Seeding the Stars
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- The galaxy is a vast place with billions of potential new worlds for humanity to colonize, but interstellar space is so enormous that reaching even the nearest stars and planets by spaceship would take decades at best, and maybe many centuries. Even on arrival terraforming those barren planets would take just as long.
Two options for overcoming the immensity of space and time are the Seed Ship and the Data Ship, automated vessels able to colonize the worlds for us. We will examine those today, their advantages, limitations, and misconceptions, and variations of them we might use to seed the stars.
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Credits:
Seeding the Stars
Episode 166, Season 4 E52
Writers:
Isaac Arthur
Editors:
Alex Chamak
A.T. Long
Cooper de Ruiter
D. Hemanshi
Daniel McNamara
Darius Said
Edward Nardella
Evan Schultheis
Keith Blockus
Mark Warburton
Matthew Acker
Safia Postgate
Stuart Graham beyondnerva.wo...
Sigmund Kopperud
Producer:
Isaac Arthur
Cover Artist:
Jakub Grygier www.artstation...
Graphics Team:
Bryan Versteeg spacehabs.com
Darth Biomech www.artstation...
Fishy Tree www.deviantart...
Jarred Eagley
Jeremy Jozwik www.artstation...
Justin Dixon
LegionTech Studios
Mihail Yordanov
Sam McNamara
Serigio Botero www.artstation...
SpaceResourcesCGI
Audio Editing
Eric Schneider
Narrator:
Isaac Arthur
Music Manager:
Luca DeRosa - lucaderosa2@live.com
Music:
Markus Junnikkala, "Plotting a Course" www.markusjunn...
Paradox Interactive, Andreas Waldetoft , "Dark Minds" www.paradoxpla...
Lombus, "Hydrogen Sonata" lombus.bandcam...
Paradox Interactive, "In Search of Life" www.paradoxpla...
Serena Elis, "Between the Space" / serenaelis
Taras Harkavyi, "Alpha-and-..." www.discogs.co...
Paradox Interactive, Andreas Waldetoft, "The Birth of a Star" www.paradoxpla...
Ayreon, "The Theory of Everything, Part 1" / @arjenalucassen - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
"Diplomacy does not exist because people are nice and friendly, but because we often are not"...these videos are full of bad ass sentences like that. "No one is going to be casual about just deploying self-replicators somewhere in the Solar system to build whatever, because you could be building whatever". Loved it
Very true though isn't it.
But it's very reasonably straightforward. Of course diplomacy exists to address the problem that's clearly solvable by introducing diplomacy. Yes this is a recursive sentence, but it's important that this knowledge is a posteriori, as we had to become aware of the problem in the first place, and once it became obvious that applied diplomacy does solve some things, it painted a clear picture of how things were different before it was practiced. Henceforth "Diplomacy does not exist because people are nice and friendly".
In other words, there is no a priori reason to have diplomacy at all. You first need to stumble upon a wall, acknowledge its presence as an obstacle, only then you can expend the energy to try and climb over it. Thus "climbing over" IMPLIES a wall.
I'm just glad he's capable of having such a straightforward thought and constructing very concise sentences out of it. That's the only way to climb to the higher, more speculative, level of abstraction where he likes to dwell.
I thought you said "Bad sentences" and then was ready to get triggered and confused as to why you thought that was a bad sentence :')
This is new, the question is : if we were all nice and friendly, what make you think that we would have had the luxury to not rely on diplomacy ?
Never stop making these videos you are my favorite channel on TH-cam
Thanks for the likes!
He will be 90 and still doing this.
@@Skinnymarks If we push hard enough for life extention, I expect he could get well beyond 90, we've lost too many brilliant inspiring minds, it's time we fought back against that age that tries to claim us all
@@UNSCPILOT
I find a lot less is lost with death. Generally once people pass a certain age their beliefs become rigid and stop learning or admitting they are wrong.
There could be outliers. But generally once someone finds their space of comfort they don't change much.
plz stop making them at least to sleep, you can die from lack of sleep
Binge watch, or listen to in the car.
Congrats on 4 years of this!
I love this show. I am so excited for year 5!
@@richardavery2894 Amen Brother, amen! Thoroughly enjoy Isaac's work.
There is nothing I love more than a hot cup of tea, a snack and watching these videos. Thank you Isaac. You are wonderful.
Andrew Costello just what I'm doing now ☺
Very relaxing
Great content. I remember when your channel had 16000 subs and almost no animations. It was great then and even better now.
So he lost roughly 15,7 million subscribers?
My apologies for the mistype))))
true this has become my favorite channel on science and the future immediately and now over 1 year since then it still is
I always look forward to Thursdays. I wake up, get ready for work and either listen in the car, or save it for later when it's a really fascinating subject and requires my full attention. I especially appreciate that you give a heads up as to upcoming episodes.
