It's probably because the series ambiguous ending. Like the ochako deku ship that was left unanswered and deku being a teacher for five years. A lot of people really expect for deku to be the next no.1 hero. Frankly speaking I'm bit of disappointed by it but judging horikoshi poor health, I think he rush it for health reason. I don't hate it since horikoshi really need a long vacation.
The thing that has now pissed me off the most about Bakugo is his shallow apology. Never mind the fact that moments before the apology, he was mocking and belittling Izuku like always (who was at his lowest and exhausted), calling him an 'All Might wannabe' and it coming this late into the series, his apology felt like manipulation. He only focused on himself, making excuses for why he bullied Izuku but never once addressing how much he wronged Izuku. His aplogy glosses over just how much Bakugo's torment over the years affected Izuku on an emotional, physical, mental and psychological level and how it was the main facotor on Izuku's low self-worth and self-esteem issues he is still suffering from.
Exactly. And everyone is like "oh but he apologized" yeah but it's kind of a weak apology and it came so late in the series, AND it still doesn't change how he acts towards people
This is what I mean. Empathy isn’t real. And if you pretend to show it, you’ll be hated more than the so-called 'villains'. We should all treat each other like shit and act proud for it. I’m personally writing four characters like season one Bakugo, and I’m going to keep them that way.
Also, I hate how Bakugou deflects responsibility for Deku's self-sacrificing tendencies by saying it was All Might's fault. Sure, All Might gets some of the blame, but the majority of it falls on Bakugou. Deku only treats his own safety and well-being as meaningless because he was told and treated as worthless for nearly his whole life by the person he considered his best friend. But sure, Bakugou. You calling Midoriya a name that literally means "worthless" plays no part in Midoriya treating himself as if he is worthless.
@@VidiaReePhoenix EXACTLY. And true, All Might does play a part in the blame but 99% of it was on Bakugo. He actively made Izuku feel worthless about himself for years (seeing him as a pebble on the road and the very name Deku which means 'worthless').
The same Bakugo that got fangirls despite being out 98% of the war and a statue to honor him and Midoriya despite all he’s done started a gofundme and is grading papers.
It's sad how much they tolerate this kind of behavior because I've seen the impact a bully does on the lives of people they bullied. If people say it's not that big of a deal because Deku grew up fine, not everyone is as strong-willed as Deku, and seeing this being tolerated might trigger the experience they had.
True, I actually have more of a problem with Deku character than Bakugo, It’s a victim and abuser relationship you would think with Deku being bullied all his life and have to constantly be around his abuser would put a deeper affect on him BUT nope, he the prefect nice and care guy who also super strong cause he the main character!
right now the story didn't turn out that way where izuku jumps off the building/ ends up becoming a villain. Right now bakugou has realized his mistakes and is trying to do what's right . That's what matters
@@mrs.dazai_Yet it feels very unsatisfying because bakuago didn't earn it. He didnt earn the ability call himself "redeemed" he hardly suffered any long term consequences to his behavior. Got to go to the top hero school and even after he apologizes. He still shouts and gets mad at eveyone and especially deku for the littlest reason. Hes still a bully that had no reason to torment deku but did it anyways.
Exactly.And Japan has a really bad suicide rate for people that are bullied in schools .So I just feel like Horikoshi just saying hey this is fine cause deku didn't kill himself just disgusting.
The sad thing with Kirishima is that he’s just basically Deku punching bag, 2.0. to with the benefit of him being immune to the physical abuse, and too much of a naïve person to understand the psychological beating his receiving just putting it all down to dude bro banter
I wish kirishima found out about him being a bully he hates bullys, that he finds out he told a qurikless kid to kill himself id love to see karma just a lil
@@KillerGothChick Yet some people say Bakugo sincerely apologized while doing it in the vaguest way possible that the class assumed he was just still mad about the fitness test.
@@KillerGothChick Kirishima did find out about Bakugo being a bully in the first school brief books, one of Midoriya’s middle school bullies confirmed they felt bad bullying Midoriya cause he was awesome at UA’s s school sports festival, and they revealed Bakugo bullied him too, but instead of getting mad or anything the writer just makes Kirishima simply say “well, Bakugo is just a passionate guy!”
It'd wrong i want him to suffer like his mum killed infront of him sorta trauma or him losing his powers forced to be called quirkess 😂 only character I've hated so much 😂
I also find it hilarious that Shoto was raised isolated from people and with an abusive father in a broken home and is still less of a dick to people than Bakugo, who by all accounts grew up in a normal household with parents who seem to be well-off too (no, that gag of Bakugo's mom hitting him doesn't mean he's been abused because that's normal anime humor we have seen in countless series).
I find it hilarious how easily the Bakugo stans will take Bakugo being slapped upside the head as super serious and as evidence of abuse but whenever something bad happens to Izuku (like Bakugo throwing that sharp piece at Izuku's head), they are the first to say that we're taking a joke too seriously.
Bakugos character is meant to be that way because of the hero society they live in that's been the whole point of it he's a product of the broken hero society he grew up the way he did because 1. He was praised for having a good quirk to the point where it made him think he can be extremely powerful by himself and 2. The image of a hero always needing to win that he gets from all might and because all might always wins that's the type of hero Bakugo believes he has to be one that always wins and because he's grown up like that he's just the product of a failed broken hero society he develops later by learning winning isn't just about beating the villain and he learns what being a hero truly means or the hero that would fit stains ideology rather than the tv hero Bakugos been looking up to or the "image" the media gives of all might he not only focuses on saving but he's also accepted that he isn't the all powerful person he thought he was he's learned that others are what make heroes strong and fighting for others all of that hence why he tells Izuku in the war arc he can't beat shigaraki by himself asking for Bakugo to take a complete 180 and change his entire character is absurd because even Izuku hasn't changed his core values with the amount of development he's gotten Izuku was someone who had the perception a hero is someone who can save everyone while smiling and he's grown up that way despite all of his experiences still believing that asking any person to make a 180 change is unreasonable and I'm pretty sure horikoshi understands this Bakugos growth has quite literally not been that much different from endeavors even all might in the series says this ever since his growth he's always rushed to help Deku whether it be wish training when he was getting hunted by shigaraki or when Izuku was seconds away from death and Bakugo jumped in front of it to save him which is where he delivers the line "you can't do this on your own" I'm not even a Bakugo Stan he's not even top 5 characters in the show for me but saying he's horribly written is absurd because he's written genuinely well for a tool used to show how genuinely fucked up the society they live in is
Not to mention he uses his quirk illegally! Plus you could also put some assault charges or assault with a deadly weapon (his quirk) or whatever, i don't remember laws that well, not only for his bullying, but for the heros vs villains game All Might set up! All Might clearly said "You'll kill him" and bakugo replies "not if he dogdes" So he attacked someone with full knowledge that if they didn't dodge, they would die! Sorry for the rant or whatever, I'm very passionate about this lol
AND he can be charged with child abuse as well! Here, i'll point out some of the stuff he did that i consider illegal Incourage suicide Child abuse Physical assault Cruelty Child abuse once again Physical attack of a minor with No excuse ALMOST murder of a minor(Anyone under 18 is a minor.) AND HE SHOULD BE IN JAIL. LEMME- LEMME- JUST-...5..10..15...21..24. He should be in jail for 24 or more years.
@@gimp7915 ik and its really something stupid, mha now is more like Indian film than anime where characters pull stuff out of their ass, like AFO and him replacing all of he's blood just for stain
I did start to like Bakugo by the end of season 6, but he’s still one of my least favorite characters. I’ve never understood why people love him so much when he’s literally the embodiment of the “toxic male character”. I particularly love how you said that if Bakugo looked like Mineta everyone would hate him. Straight up facts. I also hate how people ship him with Deku. Like, bruh, that would be one of the most abusive relationships to ever dawn anime/manga. Good job in the video, keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for the support! Yeah, I feel like I needed to make this video cause I don't see a whole lot of people talking about it, nor do I see videos talking about it
Bakugo is the type of guy that grows to abuse his wife and children. He has no redeemable qualities and I have no gd idea why anyone finds him even remotely likable. I sware MHA fans are just trying to be edgy and diminish Bakugo as a absolutely terrible human, because of their dedication to this show. I despise how one dimensional the characters are in this anime with its desire to make the character tropes lawfull, and the only dimension of their personality. The creators have no understanding of how to eloquently articulate emotion, and how to display the nuances of the human character. Granted it is just an anime, but as someone that lives in Tokyo I promise it has far less to do with some random anime, and infinitely more to do with this cringe culture. Regardless all of the characters are poorly written, with Bakugo being unquestionably the worst. There are some aspects I really enjoy about this anime, and numerous I despise
@@raphaelrodgers7407 oh God you triggered me... I can write a book on this topic; the misrepresentation, and the concept of racism in the West, and actually consider it often. What is racism to you? Are you able to differentiate culture from race? Are stereotypes racist? What is your concept of culture? What do you know about the culture in Japan? Have you spent any time in a foreign culture? You are presumably a Westerner? Daily I'm told by Asians *"Toe-mas-san. I love the West, but I hate your cultures concept of racism, and despise this Western centric presupposition of the term, and how it's shoved down my throat!"* As a Westerner you have a strong inclination to associate culture to ethnicity; this is presumably becuase America is the only culture where the ethnic identity of our minorities, are attributed to a foreign regions. Culture is not race, so inherently cannot be racist. The necessary antecedent to racism is ethnicity... Is Midwest culture differ from NY? If I were to espouse *"NY culture is disgusting"* would you echo the ridiculous sentiments above? Of course not. You don't associate NY with an ethnicity, and only apply your flawed interpretation of the concept in the context of foreign cultures. Japan is the number 1 grape culture on the planet. 90% of women between 14 to 49 have been assaulted. On the subway there are yellow boxes women have to stand in, in attempts to deminish random groupings. Our cell phones shutter sound is exceedingly loud to prevent men from taking inappropriate pictures of young women. 90% of the hotels here are pay by the hour. Intercourse for money is legal, and identical to Uber Eats; you literally place an order and it comes to your door. The age of concent is 13. They equate smexy to cute 😉, and subsequently sexualize young persons. Father's bathe with their daughters until the leave for college; Google it. Here kids are treated like something to objectify smexually, and as a resource. *"Someday I'll be old and need someone to take care of me."* Children are not loved, or allowed to he children, they're treated like machines. After normal class; where you're trained to sit there in silence and memorize, not critically think, you then go to an evening class. There is no association between peers, or the opposite gender. It cultivates a society of emotionally stunted, inept, confused people, with girls whom the extent of their interaction with the opposite gender is showering with their dad until they were 19. Infidelity is culturally permitted, with women not perceiving it as cheating so long as it was paid for; but is generally with a colleague. This, compounded with a complete and utter ignorance on how to navigate your emotions, and desires, leads to some very unique, and very, very, very common smexual kinks. When I was single, most women I took home would try to act like a baby when we were intimate.... Japan is the most racist, bigoted, sexest, xenophobic, hedonistic culture on the planet. That, along with 10^¹²³ other reasons are why I, as well as every xpat here in Japan, perceives this culture as fn disgusting, and it has nothing to do with the ethnicity of the people. If those same people are raised in foreign cultures it is not a concern. Your intellect is presumably based on a western glamorization of Japan from media. I promise that the reality is those awkward, inexplicable character tropes that exist in Anime. That *"why do all Anime characters have the emotional maturity of a toddler?"* With that *"Why is there always a naive protagonist, aggressively pursued by a comically over developed, pree teen, female sibling"* is more realestic of the reality of this culture.. Ergo *"disgusting."* There are alot of great aspects about this culture and the people, but like everything there is a lot of bad.. This will blow your mind: This is a homogeneous culture; most are. In homogenous cultures where everyone is ethnically identical. In homogeneous cultures they segregate based on culture, not ethnicity. Daily I'll go to dinner with my wife, and even though we live in Shibuya, there are multiple restaurants in our area with signs saying *"We do not provide service to Chinese dogs!"* Imagine how that must make my Chinese wife feel, knowing she has avoid business in the wealthiest postal code in Japan, becuase they will throw her out? The eaziest way to segregate is via cultural connotations, ie stereotypes *"I am Japanese so I am expected to act like X. I am Chinese so I must do Y."* In America we're told this is racist, yet in Asia you're told to shut the f up, becuse stereotypes is how they identify with their culture, and it is the most important aspect of their identity. For clarification, if you were to ask my wife what she feels about Japanese women; as a Mainlander she'd say *"I despise all a Japanese women!"* As an American, with your flawed interpretation of the concept, you'd espouse she's *rAcIsT.* Meanwhile my wife would give you a blank stare and clarify *"I don't dislike Japanese women becuase they're women, nor becuse they are ethnically identical to myself. I despise Japanese women becuase of their culture."* In Japan it is culturally perceived by women that a husband allowing his wife to mistreatment is a display of love. So women will purposely degrade, humiliate, their spouses under this presupposition of *" Oh he let's me treat him so bad. No other man would put up with it, and he does, so this must mean he loves me."* So my wife would clarify she dislikes JP women for maybe becuse they're nasty, backstabbing or some random reason associated with the culture, while not being racist. This is really applicable in the concept of White Westerners. Americans are vastly different from Europeans. If a JP person were to proclaim they dislike Western gaijin (this is a slur for foreigner), would you claim their racist over the implicit belief they're referencing Whites? So why is it racist when I proclaim this culture is disgusting? Whats even crazier is the concept of *"What is Culture?"* In the West we correlate to the ethnic descriptors associated with the region; food, clothing, music, etc. Indeed that is culture, but it's vastly different from how Asians perceive culture. Those descriptors could be associated with *"China"* culture, in the context of China. *"Chinese culture"* is vastly different, and the way one's mind works. The logic they employ, and the way they perceive the world. My wife thinks and acts like a Chinese person, and always attributes it to her culture. This leads to the advent of *"High and Low context cultures."* Which is a completely separate book, but if you have any interest research the term. We are low context culture, they are high. Becuse of this Asians vs Westerns don't just seem like different ethnicities, we're almost like different species. My wife's mind works in a way that makes no gd sense to me, and mine hers. Yet unironically, if I bump into any random Black American here in Japan, whether he be from NY to Seattle, I will have orders of magnitude more in common with him, than I would with a random White European, or person raised here in Japan. This is how you separate culture from ethnicity, a very random, amalgamated explanation as to why it's fn dumb to correlate the two. Tbh even in America I think a correlation is only applicable towards certain ethnicities; but this is subjective. Asians here in Asia do not perceive American born Asians, as being real Asian *AND THEY'RE NOT!* American Chinese culture is its own, and they are very different from Mainlanders. So saying I'm *"mildly racist"* for espousing Japanese culture is disgusting is ignorant.
@@raphaelrodgers7407 Christ...... I think my comment was deleted that I just spent 10 mins writing. It's not just cringe it's fn disgusting. Equating race to culture is sheer ignorance, and doing so is a very Western centrist interpretation of the term. Explain to me how you can correlate culture to race, and then explain to me how it was racist. I bet you cannot, even in regards to homogeneous cultures like here in Asia.
I hate Bakugo in the first 3 seasons and I can tolerate him now I agree with your points it really bothered me when season 3 started class A stopped holding Bakugo accountable for his actions
I'm making another comment because I feel like there's something else that needs to be addressed. Bakugos apology. Ive said this a million times but all he did was made up excuses for his actions instead of taking accountability. He victimised himself despite deku clearly being at his worst. Bakugo even commented on his look but still made himself the victim and pointed the blame away from himself. Classic abuser behaviour
@@mrs.dazai_ he gave excuses and excuses. Didn’t admit what he did was wrong just made himself seem like the victim of all of this despite everything Deku went through not even considering his state right now
I feel like you guys didn't actually read the apology Bakugo isn't excusing his behavior he's explaining what was going through his mind because a very big question asked when someone's mean to you for no reason is "why?" He literally says it's a weakness and he goes on to talk about how much he's been failing because clearly he agrees what he did was wrong he reassures deku that he's here to step in when things get hard for him and then states that "saving people is how we win" basically confirming the ideology dekus had and the reason Bakugo bullied him is the right ideology but the most important part is the fact Bakugo says "I don't expect this to change a thing between us" meaning he didn't expect years worth of abuse was just gonna be fixed with a simple apology he gave a verbal apology but he still knows he hasn't fully atoned for the things he's done (even tho he risked his life for izuku which is a pretty big deal but whatever ig) he isn't making excuses for himself otherwise he wouldn't still feel like he has to atone what he's trying to do is convince izuku that "you helped me see the correct path now it's my turn to help you find your way back to that path" I don't think anyone who thinks endeavor is a well written character should think Bakugo is horribly written
Bakugou's fans: defends Bakugou by saying he is a assh*le because he had a rough childhood. Bakugou: Had a completely normal childhood and has absolutely no reason to be an assh*le.
Bakugou fans love him because he remind them their glory days in highschool. Try to search "Peak on Highschool" in TH-cam. This would explain why bakugou is so relatable to his fans
bakugo will never click with me. not in a million years. I will still stand by this statement bakugo is barely a rival cause a rivalry needs to be genuine and not one sided. I feel bakugo is a worse seto kaiba to me.
@@Cybertechwerewolf simply cause kaiba and bakugo have a lot of similarities but part of bakugos flaws are funny enough charms for kaiba which could be a fun topic to explore more on why when bakugo shared some traits with other rivals it fails.
The thing is not only kaiba absolutely overflowing with charisma He is also the "jerk ass with a heart" character done right Like sure, he's a rich asshole who antagonizes Yugi at every chance he gets But he also got rid of the military weapons of his company, actively gets rid of people who use his company to hurt people, throughout the series he has genuinely done wonders for the advancement of humanity And he very clearly cares for his little brother You can see his heart shining trough But most importantly, the other characters still treat him like an asshole, because that's what he is, Bakugo on the other than is a clear textbook bully, but he is somehow adored by kirishima and ashido who are supposed to hate bullies, despite the fact that he never changes
Honestly the ONLY I felt that I could forgive Bakugou was AFTER Shigaraki beat the crap out of him in the Final arc, like it was some catharsis for me.
I still genuinely don’t get how the narrative nearly constantly wants us to believe that Bakugo is “A genius who works harder than anyone cause he’s carrying a huge burden and is a misunderstood angel in disguise” every time someone talks about him, he’s a major jerk yet everyone acts like he’s this great guy, we literally have never seen him work hard at anything and is just good at anything off the bat, everyone bends over backwards to cater to him, he’s a pro hero’s favorite just because of his bloodlust attitude alone and the fact Aizawa never gets on him for anything but gets on every other student over anything. And the fact Midoriya and Kirishima hate bullies canonically but worship Bakugo somehow….. I don’t get it, I really don’t.
He does work hard at fighting. Sure as shit doesn't work hard at the heroic qualities. Seriously, he's a prime example of what's wrong with their hero society meanwhile people like deku get shafted and stomped on.
