@@maryangel4387 Hurrem play in game of thrones with inteligence and prudence but additional risk on risk and finaly she not control her strategy, her plan turn against her heirs/childrens and it's her children who suffer more. Hurrem lost her mind move by move from start of this tv show to the end.
I think Hurrem was actually sad and confused about this whole situation. Of course she wanted Mustafa to die for the sake of her own children, but then later, she realized that this particular event sealed an important fact: Suleyman was capable of killing his own children. That’s why this was a constant reminder to her that, despite Mustafa’s death, she had to protect Selim and Bayezid from his father. I think that stress combined with the mourning of Mehmet and Cihangir ended up killing Hurrem.
Exactly. Hurrem always wanted Mustafa to be dead since he was a boy and this whole 'I wish you were my son' to him was just cheap gaslighting and manipulation from her part. I agree with you that Hurrem realized that after Suleiman killed Mustafa he would be capable of killing her own children too (irl he had killed Bayezid for treason).
That scene where they are all arguing in the hall.... That scene really got to me more than any other.... It was so realistic and unscripted... It was just so REAL.
If that's the case why wasn't she by valide sultan's side since the begin? Since episode 64? When valide sultan started ruling the harem , she outranked everyone.
Funny how the first part of the clip is basically Hürrem and Rüstem saying they killed Mustafa and the second part is denying everything and claiming innocence 😂
Mahidevran did that too. At least hurrem sultan will admit it to Suleiman , mahidevran never admitted it. Also, it's mainly mahidevrans fault that Mustafa was executed. Bad upbringing.
@@Aliaakaramm hey, episode 130 ending Suleiman asked her if she took part in mustafas execution, she said she took part in this 'i did what was necessary suleiman, don't look for innocence' We see hurrem sultan's answer in episode 131 start where Suleiman remembers what she told him. In ep 130 they don't show the answer, only suleimans question, check episode 131 start for the answer.
@@DimSK. multiplated you mean not admitting sorry again 😁 She didn't tell him I fake letters to make you take your sons life What she said was you are God on earth something close to that which is multiplated not admit
Truth, but Beyazid should tell his mother to protect him. And it was the time that Hurrem should choose one of her sons, in order to have him protected and to make sure that he would take the throne. He is accusing her for Mustafa's execution, because he heard that she had a relation at Mustafa's death. As for Beyazid, if Rustem was killed by Hurrem, when she had the chance, Beyazid now would be Sultan. After all, Beyazid had Husein and Atmaca, so his victory would be glorious, he would be the ruler without doubt.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 haha , even if Rustem didn’t betray Bayezid , he would have lost ultimately as he was hot headed and lacked patience. Hussein and Atmaca are good soldiers. Soldiers can fight bravely but beureaucrats have the final say in the long run...
@gunescelik4207 he was not. He may have not been submissive to Suleiman but he was not a traitor. Hurrem bots trying their best to defame him but still after years the truth is known.
Hurrem was right about one thing, everyone is blaming her for Mustafa's death and she def had put bad thoughts and suspicions about him in Suleiman's mind ( which Mustafa did help her by being an unruly son and governor from time to time) But, in the end, it was Suleiman who ordered the execution
@@satriorama4118 Suleyman also promised not to kill Ibrahim and we have seen the result. And maybe he did, but who knows if Mahidevran would not have done something on her own side.
Hurrem always said to Mustafa ‘i wish you were my son too, that way we wouldn’t have faced each other in this war’, Mahidevran sealed her son’s fate with the upbringing she gave him.
Don't be this much lame! Mahidevran did the best upbringing of a sehzade in her era...it was hurrem who poisoned her childrens mind..and also behind Mustafa's greatness and justice.. Mahidevran's upbringing is responsible
@@TanAlaKho it was Mahidevran who poisoned her son's mind all those years and supported his rebellion against his father and Sultan. Hurrem had always taught her children to love and protect eachother, to be respectful, and to bear the consequences of their actions. It was Mustafa's own fault for his downfall, and Mahidevran's too. Hurrem just opened Suleiman's eyes to what was really happening.
@@lujaynmigdadi Mahidevran and Mustafa himself are responsible for their downfall, being greedy for power and rebelling against the Sultan. Hurrem just opened Suleiman's eyes to the truth.
Everybody! Please give Mirimah a round of applause. Hurrrem Sultana tried so many times to kill Sehzade Mustafa and failed, but her daughter tried only once and accomplished it.
Credit to Mahidevran as well🤣🤣 . She had managed to kill Mehmed on her first attempt. Previously, everything she did was unsuccessful and easy to suspect..
Bayezid : Don't touch me, mother My brother's blood is on your hands Also bayezid : Validem, i need your support behind me. So irirating , he needs his mother only when he is in trouble
When Mahidevran does evil things: No one judges or blames her. But when it come from Hurrem: Every bad word comes out of their mouths. That why Hurrem once said. Her enemy only see her cruelty but they never realized their cruelty to her. And then they keep pretend innocent and victim :)
Based on history, hurrem's son die because of disease not mahidevran, so the movie just make the death of hurrem's son more dramatic, but there rumours in real story that mustafa death could be hurrem's plot with rustem.