DAM YOU! Now I want to watch the whole stargate series again.
I somehow missed that episode, didnt have dvr's so i may have missed a lot more then I thought.
I absolutely love it when you use examples from geeky sci-fi universes like Stargate SG-1, Warhammer 40 000 and such.
Thank you for your great channel!
Posted one hour ago. Six thousand views. You rock! Thanx again for another happy
Sorry I'm late sir. Had to get my drink and snack.
Happy Arthursday!
yep got the chocolate rice cakes!!!
Thanks, Isaac for your continued excitement-seeds about the future!
Happy & Prosperous 2019!
I am a regular watcher of your channel.This channel is simply the koh-i-noor. Thank you so much for the service you are doing by spreading knowledge and seeding dreams. Wish you 2 million subscribers in 2019 :)
Your show is like Cosmos or Nova for our era. I hope you know how cool what you're doing really is, man. Thank you so much.
Happy Arthursday and preemptive Happy New Year!
Having a bad day... on days like these I love to watch the latest and thought experiment a bit. I don't know why, but I find your voice relaxing. Happy anniversary it seems. Thanks for your channel and thoughts.
FOUR MORE YEARS!
Subjective time is preferable.
Can't wait to try the restaurant at the end.
Wow! 4 years? It seems like yesterday when you started this channel Isaac. Thanks for continuing your work, it is truly extraordinary
Yeah it both feels like way longer and just yesterday.
End of year 4 already? Wow. Have a happy year 5 PA everyone!
(Post Arthursday is my new calendar.)
Had my lunch and drink ready. Another great video Isaac and crew.
A Happy New Year to you all as well. 2019 will bring great things for us.
4 years?? That's awesome, congrats!
Wow, the animations get so good!!
I miss the snack and beverage reminder at the start of the episodes :(
The Naked Monk vital
Such concern for our well being.
@Steelrocker it's funnier you think that. It's not that we need it, it was just an endearing feature of the opening of his videos. Of course people know how to pause a video and grab a snack.
Nice stellaris music!
Stellaris music lets go great vid
Gave me a moment of "Wait a minute" when I heard it, hah.
Next sword of the stars music
It always makes me think I accidentally opened it with the music in the background, but much appreciated.
lol y'all always make me laugh with those comments. Stellar is music will keep coming
Its funny, I always listen to SFIA when I play Stellaris so have to turn off the soundtrack-and then this video comes along. I
This channel is great, thank you so much for your time and interest in all of this!
Merry christmas Isaac !
Thanks!
Looking forward to the next season Issac. Thank You for sharing Your knowledge and imagination with us.
Isaac my man, my favorite Thursday ritual is after work coming home, getting a drink and snack and watching the new episode. I have a feeling you’re going big places. If you ever have had the urge to write a sprawling sci fi epic book series, I think it would become one of the best out there. Sorry for the rambling message, just wanted to say hi and tell you that you’re awesome, and keep it up!
I think I've already gone to as big a place as I want, truth be told, I'm always still a little shocked the channel has grown to even this size. Though pleasantly so, pondering these topics years back I tended to take for granted very few folks would find them interesting. I did consider the novel approach in the past, but while I might kncok out a non-fiction book on one or more of these topics at some point (though I prefer the video medium) I'm really quite terrible at writing dialogue :P
Heyyy that's the Stellaris soundtrack! Great video once again and thanks a lot for another year of so much effort by the entire SFIA team
I think one of the most interesting outcomes of humanity seeding the stars is the possibility of speciation occurring due to the divergence of different colonies into distinct gene pools adapted to different environments and ecologies.
it already happens on earth, take canadians for example...
ArcherWarhound or carbon based intelligence vs silicon based intelligence
@@pedrogouveia4326 as a canadian i can confirm
If we don’t find any aliens or they’re rare or primitive, we’ll make our own through uplifting and genetic engineering, because just traveling with humans will get pretty damn boring...
@@metajarra Hello alien, nice to meet you.
I've been watching Isaac Arthur's videos since 9pm it's now 5:24 am. I found this channel about a month ago. Best TH-camr ever. Thank u Isaac for filling my brain with knowledge.
Hello best comment section on TH-cam.
For real
Enjoyed with a cup of eggnog! Excellent as always!
OMG! i F-ing love your videos man... (tho some of them are way to much for my little brain xD ) marry christmas and a happy new year isaac :)
Thanks, Happy New Year to you too!
My little brain too, but they make for excellent re-watching! Merry christmas and a happy new year to all.
one of the very few channels actually worth watching. please don't stop Isaac.
Keep up the great videos isaac!!! I've been here since 15k subs and still loving the videos!!!
Really love your channel man. keep up the great work!