Bakugou has a contradicting narrative in the manga. He was shown as a hardworking, determine and strong hero, and was constantly praise . But he never got any heroic deeds to prove it . MHA heroes are judge by their accomplishment ( ie beating villains & saving lives) not by how strong they are. And the rivalry of MHA is different compared to other shounen mangas which is mostly beating each other to prove whose better. If we compare deku and bakugou heroic accomplishment, it's obvious that deku is a better hero and bakugou will never surpass him. In the manga, deku fought and won against stain, mascular, overhaul, gentle, lady nagant and several villains in the dark hero arc. He also saves kota, eri and several dozen people. Compare to bakugou who only beats the purse thief and the dictator villain, and save there people. If their accomplishment is known in MHA, deku will be praise as the next Almight while bakugou is just the hero of the week. Horikoshi seem to downplays deku accomplishment to avoid overshadows bakugou. A prime example is the huso arc where deku, iada & shoto beats stain. If it was made public, it makes them the big three of A class and overshadows bakugou winning the sport festival arc .
Bakugou is supposed to be a hero and I judge him by his heroic deeds. But alas, bakugou fought more of his fellow heroes while deku fought a lot of villains.
Endeavor was an adult who made up for his actions. It's season 6. Bakugo should freaking grow up already. Bullies aren't always bullies. He's 17 almost 18. I love endeavor and he's severely too hated.
@@Cybertechwerewolfpeople kinda just hate Endeavor cause of what he did to Todoroki mainly , a lot of people just simply love Shoto and kinda just hate Endeavor purely on the fact he abused Shoto, caused him trauma and never tried to connect him emotionally. But those people also ignore his development and what his trying to do inorder to make up for what his done to his family,like if Rei and Shoto ,which are the two he abused and caused pain and trauma the most but are willing to at least give him a chance to attone for his past actions and become a better person. Endeavor so far has the best character depth and growth ,he deserves far more credit than Bakugo for his growth and unlike Bakugo , Endeavor isn't still acting disrespectful and being angry for no reason all the time.
@@Cybertechwerewolf I mean unlike Endeavor,if Bakugo lost his anger issues,he wouldn't be as loved and his cockyness as well,it's what people mainly love about him ,it's always entertaining to people seeing him be angry when it's completely unnecessary for him to be and see him mock people and act like his always better than people. I don't like how Horikoshi is making Bakugo stay overconfident and cocky even after he came back to life after dying an hour ago in the manga for them . Like it doesn't make sense to me and it's making people actually think he can beat AFO and surpass Izuku and it's almost the end and Horikoshi always hinted on how Bakugo could possibly improve his attitude and personality,he did mainly show Bakugo could work well with others if he actually tries to which he does but that's about it,he isn't as disrespectful or rude but still is and hasn't massively changed.
@@IzukuKun-ow4rx Exactly, this is the point I tried to drive home in my video, that Horikoshi wants to have his cake and eat it too with Bakugo's character. He wants to have character development moments, but not actually change how Bakugo acts
I have NEVER liked Bakugou. His apology was half-assed and limp. If he truly meant what he said he would have whatever it took to earn Deku's respect including grovelling at his feet if need be.
@@CybertechwerewolfHe did actually. He tried to call Midoriya by his real name, but he told Bakugo he didn’t have to force himself to be nice to him. Maybe him calling Midoriya Deku is a force of habit, but it still makes him look bad if even Midoriya has to call him out.
When Endeavor started to evolve in terms of his chracter development. I saw a horrible man start to develope as not a great man but a man who refuses to let the word " Horrible and Abusive " be his final definition . He's a flawed character who is desperately is trying to become the best he can be before he dies , to turn around the word Endeavor from a bad person to greater hero than his past . Bakugo couldnt even tie Endeavor , Tenya , Lemillion or Red Riots shoes . He gets so much shine from the show it irritates me because other characters, especially in class 1A gets overlooked and underdeveloped in my opinion . Uravity , Ingenium , Tokoyami and more could be explored yet instead are shoved back to excuse and not right the character of Bakugo . It annoys me becauss he is a bully who just is toleratable and even favored in the series and fandom . He is worshiped for the same behaviour Stain had detested .
@Cybertechwerewolf Thanks, bro , but you nailed it . Your point was clear enough as is . If Mineta was better looking, then he and Kaminari would be fine . If Monoma from Class 1B was a good-looking as Bakugo, then he too would be fine yet since apparently they aren't to the Fandom then they get a different treatment as you said on the video . It is what it is , Great Vid 💪🏾.
Endeavor character development is the adult version of bakugou done right. I find his rivalry with almighty interesting and tragic. Despite being no. 2 for a long time and has the most crime case solve, endeavor unable to surpass almight since he never posses the magnetic charisma that made almight the no.1 hero. Bakugou status as a rival is pathetic since heroes are judge by their accomplishment not by how strong they are. if deku fights were made public in universe it easily destroys bakugou status as a rival. If bakugou want to prove he is better than deku, all he have to do is beat a lot of villains but alas it never happen. All we got is him beating his fellow heroes. .
@BoscoSal-ao very good point . I wish the series explored more as to the WHY Endeavor felt the need to be number 1 . What was number 2, never good enough . Sure, Allmight was a major goal, but I felt qierd if a random man was his only inspiration to turn into a monster as he did . Regardless his development as a character is incredible interesting and more inspiring than Bakugos weak apology . Bakugo's acts if heroism is more so the standard at which any other hero student would've done for one another , it doesn't make him special now it just makes him a loud student following some of the rules . Not that the series would reprimand him if he didn't.
I recently found out for a online news article that bakugo was DESIGNED to be a CRUEL BULLY. But during the story, horikoshi CHANGED HIS MIND and gave bakugo redemption. That means, bakugo becoming nice is a RECON. The way bakugo acts in the beginning of the story, is how he was going to act the ENTIRE STORY. Until horikoshi changed his mind. So people who HATED bakugo for the way he acted in the story's beginning are correct to hate him. That personality bakugo started with is his ORIGINAL personality. Meaning people who defend bakugo for his personality in the beginning of the story are relying on a RECON that horikoshi made to bakugo.
@@Cybertechwerewolf I know. What do you except when horikoshi has suddenly changed his mind? The recon doesn't work as well, because it was so sudden. It had NO TIME to build up or be thought out. Horikoshi just randomly decided to change bakugo and that's it. The recon was like this: "Remember bakugo being a bully? Well he isn't now." That's it.
A bit late to the party and everything you said is pretty much correct. I made a post on Tumblr a little bit ago about my own points on how Bakugo is a horribly written character, and so far all I've gotten is the toxic Bakugo stans replying in my comments. Guess that makes me right then, lol.
this is so true! i had blinders on at first over pity for him but the more and more i look at him i was right with my first opinion of him, h e was a douche character with a toxic mentality. Great video cyber! one of your best!
@@694magicman well it really doesn't have anything to do with likeability. People can like abrasive characters. That's fine. He's just horribly written as a character
I tried to like bakugo but nah dude I HATE him so much. This guy was a mistake in the first place. Idk why people likes him so much they always treat him like a god. Plus he is Annoying, have the Worst Origin Story, always making ugly faces, and he is also the reason why the Fandom is Crap. Especially those Idiotic bkdk people who treats there Toxic ship like a religion
Honestly Bakugou should be the kind of character I would ADORE! Cause I have always been a fan of the Sasuke- Lancer types but even after his Second fight with Deku and became “worthy rivals” he still pisses me off. Mostly from him BARELY getting any actual fights against Villains that aren’t in the movies, his constant yelling at Izuku and all his classmates, him throwing his accessory at Deku’s head causing him to Bleed which were supposed to find Funny. (This is Post rematch Deku but it’s still hard for me to like him as a character). Even his apology didn’t help me much on this. I’m just gonna admit Endeavor character arc is EVERYTHING that I wished Bakugou’s could’ve been like.
Well the second fight of bakugou and deku is where everything went wrong with bakugou. Sure the fight made bakugou more popular but it's cost him to be irrelevant to the plot. Bakugou has no major villain fights after that compare to deku who fought overhaul, gentle, mascular and other villains. I honestly though it's Horikoshi poor writing but I remember that bakugou suppose to be horikoshi PET. There I realize, if bakugou was really his Pet why he is not given any villain fights or a solo arc. My theory is bakugou is the EDITOR PET and Horikoshi PEST. If you wondering why the editor because the editor has the power to change mangaka storyline. Mangakas can't say no to what the editors says otherwise they may get screwed. Bakugou status as a rival was probably the editor idea and his irrelevance to the plot was probably horikoshi response. Also, I been reading the manga and I notice an interesting pattern, everytime bakugou accomplish something he either get sideline in the next arc or was fallowed by something better. When bakugou won the school sport but he got sidelined in the huso arc; he stops dark shadow rampage but deku beats mascular; he won his second match with deku but got sidelined in the next arc where deku beats overhaul; he showed his drummer skills in the school festival but deku beats gentle; he beats the B class team but deku awaken his second quiks; he saves shoto brother but shoto beats the villain and deku save a dozen people; he saves deku from shirigaki attack but got sidelined in the dark hero arc; he apologize to deku but it's ochako speech's that saves deku ; he fights shirigaki but got brutally beaten and was sidelined for 30+ chapter and more than a year in real time. He gives the final blow to all for one but alas it was fallowed by deku vs shirigaki where all for one somehow came back and took over shirigaki body. I seriously believe that bakugou deserves the title the Symbol of Pyrrhic Victory.
I wouldn't actually have much of a problem with Bakugo apology if he actually owned up and actually apologized for all the messed up stuff he did, but instead he trys to make it seem like he had a justify reason for bullying Izuku. I mean for peak sake he told him to jump off a building and hope he gets a quirk in the next life, like bruh.
I hate Bakugo and he never had a bad childhood he had a good childhood. It is confirmed. He is acting like being insecure is a way to justify bullying someone. For one imagine being bullied for 11 years just because your Bully thinks that you can surpass them. Like that is. It an excuse like you said he should know better and not to mention he told Izuku to literally kill himself! Like he could have jumped and the sad thing is that is one of the few reasons why people jump is because of others hurting them so Izuku could have killed himself .because of him! Last thing Bakugo’s apology sucks like it took way too long. One it took a war arc, him almost dying, Izuku leaving, and Izuku pretty much running himself to the ground. Another one is that his apology is so over rated like it is not that good he never even really changed. Like Bakugo still insults others including Izuku.that is why I hate Bakugo only a few reasons tho. Thank you for hearing my rant
I hate bakugo honestly think he should have stayed dead but mabye Horikoshi was to afraid because the crazy fans would be mad at him, from the first episode that i saw him i could not stand him in any way and people in the fandom are mentally ill to think that he got any development at all he will always be an awful character to me and almost NOTHING can change that.
Him suicide baiting was bad and i hope someone's finds out he did that to a qurikless kid. Oh and him after winning the games he saying that he'll kill everyone.The fact that he was kidnapped by villains to be turned into a villain. 😂his apology was all about him not how hes ruined deku life, his entire response to abuse. Whyd he create izuka to just torture him?
I'm all for redemption arcs but I honestly don't like Bakugo as a person or as a character. As a person, he is annoying, toxic, and his behavior of constantly insulting and yelling at people should not be treated as comedy as Horikoshi has done in recent arcs. As a character, he doesn't have much going for him beyond being petty to Deku. For all the shit Endeavor gets, he also changed in the way he treated people. He used to be a dick to everyone, including his family, and now he is a lot calmer and more respectful. Bakugo doesn't change his attitude, which is still his main issue. His fandom is also the definition of gaslighting people. Bakugo is not all that from a writing perspective. I'd argue the only character who was written really well and didn't have his arc screwed up was All Might. And even then, that resolution against AFO was awful.
I also agree I didn't want to talk about for a long time due to his bullying I didn't find his bullying excusable just because he got an ego boost from everyone around him especially due to how psychotic he was in one of the trainings in UA when he tried to kill Midoriya.
What always bothered me is that Class 1-A clearly had a promising cast of characters who I would have loved to see more of. Kirishima, Tsu, Ashido, Tokoyami, Sero, Kaminari, Jiro, ect. They're all likable and interesting. They seem like fun characters and promising heroes. But Bakugo's constant screaming and increasingly violent behavior took a large portion of the spotlight.
Fortunately, horikoshi did rectify this in the final arc which focus more on the side characters and left bakugou as a corpse for 36 chapters. Unfortunately, bakutard fans ignore it and keep praising bakugou beating afo as the best moment of the final arc.
@@BoscoSal-ao And that wasn’t even enough because he still gets the most spotlight once he’s revived and now is confirmed from the recent chapter leaks to have had fangirls since his sports festival days, all from being a jerk who does the bare minimum.
Personally, While I do have anger issues, And I may act in an enraged state, But I would definitely Never tell people to jump off of buildings like how Bakugo did to Deku. I would only insult people if people were to insult others. But still, I would never tell people to off themselves. I may have done some things in the past, But even Ik my limts, Bakugo does not. Although even if he does, He'd probably would rather just ignore it/them. I may relate to him on at least some extent, But that doesn't mean I like them, Let alone love him, Only somewhat tolerate him at best. Which I think the other characters do bc they probably rather take things more maturely, Or at least as mature as possible in comparison to some/certain things. Just a theoretical reason why they tolerate him. Meaning I do agree with your points. Also since Bakugo is a blond whom was "destined" to become a hero, Worshiped another during childhood, And whom was basically corrupt since thar childhood or something, And also treats people like their nothing and themselves like they're gods or something like that, That sort of reminded me of Homelander. But other than that, I still agree with your thoughts on Bakugo.
Tbh, while I don’t mind the character, I kind of agree with this video on some level. He’s a bad person. That being said, I don’t think his “redemption” arc is the worst in the series. That title goes to Endeavor for me.
@@Cybertechwerewolf I personally disagree. While I don’t think the execution of Bakugo’s arc is good, I at least think it works on a narrative level. Like, I can see what was being attempted even though I don’t think it works. But Endeavor’s arc doesn’t even feel like it was properly thought out. Half of the time I feel like Horikoshi might have been making up parts of it as he went along tbh.
@@Cybertechwerewolf I suppose. What I meant was that I can see the layout for Bakugo’s arc working if it was executed better. But I can’t really see Endeavor’s arc working unless it’s altered significantly. I could go into more detail there, but that might take a really long time lol
@@esmeraldadelatorre8676I thought him not being Likable was kinda the point of Early season Bakugou, his slow reformation into a better person season by season.
@@Cybertechwerewolf Yeah the best version of Bakugou is usually in fan fictions cause God knows the fans know how someone like Bakugou would be realistically treated.
@@toadlord8594 well the bakugo stans typically like to project their own fan fictions onto the real version because that's how they want him to be, but it's not how he is, but that's how fans treat him, it's very odd lol
Well the manga has reached it’s end (Ch. 430) a couple days ago and by the end (8 year Timeskip) his words are getting pissed at a reporter for getting too close to him and says” why you getting so close? You wanna Die?” Though he did help pay for Deku’s new Suit.
I suppose I could like Bakugo, if he actually developed as a character. Him apologizing is all well and good, but that doesn't excuse lazy writing. Like I said in the video, I feel like Horikoshi wanted Bakugo to develop without changing how he acts.
Bakugou is present to all epilogue chapters but he was not the focus of the story. Bakugou ends without any importance to the story. In the end, Bakugou is just an annoying side character with awful lot of screen time.
If you defend this character, it's probably because you've never lived with someone like that This type of person never understands why he's wrong, and only lives in peace if you act towards him in the same way He's the type of person who only abuses the weak and fears the strong
The manga is nearing its final chapters and wow ! Bakustan are making a wild claim about deku being sidelined in the final arc. Damm they are really desperately in denial about bakugou being sideline in the final arc . While bakugou land the final blow against AFO, it doesn't change the fact he got sidelined for more than half of the final arc.
2:44 That might have actually been more interesting, even if he was still an arrogant dick, showing his strenght by always fighting essentially 'the toughest guy on the block' rather than the literaly weakest person in the room, would be better.
One chapter before MHA officially ends. The epilogue chapters really fix several issues of series except for unfortunately, bakugou. Despite being present in all chapter, there is no bakugou focus chapter. his fans notices this that they what the last chapter to be about deku-bakugou chapter but the way the 429 end say differently. I think the last chapter would be a timeskip where A1 class are already become proheroes and we probably going to see the next hero ranking. I think bakugou will be the new no.1 hero of Japan while deku is probably somewhere in Africa saving lives.
The final chapter is leaked although not not translated, it confirm my theory that horikoshi never likes bakugou status as a rival that he made sure to make Bakugou irrelevant to the story. Ever since bakugou becomes deku rival he is somewhat sideline in the story like an annoying side character with a lot of screen time. Also I find horikoshi claim of not making a sequel questionable since the ending is somewhat ambiguous and deku dad never showed up.
Bakugō could've worked if instead of a half-assed 'redemption', he ruined his future Hero prospects with his violent behaviour. Subvert the 'asshole rival becomes a good guy' trope every man, woman and they/them has done since Vegeta.
That would’ve essentially made Bakugou turn into Sasuke of Part 2. Wait does he join the League in your idea, does he become some rogue vigilante or something? To contrast with Deku?
Bakugou would came back in MHA season 7 episode 20-21 after 9-10 episodes in life support. I just realized how bakugou has fewer screen time from MHA season 4-7. The last season give bakugou his worst screen time ever.
@@Cybertechwerewolf I agree, people really love bakugou despites his lack of important role to the story. The most annoying one is that they claim that bakugou was the most development character of MHA. Which is stupid since he never got any solo arc or the focus of the series. Also, I find bakugou being a rival pointless in the final chapter since deku spent 8 years as a teacher and never got any competition.
The series ambiguous ending really broke the fandoms. With some making fun on deku by making image of him working on McDonald's. Sirously, do they realize that MHA would likely have fallow up stories, like the light novels given on bleach and naruto. I just wait for a year or two for it to happen. Now for the next manga to read is SAKOMOTO DAYS
Well that's hardly interesting, just look at all the mha fanfics. Most of the time, he got arrested and left out of the story. There is lot of fanfics that focus more on deku being a villain than bakugou. Despite being the most popular character of mha, it's difficult to make a good story about bakugou.
1:22 Bakugo having a bad childhood is pure nonsense especially when you consider that there are scenes where Mitsuki is alright/decent. Not to mention Bakugo pretty much has everything handed to him: a powerful quirk, looks (he was considered an ikemen), wealth (I mean have you seen their house), friends and popularity. 2:11 humor is subjective (since people have different kinds of humor) and imo i don't even find it funny, I either get annoyed or just ignore it for the most part 3:27 I mean Bakugo and Endeavor share a lot in common: heat-based quirks, both want to surpass All Might by their own efforts, they have a rivalry with OFA users, they are prideful, dominant, ambitious, and have serious tempers, They were abusive (Endeavor to his family and Bakugo to Broccoli Man) 3:45 between Bakugo and Endeavor, Endeavor's redemption feels more believable in my opinion mostly because Endeavor faced serious consequences for his actions, Bakugo's redemption feels problematic because he tends to go back and forth (with one of his worst regressions being in season 5 as well as the lack of serious repercussions caused by his attitude) another key difference is why they become heroes Endeavor became a hero after witnessing his father try and save a little girl in a fire 3:50 "Bakugo is a child" Bruh try using that excuse on Mineta since he's younger than Bakugo 4:32 Bakugo's apology feels like a retcon especially when he says had all the advantages yet he still felt Deku was ahead of him like dude you have a quirk and Deku doesn't have one. (There is more but Im bad at conveying my thoughts as well as how to deliver it at times) 5:00 Considering what Genya has been through in his life it makes sense why he turns out as an a-hole 5:39 Not really some of them don't tolerate his behavior, the problem is that he gets a slap on the wrist most of the time by the people who have pointed out his attitude 6:00 Every fandom is toxic
I agree with you especially bakugou reason for hating and bullying deku. He hate him because he look down on himw. He bullies him because he is afraid that he is a better hero.
