Man! It's not surprising that refs make so many honest mistakes, and the fans understand many correct rulings wrong! Tough business! Thanks for this insightful video. I hope I'll memorize these principles so I can better appreciate the games and refs' work.
Ernest Chen The thing is, Nunn has an interesting interpretation of it. For example, he said the LeBron game 1 play was a charge, no matter if it is reviewed or not.
@@bballbreakdown NBA level step thru = travel read rule 4 and rule 10. The nba travel rule is defined in rule 4. Rule 4 says traveling is progressing in any direction in excess of what’s written in rule 10. Rule 10 consists of rules 10a -10h If you exceed 10a OR 10b OR 10c etc it’s a travel. This means when you exceed one it’s an auto travel, you don’t need to exceed all of them. Rule 4 uses the word limit this means there is a maximum amount of progress you can do and it’s written in rule 10. So if you exceed anything in rule 10 it’s a travel. Rule 10d says after gather while progressing, you are allowed 2 steps to shoot pass or STOP. When you upfake to do the up and under, you choose to stop your progression. You are at your PROGRESSING LIMIT. So when you step thru and stand on one foot, you have established a new spot on the court. This is progressing again. You are not down where you pivot foot is anymore. This is PROGRESSING again. This by definition exceeds rule 10b. For example. Stand at the bottom of a stair case. Dribble a ball and progress to a stop at the bottom of a set of stairs. Now pivot one foot in front of you onto the first step. Lift the pivot foot and stand on one foot. You are now standing on the first step. You establish a new position on the stairs and have progressed towards the top of the stairs. The same thing happens during an up n under. In short: 10b ALLOWS: progress 2 steps, pass, shoot, or stop. 10b EXCEEDING: progress 2 steps, pass, shoot, or STOP. Progress again. This is what happens in an up and under move. This exceeds the progressing limits set in rule 10b Rule 10d does not say I can exceed rule 10b in order to perform 10d.
Let’s say I catch the ball at the top of the key. Left foot is my pivot. I cross my right foot over and lift my left foot. Jump off the right and swing the ball to the wing. That’s legal? I guess the rule allows it but that getting called 100% of the time. Crazy how inconsistent it is
High School? NFHS rules? If you lift your pivot before the ball is out of your hands, it's a travel, if it's to start a dribble. HS refs LOVE this call around here. It's a huge advantage, so it really should be called 100% of the time. I'm not so sure about if you pass, I think you should be ok lifting the pivot foot as long as it doesn't come down (like a shot). I agree, that would be called a travel 100% of the time around here. Maybe refs are anticipating the dribble? Sometimes the way it's called in your area is more important than the rule.
@@matthewmullins4046 school grade refs in any sport shouldn't even qualify as being called refs. they tend to bairly even know the rules in my experience.
Because listen, this gather step is only an nba thing. Zero has no value and you can’t step zero times so what it really is is that you can step three times ONLY in the nba (and whatever other professional leagues that abide to nba rules) but it’s two times anywhere else. I think they made this gather step because two steps weren’t enough for nba players since it almost always takes three steps to dunk so they allowed it for entertainment purposes.
Shwabbit I don’t get it. What is so difficult about the rule?? After establishing control of the ball through either palming the ball, pinning it to the body, putting the hand under the ball or grabbing it with both hands, the player has two steps left. So, the step on which he’s is establishing control of the ball is his ZERO/GATHER STEP.
Coach, doing this in person helped my understanding a lot. Hopefully, you can do this again with charges vs blocking fouls (and some pads for protection).
Hey Coach, I just wanted to say how happy I am for you. I think you had around 30k subs when I subscribed, to see you have half a million now is so insane. I love how you've been keeping the content fresh, it's easy to tell how much effort you put into these. It seems like the videos get better and better! I can't wait to see what the future holds for BBALLBREAKDOWN!
Also I'd like to see when entering the frontcourt with the ball at 3:20 they simply show LIFTING the backfoot (having it over the BC line, but having no contact in the BC). I think this makes you now fully FC right, even though your back foot is in the air in the backcourt??