Oh well, now I have to rewatch SG-1 all over again. Thanks. :')
Fantastic content as always, happy new year and heres to season 5!
I’m amazed that I have been here for 2 years. Happy 4 years of TH-cam!
Thanks for another great episode Isaac! I hope you had an awesome holiday!
I did, the sister and nieces came by, of course these days they're more into coffee and wine than hot chocolate, damn time for passing :)
only channel that was so good I had to support it on patreon....never stop making these videos
I use to smoke crack but I moved on to bigger and better things
That's awesome man, good job.
Big and better rocks hahhaa ayyyyyyy
Jk
More like seeding my youtube's history with Isaac's videos hahaha
Four years on and still getting better with each and every episode... happy new year
one of the best transitions to sponsor advertisement! :)
I might actually check those courses..
Oh my god, I just got done watching Stargate SG-1! Ahhh, great reference!
A happy new year to you and yours as well, Isaac
Love that the backtrack is also in stellaris makes me feel more evolved than I am currently
Much better than tv! Many thanks for making these videos it must be a lot of work
I allways download your videos Sir.This time thats not possible.I hope i can next time.I have no wifi or tv connection and your voice helps a troubled mind fall to sleep,seeds manny dreams and sooths a lott of worriesThank you for all you do
Thank you for this wonderful season finale! I'm one of those pushing the "commission" that our job is to get life throughout the greater cosmos where it belongs :) What else can I say? "A living world is better than a dead one!" I think you covered most of the probable angles, including the advantages of big generation-hybrid ships as a real spacefaring civilization, because a living ship is also better than a dead one...
There's a funny thing about being a real spacefaring civilization with those big, self-sufficient, easily reproduced ships. Once you have that fleet developing for yourself, what use are planets but to build more ships? Life on planets is a pain. Once in a while, you will find one worth seeding, a new proto-earth to garden, to see what may someday arise, new cousins. The main civilization will still be on ships, liberated yet networked, a vast organism spread thinly throughout the domain -- a rippling, dappling superconsciousness.
Such a domain will not race but creep across the stars, curious but wary, patient but inevitable, spreading and conserving on a timeline of billions. It will be quiet, just occasional flickers of info-packets traded directly from system to system, cluster to cluster. It would be invisible to our scopes not because it's hiding, but because it's efficient, operating not in egoistic shouts but organic finesse.
We may be the product of such a domain ourselves, a fruit in their garden, and never know it until we reach back out to them, adding our distinctiveness to the whole. Let us put the best of ourselves into that effort... just in case :)
Issac Arthur talking how to colonize a new planet / system while Stellaris music plays in background... :)
P.S: it would be awesome if Stellaris had "tutorial videos" for various technologies/ways to develop civilization written and narrated by you, i think folks would learn something and got into the game and enjoy it more XD
P.P.S: ..whilst at Stellaris, i dont remember if you mentioned somewhere this but would a wholy biologicaly developed star fareing civilization be viable ( ala Prethoryn Swarm in stellaris that are a kind of "biological borg" ). It does not need to be alien, we dont know how biological evolution can get in few millions of years ( Bryan Aldiss Hothouse .. ).. maybe if humans get radically changed or viped out. Is there some physical and biological ( well and technological with genetic manipulation ) basis for civilization / race / species like that ?
I can't see it arising naturally, but I don't see why it couldn't be possible to make sufficiently large organisms that are essentially less efficient spaceships.
I think theres is a fungus based species in sots2 only missing FTL
"Sees SFIA video"
"Start colonizing systems to aggressively deny territories for others."
I appreciate the paradox music, thank you Issac!
As always a top notch production. Once again I contemplate immortality....
You don't need mind-uploading tech or human-level AI to raise babies on a planet where everything is provided to the first several generations.
A sub-human-level AI could sing nursery rhymes and keep the kids civilised. They don't need to know that robo-mom and robo-dad don't actually have human emotions until they figure that out themselves - at which point they'll have very real siblings they've grown up with for all their lives as family. Not literal siblings, of course. Genetic diversity.
How would they learn to speak with nobody to talk to?
@@davidwuhrer6704 google AI (but more developed of course)
yet again with the stellaris sountrack? Nice!
I love that the background music is similar to Stellaris menu background music
Great video & great background music (stellaris). Now need to go make a SFIA civilization!
That was a very lovely song at the end.
I've been waiting for your coverage of this particular topic for months. Well done. The upcoming Panspermia edition in January should give further insight into how mankind can ultimately fulfill it's destiny in the universe. Many thanks! Vielen dank! Spasiba! Gracias!
The best part of my Thursdays.....Congratz on the 4-year run man....here's to another 4 and more
Enjoyed it as usual. Thanks!
I think I am on the 5th run, on watching your videos again(yes ALL OF THEM :D ). And I still love them.