While I do believe Bakugo isn't irredeemable, his flaws should be handled much more seriously, instead of getting sidelined later in the show. I don't simply mean being called out, I mean how it affects his relationship with his classmates as a whole.
💯 percent agree on video, I totally understand and agree with you on Bakugo, actually different elements of character, just crazy similar to Marvel Comic’s the Punisher in anti-hero.
I'm reading the manga final arc and I really don't like how will it end. Like my previous comments, bakugou will going to have an unsatisfying ending. I believe the MHA will end with bakugou being the no. 1 hero of Japan while deku will be traveling around the world as a wondering hero. It may be weird but this can be interpreted as bakugou a famous star in Japan while deku is a famous star in the world.
@@Cybertechwerewolf I read the latest chapter and I think his final appearance will be at the epilogue. From the war arc to the final arc, I notice bakugou got sidelined four times straight, after accomplish something: His saving deku from shirigaki, his apology to deku, his fight with shirigaki and his final blow against afo. Bakugou lack of screentime is noticable worst in the final arc since it that time the editor resign. People will going to notice it and they will going to reevaluate bakugou character. Try to search Character Perception Evolution in Tv Tropes and you will find how problematic it is
@@Cybertechwerewolfwell the most obvious one, is that horikoshi never really likes bakugou status as a rival. I believe the author never intend to make bakugou the rival especially bakugou infamous suicide bait. Horikoshi probably intend to give bakugou a redemption arc but the auditor was against it. The auditor probably demanded bakugou to be the rival and Horikoshi can't say no. You should notice bakugou role went shit after he becomes the rival. I also learn that the auditor resigned in march 2022, in the start of the manga final arc. And several months later the chapter 362 happens. I believe bakugou irrelevance in the plot, especially his lack of villain fights is some KIND of REVENGE by horikoshi against his auditor.
@@Cybertechwerewolf the author giving bakugou a redemption arc is probably the best outcome for bakugou but alas it never happen. The deku vs bakugou second match suppose to be the end of their friendship, not to affirm their rivalry. You should notice that after the second match, deku never talks or interact with bakugou.
Unpopular Opinion: Kirishima and Bakugo shouldn't even be friends Kirishima in middle school stood up to bullies, the fact that he was concerned about Midoriya choosing his hero name as the name he was insulted with really should've raised some eyebrows since Kirishima has shown to be friendly to Bakugo before these, he should know that Deku was from him
Some of the problems I have with this douchebag is the fact many people implied that his mother was abusive which I disagree because - it should've been mentioned and shown in the manga not hinted at (he's supposed to be one of the main characters of the show) -He shouldn't be that harsh on Todoroki when it comes to discussing family problems during the sports festival (He's a hero in training at least learned some tact) which was made worse by the fact that Bakugo had eavesdropped on Deku and Todoroki's conversation which included his family issues - We see moments and flashbacks where his mother is a decent person. His relationship with Todoroki also makes zero sense. All Might once mentioned that Bakugo and Endeavor are similar, which annoys me because Todoroki should've also noticed the similarities. I may have mentioned this before but Bakugo shouldn't be that disrespectful towards Todoroki and his family problems. (If I was Todoroki I would've been disgusted at him and not let him use my flames). He also shouted at Fuyumi for discussing his family problems (I get that it's a sensitive topic, but shouting is a bad move and can cause people to lose respect). He also started being a little pr!ck towards Endeavor after Endeavor saved Natsuo from a villain (Realistically Shoto should've told him to stop since it involved his family)
I have just watch season 7 bakugou vs shirigaki fight and it's a glorious one sided defeat of bakugou. Bakugou is out for more than 10 episodes but alas his fans will still claims bakugou beating AFO. Bakugou stan really makes many excuses about bakugou lack of villains fight by saying he doesn't need to fight since his greatest enemy is himself. Damm they are illogical that they forgot that MHA is a shounen battle manga.
@@Cybertechwerewolf the problem with Bakugou fans is that they fails to understand that MHA is not a sport manga. It's makes since in the UA sport festival but as a hero not so much, especially in the next arc. In the husu arc, if the defeat of stain made public it easily made deku, shoto and iada famous and overshadows Bakugou winning the UA sport festival.
@@Cybertechwerewolf I'm been telling this to a lot of bakustan but alas they refuse to admit it and says Bakugou doesn't need to fight to prove it. Their reasoning drives me nuts. They completely ignored my reason that bakugou need a villains fight to prove that he is a badass hero.
I am bored, so i am here and yes, i am a bakugo fan. So let me put my bias perspective here. First of all let me clarify that i won't be excusing his behavior. Him being a jerk is basically why i like him. When i watch the show I don't want to be this saint ideal good person. What i want is entertainment and distraction from reality. There are several reasons why I think this character is well written. It's worth noting that to be a good character, you don't have to be a good person or have a complicated or sad backstory, as each character has a role to play. In the first season, and indeed throughout the entire show, his role was to be a foil to Izuku. I won’t go deep into this topic, but they have a lot of contrasts. He also distracts us from the main character's flaws with his obnoxious behavior, thereby making us feel more for Deku. However, I am a stale piece of bread and it didn’t affect me anyway. Bakugou is a very bright character. He is loud and has a distinct quirk that always catches your attention. Besides, explosions are pretty cool and fun (hello to all Minecraft fans). Plus I can relate to this character. And don’t say that you have never felt anger so strong that you wanted to throw it out and shout. Also, I’m sure everyone has at least once felt the desire to win some competition. Bakugou's desire to fulfill his dream is very strong, which is actually a positive quality despite his bad personality. I find this aspect of his character interesting because it is a trait that is truly inspiring and respectful, despite the fact that it would seem impossible to feel respect for such a bad person. Based on the above, we have a bright character whose character traits are actually quite realistic. I really enjoy watching him mature. His views and values change, gradually he becomes more aware of himself, BUT at the same time his basic essence does not change. He does NOT become a different person, but rather grows up. His explosiveness is his main essence; if you take that away, it will just be a different character. The author, in my opinion, managed to unobtrusively show how he has changed without losing his main highlights. Again, I don’t see the point in going deeper, but if someone doesn’t agree, I’m ready to discuss and explain my position in more detail. And yes, he is a much better hero than Deku, because Deku and Allmight most often rush into battle thoughtlessly. Yes, this is supposedly a good trait of the hero, but somewhat irrational. I’ll die but I’ll save you - this is their position and I find it stupid. In addition, this shows how much their personalities are not self-sufficient. They don't value their lives because they still consider themselves losers who put themselves below others. And this is another contrast between Deku and Bakugo that has been going on since the first season. As a conclusion, I would like to say that a well-made or poorly made character is all too subjective. Every man to his own taste. I will not judge you for having a different opinion and will be happy to discuss the topic of my favorite character. In the end, different points of view helps to look at the situation from different angles and see a more complete picture.
I am very glad you decided to be civil, unlike most toxic fans. I will say, you are correct that being a good person doesn't make you a well written character. Plenty of characters fit that mold like Negan from Walking Dead or DC comic Joker. And I agree, Bakugo had a purpose and a role to play in Deku's character development in the first few seasons. Where I will disagree, is that beyond like season 2 or 3, Bakugo's development as a character began to falter. I didn't like him as a character, but that wasn't what compelled me to make the video. What did it was how much he became pretty useless in later seasons in terms of his character. He never did much, and the only noteworthy thing he did in my opinion was saving Deku and apologizing during season 6. After that, even in the manga, he really never did much, and didn't fill the "rival" role he was set up to be.
MHA chapter 431 is release. The ochako deku ship lives and shows the class hero ranking. Deku continues to be a hero but he enjoys being a teacher that he treat his hero work as a part time job. Which is a good since villains a getting fewer that the heroes have a difficult time finding one. As for bakugou, he kinda got sidelined as deku seemed to have no interest in their rivalry. bakugou ranking went from 4th to 15th, his fans may accept it but for me it's not good since the chapters states that villains decrease every year and heroes may be out of jobs.
I watch the 2nd match of bakugou vs shirigaki while it's better than the first, it's still pointless as bakugou never beats or weaken shirigaki. The sad and tragic scene is cleverly design to make sure his fans feel sad, not to piss them off . Judging from what I read in the manga, horikoshi really made bakugou irrelevant to the end.
The series ending left Bakugou irrelevant. Bakugou status as deku rival is pointless and he never actually beat afo since Afo actually highjacks shirigaki body hence its deku who actually beats afo. Bakugou is nothing more than a glorified mascot whom you see alot in the series but has no role or irrelevance to the series.😮
Time for some Bakugo slander/Bashing Bakugo: blames himself for All Might's retirement Also Bakugo: proceeds to insult All Might's mentor and the other OFA predecessors and make fun of her quirk Bakugo: apologizes to Deku Also Bakugo: wants to assault Aoyama even after finding out why he became a villain he doesn't even care at all
The problem with bakugou in my opinion is irrelevance. Right after beating deku in their second match and becoming deku rival, I notice that his role went downhill. He never got any major villian fights or a solo arc. I feel like the author never intend to make bakugou the rival but was force to, i think bakugo was the EDITOR PET. Horikosho probably want to gave bakugoa a redemption arc but was screwed by his editor. My theory is that the editor suggest the idea of bakugou being the rival
Agree, after becoming deku rival bakugou role was sidelined. I think this is horikoshi response to his editor meddling. I believe the editor also suggest bakugou inheriting one for all which piss off horikoshi .
@@Cybertechwerewolf well the ending of the movie hero rising is what the manga suppose to end. My theory is the editor wants bakugou to inherit ofa but horikoshi refuse. Horikoshi claims in the movie was his way of saving face to the editor. In the manga final arc, horikoshi ruthlessly destroys bakutards theories about bakugou being the second user or being the tent user.
Now that I was reminded of this video and re-watched it, I'd like to come back and express something that had rubbed me the wrong way the whole time but I hadn't been able to put a finger on it when I'd first watched it. ^^ I think what made me raise my eyebrows was the way you talk about "the fandom" and their supposed pressure on Horikoshi when it comes to Bakugou. MHA is a story written by a Japanese person in Japanese, first and foremost about Japanese society, first and foremost for Japanese readers (or at least for readers who are very familiar with the Japanese language and customs). The themes and message of it of course can be enjoyed and analyzed by anyone but I think looking at it through a Western lense will always make things a bit distorted, especially if you're not approaching the material with an open and understanding mindset.
I don't mean this in an offensive way and please correct me if I'm wrong but to me your whole argument sounds like you're coming from a Western-centric angle with expectations that this piece of media will cater to YOU as an audience, and when you feel like it does not, then it must be because of "bad writing". To my knowledge Japanese readers in general were blown away by the apology scene in the manga and were more than satisfied with Bakugou's character arc, praising Horikoshi for his writing. It were mainly the Japanese fans who voted Bakugou 1st for every single official popularity contest. It's the Japanese audience whose opinions Horikoshi cares about the most, because it's the main target audience as most likely it's the ones possessing all the proper tools to understand the story wholly. And if those, who this piece of media is primarily intended for, love Bakugou this much then maybe... there's a good reason for it other than his looks? :D
For example the anime already changes up some things compared to the written form, it loses some great nuances but the apology scene itself still remains powerful. But then translation blurs the picture even further, more and more nuances get lost eventually. Assuming that one is probably 1) looking at the story with a Western mindset unquestioningly and 2) watching the show only and perhaps with English dub, I can understand why it would seem like e.g. the apology scene was Not It. However, I think those who find Horikoshi's writing and Bakugou's character development fascinating and well-executed shouldn't get brushed off as people who only care about looks, either. From a Japanese perspective, with keeping the Japanese societal contexts in mind, he is apparently a brilliantly portrayed character and the way others act around him is understandable.
Please take a moment to consider these thoughts: maybe he's got a redemption arc, just not the way you wanted. Maybe he's changed, just not the way you expected him to. His journey maybe spanned out differently than you wished, the message of his character arc was maybe not what you hoped for but it doesn't necessarily mean the message was wrong or that there was no message at all. Maybe he wasn't written in a way you wanted and maybe he didn't behave the way you wanted but this doesn't necessarily mean his writing or his character was bad.
Like, maybe Bakugou is such a fantastic character specifically because he was such an asshole at the start, completely at fault, and that is what makes his arc so compelling when he owns up to his mistakes. His redemption is so great because it doesn’t rely on garnering sympathy by giving him a Tragic Past, or by trying to blame his behaviour on someone/something else. There are some hints here and there, sure, but he is still fully at fault for his own behaviour and he acknowledges it, takes responsibility for it. The message of his journey is that redemption is not something you achieve by making people feel sorry for you or by some horribly painful "punishment" serving "justice"; it’s something you have to earn by actively working to change and do better. Forgoing the “misunderstood/tragic past” route, Horikoshi is making a statement that anyone can go down the wrong path, but that more importantly, anyone can also choose at any time to turn away from said path. There is only one requirement for doing so, and that is realizing that you’ve done wrong, and deciding that you want to change. Endeavour used to abuse his family and later tried to make things right. Gajeel used to do bad things like beating up Levy & Co., and later tried to make things right. Bakugou used to be an asshole to others, especially Izuku, and later tried to make things right. I see no difference; all three realized their wrongdoings and decided to change, which is wonderful. :)
I plan to make a whole video, stating how I feel about the series as a whole, so I'll be sure to go more in depth there, but as an abridged version, I'll say, I was looking at it not by a western lense, because I am aware it is Japanese first, that's obvious lol. But for me both are important. I think it's important to look at both, because Bakugo is ranked 3rd most popular in Japan. Many people in the comments bring up that I think he's a mean character and that's the sole reason I hate him, which is wrong. I don't feel he's handled well in MHA. I like abrasive characters if done well, like I stated in the video, because I like characters like Gajeel from Fairy Tail. I understand there are scenes that are good for Bakugo, but that's about it. He doesn't change his behavior at all. My 2 major issues are 1) I find his behavior annoying and heavily overused (that's more of a personal gripe granted), and 2) he's just poorly handled. He barely shows up in the final arc (despite Horikoshi pushing him to be as important as he was supposed to be) and he didn't fit the mold as rival and people think he did, because he is barely around. Again, I'll concede he has good moments, but those moments are squandered when you don't utilize it correctly. I'll be sure to be more in depth with it in my video, as I'm writing this being busy writing scripts for more videos lol, so I am not articulating as much as I'd like, and I cannot pull specific examples right now, but I'll be sure to do it on my MHA retrospective video coming soon in the next month or 2.
I mean I don’t get what people want from Bakugou to have a more satisfying growth from Bully to genuine hero. Isn’t the point of characters like Bakugou to start out the worst but then slowly by Season 3, the third season where the Jerkass character has their realization is when they becoming respectable? I mean Bakugou at least suppose to resemble the kind of character growth Zuko went through so in terms of development should’ve rivaled or even surpass Zuko’s character growth in a way. Cause he was an actual bad person that slowly grew into someone better, so what are the steps missing to make it much better?
@toadlord8594 I think you misrepresented Zuko's growth. Zuko and Bakugo have very different arcs. Zuko was not an evil or even bad person. Zuko never did anything particularly evil in the series. Sure he tried to capture the Avatar, as he was an abuse victim who mistakenly believes that's his ticket home, but he never did anything evil in order to achieve that goal. The worst he ever did was betray Iroh, but again, the whole point of Zuko was to show the difference between him and every other Fire Nation soldier. Zuko had honor and no one else did. Bakugo is very different, the whole point of his growth, at least according to Horikoshi, was to redeem himself from childhood bully, to worthy rival, and we didn't get that from him. Bakugo barely changed as a character, and doesn't really fit as a rival either. He barely appears in the final arc for any meaningful character arc, and the most he did was finally showing moments of actual heroism toward the end of the series, but it came out of nowhere and felt forced instead of natural
@@Cybertechwerewolf You’re right I should’ve used Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z as a better example. How about you compare and contrast how Vegeta did his redemption arc/journey better than Bakugou
@toadlord8594 I never watched DB, but from what I've been told, the arc is better, but I'm not sure. I'm not saying you need much to redeem a bully. But that goes to show how Bakugo was handled poorly. Hell, he's not the only character in MHA who is handled poorly. 90% of the female characters have no arc at all or are just sidelined, Bakugo is just one of the worst offenders
@@Cybertechwerewolf Personally I’d say Deku also has character issues as he obviously feels Goku levels of forgiveness and how he unrealistically doesn’t hold a grudge against him. I mean I don’t think he can’t forgive Bakugou so easily but I guess the way it’s handled in series feels almost unrealistic
@@toadlord8594 Oh I 100% agree with you on that. There are just so many things with Deku that are handled poorly in MHA. But I can't hate the kid, cause he's still a bean, but I can definitely recognize his poor writing too, even if it's less agregious
I used to like him but not anymore like the writers really did fuck up his character like come on you can have character development but although it has to be right if the character just going to make up excuses because of their shitty actions and not just going admit that you are in the wrong that's not good writing and i hate the ship of bkdk aka bakugo x deku like it's not in the character and two it's toxic I'm still going to listen bakugo kamil song but i still won't like the character awesome video by the way
I read the latest chapter, I think only 1 or 2 chapter left before MHA officially ends. Bakugou appears! Just to propel deku to afo. Which is disappointing, I would be more happy if bakugou and deku beats afo together but alas it never happen. Bakugou performance as a hero really sucks. Once the manga ends, people will re-read the manga or the anime and they will notice the problem with bakugou. I don't hate bakugou but I really don't like his status as a rival. Rivalry doesn't work well in MHA setting since heroes are judge by their accomplishment( ie beating heroes & saving lives) and a lot of bakugou haters point out his lack of villain fights. MHA will probably end in three ways; first is deku becoming the no.1 hero and bakugou the no.2 hero which is awkward in many ways. Second is deku becomes the Symbol of hope and bakugou becomes the no.1 hero which is worst. The Third theory is my favorite, bakugou is the no.1 hero while deku is wandering around the world.
The final chapter officially confirm that one for all quirk is gone which means deku is quirkless again. Fortunately, almight gives deku a lot of support item which allow deku to be a hero but with limited role. I don't know why horikoshi decide to make deku lost his quirk aside from making deku go back to its original version of being a quirkless hero.
*Spoiler warning just in case* But yeah, I genuinely don’t like the ending no matter how many people are trying to justify it, I definitely see some points, but all in all, it’s extremely bittersweet in my opinion, and the fact everyone but Midoriya got a statue to honor them, and despite all that he’s done, Midoriya is just a quirkless teacher who has to be sidelined for 8 years and watching his friends be heroes and live his dream without him, and Bakugo didn’t change in the slightest despite going to rehab, what even is my hero anymore, I’m glad he inspired people but man I was really hoping for closure, but I guess it’s ok cause he’s Iron Man now, but there are so many things untouched and unanswered, oh well, not even gonna bother finishing the anime. I’m being melodramatic I know, but man that ending made me want my years of reading my hero back lol
@@superherochestsymbol1032 the ending is somewhat ambiguous, I think horikoshi probably plans to do a sequel after a long vacation. There are five plot holes that horikoshi fails to fix: 1. The origins of quirks 2. The quirk singularity doomsday that Dr. Garaki warned us about. 3. What happen to Dr. Garaki since he escape in the final arc. 4. Also what happen to the villain whom shirigaki shove star & stripe quirk? 5. And above all, deku dad never showed up.