Don't know if you've already made a video on this but I was wondering. If the CP3 high five with Harden's mum wasn't legal, would it be out of bounds if a defender is making contact with the ofensive ball handler while stepping out of bounds? I've see this happen at the baseline with no out of bounds call. What am I missing?
On the backing violation, I think you forgot to define where the midcourt line belongs. From my understanding, the midcourt line is part of the backcourt (from this definition, the backcourt is always longer than the frontcourt), so maybe you should include scenarios where the player(s) step on the midcourt line in your rules explanation. As always, great job guys!
Also I'd like to see when entering the frontcourt with the ball at 3:20 they simply show LIFTING the backfoot (having it over the BC line, but having no contact in the BC). I think this makes you now fully FC right, even though your back foot is in the air in the backcourt??
What about the spin move that everybody calls a travel. That’s is pretty much a drop step or the same steps as a pull up jumper. Like Tony Parker’s spin move or paul pierce etc....
Just so everyone can see, the up and under jumping off one foot and the gather step rules are LEGAL in both the NBA and FIBA. FIBA introduced the gather step (step zero in their terminology) October 2017.
You guys spent a lot of time on backcourt ... I figured you would talk about Pro hop, power dribble with jump stop, taking steps to take a jump shot after you receive a pass, etc
5:14 confuses me a little. By FIBA rules if a foot is lifted it keeps its status until it is returned to the floor. Is this really different in by the NBA rules? I tried finding the rule in the NBA rule book, but it does not seem to address that issue. Until now I thought in this aspect it is the same rule in FIBA and NBA. Then it would be a front-to-back!
Touching the ball after going out of bounds....fine if forced out. fine off a rebound and a pass. fine even if only ONE foot is in and other is in the air. Also if you catch the ball in the air--you are where ever you jumped from ex. jump from out of bounds then you are in violation.
Good stuff. For the nitpicking guys: Unanswered questions: 1) What happens when you dribble over the midcourt line, ball touches the frontcourt (so the ball is in the frontcourt), left foot touches the frontcourt, but right foot hasn't, but is lifted... and then lands back on the backcourt (and then you dribble back the backcourt). 2) Is the midcourt line part of the backcourt, the frontcourt, or both? (i.e. if you're on the frontcourt and step on the line, is that backcourt violation? ) (similarly, if you step on the line and the frontcourt with one foot, and the other foot and ball are then moved to the frontcourt, are you on the frontcourt, or do you still need to move your foot to the frontcourt?) As far as I know, midcourt line is part of the backcourt, and you need to have both feet and ball having touched the frontcourt to establish a frontcourt position
Great job! I was fighting with people about this for years. Even Kevin Garnet doesn't understand that rule ( first one)on was confusing people on his show claiming it's illegal.
Just saw the spurs raptors game and came looking for this video and they got it right, i thought it should've been spurs ball but i assume your backcourt explaination applies to out of bounds and if so they nailed it
Immabeadolphin that Will help a lot of people because they think that you cannot lift your pivot foot. What it's illegal is to put It back on the floor
And he's right. That's a travel. It should, however, be tolerated if it's not blatant, i.e. if you release the ball shortly after changing the pivot foot. I really don't get what Ronnie is talking about. Changing pivot feet is illegal by definition. (granted, I'm talking from a FIBA perspective, but would be shocked if that's any different in the NBA).
Immabeadolphin... Here is the simplest way to explain pivot foot rules to ur friend.... You can lift you pivot foot to shoot/dunk/layup/or to pass as long as the ball is gone before ur pivot foot comes back down. However u cannot lift your pivot foot before dribbling. You must begin to dribble. Meaning the ball needs to be heading down to the court and out of ur hand before u lift ur pivot foot. Simple
I like it. I officiate military basketball, and recreation basketball. Once I get enough time off to take the training for high school officials, I plan on moving forward. Thanks for the help fellows. 👍🏿🏀
Iknow both are the same,but they do the james harden euro step and the both feet gather,in the nba that legal. but in here in the philippines they always call it a travel. so thats why im asking coach nick if are the same call or not because we using fiba rules here.
