have any links or other videos that might help explain this?
Good as always coach
Can't wait to see these moves in the NBA.
I don’t know why people blowing up like NBA players aren’t traveling damn near every other play 🤣
Good video good basketball breakdown
@BBALLBREAKDOWN Coach, the problem with these moves are that if you jump that "HIGH" as it is shown in the clips you'll be jumping into the arms of the defender or even allow an easy way to draw a charge. Most of the referees in europe calls traveling violation if you jump into a defender and hang in the air a little without getting another quick step. However, it is certainly creative to add into arsenal for a better way of "euro" stepping in my opinion. Btw thank you for the content and showing people ways to get creative.
I don't think NBA players in the 90s and early 2000s were allowed to do the things that NBA players do now. One that comes to mind is Rafer Jamel Alston, who gets called for traveling when he would sometimes pull out his signature move where he would high step a bit when walking the ball up or sometimes take long stride steps (sort of like euro). I could be wrong but based on what was explained he didn't travel but would get called for it and had to restrain himself for doing that among other things.
Bruh i never expected this vid to be a documentary
Now I have to find a way to explain this in pick up when I do it.
Where is Ja Rule?
We need Ja to make sense of this!!
Don't forget to bring your passport before "travelling" 😆
Good luck with trying #1 in a street game and proving u r right)))
This is about to blow up
Coach nick has been ahead of the game when it comes to remote interviews. Now everyone is trying to do zoom calls
What is Zoom?
Can you make a video on best moves for young players?
Basketball Coach Allen has on TH-cam
@@coachallennba alright
Since theres no maximum height for a step taken, then when does an up and down get called? Cuz the 1 move is clearly a legal 1,2 but I think most ppl are saying on the fact that he coomes down makes it illegal. Based on the video Im assuming is it because most up and down calls are when the person is coming down after making 2 steps instead of 1 like in this video?
and up and down is when u land on the same foot u "hoped" with so if ur taking off with ur right foot in order to be a legal step u need to land with the left foot. if u land with the right its an up and down and a travel.
when jumping off two feet in after the gather and landing u cant dribble or take a step ur stuck but you can pivot.
Can you explode up off the gather, come down on 1,2, but then upfake and pivot around 1 (moving 2) for an up and under?
5:55 Incorrect by Ronnie.The move is legal however if you play the video slower or look closer, you’ll see that he actually planted his left foot on the ground before the ball is released from his left hand
6:08
This just shows how ridiculous the travel rules are these days
LOL at the use of the term "launch step"...That is called JUMPING
Hey coach check the move called traspies in spanish, and make a breakdown or a tutorial please
0:08 I'm pretty sure that's not legal, his foot came down before the ball left his hand, I think. What do you think BBALLBREAKDOWN?
Haha!!! Ricci Rivero made it to bballbreakdown!
In the FIBA rulebook it says:
"A player who catches the ball while he is progressing, or upon completion of a
dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball:
- The first step occurs when one foot or both feet touch the floor after gaining
control of the ball."
So this idea of the "gather step" or "0 step" doesn't exist, at least not in FIBA basketball. In that case the Korean clip was illegal.
the gather step is the step where the player gets the ball in their control. thats why its called step 0 because its not really a step with the ball
“The first step occurs AFTER gaining control of the ball” hence the “0 step” is the step WHILE gaining control of the ball. Please stop trying to outsmart a literal 20 year plus ref who lived and breathed the rule book.
So if my left foot is on the ground and my right foot in de air and I gain control of the ball (by cathering it or picking up my dribble), then one foot or both feet touch the ground after I have gained control. That means, according to the rulebook, that my left foot is step 1 and I am only able to put down the right foot again (step 2).
This also makes sense because the left foot is my pivot foot with whom I can't come down again.
@@kallestoffers4300 No cus you gathered the ball after your left foot was already on the ground meaning your left foot step was before your gather. In that scenario, your left foot on the ground, right foot in the air and you gain control of ball - your subsequent right foot hitting the ground is step 1. The left foot already on the ground before/during/while gathering does not count in your 1-2 step.Now let's say for some reason you gathered the ball while both feet were in the air (mid run or something), then your left foot would count as step 1. But all this happens so fast pretty hard to tell in real life in real speed lol.
Jumps/bounds/pivots AREN'T STEPS. There are no rules about how high/long steps are, but the definition of a step is that it's part of a LINEAR motion, and at NO POINT in steps are both feet off the ground. Lateral acceleration? Not steps. Leaving the ground? Not steps.
So can I pick the ball up at step zero , pause for like 2 second, then two step layup once the defender is thrown off?
I would be standing on one leg at step zero
00:48 what's that move called?
motopoxki just looks like a clean step through. Legal as lonng as pivot doesn't touch back down before release
@@kaijones7323 Thanks
I'm sorry 7:10 u're telling me isn't a travel
Kai Young a travel 100% of the time. Referees don’t watch in slow motion. This looks like a travel and will always be called that.
@@nstacho might be legal but you can't blame the referee if he he blow his whistle.