@@superherochestsymbol1032 I also find bakugou status as deku rival pointless in the end. The biggest reason why bakugou is relevant to the story is his bullying deku and being deku rival. The ending made bakugou relevant only because of his bullying.
Lol okay I'm familiar with your game now :'D Please kindly help a confused soul out, though! I watched the whole video but still can't really understand what you mean by him being a 'horribly written' character? Could you please elaborate on why you think he's badly written? You praised the writing of Endeavour's character or Gajeel's... and yet somehow Bakugou's is not It in your opinion? How so? :0 Everything you praised Endeavour for in the video stands for Bakugou as well, does it not? Happy new years! :)
Lol no not even a little. See the major difference between Bakugo and Endeavor is Bakugo never changes his behavior ever. He still see's others as beneath him, he is still aggressive towards everyone, and still gets angry at Deku for everything. I definitely explained this in my video but it feels as though the creator wants to give Bakugo moments of character development without actually changing how Bakugo acts because his western fans love it too much and would riot if his behavior changed. Endeavor acknowledges his past and is actively working to repent for them while Bakugo is in the same headspace he was when it came to his behavior since day one. No one beside Aizawa and All Might acknowledges that Bakugo's bahavior is unacceptable but the story has done nothing to actually do anything about it. How's that? Is that elaborate enough or does your brain not comprehend opinions that aren't in your own safe space?
@@Cybertechwerewolf you deleted my longer comment two times already so I don't really hope you'll let this one stay but i'll try anyway ^^ I didn't and don't mean to be disrespectful to you in my comment(s), I asked a genuine question out of genuine curiosity because I felt like everything you said in your video about Endeavour applies to Bakugou as well. Thank you for taking the time to reply. In another comment below this I'm going to write out my opinion about the points in your reply, feel free to disagree or delete it again, obviously ^^
@@peugeotffy I haven't deleted any comments, so idk what your spouting. I have many people in the comments who disagree with me and I respond to them like I did here but alright. In fact since you're gonna lie, I'm just gonna ignore your comment. But feel free to reply more, cause it just helps the TH-cam algorithm. However, I will point out, this video must live rent free in your head if you keep coming back to comment
@@Cybertechwerewolf alright, then I apologize for accusing you, I just honestly don't understand what's going on. :0 Once again my comment disappeared after successfully posting it, so I thought I made an assumption, but turns out it's probably a TH-cam error? I'm sorry for falsely accusing you of deleting my comments, then! I don't know why all my comments except the previous one evaporate, I'm gonna try to paste a small section of it below and see what happens.
@@peugeotffy Hmmmm yeah I don't delete hate comments or any comments who disagree with me cause hate or not, it helps promote my video, so maybe it's TH-cam auto modding your comment, cause TH-cam sucks like that
What most fans like about bakugo is his desirable traits: a very talented guy, constantly praise by others and freely speak his mind without consequences. These traits is also what most japanese like about bakugo but unfortunately this is discourage by their society.
@@BoscoSal-ao I like his comedy His character development Never giving up and always trying to be the best like naruto Yes he is still angry and screaming , thats his personality
I feel like your mistaking likable with well written. Bakugou isn't likeable (at least at first) but he is well written. Him not being likable is an intentional character flaw not an issue in writing. And if you were to give Bakugou a tragic backstory it would make him more sympathetic and thus more likable. Witch completely gose against what the character was ment to be at the beginning of the story. And while it might seem like everyone in the fanbase loves him despite being intentionally written to be unlikeable the truth is most mha fans hated him for a long time and only started to like him after the second deku vs bakugou fight in s3 after we got more insight on his character. I would recommend Oceaniz video on bakugou if you want a better understanding of his character.
No, I'm not mistakening that at all, lol. In the video, I clearly state that it's both. He's not likable, nor is he well written. I can stand an abrasive character if he has a good redemption arc. It's shown very clearly that Bakugo has a superiority complex, which led to him bullying Deku. But any moment Bakugo gets of trying to redeem his character is squandered next time we see him, cause he simply acts the same no matter what. The reason I don't like him, but like other redeemed characters like Endeavor or Gajeel (from Fairy Tail) is they had a very clear character arc that felt natural to their character. Bakugo did not have this arc. Even his apology was weak and empty, cause he still made it about himself, and he still doesn't change how he acts. This is poor writing on Horikoshi's part as he definitely wants Bakugo to still act the same, yet still have an arc. That's not how character arcs work at all
@Cybertechwerewolf HUH!?!? he goes from telling Deku to off himself to respecting Deku as his rival to helping Deku master ofa despite it not helping him in any way to sacrificing himself for Deku to apologising to Deku and admitting that he was inferior to Deku all along. Just because his core personality hasn't changed doesn't mean he hasn't changed. Especially because his anger is most played for laughs now. And sorry to break it to you but a ton of character arcs are written like this. Zuko from atla and Vegita from dbz (which a lot of people say are two of the best character arcs of all time) are still mean and angry most of the time even after their redemption. Again just because their core personality hasn't changed that much doesn't mean they haven't changed. You don't have to like Bakugou (I personally like him now but it took me a long time to come around to him and he still isn't even in my top 5 favourites from mha) but he definitely isn't badly written.
@@mr-.- I really doubt Bakugo actually respects Deku, but his apology is objectively terrible. First he tried to justify his behavior, and secondly, he didn't even apologize for what the actual problem was. He said that rejected him and tried to beat him down, which is not true. He beat him up when he couldn't fight back, destroyed his property, and crippled his self worth. It gives off the impression he hasn't truly realized the severity of his actions as he puts them in a very mild light. The biggest problem with Bakugou's apology is that it focuses too much on himself and not his victim. It just doesn't actually put to light what the actual problem with Bakugo was. And this is entirely on the writing. Also no, Zuko changed fundamentally from how he acted from season 1 during his redemption. After the team forgave him, he changed tremendously on how he acted. He was less angry and prideful. Bakugo still acts as though everyone else is beneath him. I wouldn't even care about his anger used for laughs, despite it being annoying and not funny imo, but that's not even what my complaint is about. It's about the lack of change. The sacrifice thing is, again, and attempt from Horikoshi to redeem Bakugo, and it fails, when the follow up is a half hearted apology.
@Cybertechwerewolf there's a difference between justifying and explaining. The definition of justifying is show or prove to be right or resalable. Bakugou doesn't do that at all in his apology. He never says that what he did wasn't that bad or something like that he never justified anything he did. He just explained it. He just gave deku a reason as to why he bullied him which he admits doesn't mean much but its how he really feels and he wants to tell him anyway. Also he did apologise for what the actual problem was the problem was that he bullied deku and he apologised for that. I don't really know what you mean by he said that rejected him and tried to beat him down which is not true. Bakugou didn't say that in any version of his apology so I don't know where you got that from or what you mean by it. He also never puts his actions in a mild light at all. While yes he doesn't list of one by one everything wrong he did to deku and apologise for them individually I don't really see the point in him doing that since both deku and the audience already know all that stuff and he apologises for all of it all at once at the end. Also almost nothing is objective in writing and bakugou has respected deku ever since s3 and dose so even more in the manga. While zuko did massively change after his redemption he's still mostly grumpy and yells from time to time. Obviously not as much as bakugou but while he obviously changed alot his personality isn't completely different from earlier on in the series he's a lot less angry but in certain book 1 scenes he acts pretty similar to book 3. Vegeta on the other hand is still a pretty accurate comperason which you didn't mention at all in your response.
@@mr-.-even after the “apology” he still came off as a dick to deku. He doesnt even try to heal their friendship as if they even friends in the beginning I dont think a real bullied person whole see the apology as wholesome. My problem with the apology is that it wasnt emotional enough For me i wanted deku and bakugo to hug it out thoughout the series
i disagree because just bc bakugo was cocky about being a hero in some of the episodes but that don't mean he haven't changed in the other episodes like he changed to a good reason because he know that family and friend came first than hero work.
@solynberry2411 Yeah, okay, but you don't know that he's soft on the inside either, do you? So we have to take how he acts at face value because that's all we're given. We aren't given a softer side at all. All he's ever done is act like an ass. This is that classic "I can fix him" mentality
@@Cybertechwerewolf bro he literally showed his classmates support when they feel like they going to give up especially Kirishima or denki and like when they try to get Deku back into au like Bach ago, was on this rampage about like talking about not giving up and coming back to au and stuff⭕️
@@solynberry2411 again there is a big difference between what you say and what you do. Actions speak louder than words. Regardless of what he says to people, he still 1, bullied a lot even into his UA days, and 2 acts high and mighty above all his classmates
I think Bakugo is great! Yeah he might be a bit aggressive and rude but I love his small character development from a mean bully to a sort of toned down version of that bully and more empathetic. Even though he doesn’t show his kindness and is often rude, he still puts others before him and protects his friends like protecting Kyoka Jiro from one of Class B’s attacks during training. He’s also very hilarious and funny with his madness like when he *SPOILERS* and Todoroki were being interviewed after they got their provisional licenses and Bakugo was just being rude all the time with his answers and then he was cut out of the video or when he was trying to win the the kids’ hearts in Season 4 🤣. He also wants people to put more effort. Now I know he might over exaggerate like during the Sports Festival and he was angry because he won, he was angry because he wanted it to feel special and not like an easy win. He wants his opponents to give him a challenge and put all their strength. Of course, he’s still the jerk and rude person he is to basically everyone, especially Izuku/ Deku but I think he’s well written and he’s the most comedic
You know series long character arcs are a thing, right? No? Okay. So is character development when a character completely abandons their core traits? Whether Bakugo was an asshole or not, interacting with the world through aggression & brashness is just how he is. This is proven in MHA's fantasy AU where Deku & Bakugo had a better & healthy history (no bullying) but they're core traits that we recognise them for, are still there. Bakugo's approach to his goals are what you should be looking at. That's where the progression is. Just like any character. Shoto is still stoic, Endeavor is still stern & brooding, Deku is still a crybaby, etc. All these characters kept their core traits, but only Bakugo's core traits are seen as regression. And I have to question if you actually were giving Bakugo any thought. But considering that you admitted that you don't bother when he's on screen kinda answers that question for me. From the onset, Horikoshi established Bakugo as an unlikeable character that he wanted to grow into his own brand of heroism. But I guess, that's asking too much for some. And btw, what has Endeavor actually done for his family besides throwing money at his problems. Endeavor doesn't start taking responsibility until the very final arc & even then his family had step in (again) to keep him from abandoning his responsibilities. Meanwhile Bakugo keeps himself responsible & did so in his mid-teens. He didn't wait until his 40's to sort out his issues.
@1999bazz I would agree with you on the series long character arc... assuming Bakugo had an Arc to begin with. First off, Bakugos core trait being aggressive is fine, it's where he points his aggression, which almost every time, that aggression is towards the wrong people, and even Eraserhead points out that this behavior towards his peers is unacceptable. It's the fact this never goes away. I used characters like Gajeel as an example cause despite Gajeel and Natsu still bumping head from time to time, he did change his behaviors towards his peers, which Bakugo did not. Sure he apologizes to Deku, but this doesn't stop him from still putting his peers down, and refusing to be nice to the people who deserve it. It's perspective, which clearly something you do not have. Also I never said I "don't bother" when Bakugo is on screen, idk where the fuck that came from. I said I hate seeing him on screen cause it's the same shit every time we see him, and it gets old. Aldo, when the fuck did Endeavor throw money at his problems. You see (at least for intelligent people they should see) that Endeavor started seeing the weight of his sins after Bakugo and Shoto gained their provisional licenses, and he started trying to make up for what he did. Not once did it ever involve money, dolt. Also, when the fuck did he ever take responsibility for his actions (beside his "apology" to Deku)? Dude didn't even see any consequences for his actions, which Endeavor got in spades. Endeavor is far better written than Bakugo. Bakugo stan retards are the ones thinking Bakugo is even a little bit of a good character. I can only assume this conversation will go nowhere as it always does for Bukustans, so I won't even bother responding after this. Have a nice day 😁
What makes bakugou disappointing is he fails to live up his hype as a hero and as a rival. Bakugou has only one major villain fights and his rivalry with deku is pointless.
@@Cybertechwerewolf Fair, but i feel like despite not liking his personality specially in the earlier seasons and how he treats everyone, his development and how he starts treating others better, specially Deku, and how he notices he’s not better than Deku or other people when he finally says “can i still catch up to you izuku” instead of saying he was stronger than him
@@felipekane9611 Well it took entirely too long to get there, and I doubt his personality will change much even after that. Cause for as much as the author wants to give Bakugo development, he really doesn't want him to act any differently
@@Cybertechwerewolf Well, im glad it took a few season so he could apologize, the build up was honestly good, seeing him act differently every season was honestly really cool after his apology, i feel like Bakugo’s personality won’t change, but the way he treats others definitely will, he will definitely have a major role in the vestige world with Deku in the manga, would be great to see how he gets after the war ends
@@felipekane9611 He acts the same every arc. He yells, insults, and belittles others. It's just now people don't call him out on his bullshit. If people acted that way in real life, no one would talk to him.
@KingNerdius I know you're here just to troll, but I live for bullying trolls 🤣 opinions are literally meant to not be taken as fact, because they cannot be wrong because opinions also cannot be right, because it's a personal feeling. Do they not teach this shit in school anymore? 🤣
Boy this video got a lot of traction over the weekend. I wonder why that is? *sarcasm* XD
It's probably because the series ambiguous ending. Like the ochako deku ship that was left unanswered and deku being a teacher for five years. A lot of people really expect for deku to be the next no.1 hero.
Frankly speaking I'm bit of disappointed by it but judging horikoshi poor health, I think he rush it for health reason. I don't hate it since horikoshi really need a long vacation.
@@BoscoSal-ao I have 2 videos planned for other stuff next, but when those are done, I have a video planned for this series as a whole
The thing that has now pissed me off the most about Bakugo is his shallow apology. Never mind the fact that moments before the apology, he was mocking and belittling Izuku like always (who was at his lowest and exhausted), calling him an 'All Might wannabe' and it coming this late into the series, his apology felt like manipulation. He only focused on himself, making excuses for why he bullied Izuku but never once addressing how much he wronged Izuku.
His aplogy glosses over just how much Bakugo's torment over the years affected Izuku on an emotional, physical, mental and psychological level and how it was the main facotor on Izuku's low self-worth and self-esteem issues he is still suffering from.
Exactly. And everyone is like "oh but he apologized" yeah but it's kind of a weak apology and it came so late in the series, AND it still doesn't change how he acts towards people
i dont understand why EXIST people who ship bakugo and deku omg
This is what I mean. Empathy isn’t real. And if you pretend to show it, you’ll be hated more than the so-called 'villains'.
We should all treat each other like shit and act proud for it. I’m personally writing four characters like season one Bakugo, and I’m going to keep them that way.
Also, I hate how Bakugou deflects responsibility for Deku's self-sacrificing tendencies by saying it was All Might's fault. Sure, All Might gets some of the blame, but the majority of it falls on Bakugou. Deku only treats his own safety and well-being as meaningless because he was told and treated as worthless for nearly his whole life by the person he considered his best friend.
But sure, Bakugou. You calling Midoriya a name that literally means "worthless" plays no part in Midoriya treating himself as if he is worthless.
@@VidiaReePhoenix EXACTLY. And true, All Might does play a part in the blame but 99% of it was on Bakugo. He actively made Izuku feel worthless about himself for years (seeing him as a pebble on the road and the very name Deku which means 'worthless').
Ir shocks me how Bakugo didn't get expelled after literal attempted murder towards Izuku.
Bro I'm saying
If not expelled, at least suspended or disqualified from the training
THANK YOU!!
The same Bakugo that got fangirls despite being out 98% of the war and a statue to honor him and Midoriya despite all he’s done started a gofundme and is grading papers.
Even in middle school, he got a slap on the wrist
Again, why do people ship these two? 💀🙏
It's sad how much they tolerate this kind of behavior because I've seen the impact a bully does on the lives of people they bullied. If people say it's not that big of a deal because Deku grew up fine, not everyone is as strong-willed as Deku, and seeing this being tolerated might trigger the experience they had.
Very true
True, I actually have more of a problem with Deku character than Bakugo, It’s a victim and abuser relationship you would think with Deku being bullied all his life and have to constantly be around his abuser would put a deeper affect on him BUT nope, he the prefect nice and care guy who also super strong cause he the main character!
right now the story didn't turn out that way where izuku jumps off the building/ ends up becoming a villain. Right now bakugou has realized his mistakes and is trying to do what's right . That's what matters
@@mrs.dazai_Yet it feels very unsatisfying because bakuago didn't earn it. He didnt earn the ability call himself "redeemed" he hardly suffered any long term consequences to his behavior. Got to go to the top hero school and even after he apologizes. He still shouts and gets mad at eveyone and especially deku for the littlest reason.
Hes still a bully that had no reason to torment deku but did it anyways.
Exactly.And Japan has a really bad suicide rate for people that are bullied in schools .So I just feel like Horikoshi just saying hey this is fine cause deku didn't kill himself just disgusting.
The sad thing with Kirishima is that he’s just basically Deku punching bag, 2.0. to with the benefit of him being immune to the physical abuse, and too much of a naïve person to understand the psychological beating his receiving just putting it all down to dude bro banter
Very true
I wish kirishima found out about him being a bully he hates bullys, that he finds out he told a qurikless kid to kill himself id love to see karma just a lil
@@KillerGothChick Yet some people say Bakugo sincerely apologized while doing it in the vaguest way possible that the class assumed he was just still mad about the fitness test.
@@KillerGothChick Kirishima did find out about Bakugo being a bully in the first school brief books, one of Midoriya’s middle school bullies confirmed they felt bad bullying Midoriya cause he was awesome at UA’s s school sports festival, and they revealed Bakugo bullied him too, but instead of getting mad or anything the writer just makes Kirishima simply say “well, Bakugo is just a passionate guy!”
he really is... just the worst...
I agree lol
It'd wrong i want him to suffer like his mum killed infront of him sorta trauma or him losing his powers forced to be called quirkess 😂 only character I've hated so much 😂
I also find it hilarious that Shoto was raised isolated from people and with an abusive father in a broken home and is still less of a dick to people than Bakugo, who by all accounts grew up in a normal household with parents who seem to be well-off too (no, that gag of Bakugo's mom hitting him doesn't mean he's been abused because that's normal anime humor we have seen in countless series).
Yeah the idea that he's abused is just a head Canon by Bakugo fans to make his actions excusable
@@Cybertechwerewolfyeah they always use that excuse whenever someone points out his shitty behavior
I find it hilarious how easily the Bakugo stans will take Bakugo being slapped upside the head as super serious and as evidence of abuse but whenever something bad happens to Izuku (like Bakugo throwing that sharp piece at Izuku's head), they are the first to say that we're taking a joke too seriously.