Here's a recent question debated on a 3 on 3 pick up game recently. A guy dribbled and pulled up for a jump shot, his shot was an airball, but bcuz of where he was he was able to get his own rebound. But this is where the debate started, he then proceeded to start back his dribble. My question..... can he after rebounded his own airball start back a dribble?
This is very cool but I’m thinking there’s no way especially when looking at the passer and receiver with the backcourt violation that a ref could see and calculate all that in enough time to feel confident making a close call like that
Was hoping for a "hand is part of the ball" explanation, with the "high five" correlation, as well as in a rebound situation. If my hand is on the ball, and your hand pushes my hand to make the ball go out, it's out on you. Another one people always get wrong is the "hop travel." You can't jump off of and land on the same foot. Gather step is irrelevant. Along with the backcourt violation, I would have liked to see something on establishing inbounds. When the ball is going out, you can save it, step out, establish yourself inbounds again, and be the first person to touch the ball. Some people think you can't, others argue about whether it's one foot or two feet to establish inbounds.
ALRIGHT! I finally gotta ask lol anybody could answer this question but I would really love to hear what coach has to say. So, when doing the jump stop I’ve been told if I pound the ball with my right hand I gotta jump off my left foot then land on two; only then I can pivot. Is that true? Or can I pound the ball with my right hand and jump off my right foot then land on two and still dribble? Which version of the two is the right way.
Jimmy Tnmz both are legal, the first one is mechanically easier to do. (You can't dribble after the jump stop though or it will be called a double dribble violation).
Coach, can I take my two steps and not release the ball for a layup/shot/pass.... Like take my two steps for a layup but then hold on to the ball to fake the defender, get him in the air and then release for the shot?
Quick Question! I you do the pivot move off of one foot after dribbling is it still legal? or is it only legal if you catch the ball and don't dribble??
What's the rule on out of bound/inbound plays? Like say I'm dribbling inbounds and lose control of the ball and I fall out of bounds, but the ball is still inbounds, I then go back inbounds set 2 feet back in. Can I continue dribbling?
Nope, you have to stay inbounds to have legal control of the ball.... Otherwise, we won't see players like Dennis Rodman diving for loose balls to save a possession or play.
Damn. I edited this out but Ronnie showed it. If you touch it, like tap it back as you’re running, then run out of bounds, you’re allowed to come back in and grab it. Just need one foot down on the ground inbounds and the 2nd foot in the air
As I recall, back the in the 2008 Olympics during the Gold Medal game, Deron Williams got called for a backcourt violation after taking a single step into the frontcourt while dribbling, then stepping back again. Mike Breen (the play-by-play commentator) then stated that the backcourt rules were different in FIBA compared to the NBA. So it's either that, or the International refs just suck. :P
I think it was different back then. I'm from France and if I'm not mistaken they updated FIBA rules last year so we can gather (step 0) like in the NBA, and you have to have the ball + both feet in the frontcourt to have frontcourt status and so it's not a backcourt violation anymore.
I was always told that if I do the up and under I have to jump of both feet, I will get so many anoying travel calls If I dont : ( Is that a Europe vs NBA difference?? I think it is kind of odd. imagine you are pivoting at the three point line and then slowly jumping of your non-pivot foot to pass everybody will call me for travelling.
Show them a layup, the footwork of a layout is identical, just the direction of the movement is different. At the end of the layup, you end up lifting your pivot foot, just like the up and under.