Tomorrow news: james harden develop new moves during quarantine
0:34 That’s ricci rivero from the philippines 🇵🇭🔥
Coach, i would really like to know if someone can save a ball going out of bounds, step out, step or establish himself inbound and touch the ball before another. Is that illegal or not? I believe it is but most think it ain't.
It's safe. As long as the ball isn't held with feet out of bounds, it's still in play.
@@Goldenblade14 that's what I have been saying. But people be thinking it's a self pass.
My question is how long does a player have one each foot for a gather? Can you gather one foot at a time in a much slower pace?
Yes. You can stand on each step for as long as you want. Just not very useful or practical
interesting video but how do you discuss application of a rule without ever giving us the exact language of the rule?
I did not expect Ricci Rivero's Euro Steps to be in here lol
Some of these moves just need to be cleared. Some of the seem fishy and others look legit.
I discussed this with my bball boys a couple months ago and we agreed that it was allowed, just that we should do it more gracefully than I could with my 41 year old knees
0:14 was a travel
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My guy ricci rivero is here lol HAHAHA
I didn't see one travel until the 49th seconds... Im here for the step through
The guy on green uniform is Ricci rivero. Search him up. He has a lot of 'unconventional' euro/gather that scream travel but completely legal
gather and two step after is never a travel -Harden 2020
If all of this is legal why have I been told for years that an up and down isnt legal (going up in a shooting motion and coming back down with the ball) ....? Is it only legal if you come down on one foot that's not the launch foot or if you launched up on your gather step could you land on both feet and still be legal. Then define when an up and down is illegal
"Is there nothing in the rules on how how high that step needs to be" That isn't a step its a jump. The word step is what you're looking for.
And there's no rule that talk about the jump... The only rule is that you can't land on the same foot after a jump
2:39 his hand is clearly under the ball at this moment the dribble is over. I cleary see 1,2,3
Absolutely, by the SPIRIT of the rules, one foot has to be on the ground, the pivot foot. These moves are legal by NBA rules, but clearly violate the spirit of the traveling rules for all of basketball, and the letter of the law in high school and college, where you get a pivot foot and "steps", not bounds/leaps/jumps. Steps mean Olympic walking rules, both feet can never leave the ground. As soon as both feet leave the ground at once, it's a jump, not a step.
The 1-2 step applies when you pick up the ball. Your pivot foot is that second step. That's not just NBA rules. That's high school rules. 1-2 and jump stops are both valid, but 1-2 is most encouraged as it allows you to gather your footing before stopping.
Yea but doesnt that mean u cant do long euro steps
Whenever you run, both feet are off the ground half the time. What you’re saying makes no sense. He even says as much in this video.
Why are u inventing interpretations when there are no words in the rule book that tell u that what u r saying here is the case. At the end of the day, your opinion doesnt matter, this is what the rule says, and unless the language of the rule changes, these moves are legal. And unlike what u said college rules are just like fiba or nba rules when it comes to travelling violation. So i dont know where u get your idea from loll.
@@taiwanthebest Read the NCAA, NBA, FIBA, and NFHS rules. NBA is usually the most different, and certainly in the case of traveling it is. On some things, FIBA is the odd man out, like hand NOT being part of ball. Taiwan numba one!
You have to play a lot of basketball and read a lot of different basketball rulebooks to understand the intent behind rules and the spirit of the game. The NBA has different traveling rules only because their job is to sell merch, primarily shoes, not produce the "purest" basketball. If a rule will either sell more shoes while decreasing purity or sell fewer shoes while increasing purity, the NBA will follow the money, not the spirit of the game. Usually, the two objectives aren't at odds, but sometimes, like with traveling, they obviously are.
0:01 why aren’t these up and downs?
This is frustrating because you have no idea how many people I've faked on the up and under step through. I always believed that you had to jump off two. And because of this my shot was always altered/miss because I couldn't get enough elevation.
7:30 - 7:55 has to be the most important thing said in this whole video.
@bballbreakdown I have known about this my whole life. I would explain to people all the legal moves exactly like these in the video. They shook their heads and called me crazy. Anyways it's not a safe move to do cuz the chance of landing on someones foot with only your one foot coming down increases a bunch when your getting vertical like this. Great vid yet again.
Thanks! And you make some good points
Things got really loose, since taking 5 steps between dribbles started being considered as baby steps, all of these gathers became ridiculous. Maybe the rules should be more clear on this but I certainly would not like to see it added onto the things that get by uncalled and obviously feel like stretching the basic rules the game is founded on.
my boi Ricci here!
Is it legal?: I HAVE NO MORE STEPS I'M SHOOTING, BUT I SEE SOMEONE WILL BLOCK ME SO I STOP IN AIR AND FLYING DOWN, IS TRAVEL? IF I NEARLY HIT THE GROND AND PASS IN ONE TIME?
That's clean
Hey Coach I think a very good video to analyse would be the 90's Bulls MJ,SP and D-rods defense as you got 3 of the greatest defenders to ever live on one team it would be very beneficial to review the tape and educate the younger generation.