I like to think that Mankind is the sensory organ of the universe, and that we exist to view the wonder, beauty, and splendor of awesome CGI renderings of outer space nebulas and stuff.
Make those 4 years be 40 years!!!
Good job, man. Good job.
Have a great 2019!
Been following you fro the very beginning, since the very first videos about Fermi's paradox!
Happy that the channel had so much success!
P.s lovely choice of soundtrack, Stellaris OST Is amazing!
A happy, joyous and prosperous new year to you
I just think our galaxy alone is so vast and rich with resources there will be enough for everyone that it will be beneficial to help each other than war on each other.
Isaac Arthur's channel is proof Thanos was an idiot.
One track minds... eventually go off the rails...
No doubt cooperation and altruism are more beneficial in the long run.
But this peaceful and cooperative life form is just such an excellent building material.
This video is a great summary of this year's videos. Happy 4 years, good sir
Happy new year and thanks for 4 great years of content...
Merry Christmas and a happy, healthy new year to you all! Love this channel!
You talked a lot about shielding a ship at high speeds during this episode, I’d like to see an in depth episode about shields in the future. How can we deal with flying through a dense cloud of dust without big buckshot holes in the hull if we never figure out some sort of Star Trek-like energy field that repels rock as much as it does metals? Several meters thick hulls seem like a really inefficient and wasteful way of dealing with these problems and could be insanely costly, it could seriously hinder trade and make it so there never really are civilian-run cargo ships, only government and corporate ships, which is kind of a bummer.
There's the forcefields episode and the interstellar travel challenges episode for that.
Isaac Arthur You are a *stellar* human being... get it?! But seriously you’re awesome man, I’ve been listening for probably two years by now and you keep the good work up so much I’m unaware you’ve got videos ready for my hungry brain to absorb just waiting for me. So thanks, for doing excellent work educating and entertaining, as well as being *down to earth* enough to answer a dumb question.
Ending the 4th year with SFIA, thank you sir
Eres un Maestro Isaac. No te mueras nunca!!
Greetings from Chile!🇨🇱
No notification from TH-cam. Thank god for fb. Good stuff as usual Isaac
I'm loving the graphics!
Great Work Isaac!
Congratulations for the anniversary. Thank you!
Esta fue una clase de construir universos en nuestras mentes!
Bien hecho Professor Isaac Arthur :)
Thank you for another year of great content. Liked it before watching.
Best channel ever
@28:43 A planet-sized Jurassic park? So like a Jurassic... world? I chuckled at this because it reminded me of the old Simpsons episode when Milhouse exclaimed "Whoa, it's like Speed 2, but with a bus instead of a boat!" :D
Another excellent video Isaac......have a happy new year.
"If you _can_ do it, you probably will." Wildly anthropocentric right there. Discussing the Fermi Paradox with added Transhumanism is an exercise in futility.
The above could be rephrased as, "If you _can_ do it, _we who very much can't_ should really stop guesstimating what you will or will not do."
Dirty thoughts entered my mind, I was thinking of different stars for a second 🌟🤔
Panzer Raven hyeehyeehyeehyeee (Lenny face)
Starf*cker by Nine Inch Nails
@@Mello. www.lennyfaces.net/
for all your lenny face needs
Thank you Mr Isaac
I would want to experience the journey and the terraformung process thou.
Cheers for the years work Isaac!
Your videos are always a pleasure, Isaac.
Thanks Tim!
BOY MY SNACK IS ALREADY HOT LETS DO THIS
Same lol...
I already ordered a quantum cheeseburger for today.
I love the thought of all the die hard fans of Isaac sitting down at the same time with a drink and a snack to engage in one of our epic journeys to the stars.
giggity
@@ithemba keep in mind some of Issacs fans are Aneroxic and its slightly offensive to talk about your cheese burgers while I eat my water.
Enjoy the ending music on this episode very nice thank you.
Thank you. Congratulations. Lots of happy new years.
Hope to meet you one day, perhaps in an artificial landscape simulated on a computer inside a gardening ship, speeding up to distant stars.
Your videos rival so many sci-fi concepts, it's spectacular.
Always interesting and fascinating topics.
Yes!
Yes! Yes! Yes!
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*YES!*
great episode Isaac, heve to rewatch it to get all details :)
The transfer of conciousness from flesh to machine will be revolutionary, cybernetic brains more advanced than our own. Reminds me of Dune and Total Annihilation :)
Thank you! Have a great new years eve!
Those little droids walking around on the spaceship (17:15) reminded me of Huey, Dewy, and Louie on _Silent Running._
Now there's a films I havne't watched in a while
Ends with a bang.
Seriously, though, I really liked Joan Baez singing _Rejoice In the Sun._
Happy early New Year Isaac. Still my fav channel.