AtFirstIAmHuman FIBA basketball changed the rules last year adapting to the nba so It shouldn't be called a travel anywhere in the world. Unless referees don't know the new rules
Changing the pivot foot before releasing the ball (in an up & under situation) can't be legal. I accept that it should be tolerated to a certain extent (if it's not blatant), but legal?? No way. The move at 9:08 isn't legal either, because the jump stop in that situation is the second step in your 1-2 step move and you have to immediately pass or shot the ball after it. It's a travel otherwise. Granted, I'm talking from a FIBA perspective, but I really doubt that basics like these are any different in the NBA. I think I would have noticed it in all the years of watching it.
thank you for having an nba referee corroborate on the legality of the 1 legged up and under debate, it's a no-brainer by the rule book yet so many people strongly believe it is a travel (doesn't help when KG and GP also slate the move as a travel). I've heard people say "well then, you could just stay on one leg like a flamingo forever" - get out of your seat and try that firstly, it's a lot harder than you imagine to stay upright on the one foot without resulting in a walk, especially in a game of basketball you will just lose your balance instantly with contact resulting in a turnover.
2k needs to watch this video because they call backcourt violations wrong all the time!
Anthony Norman I swear
Dead ass
Fax cuz ill be on the line and when i go one foot goes back 🤦🏼🤦🏼
im pretty sure its because they track the position of the whole player, not individual feet or the ball
Man! It's not surprising that refs make so many honest mistakes, and the fans understand many correct rulings wrong! Tough business! Thanks for this insightful video. I hope I'll memorize these principles so I can better appreciate the games and refs' work.
LeBron actually travels a lot
Great vid but if possible pls do one on charge, explaining the setting of feet and everyt related to charge
Ernest Chen +
Ernest Chen From my understanding, it's always that two feet must be set with no hip or torso movement before falling.
PsyK Films but there are charge calls that don't involve falling or planted feet.
Ernest Chen
The thing is, Nunn has an interesting interpretation of it.
For example, he said the LeBron game 1 play was a charge, no matter if it is reviewed or not.
PsyK Films it really has almost nothing to do with setting the feet.
Always?
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Dew it!
Mikko Lopez
Anger leads to hate.
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I think some people just need a hug or something. I thought it was a funny joke FWIW.
Jonas Conrad hah
Haha perfect timing
Great informational video Coach, keep it up
That first move was straight up 2k cheese. I got so many travels called on me because the illegal animation is in the game
Marlo Stanfield Damn.
Oof
What did basketball fans do before this channel? I feel like we've been in the dark ages for so long before BBallbreakdown was a thing.
Haha, 🤷🏻♂️🏀
Daegan AM We call that the “Dark Ages.”
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NBA level step thru = travel read rule 4 and rule 10.
The nba travel rule is defined in rule 4. Rule 4 says traveling is progressing in any direction in excess of what’s written in rule 10.
Rule 10 consists of rules 10a -10h If you exceed 10a OR 10b OR 10c etc it’s a travel. This means when you exceed one it’s an auto travel, you don’t need to exceed all of them.
Rule 4 uses the word limit this means there is a maximum amount of progress you can do and it’s written in rule 10. So if you exceed anything in rule 10 it’s a travel.
Rule 10d says after gather while progressing, you are allowed 2 steps to shoot pass or STOP. When you upfake to do the up and under, you choose to stop your progression. You are at your PROGRESSING LIMIT. So when you step thru and stand on one foot, you have established a new spot on the court. This is progressing again. You are not down where you pivot foot is anymore. This is PROGRESSING again. This by definition exceeds rule 10b.
For example. Stand at the bottom of a stair case. Dribble a ball and progress to a stop at the bottom of a set of stairs. Now pivot one foot in front of you onto the first step. Lift the pivot foot and stand on one foot. You are now standing on the first step. You establish a new position on the stairs and have progressed towards the top of the stairs. The same thing happens during an up n under.
In short:
10b ALLOWS: progress 2 steps, pass, shoot, or stop.
10b EXCEEDING: progress 2 steps, pass, shoot, or STOP. Progress again.
This is what happens in an up and under move. This exceeds the progressing limits set in rule 10b
Rule 10d does not say I can exceed rule 10b in order to perform 10d.
