Terminator:"You can consolidate Macedonia or you can move agressively against Rome. It's all viable options" IRL Pirrus of Epirus "Why not both and then some?!" :)
Great walkthrough Terminator! I usually invade southern Italy rather than consolidate the balkan provinces. You’re right about Rome! Fighting against Rome is not only hard but also quite tedious with supplies and lack of manpower. I can’t remember how I got through but basically i tried to preserve my elephants and phalangites with less casualties as possible. Spamming trash units low tier hoplites is the only way to preserve it but thats my old method.
@@TheTerminatorGaming how is it tough to beat Rome on normal mode? I dont get it, on normal you can beat anybody very easy in DEI, I played a campaign on VH campaign and VH battle difficulty as Getae, and raped Rome in late
Hammer and envil is the best strategy of the ancient times. Also: flank your missile units over your left flank (not right) to attack the weapon right side of the ennemies, more damage done than against their shield side !! Missiel flank left, peltasts and sword or falx units on the right flanking, cavalry also on the right to open up the ennemy towards your front line push assault.
Hey, can you do top 10 lists of AoR Units in certain areas? The areas would be multiple provinces, for example, the Roman list, the AoR units would be selected from Cisalpine Gual, Latium, Magna Graecea, and Sicily respectively. The Hellas list would come from Hellas, Makedonia, then lastly whatever Province Pergamon and Pontus start out in. You get the gist, but here's some more. The "Near Barbarians" would focus on the AoR Units in Thrace, Illyria, Dacia, and Pannonia, The "Indian" list would all focus on the provinces at the very easternmost provinces of the map. Particular favorites of mine are the Sica-bearers, who are Thureos Swordsmen before Thureos Reforms, who have superior attack but less armor. The non-mercenary version of the Balearic Slingers, and of course my biggest favorite of them all, The Dart Slinger, who just simply devastate all enemies they shoot with little resistance!
@@FazlurTheGreat A tip for Athen you can take the city of Knossos/ Kreta Turn 1 you just have to siege their city with you fleet, and with the mercenarys you can have around 5 or 6 ships. They will atack you and than you can destroy their whole army+garrison works also with macedon and Rhodos
I recommend smashing Rome as quickly as possible, before they become too dangerous. Take Cosentia and Beneventum asap and hold Beneventum as a shield against Roma while you raid Asculum for all it is worth. Remember, you can always take a province with the option that gives you 9k+ gold, and just abandon it later. That was how I financed my war with Rome. I think I raided Asculum three times that way, and Ariminum once, before moving in to actually capture it. A great benefit with focusing on Rome early (apart from the obvious) is that Latium is probably the most OP province in the entire game with 3 strategic resources. In my Epirus game about turn 70 it is making me 12k+ per turn. Also a top tip for Rome 2: You can abuse night battles against the AI to take out their armies one by one. Fun fact, in Three Kingdoms, the AI will do that to you too :D
@@ziosam850 AFAIK the AI does not choose the night battle trait in DeI. At least in my experience. This means that you can destroy the AI armies in battles the AI would not otherwise accept. E.g. a not-quite-fullstack that would otherwise withdraw may accept a battle because the AI thinks it will get the other full stack that is within reinforcement range. Surprise, night battle! The AI army does not get any reinforcements, and you can wipe them out with few casualties for your army. I hope that was clear enough :P The AI during the battle itself does not change.
@@danielkristiansen2298 thx for clarification, i had the suspect that ai could go dumb during night battles in DEI, but now it's clearer for me when to use the option for night battle
I have tried the Epirus campaign thrice, and it has ended the same way every time: I ally with the Etruscans and Athenians, wipe out Rome, then I enter an inescapable period of stagnation because rebellions break out in Latium every turn and my armies are not replenishing. The Illyrians usually declare war and sack my coastal towns, whereas Carthage sends a couple of full stacks up from Sicily to finish me off.
The elephant allows you to fight both Rome and Macedonia, Sparta, Athena. The only problem is starting Rome army of heavy units (spearmen’s). Use elephants as chariots, they literally crush units, if they have same/lighter mass. Even on hard it works.
at first i was fine, i made athens and sparta start to like me but Rome i was winning battles but they can literally recruit so many units at once that it was literally 2-3 roman armies against my Epirus full stack
Hey dude I've been smashing you DEI videos as I used to play total war about 10 years ago and trying to get back into it using this mod. One question I have is does shock infantry have any benefit over shock cav? Surely they are just slower so harder to get behind troops compared to shock cav?