@@JayRedGear Yeah that's crazy to me
Bakugos character is meant to be that way because of the hero society they live in that's been the whole point of it he's a product of the broken hero society he grew up the way he did because 1. He was praised for having a good quirk to the point where it made him think he can be extremely powerful by himself and 2. The image of a hero always needing to win that he gets from all might and because all might always wins that's the type of hero Bakugo believes he has to be one that always wins and because he's grown up like that he's just the product of a failed broken hero society he develops later by learning winning isn't just about beating the villain and he learns what being a hero truly means or the hero that would fit stains ideology rather than the tv hero Bakugos been looking up to or the "image" the media gives of all might he not only focuses on saving but he's also accepted that he isn't the all powerful person he thought he was he's learned that others are what make heroes strong and fighting for others all of that hence why he tells Izuku in the war arc he can't beat shigaraki by himself asking for Bakugo to take a complete 180 and change his entire character is absurd because even Izuku hasn't changed his core values with the amount of development he's gotten Izuku was someone who had the perception a hero is someone who can save everyone while smiling and he's grown up that way despite all of his experiences still believing that asking any person to make a 180 change is unreasonable and I'm pretty sure horikoshi understands this Bakugos growth has quite literally not been that much different from endeavors even all might in the series says this ever since his growth he's always rushed to help Deku whether it be wish training when he was getting hunted by shigaraki or when Izuku was seconds away from death and Bakugo jumped in front of it to save him which is where he delivers the line "you can't do this on your own" I'm not even a Bakugo Stan he's not even top 5 characters in the show for me but saying he's horribly written is absurd because he's written genuinely well for a tool used to show how genuinely fucked up the society they live in is
Not to mention he uses his quirk illegally! Plus you could also put some assault charges or assault with a deadly weapon (his quirk) or whatever, i don't remember laws that well, not only for his bullying, but for the heros vs villains game All Might set up! All Might clearly said "You'll kill him" and bakugo replies "not if he dogdes"
So he attacked someone with full knowledge that if they didn't dodge, they would die!
Sorry for the rant or whatever, I'm very passionate about this lol
No, you're right. He really has some problems!
AND he can be charged with child abuse as well! Here, i'll point out some of the stuff he did that i consider illegal
Incourage suicide
Child abuse
Physical assault
Cruelty
Child abuse once again
Physical attack of a minor with No excuse
ALMOST murder of a minor(Anyone under 18 is a minor.)
AND HE SHOULD BE IN JAIL. LEMME- LEMME- JUST-...5..10..15...21..24. He should be in jail for 24 or more years.
I am just kinda glad he got first killed by shigiraki, everytime i see bakugo i just remember my own bullies when i used to be in high school
He is getting revived right know
@@gimp7915 ik and its really something stupid, mha now is more like Indian film than anime where characters pull stuff out of their ass, like AFO and him replacing all of he's blood just for stain
@@Mrsmile-by3oiHe’s back in the Manga now and now stronger than ever thanks to his quirk awakening. Fighting All For One
@@toadlord8594 Ik I have read that, let just hope this shit ends quick
I was happy too, he was a terrible person and I wanted to punch for hurting Deku, No hate for Clifford Chapin
I did start to like Bakugo by the end of season 6, but he’s still one of my least favorite characters. I’ve never understood why people love him so much when he’s literally the embodiment of the “toxic male character”. I particularly love how you said that if Bakugo looked like Mineta everyone would hate him. Straight up facts. I also hate how people ship him with Deku. Like, bruh, that would be one of the most abusive relationships to ever dawn anime/manga. Good job in the video, keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for the support! Yeah, I feel like I needed to make this video cause I don't see a whole lot of people talking about it, nor do I see videos talking about it
Then don't watch the anime 😑 settled
People love him because he’s based
Bakugo is the type of guy that grows to abuse his wife and children. He has no redeemable qualities and I have no gd idea why anyone finds him even remotely likable. I sware MHA fans are just trying to be edgy and diminish Bakugo as a absolutely terrible human, because of their dedication to this show. I despise how one dimensional the characters are in this anime with its desire to make the character tropes lawfull, and the only dimension of their personality. The creators have no understanding of how to eloquently articulate emotion, and how to display the nuances of the human character. Granted it is just an anime, but as someone that lives in Tokyo I promise it has far less to do with some random anime, and infinitely more to do with this cringe culture. Regardless all of the characters are poorly written, with Bakugo being unquestionably the worst. There are some aspects I really enjoy about this anime, and numerous I despise
ahan ok and?
Isn’t this slightly racist? Specifically the part about saying Japan has a cringe culture…
@@raphaelrodgers7407 oh God you triggered me... I can write a book on this topic; the misrepresentation, and the concept of racism in the West, and actually consider it often.
What is racism to you? Are you able to differentiate culture from race? Are stereotypes racist? What is your concept of culture? What do you know about the culture in Japan? Have you spent any time in a foreign culture?
You are presumably a Westerner? Daily I'm told by Asians *"Toe-mas-san. I love the West, but I hate your cultures concept of racism, and despise this Western centric presupposition of the term, and how it's shoved down my throat!"* As a Westerner you have a strong inclination to associate culture to ethnicity; this is presumably becuase America is the only culture where the ethnic identity of our minorities, are attributed to a foreign regions. Culture is not race, so inherently cannot be racist. The necessary antecedent to racism is ethnicity...
Is Midwest culture differ from NY? If I were to espouse *"NY culture is disgusting"* would you echo the ridiculous sentiments above? Of course not. You don't associate NY with an ethnicity, and only apply your flawed interpretation of the concept in the context of foreign cultures.
Japan is the number 1 grape culture on the planet. 90% of women between 14 to 49 have been assaulted. On the subway there are yellow boxes women have to stand in, in attempts to deminish random groupings. Our cell phones shutter sound is exceedingly loud to prevent men from taking inappropriate pictures of young women. 90% of the hotels here are pay by the hour. Intercourse for money is legal, and identical to Uber Eats; you literally place an order and it comes to your door. The age of concent is 13. They equate smexy to cute 😉, and subsequently sexualize young persons. Father's bathe with their daughters until the leave for college; Google it. Here kids are treated like something to objectify smexually, and as a resource. *"Someday I'll be old and need someone to take care of me."* Children are not loved, or allowed to he children, they're treated like machines. After normal class; where you're trained to sit there in silence and memorize, not critically think, you then go to an evening class. There is no association between peers, or the opposite gender. It cultivates a society of emotionally stunted, inept, confused people, with girls whom the extent of their interaction with the opposite gender is showering with their dad until they were 19. Infidelity is culturally permitted, with women not perceiving it as cheating so long as it was paid for; but is generally with a colleague. This, compounded with a complete and utter ignorance on how to navigate your emotions, and desires, leads to some very unique, and very, very, very common smexual kinks. When I was single, most women I took home would try to act like a baby when we were intimate.... Japan is the most racist, bigoted, sexest, xenophobic, hedonistic culture on the planet. That, along with 10^¹²³ other reasons are why I, as well as every xpat here in Japan, perceives this culture as fn disgusting, and it has nothing to do with the ethnicity of the people. If those same people are raised in foreign cultures it is not a concern. Your intellect is presumably based on a western glamorization of Japan from media. I promise that the reality is those awkward, inexplicable character tropes that exist in Anime. That *"why do all Anime characters have the emotional maturity of a toddler?"* With that *"Why is there always a naive protagonist, aggressively pursued by a comically over developed, pree teen, female sibling"* is more realestic of the reality of this culture.. Ergo *"disgusting."* There are alot of great aspects about this culture and the people, but like everything there is a lot of bad..
This will blow your mind:
This is a homogeneous culture; most are. In homogenous cultures where everyone is ethnically identical. In homogeneous cultures they segregate based on culture, not ethnicity. Daily I'll go to dinner with my wife, and even though we live in Shibuya, there are multiple restaurants in our area with signs saying *"We do not provide service to Chinese dogs!"* Imagine how that must make my Chinese wife feel, knowing she has avoid business in the wealthiest postal code in Japan, becuase they will throw her out? The eaziest way to segregate is via cultural connotations, ie stereotypes *"I am Japanese so I am expected to act like X. I am Chinese so I must do Y."* In America we're told this is racist, yet in Asia you're told to shut the f up, becuse stereotypes is how they identify with their culture, and it is the most important aspect of their identity. For clarification, if you were to ask my wife what she feels about Japanese women; as a Mainlander she'd say *"I despise all a Japanese women!"* As an American, with your flawed interpretation of the concept, you'd espouse she's *rAcIsT.* Meanwhile my wife would give you a blank stare and clarify *"I don't dislike Japanese women becuase they're women, nor becuse they are ethnically identical to myself. I despise Japanese women becuase of their culture."* In Japan it is culturally perceived by women that a husband allowing his wife to mistreatment is a display of love. So women will purposely degrade, humiliate, their spouses under this presupposition of *" Oh he let's me treat him so bad. No other man would put up with it, and he does, so this must mean he loves me."* So my wife would clarify she dislikes JP women for maybe becuse they're nasty, backstabbing or some random reason associated with the culture, while not being racist. This is really applicable in the concept of White Westerners. Americans are vastly different from Europeans. If a JP person were to proclaim they dislike Western gaijin (this is a slur for foreigner), would you claim their racist over the implicit belief they're referencing Whites? So why is it racist when I proclaim this culture is disgusting?
Whats even crazier is the concept of *"What is Culture?"* In the West we correlate to the ethnic descriptors associated with the region; food, clothing, music, etc. Indeed that is culture, but it's vastly different from how Asians perceive culture. Those descriptors could be associated with *"China"* culture, in the context of China. *"Chinese culture"* is vastly different, and the way one's mind works. The logic they employ, and the way they perceive the world. My wife thinks and acts like a Chinese person, and always attributes it to her culture. This leads to the advent of *"High and Low context cultures."* Which is a completely separate book, but if you have any interest research the term. We are low context culture, they are high. Becuse of this Asians vs Westerns don't just seem like different ethnicities, we're almost like different species. My wife's mind works in a way that makes no gd sense to me, and mine hers. Yet unironically, if I bump into any random Black American here in Japan, whether he be from NY to Seattle, I will have orders of magnitude more in common with him, than I would with a random White European, or person raised here in Japan.
This is how you separate culture from ethnicity, a very random, amalgamated explanation as to why it's fn dumb to correlate the two. Tbh even in America I think a correlation is only applicable towards certain ethnicities; but this is subjective. Asians here in Asia do not perceive American born Asians, as being real Asian *AND THEY'RE NOT!* American Chinese culture is its own, and they are very different from Mainlanders. So saying I'm *"mildly racist"* for espousing Japanese culture is disgusting is ignorant.
@@raphaelrodgers7407 Christ...... I think my comment was deleted that I just spent 10 mins writing.
It's not just cringe it's fn disgusting.
Equating race to culture is sheer ignorance, and doing so is a very Western centrist interpretation of the term.
Explain to me how you can correlate culture to race, and then explain to me how it was racist. I bet you cannot, even in regards to homogeneous cultures like here in Asia.
@@mrs.dazai_ and his character and the show sucks because of it.
I hate Bakugo in the first 3 seasons and I can tolerate him now I agree with your points it really bothered me when season 3 started class A stopped holding Bakugo accountable for his actions
I still can't stand him, if only because how he is written is awful
@@Cybertechwerewolf at least MHA didn’t do the thing where the jerk character is redeemed in the span of one episode
@@Ancientship True, but he still isn't redeemed in my eyes lol
I wish his death was permanent in the manga. It would've impacted the series and changed the storyline.
He was literally meant to be disliked. Shows how toxic the fandom is.
True. And I wouldn't mind how he acted, if he was written better
@@Cybertechwerewolf I wish he got actual character development but no
@@Cybertechwerewolf they made an abuser like endeavour one of the best written characters on the show but bakugo got the short end of the stick
@@dtaqt yeah, that's true. Endeavor was written far better than Bakugo
@@Cybertechwerewolf everyone in the show is. Yet they still hate Endeavour and love bakugo. His fans are the worst in the fandom
I'm making another comment because I feel like there's something else that needs to be addressed. Bakugos apology. Ive said this a million times but all he did was made up excuses for his actions instead of taking accountability. He victimised himself despite deku clearly being at his worst. Bakugo even commented on his look but still made himself the victim and pointed the blame away from himself. Classic abuser behaviour
100% this
@@mrs.dazai_ don’t make it about himself
@@mrs.dazai_ he gave excuses and excuses. Didn’t admit what he did was wrong just made himself seem like the victim of all of this despite everything Deku went through not even considering his state right now
I feel like you guys didn't actually read the apology Bakugo isn't excusing his behavior he's explaining what was going through his mind because a very big question asked when someone's mean to you for no reason is "why?" He literally says it's a weakness and he goes on to talk about how much he's been failing because clearly he agrees what he did was wrong he reassures deku that he's here to step in when things get hard for him and then states that "saving people is how we win" basically confirming the ideology dekus had and the reason Bakugo bullied him is the right ideology but the most important part is the fact Bakugo says "I don't expect this to change a thing between us" meaning he didn't expect years worth of abuse was just gonna be fixed with a simple apology he gave a verbal apology but he still knows he hasn't fully atoned for the things he's done (even tho he risked his life for izuku which is a pretty big deal but whatever ig) he isn't making excuses for himself otherwise he wouldn't still feel like he has to atone what he's trying to do is convince izuku that "you helped me see the correct path now it's my turn to help you find your way back to that path" I don't think anyone who thinks endeavor is a well written character should think Bakugo is horribly written
@@dtaqtdid we read the same chapter all he did was talk about how wrong he was and how everything he did led to failure after failure 😭
First time I saw him, I hate him nuff said
Same
@@Cybertechwerewolf Still do
THANK GOD! I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE!
@@yunalunarflower4876 Welcome to the club.
Fair
Bakugou's fans: defends Bakugou by saying he is a assh*le because he had a rough childhood.
Bakugou: Had a completely normal childhood and has absolutely no reason to be an assh*le.
💀🤣
Bakugou fans love him because he remind them their glory days in highschool.
Try to search "Peak on Highschool" in TH-cam. This would explain why bakugou is so relatable to his fans
If I am correct it is confirmed by the creator that Bakugohad a good childhood
@@faithlopezsadauskas4well the manga shows that bakugou spent his childhood life being praise as a future hero.
Ironically, Guts had the worst childhood ever, and he's far less of an asshole than Bakugō.
bakugo will never click with me. not in a million years. I will still stand by this statement bakugo is barely a rival cause a rivalry needs to be genuine and not one sided. I feel bakugo is a worse seto kaiba to me.
A fair statement
@@Cybertechwerewolf that could easily be a future video idea. Comparing tiger shonen jump rivals to bakugo
@locodesert2 I did a small snippet of that here I guess. Could be fun to do a whole thing lol
@@Cybertechwerewolf simply cause kaiba and bakugo have a lot of similarities but part of bakugos flaws are funny enough charms for kaiba which could be a fun topic to explore more on why when bakugo shared some traits with other rivals it fails.
The thing is not only kaiba absolutely overflowing with charisma
He is also the "jerk ass with a heart" character done right
Like sure, he's a rich asshole who antagonizes Yugi at every chance he gets
But he also got rid of the military weapons of his company, actively gets rid of people who use his company to hurt people, throughout the series he has genuinely done wonders for the advancement of humanity
And he very clearly cares for his little brother
You can see his heart shining trough
But most importantly, the other characters still treat him like an asshole, because that's what he is,
Bakugo on the other than is a clear textbook bully, but he is somehow adored by kirishima and ashido who are supposed to hate bullies, despite the fact that he never changes
Honestly the ONLY I felt that I could forgive Bakugou was AFTER Shigaraki beat the crap out of him in the Final arc, like it was some catharsis for me.
Karma paying it's dues in my eyes lol
@@CybertechwerewolfFor ALL of Shigaraki’s Atrocities/ Crimes against Humanity, he did One good thing. Beating up the show’s bully lol.
@@toadlord8594 very true
I still genuinely don’t get how the narrative nearly constantly wants us to believe that Bakugo is “A genius who works harder than anyone cause he’s carrying a huge burden and is a misunderstood angel in disguise” every time someone talks about him, he’s a major jerk yet everyone acts like he’s this great guy, we literally have never seen him work hard at anything and is just good at anything off the bat, everyone bends over backwards to cater to him, he’s a pro hero’s favorite just because of his bloodlust attitude alone and the fact Aizawa never gets on him for anything but gets on every other student over anything.
And the fact Midoriya and Kirishima hate bullies canonically but worship Bakugo somehow….. I don’t get it, I really don’t.
Yeah I can't wrap my head around how the story wants to frame Bakugo, vs how he is actually presented to us
He does work hard at fighting. Sure as shit doesn't work hard at the heroic qualities. Seriously, he's a prime example of what's wrong with their hero society meanwhile people like deku get shafted and stomped on.
Bakugou has a contradicting narrative in the manga. He was shown as a hardworking, determine and strong hero, and was constantly praise . But he never got any heroic deeds to prove it .
MHA heroes are judge by their accomplishment ( ie beating villains & saving lives) not by how strong they are. And the rivalry of MHA is different compared to other shounen mangas which is mostly beating each other to prove whose better.
If we compare deku and bakugou heroic accomplishment, it's obvious that deku is a better hero and bakugou will never surpass him.
In the manga, deku fought and won against stain, mascular, overhaul, gentle, lady nagant and several villains in the dark hero arc. He also saves kota, eri and several dozen people. Compare to bakugou who only beats the purse thief and the dictator villain, and save there people. If their accomplishment is known in MHA, deku will be praise as the next Almight while bakugou is just the hero of the week.
Horikoshi seem to downplays deku accomplishment to avoid overshadows bakugou. A prime example is the huso arc where deku, iada & shoto beats stain. If it was made public, it makes them the big three of A class and overshadows bakugou winning the sport festival arc .
@@BoscoSal-ao some victory. Some students forfeited and todoroki stopped at the end
Bakugou is supposed to be a hero and I judge him by his heroic deeds. But alas, bakugou fought more of his fellow heroes while deku fought a lot of villains.
Endeavor was an adult who made up for his actions. It's season 6. Bakugo should freaking grow up already. Bullies aren't always bullies. He's 17 almost 18. I love endeavor and he's severely too hated.
Very very true
@@Cybertechwerewolfpeople kinda just hate Endeavor cause of what he did to Todoroki mainly , a lot of people just simply love Shoto and kinda just hate Endeavor purely on the fact he abused Shoto, caused him trauma and never tried to connect him emotionally.
But those people also ignore his development and what his trying to do inorder to make up for what his done to his family,like if Rei and Shoto ,which are the two he abused and caused pain and trauma the most but are willing to at least give him a chance to attone for his past actions and become a better person.
Endeavor so far has the best character depth and growth ,he deserves far more credit than Bakugo for his growth and unlike Bakugo , Endeavor isn't still acting disrespectful and being angry for no reason all the time.