Let’s say I catch the ball at the top of the key. Left foot is my pivot. I cross my right foot over and lift my left foot. Jump off the right and swing the ball to the wing. That’s legal? I guess the rule allows it but that getting called 100% of the time. Crazy how inconsistent it is
That definitely wouldn’t get called a travel.
High School? NFHS rules? If you lift your pivot before the ball is out of your hands, it's a travel, if it's to start a dribble. HS refs LOVE this call around here. It's a huge advantage, so it really should be called 100% of the time.
I'm not so sure about if you pass, I think you should be ok lifting the pivot foot as long as it doesn't come down (like a shot). I agree, that would be called a travel 100% of the time around here. Maybe refs are anticipating the dribble? Sometimes the way it's called in your area is more important than the rule.
Larry Griffiths your instinct is correct. It is travelling if the next move is to start a dribble. Legal if you are going into a shot or pass.
BBALLBREAKDOWN I've been called for Travels for doing that in HS games
@@matthewmullins4046 school grade refs in any sport shouldn't even qualify as being called refs. they tend to bairly even know the rules in my experience.
I do that gather step. Dudes be like "travel." And I'm like y'all don't know basketball.
Frederick Joseph Sale dude the personified rule book is speaking in this video
Because listen, this gather step is only an nba thing. Zero has no value and you can’t step zero times so what it really is is that you can step three times ONLY in the nba (and whatever other professional leagues that abide to nba rules) but it’s two times anywhere else. I think they made this gather step because two steps weren’t enough for nba players since it almost always takes three steps to dunk so they allowed it for entertainment purposes.
Shwabbit I don’t get it. What is so difficult about the rule?? After establishing control of the ball through either palming the ball, pinning it to the body, putting the hand under the ball or grabbing it with both hands, the player has two steps left. So, the step on which he’s is establishing control of the ball is his ZERO/GATHER STEP.
I think FIBA does not do the gather step. I think. Someome might want to look it up. Hahaha
Shwabbit without a gather step, you would have to dribble every two steps whether you're going up or not. That's not how ANYONE plays
Coach, doing this in person helped my understanding a lot. Hopefully, you can do this again with charges vs blocking fouls (and some pads for protection).
Cue the gather step denialists! Great video Nick and Ronnie.
GREAT Timing, I was debating with my friends last night lol
Nicanon same
You guys should’ve added charges and blocking foul clarification.
Icy Bach idk if refs even know the rules on that sometimes
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Hey Coach, I just wanted to say how happy I am for you. I think you had around 30k subs when I subscribed, to see you have half a million now is so insane. I love how you've been keeping the content fresh, it's easy to tell how much effort you put into these. It seems like the videos get better and better! I can't wait to see what the future holds for BBALLBREAKDOWN!
awesome video thanks Coach and Ronnie!
Also I'd like to see when entering the frontcourt with the ball at 3:20 they simply show LIFTING the backfoot (having it over the BC line, but having no contact in the BC). I think this makes you now fully FC right, even though your back foot is in the air in the backcourt??
Love this. Do more of these with Ref Nunn pls
Thanks a lot Ronnie! Great stuff!!
This channel is the real mvp
Don't know if you've already made a video on this but I was wondering. If the CP3 high five with Harden's mum wasn't legal, would it be out of bounds if a defender is making contact with the ofensive ball handler while stepping out of bounds? I've see this happen at the baseline with no out of bounds call. What am I missing?
Alot of referees tend to mistake that pivot call. Always delighted to see this channel identify this calls and set plays correctly.
On the backing violation, I think you forgot to define where the midcourt line belongs. From my understanding, the midcourt line is part of the backcourt (from this definition, the backcourt is always longer than the frontcourt), so maybe you should include scenarios where the player(s) step on the midcourt line in your rules explanation. As always, great job guys!
Also I'd like to see when entering the frontcourt with the ball at 3:20 they simply show LIFTING the backfoot (having it over the BC line, but having no contact in the BC). I think this makes you now fully FC right, even though your back foot is in the air in the backcourt??