Hey another question my friend. As a new player and very new to DEI is there any factions you recommend. For me id just like to play a faction with a fun army to use for the full campaign as the battles are what I enjoy the most. I love sparta so wanted to play them but their unit roster just looks boring to use as you just stand still with most your army
Can u help me man? Fan of your videos I’m playing 1.2.8 and epeiros isn’t on the successor kingdoms tab. I’ve tried redownloading the mod and disabling any others besides the main one and can’t get them to show up.
Disagree on general strategy.. Take magna grecia immediately. Push into Italy immediately. Spend all your money on armies, pikemen, archers, and mercenaries as you go. Letting the Romans build up will only make things increasingly difficult. Rome does not have sufficient armies to match you at the beginning.
hey man love the content but when Macedonia sallys out against me its on an open battle field and the garrison does not come out first. do you know if there is a way to prevent this or win a battle like this
If you want to try that on VH/VH there is a way that is doable. You can sack and then liberate many Italian nations. You gain a lot of money (through trade + sack) and allies against Rome. WIth the money, you should buy mercenaries :)
Fair enough, DEI 1.2.8 limits the mercenaries so that's why I didn't go down that route, but it's definitely possible as you say. Especially if you use liberations :)
Epirus starts at war with 2 power factions (rome, qart)and it means no peace untill you finish each other(its stupid). And you are not in war with them only, you fight with veneti and all african tribes. At start you just hope nobody attack you at home. My 1st strategy (1st campaign in dei) i went full on rome an that was kind a mistake but i manage it. Secure italy than move to sicily but leave 1 army on north coz of pirates and nothern gauls. Grind battles against qart and after sicily taken build fleet then slowly move to sardinia and corsica. Then take macedonia and rest is easier but dont invade africa (like i did) for a while just defend islands with 2 fleets. Rest is much easy. 2nd strategy that i will try but just for fun. Rush cosentia and beneventum and make them military allies than go asculum military aly than subjugate rome or destroy. Go take macedonia than hellas and aly with thrace and tolistobogi. Than go asia slowly while you defeating qart with fleet ask ransom so you get money and relation bonus while you can take transports easy.
I'm aware that I'm playing a later update so it's not the same as in this video. But God this campaign feels impossible. Every nearby power declared war within the first 5 turns
From my experience playing DEI that was alway the worst part about the AI. Multiple campaign runs were ruined because of the AI deciding to all a gang up on me.
I very much prefer rushing rome... Before they get their first reforms, Epirus actually has BETTER units, both in the case of value and actual ability to go toe to toe with Romans. Rome starts out weak and scattered, focusing on a war that the AI somehow manages to fumble... Easy win, and you either get a great province, or a ton of money from loot-sack exploiting.
Terminator:"You can consolidate Macedonia or you can move agressively against Rome. It's all viable options"
IRL Pirrus of Epirus "Why not both and then some?!" :)
Why dont we just resolve this free for all until i get bored and bail out
Great walkthrough Terminator! I usually invade southern Italy rather than consolidate the balkan provinces. You’re right about Rome! Fighting against Rome is not only hard but also quite tedious with supplies and lack of manpower. I can’t remember how I got through but basically i tried to preserve my elephants and phalangites with less casualties as possible. Spamming trash units low tier hoplites is the only way to preserve it but thats my old method.
Thanks bud! And yeah I might do a guide on how to beat Rome straight off but it is tough no doubt :) what faction you want to see next?
@@TheTerminatorGaming how is it tough to beat Rome on normal mode? I dont get it, on normal you can beat anybody very easy in DEI, I played a campaign on VH campaign and VH battle difficulty as Getae, and raped Rome in late
Pyrrhus really should've been a DLC campaign like Hannibal was. Really big missed opportunity.
Same for Mithridates VI of Pontus.
Hammer and envil is the best strategy of the ancient times. Also: flank your missile units over your left flank (not right) to attack the weapon right side of the ennemies, more damage done than against their shield side !! Missiel flank left, peltasts and sword or falx units on the right flanking, cavalry also on the right to open up the ennemy towards your front line push assault.
Excellent points!
Focusing on Rome first is actually a really effective play as Epirus. You have elephants, which can easily destroy Rome’s armies at start.
How do you access these factions??
@@isaachernandez136 Divide et Impera mod, plus you may need to get faction packs that CA has put in to steal more of our money ;)
Hey, can you do top 10 lists of AoR Units in certain areas? The areas would be multiple provinces, for example, the Roman list, the AoR units would be selected from Cisalpine Gual, Latium, Magna Graecea, and Sicily respectively. The Hellas list would come from Hellas, Makedonia, then lastly whatever Province Pergamon and Pontus start out in.