@@IzukuKun-ow4rx Exactly, and I can't understand the mindset of people supporting Bakugo and not Endeavor lol
@@Cybertechwerewolf I mean unlike Endeavor,if Bakugo lost his anger issues,he wouldn't be as loved and his cockyness as well,it's what people mainly love about him ,it's always entertaining to people seeing him be angry when it's completely unnecessary for him to be and see him mock people and act like his always better than people.
I don't like how Horikoshi is making Bakugo stay overconfident and cocky even after he came back to life after dying an hour ago in the manga for them . Like it doesn't make sense to me and it's making people actually think he can beat AFO and surpass Izuku and it's almost the end and Horikoshi always hinted on how Bakugo could possibly improve his attitude and personality,he did mainly show Bakugo could work well with others if he actually tries to which he does but that's about it,he isn't as disrespectful or rude but still is and hasn't massively changed.
@@IzukuKun-ow4rx Exactly, this is the point I tried to drive home in my video, that Horikoshi wants to have his cake and eat it too with Bakugo's character. He wants to have character development moments, but not actually change how Bakugo acts
I have NEVER liked Bakugou. His apology was half-assed and limp. If he truly meant what he said he would have whatever it took to earn Deku's respect including grovelling at his feet if need be.
I agree. At the very least, he should have tried to change his behavior, which he has not done
@@CybertechwerewolfHe did actually. He tried to call Midoriya by his real name, but he told Bakugo he didn’t have to force himself to be nice to him. Maybe him calling Midoriya Deku is a force of habit, but it still makes him look bad if even Midoriya has to call him out.
When Endeavor started to evolve in terms of his chracter development. I saw a horrible man start to develope as not a great man but a man who refuses to let the word " Horrible and Abusive " be his final definition . He's a flawed character who is desperately is trying to become the best he can be before he dies , to turn around the word Endeavor from a bad person to greater hero than his past .
Bakugo couldnt even tie Endeavor , Tenya , Lemillion or Red Riots shoes . He gets so much shine from the show it irritates me because other characters, especially in class 1A gets overlooked and underdeveloped in my opinion . Uravity , Ingenium , Tokoyami and more could be explored yet instead are shoved back to excuse and not right the character of Bakugo . It annoys me becauss he is a bully who just is toleratable and even favored in the series and fandom . He is worshiped for the same behaviour Stain had detested .
This is a statement I wish I had thought to put in my video! Very well said 👏
@Cybertechwerewolf Thanks, bro , but you nailed it . Your point was clear enough as is . If Mineta was better looking, then he and Kaminari would be fine . If Monoma from Class 1B was a good-looking as Bakugo, then he too would be fine yet since apparently they aren't to the Fandom then they get a different treatment as you said on the video .
It is what it is , Great Vid 💪🏾.
@joshuaware818 thanks man!
Endeavor character development is the adult version of bakugou done right. I find his rivalry with almighty interesting and tragic. Despite being no. 2 for a long time and has the most crime case solve, endeavor unable to surpass almight since he never posses the magnetic charisma that made almight the no.1 hero. Bakugou status as a rival is pathetic since heroes are judge by their accomplishment not by how strong they are. if deku fights were made public in universe it easily destroys bakugou status as a rival. If bakugou want to prove he is better than deku, all he have to do is beat a lot of villains but alas it never happen. All we got is him beating his fellow heroes. .
@BoscoSal-ao very good point . I wish the series explored more as to the WHY Endeavor felt the need to be number 1 . What was number 2, never good enough . Sure, Allmight was a major goal, but I felt qierd if a random man was his only inspiration to turn into a monster as he did . Regardless his development as a character is incredible interesting and more inspiring than Bakugos weak apology . Bakugo's acts if heroism is more so the standard at which any other hero student would've done for one another , it doesn't make him special now it just makes him a loud student following some of the rules . Not that the series would reprimand him if he didn't.
i can't stand Bakugo....not sure why he is a fan favorite. the character makes no sense.....
Thank You
I agree with you so much. Eisb!!
Yeah I hate how he was written
I really hate bakuko i don't even want to think how much bad impact he would put on ppl around me
Exactly
I hate you too
I recently found out for a online news article that bakugo was DESIGNED to be a CRUEL BULLY. But during the story, horikoshi CHANGED HIS MIND and gave bakugo redemption.
That means, bakugo becoming nice is a RECON.
The way bakugo acts in the beginning of the story, is how he was going to act the ENTIRE STORY.
Until horikoshi changed his mind.
So people who HATED bakugo for the way he acted in the story's beginning are correct to hate him.
That personality bakugo started with is his ORIGINAL personality.
Meaning people who defend bakugo for his personality in the beginning of the story are relying on a RECON that horikoshi made to bakugo.
And the retcon makes no sense, cause his personality still sucks lol
@@Cybertechwerewolf I know.
What do you except when horikoshi has suddenly changed his mind?
The recon doesn't work as well, because it was so sudden.
It had NO TIME to build up or be thought out.
Horikoshi just randomly decided to change bakugo and that's it.
The recon was like this:
"Remember bakugo being a bully? Well he isn't now."
That's it.
The Bakugo who told Izuku to kill himself... is the REAL Bakugo.
A bit late to the party and everything you said is pretty much correct. I made a post on Tumblr a little bit ago about my own points on how Bakugo is a horribly written character, and so far all I've gotten is the toxic Bakugo stans replying in my comments.
Guess that makes me right then, lol.
I still get people commenting on this video disagreeing with me lol
this is so true! i had blinders on at first over pity for him but the more and more i look at him i was right with my first opinion of him, h e was a douche character with a toxic mentality. Great video cyber! one of your best!
Thank you so much, bruv!
His likeability factor is irrefutable considering his popularity factor both in the west and in Japan's domestic polls.
@@694magicman well it really doesn't have anything to do with likeability. People can like abrasive characters. That's fine. He's just horribly written as a character
That's why he's a terrible character
MHA fans should watch Ted Lasso, Jamie's character arc on that show is golden
I tried to like bakugo but nah dude I HATE him so much. This guy was a mistake in the first place. Idk why people likes him so much they always treat him like a god. Plus he is Annoying, have the Worst Origin Story, always making ugly faces, and he is also the reason why the Fandom is Crap. Especially those Idiotic bkdk people who treats there Toxic ship like a religion
Honestly Bakugou should be the kind of character I would ADORE! Cause I have always been a fan of the Sasuke- Lancer types but even after his Second fight with Deku and became “worthy rivals” he still pisses me off. Mostly from him BARELY getting any actual fights against Villains that aren’t in the movies, his constant yelling at Izuku and all his classmates, him throwing his accessory at Deku’s head causing him to Bleed which were supposed to find Funny. (This is Post rematch Deku but it’s still hard for me to like him as a character).
Even his apology didn’t help me much on this.
I’m just gonna admit Endeavor character arc is EVERYTHING that I wished Bakugou’s could’ve been like.
Well the second fight of bakugou and deku is where everything went wrong with bakugou. Sure the fight made bakugou more popular but it's cost him to be irrelevant to the plot. Bakugou has no major villain fights after that compare to deku who fought overhaul, gentle, mascular and other villains. I honestly though it's Horikoshi poor writing but I remember that bakugou suppose to be horikoshi PET. There I realize, if bakugou was really his Pet why he is not given any villain fights or a solo arc. My theory is bakugou is the EDITOR PET and Horikoshi PEST. If you wondering why the editor because the editor has the power to change mangaka storyline. Mangakas can't say no to what the editors says otherwise they may get screwed. Bakugou status as a rival was probably the editor idea and his irrelevance to the plot was probably horikoshi response.
Also, I been reading the manga and I notice an interesting pattern, everytime bakugou accomplish something he either get sideline in the next arc or was fallowed by something better. When bakugou won the school sport but he got sidelined in the huso arc; he stops dark shadow rampage but deku beats mascular; he won his second match with deku but got sidelined in the next arc where deku beats overhaul; he showed his drummer skills in the school festival but deku beats gentle; he beats the B class team but deku awaken his second quiks; he saves shoto brother but shoto beats the villain and deku save a dozen people; he saves deku from shirigaki attack but got sidelined in the dark hero arc; he apologize to deku but it's ochako speech's that saves deku ; he fights shirigaki but got brutally beaten and was sidelined for 30+ chapter and more than a year in real time. He gives the final blow to all for one but alas it was fallowed by deku vs shirigaki where all for one somehow came back and took over shirigaki body.
I seriously believe that bakugou deserves the title the Symbol of Pyrrhic Victory.
@@BoscoSal-aoYeah I honestly agree with that, you probably hit the nail on the head on the issues with Bakugou’s development
@@toadlord8594also anytime deku achieves any good growth akugou is there to make him his bitch
I wouldn't actually have much of a problem with Bakugo apology if he actually owned up and actually apologized for all the messed up stuff he did, but instead he trys to make it seem like he had a justify reason for bullying Izuku. I mean for peak sake he told him to jump off a building and hope he gets a quirk in the next life, like bruh.
Exactly my issue with him
I hate Bakugo and he never had a bad childhood he had a good childhood. It is confirmed. He is acting like being insecure is a way to justify bullying someone. For one imagine being bullied for 11 years just because your Bully thinks that you can surpass them. Like that is. It an excuse like you said he should know better and not to mention he told Izuku to literally kill himself! Like he could have jumped and the sad thing is that is one of the few reasons why people jump is because of others hurting them so Izuku could have killed himself .because of him! Last thing Bakugo’s apology sucks like it took way too long. One it took a war arc, him almost dying, Izuku leaving, and Izuku pretty much running himself to the ground. Another one is that his apology is so over rated like it is not that good he never even really changed. Like Bakugo still insults others including Izuku.that is why I hate Bakugo only a few reasons tho. Thank you for hearing my rant
I hate bakugo honestly think he should have stayed dead but mabye Horikoshi was to afraid because the crazy fans would be mad at him, from the first episode that i saw him i could not stand him in any way and people in the fandom are mentally ill to think that he got any development at all he will always be an awful character to me and almost NOTHING can change that.
Exactly what I think too
Him suicide baiting was bad and i hope someone's finds out he did that to a qurikless kid. Oh and him after winning the games he saying that he'll kill everyone.The fact that he was kidnapped by villains to be turned into a villain. 😂his apology was all about him not how hes ruined deku life, his entire response to abuse. Whyd he create izuka to just torture him?
I'm all for redemption arcs but I honestly don't like Bakugo as a person or as a character. As a person, he is annoying, toxic, and his behavior of constantly insulting and yelling at people should not be treated as comedy as Horikoshi has done in recent arcs. As a character, he doesn't have much going for him beyond being petty to Deku.
For all the shit Endeavor gets, he also changed in the way he treated people. He used to be a dick to everyone, including his family, and now he is a lot calmer and more respectful. Bakugo doesn't change his attitude, which is still his main issue.
His fandom is also the definition of gaslighting people. Bakugo is not all that from a writing perspective. I'd argue the only character who was written really well and didn't have his arc screwed up was All Might. And even then, that resolution against AFO was awful.
Probably the worst written character in the entire series
I also agree I didn't want to talk about for a long time due to his bullying I didn't find his bullying excusable just because he got an ego boost from everyone around him especially due to how psychotic he was in one of the trainings in UA when he tried to kill Midoriya.
What always bothered me is that Class 1-A clearly had a promising cast of characters who I would have loved to see more of. Kirishima, Tsu, Ashido, Tokoyami, Sero, Kaminari, Jiro, ect. They're all likable and interesting. They seem like fun characters and promising heroes. But Bakugo's constant screaming and increasingly violent behavior took a large portion of the spotlight.
Fortunately, horikoshi did rectify this in the final arc which focus more on the side characters and left bakugou as a corpse for 36 chapters.
Unfortunately, bakutard fans ignore it and keep praising bakugou beating afo as the best moment of the final arc.
@@BoscoSal-ao Even then, it was a case of "too little, too late."
@@BoscoSal-ao And that wasn’t even enough because he still gets the most spotlight once he’s revived and now is confirmed from the recent chapter leaks to have had fangirls since his sports festival days, all from being a jerk who does the bare minimum.
@@superherochestsymbol1032 well let see in the 7th season of mha.
@@superherochestsymbol1032 well Bakugou is someone who Peak on Highschool.
Personally,
While I do have anger issues,
And I may act in an enraged state,
But I would definitely Never tell people to jump off of buildings like how Bakugo did to Deku.
I would only insult people if people were to insult others.
But still, I would never tell people to off themselves.
I may have done some things in the past,
But even Ik my limts,
Bakugo does not.
Although even if he does,
He'd probably would rather just ignore it/them.
I may relate to him on at least some extent,
But that doesn't mean I like them,
Let alone love him,
Only somewhat tolerate him at best.
Which I think the other characters do bc they probably rather take things more maturely,
Or at least as mature as possible in comparison to some/certain things.
Just a theoretical reason why they tolerate him.
Meaning I do agree with your points.
Also since Bakugo is a blond whom was "destined" to become a hero,
Worshiped another during childhood,
And whom was basically corrupt since thar childhood or something,
And also treats people like their nothing and themselves like they're gods or something like that,
That sort of reminded me of Homelander.
But other than that,
I still agree with your thoughts on Bakugo.
Tbh, while I don’t mind the character, I kind of agree with this video on some level. He’s a bad person. That being said, I don’t think his “redemption” arc is the worst in the series. That title goes to Endeavor for me.
Personally I like Endeavor's redemption arc better. It's not god level writing, but I think it's certainly better than Bakugo's lol
@@Cybertechwerewolf I personally disagree. While I don’t think the execution of Bakugo’s arc is good, I at least think it works on a narrative level. Like, I can see what was being attempted even though I don’t think it works. But Endeavor’s arc doesn’t even feel like it was properly thought out. Half of the time I feel like Horikoshi might have been making up parts of it as he went along tbh.
@@You-Tube-n5k I think it's the same for both characters. I think they weren't thought out well
@@Cybertechwerewolf I suppose. What I meant was that I can see the layout for Bakugo’s arc working if it was executed better. But I can’t really see Endeavor’s arc working unless it’s altered significantly. I could go into more detail there, but that might take a really long time lol
@@You-Tube-n5k Oh okay I get what you mean lol
I agree. He's not a very likeable character. Not very well written.
I agree!
Same!!!
@@esmeraldadelatorre8676I thought him not being Likable was kinda the point of Early season Bakugou, his slow reformation into a better person season by season.
Honestly it’s kinda hilarious how an ABRIDGED series version of Bakugou was made more likable to some than Canon Bakugou. Ex. Joyride Entertainment
I gotta watch that now lol
@@Cybertechwerewolf Yeah the best version of Bakugou is usually in fan fictions cause God knows the fans know how someone like Bakugou would be realistically treated.
@@Cybertechwerewolf But I could show you the link to My Hero Abridged if you want.
@@toadlord8594 well the bakugo stans typically like to project their own fan fictions onto the real version because that's how they want him to be, but it's not how he is, but that's how fans treat him, it's very odd lol
@@toadlord8594 Please!!!
Well the manga has reached it’s end (Ch. 430) a couple days ago and by the end (8 year Timeskip)
his words are getting pissed at a reporter for getting too close to him and says” why you getting so close? You wanna Die?”
Though he did help pay for Deku’s new Suit.
I suppose I could like Bakugo, if he actually developed as a character. Him apologizing is all well and good, but that doesn't excuse lazy writing. Like I said in the video, I feel like Horikoshi wanted Bakugo to develop without changing how he acts.
Bakugou is present to all epilogue chapters but he was not the focus of the story. Bakugou ends without any importance to the story.
In the end, Bakugou is just an annoying side character with awful lot of screen time.
I seriously can’t believe he’s the most liked character, he gets on my nerves every fucking episode
@@Crybbmel-hy2hk same
If you defend this character, it's probably because you've never lived with someone like that
This type of person never understands why he's wrong, and only lives in peace if you act towards him in the same way
He's the type of person who only abuses the weak and fears the strong
That is the sickest intro animation i've ever seen, i agree with you
@@GrapeDaOne why thank you!
@@Cybertechwerewolf You're welcome!
The manga is nearing its final chapters and wow ! Bakustan are making a wild claim about deku being sidelined in the final arc.
Damm they are really desperately in denial about bakugou being sideline in the final arc .
While bakugou land the final blow against AFO, it doesn't change the fact he got sidelined for more than half of the final arc.
6:45 Facts
2:44 That might have actually been more interesting, even if he was still an arrogant dick, showing his strenght by always fighting essentially 'the toughest guy on the block' rather than the literaly weakest person in the room, would be better.
I agree. He's the only part of this show I cannot stand
The people who like Bakugo and Taiga Aisaka from Toradora are the worst people to walk the Earth.
One chapter before MHA officially ends. The epilogue chapters really fix several issues of series except for unfortunately, bakugou. Despite being present in all chapter, there is no bakugou focus chapter. his fans notices this that they what the last chapter to be about deku-bakugou chapter but the way the 429 end say differently. I think the last chapter would be a timeskip where A1 class are already become proheroes and we probably going to see the next hero ranking. I think bakugou will be the new no.1 hero of Japan while deku is probably somewhere in Africa saving lives.
Major facts!
Thank you! Lol
The final chapter is leaked although not not translated, it confirm my theory that horikoshi never likes bakugou status as a rival that he made sure to make Bakugou irrelevant to the story.
Ever since bakugou becomes deku rival he is somewhat sideline in the story like an annoying side character with a lot of screen time.
Also I find horikoshi claim of not making a sequel questionable since the ending is somewhat ambiguous and deku dad never showed up.
Bakugō could've worked if instead of a half-assed 'redemption', he ruined his future Hero prospects with his violent behaviour. Subvert the 'asshole rival becomes a good guy' trope every man, woman and they/them has done since Vegeta.
That would’ve essentially made Bakugou turn into Sasuke of Part 2. Wait does he join the League in your idea, does he become some rogue vigilante or something? To contrast with Deku?
Bakugou would came back in MHA season 7 episode 20-21 after 9-10 episodes in life support.
I just realized how bakugou has fewer screen time from MHA season 4-7. The last season give bakugou his worst screen time ever.
@@BoscoSal-ao this is true, and people still say he's a good rival
@@Cybertechwerewolf I agree, people really love bakugou despites his lack of important role to the story. The most annoying one is that they claim that bakugou was the most development character of MHA. Which is stupid since he never got any solo arc or the focus of the series.
Also, I find bakugou being a rival pointless in the final chapter since deku spent 8 years as a teacher and never got any competition.
@@BoscoSal-ao Yeah that ending was kind of crap
@@Cybertechwerewolf let's just hope that horikoshi decides to make a sequel.
So if you've caught up to the Manga/watched Season 7 of My Hero, how did you react to Bakugou's "Death"?
@@toadlord8594 Underwhelmed, quite honestly
The series ambiguous ending really broke the fandoms. With some making fun on deku by making image of him working on McDonald's.
Sirously, do they realize that MHA would likely have fallow up stories, like the light novels given on bleach and naruto.
I just wait for a year or two for it to happen. Now for the next manga to read is SAKOMOTO DAYS
Def agree with you on this
I hate douchey characters that hardly get repercussions, Bakugo is no exception
Exactly. It would be different if he had some real redemption arc
In my opinion if Bakugou turned into a villain and never got reformed would be interesting.
Well that's hardly interesting, just look at all the mha fanfics. Most of the time, he got arrested and left out of the story. There is lot of fanfics that focus more on deku being a villain than bakugou.