What about the spin move that everybody calls a travel. That’s is pretty much a drop step or the same steps as a pull up jumper. Like Tony Parker’s spin move or paul pierce etc....
Very nice sir! This is indeed helpful! Thank you so much
loving the variety in video content coach!
Just so everyone can see, the up and under jumping off one foot and the gather step rules are LEGAL in both the NBA and FIBA. FIBA introduced the gather step (step zero in their terminology) October 2017.
You guys spent a lot of time on backcourt ... I figured you would talk about Pro hop, power dribble with jump stop, taking steps to take a jump shot after you receive a pass, etc
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Nice & helpful Vid. Keep it up! Are there any videos on NBA & FIBA rules on Fouls?
5:14 confuses me a little. By FIBA rules if a foot is lifted it keeps its status until it is returned to the floor. Is this really different in by the NBA rules? I tried finding the rule in the NBA rule book, but it does not seem to address that issue. Until now I thought in this aspect it is the same rule in FIBA and NBA.
Then it would be a front-to-back!
Great video as always coach
Thank you Coach! super super helpful!
Thanks Coach Nick and Ronnie, love this stuff!
what about the dribbling the ball, going out of bounds and being the first to touch the ball again.
Touching the ball after going out of bounds....fine if forced out. fine off a rebound and a pass. fine even if only ONE foot is in and other is in the air. Also if you catch the ball in the air--you are where ever you jumped from ex. jump from out of bounds then you are in violation.
Good stuff. For the nitpicking guys:
Unanswered questions:
1) What happens when you dribble over the midcourt line, ball touches the frontcourt (so the ball is in the frontcourt), left foot touches the frontcourt, but right foot hasn't, but is lifted... and then lands back on the backcourt (and then you dribble back the backcourt).
2) Is the midcourt line part of the backcourt, the frontcourt, or both?
(i.e. if you're on the frontcourt and step on the line, is that backcourt violation? )
(similarly, if you step on the line and the frontcourt with one foot, and the other foot and ball are then moved to the frontcourt, are you on the frontcourt, or do you still need to move your foot to the frontcourt?)
As far as I know, midcourt line is part of the backcourt, and you need to have both feet and ball having touched the frontcourt to establish a frontcourt position
Great questions. As for the line, it’s just like the sideline or baseline, any part of it is out of bounds.
This was wonderful! I bet you had a great time, meeting in person!
Thank you!
Really interesting video coach, had no idea about the both feet + ball in frontcourt and one step - jumpstop rules.
👍👍🏀🏀
Great job! I was fighting with people about this for years. Even Kevin Garnet doesn't understand that rule ( first one)on was confusing people on his show claiming it's illegal.
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Oh, I know!
I gather step and I always get called out for travel 🤣
Samuel Holloway and I’m gonna keep calling a travel on you
Just saw the spurs raptors game and came looking for this video and they got it right, i thought it should've been spurs ball but i assume your backcourt explaination applies to out of bounds and if so they nailed it
Thank you for making this. My friend always calls a travel when I lift my pivot to shoot
Immabeadolphin that Will help a lot of people because they think that you cannot lift your pivot foot. What it's illegal is to put It back on the floor
And he's right. That's a travel. It should, however, be tolerated if it's not blatant, i.e. if you release the ball shortly after changing the pivot foot.
I really don't get what Ronnie is talking about. Changing pivot feet is illegal by definition. (granted, I'm talking from a FIBA perspective, but would be shocked if that's any different in the NBA).
Immabeadolphin... Here is the simplest way to explain pivot foot rules to ur friend.... You can lift you pivot foot to shoot/dunk/layup/or to pass as long as the ball is gone before ur pivot foot comes back down. However u cannot lift your pivot foot before dribbling. You must begin to dribble. Meaning the ball needs to be heading down to the court and out of ur hand before u lift ur pivot foot. Simple
@bcbro11 Where did you read shuch thing as switching the pivot foot? Theres not a single rule in the fiba rulebook poiting this as a travel
Great stuff ! My favourite basketball channel. !