You get the gist, but here's some more.
The "Near Barbarians" would focus on the AoR Units in Thrace, Illyria, Dacia, and Pannonia, The "Indian" list would all focus on the provinces at the very easternmost provinces of the map.
Particular favorites of mine are the Sica-bearers, who are Thureos Swordsmen before Thureos Reforms, who have superior attack but less armor. The non-mercenary version of the Balearic Slingers, and of course my biggest favorite of them all, The Dart Slinger, who just simply devastate all enemies they shoot with little resistance!
Yess 10 turns for Epirus, I would like to request if i may, umm can you do it for Athens?, I had a good time with Rome thanks to your 10 turns tips
Aww thanks mate and would love to!
@@TheTerminatorGaming Don't Mention It General! Thanks to your tips, now I can lead my troops to glory
@@FazlurTheGreat A tip for Athen you can take the city of Knossos/ Kreta Turn 1 you just have to siege their city with you fleet, and with the mercenarys you can have around 5 or 6 ships. They will atack you and than you can destroy their whole army+garrison works also with macedon and Rhodos
@@Fabioonn Thank u for the tips dude,hope u always doing well
@@Fabioonn Thank u for the tips dude,hope u always doing well
You’ve saved my night lol I was bound and determined to do it lol
I recommend smashing Rome as quickly as possible, before they become too dangerous. Take Cosentia and Beneventum asap and hold Beneventum as a shield against Roma while you raid Asculum for all it is worth. Remember, you can always take a province with the option that gives you 9k+ gold, and just abandon it later. That was how I financed my war with Rome. I think I raided Asculum three times that way, and Ariminum once, before moving in to actually capture it. A great benefit with focusing on Rome early (apart from the obvious) is that Latium is probably the most OP province in the entire game with 3 strategic resources. In my Epirus game about turn 70 it is making me 12k+ per turn.
Also a top tip for Rome 2: You can abuse night battles against the AI to take out their armies one by one. Fun fact, in Three Kingdoms, the AI will do that to you too :D
Can you shed some light on night battles? In what way they affect ai?
@@ziosam850 AFAIK the AI does not choose the night battle trait in DeI. At least in my experience. This means that you can destroy the AI armies in battles the AI would not otherwise accept. E.g. a not-quite-fullstack that would otherwise withdraw may accept a battle because the AI thinks it will get the other full stack that is within reinforcement range. Surprise, night battle! The AI army does not get any reinforcements, and you can wipe them out with few casualties for your army. I hope that was clear enough :P
The AI during the battle itself does not change.
@@danielkristiansen2298 thx for clarification, i had the suspect that ai could go dumb during night battles in DEI, but now it's clearer for me when to use the option for night battle
Keep up the great work, love the content.
Amazing video. I hope to see Carthage next👀.
Thanks bud!
I have tried the Epirus campaign thrice, and it has ended the same way every time: I ally with the Etruscans and Athenians, wipe out Rome, then I enter an inescapable period of stagnation because rebellions break out in Latium every turn and my armies are not replenishing. The Illyrians usually declare war and sack my coastal towns, whereas Carthage sends a couple of full stacks up from Sicily to finish me off.
Awesome, thank you, great guide
Glad it was helpful!
@@TheTerminatorGaming Also, voting for getae as next faction guide
Good call 🙏
The elephant allows you to fight both Rome and Macedonia, Sparta, Athena. The only problem is starting Rome army of heavy units (spearmen’s). Use elephants as chariots, they literally crush units, if they have same/lighter mass. Even on hard it works.
Awesome faction guide!
Thanks bud!
@@TheTerminatorGaming I knew when I heard your voice it was gonna be epic
at first i was fine, i made athens and sparta start to like me but Rome i was winning battles but they can literally recruit so many units at once that it was literally 2-3 roman armies against my Epirus full stack
Hey dude I've been smashing you DEI videos as I used to play total war about 10 years ago and trying to get back into it using this mod. One question I have is does shock infantry have any benefit over shock cav? Surely they are just slower so harder to get behind troops compared to shock cav?
Nice one! 👍 and yes essentially shock cav is better 😂
U can take Rome in 4 turns. And destroy Rome faction in turn 6. After that it's Punic war against Carthage but this time you are not Rome
I‘d love something more in the eastern regions, like Armenia or Parthia
Yep thinking about that next 🙏
Nice Battle of Pella. Playing with the new DEI version? Why did you mention to play on normal? Is it a recommendation of the DEI devs?