Despite being the most popular character of mha, it's difficult to make a good story about bakugou.
@@BoscoSal-ao 🤷🏻♀️
PREACH, KING!!!! W OPINION
1:22 Bakugo having a bad childhood is pure nonsense especially when you consider that there are scenes where Mitsuki is alright/decent. Not to mention Bakugo pretty much has everything handed to him: a powerful quirk, looks (he was considered an ikemen), wealth (I mean have you seen their house), friends and popularity.
2:11 humor is subjective (since people have different kinds of humor) and imo i don't even find it funny, I either get annoyed or just ignore it for the most part
3:27 I mean Bakugo and Endeavor share a lot in common: heat-based quirks, both want to surpass All Might by their own efforts, they have a rivalry with OFA users, they are prideful, dominant, ambitious, and have serious tempers, They were abusive (Endeavor to his family and Bakugo to Broccoli Man)
3:45 between Bakugo and Endeavor, Endeavor's redemption feels more believable in my opinion mostly because Endeavor faced serious consequences for his actions, Bakugo's redemption feels problematic because he tends to go back and forth (with one of his worst regressions being in season 5 as well as the lack of serious repercussions caused by his attitude) another key difference is why they become heroes Endeavor became a hero after witnessing his father try and save a little girl in a fire
3:50 "Bakugo is a child" Bruh try using that excuse on Mineta since he's younger than Bakugo
4:32 Bakugo's apology feels like a retcon especially when he says had all the advantages yet he still felt Deku was ahead of him like dude you have a quirk and Deku doesn't have one. (There is more but Im bad at conveying my thoughts as well as how to deliver it at times)
5:00 Considering what Genya has been through in his life it makes sense why he turns out as an a-hole
5:39 Not really some of them don't tolerate his behavior, the problem is that he gets a slap on the wrist most of the time by the people who have pointed out his attitude
6:00 Every fandom is toxic
I agree with you especially bakugou reason for hating and bullying deku. He hate him because he look down on himw. He bullies him because he is afraid that he is a better hero.
@@fullofnonsense05 fair points
While I do believe Bakugo isn't irredeemable, his flaws should be handled much more seriously, instead of getting sidelined later in the show. I don't simply mean being called out, I mean how it affects his relationship with his classmates as a whole.
@@fullofnonsense05 I won't say they're irredeemable, he just wasn't handled well as a character
What made me dislike him was in the anime was when he told Deku to kill himself in the first episode. That's kinda messed up.
I would have to agree. And he hasn't made up for it in the slightest
💯 percent agree on video, I totally understand and agree with you on Bakugo, actually different elements of character, just crazy similar to Marvel Comic’s the Punisher in anti-hero.
Well, the difference is that Punisher was written better and has an actual believable backstory that explains his motives. Bakugo doesn't.
I'm reading the manga final arc and I really don't like how will it end. Like my previous comments, bakugou will going to have an unsatisfying ending.
I believe the MHA will end with bakugou being the no. 1 hero of Japan while deku will be traveling around the world as a wondering hero. It may be weird but this can be interpreted as bakugou a famous star in Japan while deku is a famous star in the world.
Yeah I'm not gonna like that if that's how it ends
@@Cybertechwerewolf I read the latest chapter and I think his final appearance will be at the epilogue. From the war arc to the final arc, I notice bakugou got sidelined four times straight, after accomplish something: His saving deku from shirigaki, his apology to deku, his fight with shirigaki and his final blow against afo. Bakugou lack of screentime is noticable worst in the final arc since it that time the editor resign.
People will going to notice it and they will going to reevaluate bakugou character. Try to search Character Perception Evolution in Tv Tropes and you will find how problematic it is
@@BoscoSal-ao Wow, that's insane. I wonder why he's doing that??
@@Cybertechwerewolfwell the most obvious one, is that horikoshi never really likes bakugou status as a rival. I believe the author never intend to make bakugou the rival especially bakugou infamous suicide bait. Horikoshi probably intend to give bakugou a redemption arc but the auditor was against it. The auditor probably demanded bakugou to be the rival and Horikoshi can't say no. You should notice bakugou role went shit after he becomes the rival.
I also learn that the auditor resigned in march 2022, in the start of the manga final arc. And several months later the chapter 362 happens.
I believe bakugou irrelevance in the plot, especially his lack of villain fights is some KIND of REVENGE by horikoshi against his auditor.
@@Cybertechwerewolf the author giving bakugou a redemption arc is probably the best outcome for bakugou but alas it never happen. The deku vs bakugou second match suppose to be the end of their friendship, not to affirm their rivalry. You should notice that after the second match, deku never talks or interact with bakugou.
Unpopular Opinion: Kirishima and Bakugo shouldn't even be friends
Kirishima in middle school stood up to bullies, the fact that he was concerned about Midoriya choosing his hero name as the name he was insulted with really should've raised some eyebrows since Kirishima has shown to be friendly to Bakugo before these, he should know that Deku was from him
@fullofnonsense05 This is an excellent point. I'm making a full MHA retrospective video, this is something I'll bring up
Some of the problems I have with this douchebag is the fact many people implied that his mother was abusive which I disagree because
- it should've been mentioned and shown in the manga not hinted at (he's supposed to be one of the main characters of the show)
-He shouldn't be that harsh on Todoroki when it comes to discussing family problems during the sports festival (He's a hero in training at least learned some tact) which was made worse by the fact that Bakugo had eavesdropped on Deku and Todoroki's conversation which included his family issues
- We see moments and flashbacks where his mother is a decent person.
His relationship with Todoroki also makes zero sense. All Might once mentioned that Bakugo and Endeavor are similar, which annoys me because Todoroki should've also noticed the similarities. I may have mentioned this before but Bakugo shouldn't be that disrespectful towards Todoroki and his family problems. (If I was Todoroki I would've been disgusted at him and not let him use my flames). He also shouted at Fuyumi for discussing his family problems (I get that it's a sensitive topic, but shouting is a bad move and can cause people to lose respect). He also started being a little pr!ck towards Endeavor after Endeavor saved Natsuo from a villain (Realistically Shoto should've told him to stop since it involved his family)
I agree. He's just a bad character. He had no arc and was barely present for the final arc of the manga
I have just watch season 7 bakugou vs shirigaki fight and it's a glorious one sided defeat of bakugou. Bakugou is out for more than 10 episodes but alas his fans will still claims bakugou beating AFO.
Bakugou stan really makes many excuses about bakugou lack of villains fight by saying he doesn't need to fight since his greatest enemy is himself.
Damm they are illogical that they forgot that MHA is a shounen battle manga.
@@BoscoSal-ao I've seen people claim Bakugo beats Todoroki, and I'd argue Todoroki is he second strongest of Class 1-A.
@@Cybertechwerewolf the problem with Bakugou fans is that they fails to understand that MHA is not a sport manga. It's makes since in the UA sport festival but as a hero not so much, especially in the next arc. In the husu arc, if the defeat of stain made public it easily made deku, shoto and iada famous and overshadows Bakugou winning the UA sport festival.
@@BoscoSal-ao very true
@@Cybertechwerewolf I'm been telling this to a lot of bakustan but alas they refuse to admit it and says Bakugou doesn't need to fight to prove it.
Their reasoning drives me nuts. They completely ignored my reason that bakugou need a villains fight to prove that he is a badass hero.
@@BoscoSal-ao and yet he hasn't fought many 🤣
I am bored, so i am here and yes, i am a bakugo fan. So let me put my bias perspective here. First of all let me clarify that i won't be excusing his behavior. Him being a jerk is basically why i like him. When i watch the show I don't want to be this saint ideal good person. What i want is entertainment and distraction from reality.
There are several reasons why I think this character is well written. It's worth noting that to be a good character, you don't have to be a good person or have a complicated or sad backstory, as each character has a role to play. In the first season, and indeed throughout the entire show, his role was to be a foil to Izuku. I won’t go deep into this topic, but they have a lot of contrasts. He also distracts us from the main character's flaws with his obnoxious behavior, thereby making us feel more for Deku. However, I am a stale piece of bread and it didn’t affect me anyway.
Bakugou is a very bright character. He is loud and has a distinct quirk that always catches your attention. Besides, explosions are pretty cool and fun (hello to all Minecraft fans). Plus I can relate to this character. And don’t say that you have never felt anger so strong that you wanted to throw it out and shout. Also, I’m sure everyone has at least once felt the desire to win some competition. Bakugou's desire to fulfill his dream is very strong, which is actually a positive quality despite his bad personality. I find this aspect of his character interesting because it is a trait that is truly inspiring and respectful, despite the fact that it would seem impossible to feel respect for such a bad person.
Based on the above, we have a bright character whose character traits are actually quite realistic. I really enjoy watching him mature. His views and values change, gradually he becomes more aware of himself, BUT at the same time his basic essence does not change. He does NOT become a different person, but rather grows up. His explosiveness is his main essence; if you take that away, it will just be a different character. The author, in my opinion, managed to unobtrusively show how he has changed without losing his main highlights. Again, I don’t see the point in going deeper, but if someone doesn’t agree, I’m ready to discuss and explain my position in more detail.
And yes, he is a much better hero than Deku, because Deku and Allmight most often rush into battle thoughtlessly. Yes, this is supposedly a good trait of the hero, but somewhat irrational. I’ll die but I’ll save you - this is their position and I find it stupid. In addition, this shows how much their personalities are not self-sufficient. They don't value their lives because they still consider themselves losers who put themselves below others. And this is another contrast between Deku and Bakugo that has been going on since the first season.
As a conclusion, I would like to say that a well-made or poorly made character is all too subjective. Every man to his own taste. I will not judge you for having a different opinion and will be happy to discuss the topic of my favorite character. In the end, different points of view helps to look at the situation from different angles and see a more complete picture.
Bless your heart for not being a toxic Bakugo fan. I hope both sides of your pillow are cold.
I am very glad you decided to be civil, unlike most toxic fans. I will say, you are correct that being a good person doesn't make you a well written character. Plenty of characters fit that mold like Negan from Walking Dead or DC comic Joker. And I agree, Bakugo had a purpose and a role to play in Deku's character development in the first few seasons. Where I will disagree, is that beyond like season 2 or 3, Bakugo's development as a character began to falter. I didn't like him as a character, but that wasn't what compelled me to make the video. What did it was how much he became pretty useless in later seasons in terms of his character. He never did much, and the only noteworthy thing he did in my opinion was saving Deku and apologizing during season 6. After that, even in the manga, he really never did much, and didn't fill the "rival" role he was set up to be.
MHA chapter 431 is release. The ochako deku ship lives and shows the class hero ranking.
Deku continues to be a hero but he enjoys being a teacher that he treat his hero work as a part time job. Which is a good since villains a getting fewer that the heroes have a difficult time finding one.
As for bakugou, he kinda got sidelined as deku seemed to have no interest in their rivalry. bakugou ranking went from 4th to 15th, his fans may accept it but for me it's not good since the chapters states that villains decrease every year and heroes may be out of jobs.
I watch the 2nd match of bakugou vs shirigaki while it's better than the first, it's still pointless as bakugou never beats or weaken shirigaki. The sad and tragic scene is cleverly design to make sure his fans feel sad, not to piss them off .
Judging from what I read in the manga, horikoshi really made bakugou irrelevant to the end.
The series ending left Bakugou irrelevant. Bakugou status as deku rival is pointless and he never actually beat afo since Afo actually highjacks shirigaki body hence its deku who actually beats afo.
Bakugou is nothing more than a glorified mascot whom you see alot in the series but has no role or irrelevance to the series.😮
Time for some Bakugo slander/Bashing
Bakugo: blames himself for All Might's retirement
Also Bakugo: proceeds to insult All Might's mentor and the other OFA predecessors and make fun of her quirk
Bakugo: apologizes to Deku
Also Bakugo: wants to assault Aoyama even after finding out why he became a villain he doesn't even care at all
@fullofnonsense05 that's exactly what I'm saying. The dude flip flops all the time 🤣
@@Cybertechwerewolf lol
0:57 Bakugo is just an asshole. Twice or Himiko could have very easily become reformed villains.
The problem with bakugou in my opinion is irrelevance. Right after beating deku in their second match and becoming deku rival, I notice that his role went downhill. He never got any major villian fights or a solo arc.
I feel like the author never intend to make bakugou the rival but was force to, i think bakugo was the EDITOR PET. Horikosho probably want to gave bakugoa a redemption arc but was screwed by his editor. My theory is that the editor suggest the idea of bakugou being the rival
That is likely what led Bakugo to be poorly written
Agree, after becoming deku rival bakugou role was sidelined. I think this is horikoshi response to his editor meddling. I believe the editor also suggest bakugou inheriting one for all which piss off horikoshi .
@@BoscoSal-ao Well I guess technically it happened in the movie for a moment lol
@@Cybertechwerewolf well the ending of the movie hero rising is what the manga suppose to end. My theory is the editor wants bakugou to inherit ofa but horikoshi refuse. Horikoshi claims in the movie was his way of saving face to the editor. In the manga final arc, horikoshi ruthlessly destroys bakutards theories about bakugou being the second user or being the tent user.
he is in that weird territory where he is a good rival but can't stand his character at least in the first 3 seasons.
I still can't stand him, but even beyond that he's just badly written
I wonder how the anime will handle the ending?
Now that I was reminded of this video and re-watched it, I'd like to come back and express something that had rubbed me the wrong way the whole time but I hadn't been able to put a finger on it when I'd first watched it. ^^ I think what made me raise my eyebrows was the way you talk about "the fandom" and their supposed pressure on Horikoshi when it comes to Bakugou. MHA is a story written by a Japanese person in Japanese, first and foremost about Japanese society, first and foremost for Japanese readers (or at least for readers who are very familiar with the Japanese language and customs). The themes and message of it of course can be enjoyed and analyzed by anyone but I think looking at it through a Western lense will always make things a bit distorted, especially if you're not approaching the material with an open and understanding mindset.
I don't mean this in an offensive way and please correct me if I'm wrong but to me your whole argument sounds like you're coming from a Western-centric angle with expectations that this piece of media will cater to YOU as an audience, and when you feel like it does not, then it must be because of "bad writing". To my knowledge Japanese readers in general were blown away by the apology scene in the manga and were more than satisfied with Bakugou's character arc, praising Horikoshi for his writing. It were mainly the Japanese fans who voted Bakugou 1st for every single official popularity contest. It's the Japanese audience whose opinions Horikoshi cares about the most, because it's the main target audience as most likely it's the ones possessing all the proper tools to understand the story wholly. And if those, who this piece of media is primarily intended for, love Bakugou this much then maybe... there's a good reason for it other than his looks? :D
For example the anime already changes up some things compared to the written form, it loses some great nuances but the apology scene itself still remains powerful. But then translation blurs the picture even further, more and more nuances get lost eventually. Assuming that one is probably 1) looking at the story with a Western mindset unquestioningly and 2) watching the show only and perhaps with English dub, I can understand why it would seem like e.g. the apology scene was Not It. However, I think those who find Horikoshi's writing and Bakugou's character development fascinating and well-executed shouldn't get brushed off as people who only care about looks, either. From a Japanese perspective, with keeping the Japanese societal contexts in mind, he is apparently a brilliantly portrayed character and the way others act around him is understandable.
Please take a moment to consider these thoughts: maybe he's got a redemption arc, just not the way you wanted. Maybe he's changed, just not the way you expected him to. His journey maybe spanned out differently than you wished, the message of his character arc was maybe not what you hoped for but it doesn't necessarily mean the message was wrong or that there was no message at all. Maybe he wasn't written in a way you wanted and maybe he didn't behave the way you wanted but this doesn't necessarily mean his writing or his character was bad.
Like, maybe Bakugou is such a fantastic character specifically because he was such an asshole at the start, completely at fault, and that is what makes his arc so compelling when he owns up to his mistakes. His redemption is so great because it doesn’t rely on garnering sympathy by giving him a Tragic Past, or by trying to blame his behaviour on someone/something else. There are some hints here and there, sure, but he is still fully at fault for his own behaviour and he acknowledges it, takes responsibility for it. The message of his journey is that redemption is not something you achieve by making people feel sorry for you or by some horribly painful "punishment" serving "justice"; it’s something you have to earn by actively working to change and do better. Forgoing the “misunderstood/tragic past” route, Horikoshi is making a statement that anyone can go down the wrong path, but that more importantly, anyone can also choose at any time to turn away from said path. There is only one requirement for doing so, and that is realizing that you’ve done wrong, and deciding that you want to change. Endeavour used to abuse his family and later tried to make things right. Gajeel used to do bad things like beating up Levy & Co., and later tried to make things right. Bakugou used to be an asshole to others, especially Izuku, and later tried to make things right. I see no difference; all three realized their wrongdoings and decided to change, which is wonderful. :)
I plan to make a whole video, stating how I feel about the series as a whole, so I'll be sure to go more in depth there, but as an abridged version, I'll say, I was looking at it not by a western lense, because I am aware it is Japanese first, that's obvious lol. But for me both are important. I think it's important to look at both, because Bakugo is ranked 3rd most popular in Japan. Many people in the comments bring up that I think he's a mean character and that's the sole reason I hate him, which is wrong. I don't feel he's handled well in MHA. I like abrasive characters if done well, like I stated in the video, because I like characters like Gajeel from Fairy Tail. I understand there are scenes that are good for Bakugo, but that's about it. He doesn't change his behavior at all. My 2 major issues are 1) I find his behavior annoying and heavily overused (that's more of a personal gripe granted), and 2) he's just poorly handled. He barely shows up in the final arc (despite Horikoshi pushing him to be as important as he was supposed to be) and he didn't fit the mold as rival and people think he did, because he is barely around. Again, I'll concede he has good moments, but those moments are squandered when you don't utilize it correctly. I'll be sure to be more in depth with it in my video, as I'm writing this being busy writing scripts for more videos lol, so I am not articulating as much as I'd like, and I cannot pull specific examples right now, but I'll be sure to do it on my MHA retrospective video coming soon in the next month or 2.
Hot take: I'd gladly take Mineta over Bakugo any day.
I mean I don’t get what people want from Bakugou to have a more satisfying growth from Bully to genuine hero. Isn’t the point of characters like Bakugou to start out the worst but then slowly by Season 3, the third season where the Jerkass character has their realization is when they becoming respectable?
I mean Bakugou at least suppose to resemble the kind of character growth Zuko went through so in terms of development should’ve rivaled or even surpass Zuko’s character growth in a way.
Cause he was an actual bad person that slowly grew into someone better, so what are the steps missing to make it much better?
@toadlord8594 I think you misrepresented Zuko's growth. Zuko and Bakugo have very different arcs. Zuko was not an evil or even bad person. Zuko never did anything particularly evil in the series. Sure he tried to capture the Avatar, as he was an abuse victim who mistakenly believes that's his ticket home, but he never did anything evil in order to achieve that goal. The worst he ever did was betray Iroh, but again, the whole point of Zuko was to show the difference between him and every other Fire Nation soldier. Zuko had honor and no one else did.