I love you two collaborating
Been waiting on this video, thanks for breaking down in the gym
Please clarify in the description box if this is FIBA or NBA rule only. Especially the Back Court rule. Thanks very much.
It is NBA rules at least.
I like it. I officiate military basketball, and recreation basketball. Once I get enough time off to take the training for high school officials, I plan on moving forward. Thanks for the help fellows. 👍🏿🏀
Iknow both are the same,but they do the james harden euro step and the both feet gather,in the nba that legal. but in here in the philippines they always call it a travel. so thats why im asking coach nick if are the same call or not because we using fiba rules here.
Love these educational videos.
Here's a recent question debated on a 3 on 3 pick up game recently. A guy dribbled and pulled up for a jump shot, his shot was an airball, but bcuz of where he was he was able to get his own rebound. But this is where the debate started, he then proceeded to start back his dribble. My question..... can he after rebounded his own airball start back a dribble?
This was really good information. Great video
Great video thanks.
I am always shocked to see experienced players like Kevin Garnett claiming pivot is a travel.
Great great review!
Great video, really educational.
Thx!!!
No probs
This is very cool but I’m thinking there’s no way especially when looking at the passer and receiver with the backcourt violation that a ref could see and calculate all that in enough time to feel confident making a close call like that
This should go viral. PLEASE!
Would to see another one of these but with more breakdown of the post and post moves
great video coach!
Yes!! I’ve been saying Up and Under move was legal forever but pickup buddies always gave me flak about it.
Great Video!
I have a question. If you receive the ball from a pass then you jump into a shot motion then you shoot that's a travel right?
Good microphones on this video. Mind me asking what lavs you used?
Sennheiser
Was hoping for a "hand is part of the ball" explanation, with the "high five" correlation, as well as in a rebound situation. If my hand is on the ball, and your hand pushes my hand to make the ball go out, it's out on you.
Another one people always get wrong is the "hop travel." You can't jump off of and land on the same foot. Gather step is irrelevant.
Along with the backcourt violation, I would have liked to see something on establishing inbounds. When the ball is going out, you can save it, step out, establish yourself inbounds again, and be the first person to touch the ball. Some people think you can't, others argue about whether it's one foot or two feet to establish inbounds.
Most definitely gonna use that pivot foot one😈
Thank you so much coach
Absolutely fantastic video
ALRIGHT! I finally gotta ask lol anybody could answer this question but I would really love to hear what coach has to say. So, when doing the jump stop I’ve been told if I pound the ball with my right hand I gotta jump off my left foot then land on two; only then I can pivot. Is that true? Or can I pound the ball with my right hand and jump off my right foot then land on two and still dribble? Which version of the two is the right way.
Jimmy Tnmz both are legal, the first one is mechanically easier to do. (You can't dribble after the jump stop though or it will be called a double dribble violation).
We need More videos Coach and Sr. Ronnie. SALUDOS from México.
Helped me definitely. Thanks coaches
Coach, can I take my two steps and not release the ball for a layup/shot/pass.... Like take my two steps for a layup but then hold on to the ball to fake the defender, get him in the air and then release for the shot?
You could, in theory, keep your foot up in the air and balance like that but.....
BBALLBREAKDOWN ...but you doubt it's effectiveness?
Quick Question! I you do the pivot move off of one foot after dribbling is it still legal? or is it only legal if you catch the ball and don't dribble??
Legal either way
What's the rule on out of bound/inbound plays? Like say I'm dribbling inbounds and lose control of the ball and I fall out of bounds, but the ball is still inbounds, I then go back inbounds set 2 feet back in. Can I continue dribbling?
Nope, you have to stay inbounds to have legal control of the ball....
Otherwise, we won't see players like Dennis Rodman diving for loose balls to save a possession or play.
Damn. I edited this out but Ronnie showed it. If you touch it, like tap it back as you’re running, then run out of bounds, you’re allowed to come back in and grab it. Just need one foot down on the ground inbounds and the 2nd foot in the air
Yup, I think you need to establish your "inbounds" status on the floor before you can touch the ball and have legal control of it.