Thanks bud, and yes the devs recommend playing on Normal. I think they're ok with battles on Hard but campaign is certainly balanced for Normal
Hey another question my friend. As a new player and very new to DEI is there any factions you recommend. For me id just like to play a faction with a fun army to use for the full campaign as the battles are what I enjoy the most. I love sparta so wanted to play them but their unit roster just looks boring to use as you just stand still with most your army
Baktria. Their roster has everything imaginable and it's a stable start.
Nice!
Hallo, i have noticed that there is no Epirus in my grand campaign, do you know what is going on? Thanks!
When will you play as Getae?
My only problem with Epirus is that the campaign becomes boring really fast after Rome is beaten and Carthage is contained....
Then take the fight to Carthage? :D Or you could always expand in Anatolia and face off with the Seleucids?
Try age of hellenism submod, seleucids and carthage etc are a lot more powerfull
@@almat6191 Macedon too?
@@Fabioonn yea macedon will take hegemony over greece and balcan
@@almat6191 Are there a big pain in the ass if you play Epirus and fight the Romans in Italy?
Can u help me man? Fan of your videos I’m playing 1.2.8 and epeiros isn’t on the successor kingdoms tab. I’ve tried redownloading the mod and disabling any others besides the main one and can’t get them to show up.
Disagree on general strategy.. Take magna grecia immediately. Push into Italy immediately. Spend all your money on armies, pikemen, archers, and mercenaries as you go. Letting the Romans build up will only make things increasingly difficult. Rome does not have sufficient armies to match you at the beginning.
Rome is quite OP in DEI though lol. But then again... they were in real life as well..
hey man love the content but when Macedonia sallys out against me its on an open battle field and the garrison does not come out first. do you know if there is a way to prevent this or win a battle like this
If you want to try that on VH/VH there is a way that is doable. You can sack and then liberate many Italian nations. You gain a lot of money (through trade + sack) and allies against Rome. WIth the money, you should buy mercenaries :)
Fair enough, DEI 1.2.8 limits the mercenaries so that's why I didn't go down that route, but it's definitely possible as you say. Especially if you use liberations :)
Does anyone know which type of city that will create a naval trade route?
Any recommendations for reducing long loading screens for Rome 2??
Get a good SSD drive but still be prepared for a loading screen on leaving a battle when playing DEI
The neverending pastturn is my biggest concern. Even in Warhammer Immortal Empires goes faster.
I think you should do Carthage now.
Would love to :)
Would you consider doing first 10 for Sparta or Athens?
Can do!
Thanks dude I will keep my eyes out for either one of them
Epirus starts at war with 2 power factions (rome, qart)and it means no peace untill you finish each other(its stupid). And you are not in war with them only, you fight with veneti and all african tribes. At start you just hope nobody attack you at home.
My 1st strategy (1st campaign in dei) i went full on rome an that was kind a mistake but i manage it. Secure italy than move to sicily but leave 1 army on north coz of pirates and nothern gauls. Grind battles against qart and after sicily taken build fleet then slowly move to sardinia and corsica.
Then take macedonia and rest is easier but dont invade africa (like i did) for a while just defend islands with 2 fleets. Rest is much easy.
2nd strategy that i will try but just for fun.
Rush cosentia and beneventum and make them military allies than go asculum military aly than subjugate rome or destroy. Go take macedonia than hellas and aly with thrace and tolistobogi.
Than go asia slowly while you defeating qart with fleet ask ransom so you get money and relation bonus while you can take transports easy.
I'm aware that I'm playing a later update so it's not the same as in this video. But God this campaign feels impossible. Every nearby power declared war within the first 5 turns
From my experience playing DEI that was alway the worst part about the AI. Multiple campaign runs were ruined because of the AI deciding to all a gang up on me.
U both should try using the dei softcore submod it perfectly balance ai aggressiveness
Carthage! Carthage! Carthage!
Epirus just seems way too hard haha. I like to start far away from Rome.... Have the other factions deal with all that lol
Try it! It's easier than it looks :)
You can crush the Roman legions with the great army of Epirus
Who made the mod so i can use the same mod
Just search for Divide et Impera
You might as well auto resolve all the battles as they are not worth fighting.
Foothold in Greece? You've got most of it lol.
I mean yeah but Athens and Sparta are decent factions you still need to take out :D
I very much prefer rushing rome... Before they get their first reforms, Epirus actually has BETTER units, both in the case of value and actual ability to go toe to toe with Romans. Rome starts out weak and scattered, focusing on a war that the AI somehow manages to fumble... Easy win, and you either get a great province, or a ton of money from loot-sack exploiting.
I can handle rome. I cannot handle spartan Greece and illyria all ganking my ass while I fight rome.
Dafuq is this a mod?