Bakugo is very different, the whole point of his growth, at least according to Horikoshi, was to redeem himself from childhood bully, to worthy rival, and we didn't get that from him. Bakugo barely changed as a character, and doesn't really fit as a rival either. He barely appears in the final arc for any meaningful character arc, and the most he did was finally showing moments of actual heroism toward the end of the series, but it came out of nowhere and felt forced instead of natural
@@Cybertechwerewolf You’re right I should’ve used Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z as a better example.
How about you compare and contrast how Vegeta did his redemption arc/journey better than Bakugou
@toadlord8594 I never watched DB, but from what I've been told, the arc is better, but I'm not sure. I'm not saying you need much to redeem a bully. But that goes to show how Bakugo was handled poorly. Hell, he's not the only character in MHA who is handled poorly. 90% of the female characters have no arc at all or are just sidelined, Bakugo is just one of the worst offenders
@@Cybertechwerewolf Personally I’d say Deku also has character issues as he obviously feels Goku levels of forgiveness and how he unrealistically doesn’t hold a grudge against him.
I mean I don’t think he can’t forgive Bakugou so easily but I guess the way it’s handled in series feels almost unrealistic
@@toadlord8594 Oh I 100% agree with you on that. There are just so many things with Deku that are handled poorly in MHA. But I can't hate the kid, cause he's still a bean, but I can definitely recognize his poor writing too, even if it's less agregious
I used to like him but not anymore like the writers really did fuck up his character like come on you can have character development but although it has to be right if the character just going to make up excuses because of their shitty actions and not just going admit that you are in the wrong that's not good writing and i hate the ship of bkdk aka bakugo x deku like it's not in the character and two it's toxic I'm still going to listen bakugo kamil song but i still won't like the character awesome video by the way
I completely agree
How the hell are people still shipping Baku with Deku? 💀🙏
@@LegitMay people are stupid and weird
@ Tell me about it 😭
I read the latest chapter, I think only 1 or 2 chapter left before MHA officially ends.
Bakugou appears! Just to propel deku to afo. Which is disappointing, I would be more happy if bakugou and deku beats afo together but alas it never happen.
Bakugou performance as a hero really sucks. Once the manga ends, people will re-read the manga or the anime and they will notice the problem with bakugou. I don't hate bakugou but I really don't like his status as a rival. Rivalry doesn't work well in MHA setting since heroes are judge by their accomplishment( ie beating heroes & saving lives) and a lot of bakugou haters point out his lack of villain fights.
MHA will probably end in three ways; first is deku becoming the no.1 hero and bakugou the no.2 hero which is awkward in many ways. Second is deku becomes the Symbol of hope and bakugou becomes the no.1 hero which is worst. The Third theory is my favorite, bakugou is the no.1 hero while deku is wandering around the world.
The final chapter officially confirm that one for all quirk is gone which means deku is quirkless again. Fortunately, almight gives deku a lot of support item which allow deku to be a hero but with limited role.
I don't know why horikoshi decide to make deku lost his quirk aside from making deku go back to its original version of being a quirkless hero.
*Spoiler warning just in case*
But yeah, I genuinely don’t like the ending no matter how many people are trying to justify it, I definitely see some points, but all in all, it’s extremely bittersweet in my opinion, and the fact everyone but Midoriya got a statue to honor them, and despite all that he’s done, Midoriya is just a quirkless teacher who has to be sidelined for 8 years and watching his friends be heroes and live his dream without him, and Bakugo didn’t change in the slightest despite going to rehab, what even is my hero anymore, I’m glad he inspired people but man I was really hoping for closure, but I guess it’s ok cause he’s Iron Man now, but there are so many things untouched and unanswered, oh well, not even gonna bother finishing the anime.
I’m being melodramatic I know, but man that ending made me want my years of reading my hero back lol
@@superherochestsymbol1032 the ending is somewhat ambiguous, I think horikoshi probably plans to do a sequel after a long vacation.
There are five plot holes that horikoshi fails to fix:
1. The origins of quirks
2. The quirk singularity doomsday that Dr. Garaki warned us about.
3. What happen to Dr. Garaki since he escape in the final arc.
4. Also what happen to the villain whom shirigaki shove star & stripe quirk?
5. And above all, deku dad never showed up.
@@superherochestsymbol1032 I also find bakugou status as deku rival pointless in the end. The biggest reason why bakugou is relevant to the story is his bullying deku and being deku rival. The ending made bakugou relevant only because of his bullying.
FACTS!!
I literally want to hear u say that now 😆
Bakugo is still one of the worst written characters in fiction lol
Him and Zuko are my least favorite,because their fans are crazy
amen lol
Most. Overrated. Character. Ever.
Change my mind.
@@OwenOgletree facts
Lol okay I'm familiar with your game now :'D Please kindly help a confused soul out, though!
I watched the whole video but still can't really understand what you mean by him being a 'horribly written' character? Could you please elaborate on why you think he's badly written? You praised the writing of Endeavour's character or Gajeel's... and yet somehow Bakugou's is not It in your opinion? How so? :0 Everything you praised Endeavour for in the video stands for Bakugou as well, does it not?
Happy new years! :)
Lol no not even a little. See the major difference between Bakugo and Endeavor is Bakugo never changes his behavior ever. He still see's others as beneath him, he is still aggressive towards everyone, and still gets angry at Deku for everything. I definitely explained this in my video but it feels as though the creator wants to give Bakugo moments of character development without actually changing how Bakugo acts because his western fans love it too much and would riot if his behavior changed. Endeavor acknowledges his past and is actively working to repent for them while Bakugo is in the same headspace he was when it came to his behavior since day one. No one beside Aizawa and All Might acknowledges that Bakugo's bahavior is unacceptable but the story has done nothing to actually do anything about it.
How's that? Is that elaborate enough or does your brain not comprehend opinions that aren't in your own safe space?
@@Cybertechwerewolf you deleted my longer comment two times already so I don't really hope you'll let this one stay but i'll try anyway ^^ I didn't and don't mean to be disrespectful to you in my comment(s), I asked a genuine question out of genuine curiosity because I felt like everything you said in your video about Endeavour applies to Bakugou as well. Thank you for taking the time to reply. In another comment below this I'm going to write out my opinion about the points in your reply, feel free to disagree or delete it again, obviously ^^
@@peugeotffy I haven't deleted any comments, so idk what your spouting. I have many people in the comments who disagree with me and I respond to them like I did here but alright. In fact since you're gonna lie, I'm just gonna ignore your comment. But feel free to reply more, cause it just helps the TH-cam algorithm. However, I will point out, this video must live rent free in your head if you keep coming back to comment
@@Cybertechwerewolf alright, then I apologize for accusing you, I just honestly don't understand what's going on. :0 Once again my comment disappeared after successfully posting it, so I thought I made an assumption, but turns out it's probably a TH-cam error? I'm sorry for falsely accusing you of deleting my comments, then! I don't know why all my comments except the previous one evaporate, I'm gonna try to paste a small section of it below and see what happens.
@@peugeotffy Hmmmm yeah I don't delete hate comments or any comments who disagree with me cause hate or not, it helps promote my video, so maybe it's TH-cam auto modding your comment, cause TH-cam sucks like that
Then why he got 1st place 9 times in a row
@@OmerFaruk-f1i cause the MHA fans are retards
@Cybertechwerewolf
So you are calling half of the world a retard
@Cybertechwerewolf
So you are saying half of the world is ret*ard
What most fans like about bakugo is his desirable traits: a very talented guy, constantly praise by others and freely speak his mind without consequences.
These traits is also what most japanese like about bakugo but unfortunately this is discourage by their society.
@@BoscoSal-ao
I like his comedy
His character development
Never giving up and always trying to be the best like naruto
Yes he is still angry and screaming , thats his personality
Bakugo is a terrible ass character
@@zmlovince6348 True
He was nice to deku he said sorry for stuff he did also f endeavor
@@LucciMills false, he is not nice to Deku. The Endeavor shade from Bakugo stans is crazy 🤣
@@Cybertechwerewolf endeavor was abusive it's a difference
@user-yy7pu4op5s "was" is the key word, Bakugo is still a piece of garbage
@@Cybertechwerewolf let say every one in the show could be a piece of garbage
@@LucciMills Yes, given certain perspectives. This is mine. Bakugo is the worst hero in the show
I feel like your mistaking likable with well written. Bakugou isn't likeable (at least at first) but he is well written. Him not being likable is an intentional character flaw not an issue in writing. And if you were to give Bakugou a tragic backstory it would make him more sympathetic and thus more likable. Witch completely gose against what the character was ment to be at the beginning of the story. And while it might seem like everyone in the fanbase loves him despite being intentionally written to be unlikeable the truth is most mha fans hated him for a long time and only started to like him after the second deku vs bakugou fight in s3 after we got more insight on his character. I would recommend Oceaniz video on bakugou if you want a better understanding of his character.
No, I'm not mistakening that at all, lol. In the video, I clearly state that it's both. He's not likable, nor is he well written. I can stand an abrasive character if he has a good redemption arc. It's shown very clearly that Bakugo has a superiority complex, which led to him bullying Deku. But any moment Bakugo gets of trying to redeem his character is squandered next time we see him, cause he simply acts the same no matter what. The reason I don't like him, but like other redeemed characters like Endeavor or Gajeel (from Fairy Tail) is they had a very clear character arc that felt natural to their character. Bakugo did not have this arc. Even his apology was weak and empty, cause he still made it about himself, and he still doesn't change how he acts. This is poor writing on Horikoshi's part as he definitely wants Bakugo to still act the same, yet still have an arc. That's not how character arcs work at all
@Cybertechwerewolf HUH!?!? he goes from telling Deku to off himself to respecting Deku as his rival to helping Deku master ofa despite it not helping him in any way to sacrificing himself for Deku to apologising to Deku and admitting that he was inferior to Deku all along. Just because his core personality hasn't changed doesn't mean he hasn't changed. Especially because his anger is most played for laughs now. And sorry to break it to you but a ton of character arcs are written like this. Zuko from atla and Vegita from dbz (which a lot of people say are two of the best character arcs of all time) are still mean and angry most of the time even after their redemption. Again just because their core personality hasn't changed that much doesn't mean they haven't changed. You don't have to like Bakugou (I personally like him now but it took me a long time to come around to him and he still isn't even in my top 5 favourites from mha) but he definitely isn't badly written.
@@mr-.- I really doubt Bakugo actually respects Deku, but his apology is objectively terrible. First he tried to justify his behavior, and secondly, he didn't even apologize for what the actual problem was. He said that rejected him and tried to beat him down, which is not true. He beat him up when he couldn't fight back, destroyed his property, and crippled his self worth. It gives off the impression he hasn't truly realized the severity of his actions as he puts them in a very mild light. The biggest problem with Bakugou's apology is that it focuses too much on himself and not his victim. It just doesn't actually put to light what the actual problem with Bakugo was. And this is entirely on the writing.
Also no, Zuko changed fundamentally from how he acted from season 1 during his redemption. After the team forgave him, he changed tremendously on how he acted. He was less angry and prideful. Bakugo still acts as though everyone else is beneath him. I wouldn't even care about his anger used for laughs, despite it being annoying and not funny imo, but that's not even what my complaint is about. It's about the lack of change. The sacrifice thing is, again, and attempt from Horikoshi to redeem Bakugo, and it fails, when the follow up is a half hearted apology.
@Cybertechwerewolf there's a difference between justifying and explaining. The definition of justifying is show or prove to be right or resalable. Bakugou doesn't do that at all in his apology. He never says that what he did wasn't that bad or something like that he never justified anything he did. He just explained it. He just gave deku a reason as to why he bullied him which he admits doesn't mean much but its how he really feels and he wants to tell him anyway. Also he did apologise for what the actual problem was the problem was that he bullied deku and he apologised for that. I don't really know what you mean by he said that rejected him and tried to beat him down which is not true. Bakugou didn't say that in any version of his apology so I don't know where you got that from or what you mean by it. He also never puts his actions in a mild light at all. While yes he doesn't list of one by one everything wrong he did to deku and apologise for them individually I don't really see the point in him doing that since both deku and the audience already know all that stuff and he apologises for all of it all at once at the end. Also almost nothing is objective in writing and bakugou has respected deku ever since s3 and dose so even more in the manga.
While zuko did massively change after his redemption he's still mostly grumpy and yells from time to time. Obviously not as much as bakugou but while he obviously changed alot his personality isn't completely different from earlier on in the series he's a lot less angry but in certain book 1 scenes he acts pretty similar to book 3. Vegeta on the other hand is still a pretty accurate comperason which you didn't mention at all in your response.
@@mr-.-even after the “apology” he still came off as a dick to deku. He doesnt even try to heal their friendship as if they even friends in the beginning
I dont think a real bullied person whole see the apology as wholesome. My problem with the apology is that it wasnt emotional enough
For me i wanted deku and bakugo to hug it out thoughout the series
i disagree because just bc bakugo was cocky about being a hero in some of the episodes but that don't mean he haven't changed in the other episodes like he changed to a good reason because he know that family and friend came first than hero work.
But he doesn't act any different at all. What he says doesn't reflect how he acts
@@Cybertechwerewolf But just because he mad in the outside but he could be soft on the inside really don’t know that do you?❓
@solynberry2411 Yeah, okay, but you don't know that he's soft on the inside either, do you? So we have to take how he acts at face value because that's all we're given. We aren't given a softer side at all. All he's ever done is act like an ass. This is that classic "I can fix him" mentality
@@Cybertechwerewolf bro he literally showed his classmates support when they feel like they going to give up especially Kirishima or denki and like when they try to get Deku back into au like Bach ago, was on this rampage about like talking about not giving up and coming back to au and stuff⭕️
@@solynberry2411 again there is a big difference between what you say and what you do. Actions speak louder than words. Regardless of what he says to people, he still 1, bullied a lot even into his UA days, and 2 acts high and mighty above all his classmates
I think Bakugo is great! Yeah he might be a bit aggressive and rude but I love his small character development from a mean bully to a sort of toned down version of that bully and more empathetic. Even though he doesn’t show his kindness and is often rude, he still puts others before him and protects his friends like protecting Kyoka Jiro from one of Class B’s attacks during training. He’s also very hilarious and funny with his madness like when he *SPOILERS* and Todoroki were being interviewed after they got their provisional licenses and Bakugo was just being rude all the time with his answers and then he was cut out of the video or when he was trying to win the the kids’ hearts in Season 4 🤣. He also wants people to put more effort. Now I know he might over exaggerate like during the Sports Festival and he was angry because he won, he was angry because he wanted it to feel special and not like an easy win. He wants his opponents to give him a challenge and put all their strength. Of course, he’s still the jerk and rude person he is to basically everyone, especially Izuku/ Deku but I think he’s well written and he’s the most comedic
Well it's not even him being aggressive. People can like abrasive characters, that's fine. Bakugo is just horribly written.
@@Cybertechwerewolf Yeah I can see why but I never noticed it anyway
I don't think we're watching the same mha 😭
You know series long character arcs are a thing, right? No? Okay. So is character development when a character completely abandons their core traits?
Whether Bakugo was an asshole or not, interacting with the world through aggression & brashness is just how he is.
This is proven in MHA's fantasy AU where Deku & Bakugo had a better & healthy history (no bullying) but they're core traits that we recognise them for, are still there.
Bakugo's approach to his goals are what you should be looking at. That's where the progression is. Just like any character. Shoto is still stoic, Endeavor is still stern & brooding, Deku is still a crybaby, etc. All these characters kept their core traits, but only Bakugo's core traits are seen as regression.
And I have to question if you actually were giving Bakugo any thought. But considering that you admitted that you don't bother when he's on screen kinda answers that question for me.
From the onset, Horikoshi established Bakugo as an unlikeable character that he wanted to grow into his own brand of heroism. But I guess, that's asking too much for some.
And btw, what has Endeavor actually done for his family besides throwing money at his problems. Endeavor doesn't start taking responsibility until the very final arc & even then his family had step in (again) to keep him from abandoning his responsibilities. Meanwhile Bakugo keeps himself responsible & did so in his mid-teens. He didn't wait until his 40's to sort out his issues.
@1999bazz I would agree with you on the series long character arc... assuming Bakugo had an Arc to begin with.
First off, Bakugos core trait being aggressive is fine, it's where he points his aggression, which almost every time, that aggression is towards the wrong people, and even Eraserhead points out that this behavior towards his peers is unacceptable. It's the fact this never goes away. I used characters like Gajeel as an example cause despite Gajeel and Natsu still bumping head from time to time, he did change his behaviors towards his peers, which Bakugo did not. Sure he apologizes to Deku, but this doesn't stop him from still putting his peers down, and refusing to be nice to the people who deserve it. It's perspective, which clearly something you do not have.
Also I never said I "don't bother" when Bakugo is on screen, idk where the fuck that came from. I said I hate seeing him on screen cause it's the same shit every time we see him, and it gets old.
Aldo, when the fuck did Endeavor throw money at his problems. You see (at least for intelligent people they should see) that Endeavor started seeing the weight of his sins after Bakugo and Shoto gained their provisional licenses, and he started trying to make up for what he did. Not once did it ever involve money, dolt. Also, when the fuck did he ever take responsibility for his actions (beside his "apology" to Deku)? Dude didn't even see any consequences for his actions, which Endeavor got in spades. Endeavor is far better written than Bakugo. Bakugo stan retards are the ones thinking Bakugo is even a little bit of a good character.
I can only assume this conversation will go nowhere as it always does for Bukustans, so I won't even bother responding after this. Have a nice day 😁
What makes bakugou disappointing is he fails to live up his hype as a hero and as a rival.
Bakugou has only one major villain fights and his rivalry with deku is pointless.
@@BoscoSal-ao that's probably my biggest issue with him. He's a waste of potential
@@Cybertechwerewolf I agree, if the series exploits bakugou flaws and weakness, it would be an interesting story .
Okay when the heck does Endeavor “throw money” at his problems to solve things?
His character development is amazing specially if you read the manga, he’s not badly written.
Hard disagree
@@Cybertechwerewolf Fair, but i feel like despite not liking his personality specially in the earlier seasons and how he treats everyone, his development and how he starts treating others better, specially Deku, and how he notices he’s not better than Deku or other people when he finally says “can i still catch up to you izuku” instead of saying he was stronger than him
@@felipekane9611 Well it took entirely too long to get there, and I doubt his personality will change much even after that. Cause for as much as the author wants to give Bakugo development, he really doesn't want him to act any differently
@@Cybertechwerewolf Well, im glad it took a few season so he could apologize, the build up was honestly good, seeing him act differently every season was honestly really cool after his apology, i feel like Bakugo’s personality won’t change, but the way he treats others definitely will, he will definitely have a major role in the vestige world with Deku in the manga, would be great to see how he gets after the war ends
@@felipekane9611 He acts the same every arc. He yells, insults, and belittles others. It's just now people don't call him out on his bullshit. If people acted that way in real life, no one would talk to him.
False
Unfortunately for you, I don't care, this is my opinion, so it cannot be false 🤷♂️🤣
@@Cybertechwerewolf really can be
@@KingNerdius Nope, that's why it's called an opinion lol
@@Cybertechwerewolf opinions can be wrong
@KingNerdius I know you're here just to troll, but I live for bullying trolls 🤣 opinions are literally meant to not be taken as fact, because they cannot be wrong because opinions also cannot be right, because it's a personal feeling. Do they not teach this shit in school anymore? 🤣