FIBA is different you have to establish 2 feet in. Same with front court/backcourt.
Do those rules apply to FiBA as well??
Michael Malandrakis Yes. Will have to double check the frontcourt/backcourt rulings but the gather step rules etc are all legal in FIBA
I think frontcourt/backcourt rules have differences
Frontcourt/Backcourt status rules are the same at all levels of basketball...
As I recall, back the in the 2008 Olympics during the Gold Medal game, Deron Williams got called for a backcourt violation after taking a single step into the frontcourt while dribbling, then stepping back again. Mike Breen (the play-by-play commentator) then stated that the backcourt rules were different in FIBA compared to the NBA.
So it's either that, or the International refs just suck. :P
I think it was different back then. I'm from France and if I'm not mistaken they updated FIBA rules last year so we can gather (step 0) like in the NBA, and you have to have the ball + both feet in the frontcourt to have frontcourt status and so it's not a backcourt violation anymore.
what shoes did he have at 2:19?
Very practical lesson.
Thanks for this vid!!!
I'm pretty sure refs would call a backcourt anyways because they don't expect players to be that slick lol
Great Video. Does this apply to FIBA Rules as well?
Wow this is such a great video to explain these rules, thx!! 🙏🏻
Great video..
Great video
could you analise some old games. i just watched 2011 WCF G1 and it seems like DIrk got a lot of phantom fouls.
I was always told that if I do the up and under I have to jump of both feet, I will get so many anoying travel calls If I dont : ( Is that a Europe vs NBA difference?? I think it is kind of odd. imagine you are pivoting at the three point line and then slowly jumping of your non-pivot foot to pass everybody will call me for travelling.
Show them a layup, the footwork of a layout is identical, just the direction of the movement is different. At the end of the layup, you end up lifting your pivot foot, just like the up and under.
AtFirstIAmHuman FIBA basketball changed the rules last year adapting to the nba so It shouldn't be called a travel anywhere in the world. Unless referees don't know the new rules
AtFirstIAmHuman furthermore as they say you can lift the pivot foot and shoot with one leg. What you can't do is yo put It back on the floor
Changing the pivot foot before releasing the ball (in an up & under situation) can't be legal. I accept that it should be tolerated to a certain extent (if it's not blatant), but legal?? No way. The move at 9:08 isn't legal either, because the jump stop in that situation is the second step in your 1-2 step move and you have to immediately pass or shot the ball after it. It's a travel otherwise.
Granted, I'm talking from a FIBA perspective, but I really doubt that basics like these are any different in the NBA. I think I would have noticed it in all the years of watching it.
BcroG11 The up and under is fully legal don't have to hide it it's fundamental footwork.
Great video coach. I was always curious about that backcourt violation in the back of my mind as I see Draymond keep catching it in the air like that.
thank you for having an nba referee corroborate on the legality of the 1 legged up and under debate, it's a no-brainer by the rule book yet so many people strongly believe it is a travel (doesn't help when KG and GP also slate the move as a travel). I've heard people say "well then, you could just stay on one leg like a flamingo forever" - get out of your seat and try that firstly, it's a lot harder than you imagine to stay upright on the one foot without resulting in a walk, especially in a game of basketball you will just lose your balance instantly with contact resulting in a turnover.
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Video for my birthday?!
Preciate it coach
Hello. I have question about the first rule. I lift my pivot foot than put another foot down and jump of it. Is this a travel?
No
Great video, learned a lot! Can you also do a video on double dribble, charging foul and basket interference? Thanks
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Great Videos brother. I have learned a lot from watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
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Nice like always!
knew some of the rules from your previous videos with Ronnie, got some clarity on some from this one!
great video as always coach !! 👌🏽👏🏽🏀
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Great! Please develop more basketball fundamental videos for youth and fans. Thx!
Very interesting coach
nice to know,thanks coach
Id like to see ronnie talk about clear path fouls and charging vs blocking
Thank you