Ibrahim pasha is executed Hurrem: I understand your pain sultana but I have nothing to do with it Şehzade Mustafa is executed Hurrem: I understand your pain sultana but I have nothing to do with it
Surprising that no one tried to ensure Mehmet' safety. None of these gone mad after Mustafa' death thought it would be prudent to provide cover to his family! How easily Mehmet was taken away was horrid! Everyone is screaming at Hürrem but no one defied the sultan to rescue little Mehmet. How could that insane sultan even kill his own grandson is unimaginable... Hürrem and Suleiman deserved the trauma of Cihangar' death.
@@saraali1538 mahidevran is the one who began this game by poisoning hurrem when she was pregnant, and then after selims birth she kept on telling hurrem that it doesn't matter how many sons she has, what matters is who gets to the throne. She literally left hurrem no choice.
They deserved both Mehmet's death, because they killed Ibrahim Pasha and Hatice Sultana and now they deserved it once more with Cihangir's death, because they killed Mustafa. That's because God was greater than them, so they should not laugh at the others, because the fire who had the name of Hurrem Hatun, now she burned to asshes and she destroyed both others and herself together. Lesson about Hurrem and Syleiman: a) don't prepare the tomb for the others, because there is a possibility that you will fall in your trap and b) don't trust traitor dogs and hyenas like Zal Mahmud and Rustem Pasha, but stay in the loyal ones, just like Mustafa, Ibrahim, Valide Hafsa Ayse Sultana (Syleiman's mother), Mahidevran Sultana, Hatice Sultana, Lutfi Pasha, Ferhat Pasha, Kara Ahmed Pasha, Fatma Sultana, Beyhan Sultana, Atmaca, Taslicali Yahya Bey, Matraksi Nasuh Effendi, Prince Beyazid, Prince Cihangir, Mihrunissa, Sah Sultana and Gülfem Hatun.
@@richajain7753 that's true, the only truth is who gets the throne. Hurrem had 4 Princes, she lost the three and Selim took the throne (it happened accidentaly). Mustafa was the Heir Prince, he was the bigger son of Syleiman and the future of the Empire, so he had more chances and more possibilities to take the throne. Neither Hurrem liked this or not, that doesn't means nothing. Mahidevran just said that her son was closest to the throne and that was the truth. This was the law and the laws remain as they have (the most of the times). But Hurrem cheated. And she payed for that with Mehmet, Cihangir and in the end with her own life. Even the illness of Syleiman was another punishment for both of them and more for Syleiman.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 i don't agree with you, Mustafa was never the crown prince, because in muslims all sons have equal rights, read the Ottoman history, a lot of times younger princes got to the throne, even though the eldest was alive and perfectly capable, just because the younger one had more support. Also hurrem had more chances to get to the throne since she had three candidates to the throne wheras mahidevran just had one. Also please don't talk about hurrem being punished by the death of her sons, because that's how Ottoman Empire worked, sultan had a lot of children and only one of them makes it to the end the rest always die, whether in the fight for the throne or after loosing it. This happened in every single generation of Ottoman Empire even before hurrem and continued later on as well. Same thing happened with Suleiman's brothers too they all died in the fight for the throne and only he made it alive.
I wonder how would Hatice and Sah react upon hearing about Mustafa's execution. I am sure that nothing could have stopped Hatice from trying to eat Hurrem alive upon sight. Perhaps even the ice cold Sah would join in this attempt
yes of course.. Hatice Sultan love so much Mustafa and she will auto become crazy and attack Hurrem, when she heard this news. Hatice cannot control her emotion like her other sister
In this scene, hurrem sultan realizes that she's now valide sultan, war ended and she won. As she promised, one by one will pay for what they done. Her last enemy, mahidevran, has been eliminated. Fatma, gulfem and everyone else should accept it and go away. No matter what they did, hafsa, Ibrahim, hatice, shahuban, mahidevran, fatma, gulfem, hurrem sultan is elevated to valide sultan title and secured the throne for her children.
Hurrem never was Valide Sultana, she was only Haseki Sultana. The title of Valide Sultana had been given when a Sultana sees one (when she lives) of her living son to take the throne. Hurrem never seen no one of her sons to take the throne, neither Selim, nor Beyazid or Mehmet. Hurrem wasn't Valide Sultana, all the mothers called "Valide", but the title "Valide Sultana" was only given to Syleiman's mother, to Mihrimah Sultana and to others. Hurrem was just Haseki Sultana. Neither in Real History, nor at the serie was Valide Sultana and this was a tradition, that means that Hurrem maybe became Haseki Sultana, but she died before Selim take the throne at 1558. Selim took the throne at 1566, so she never became Valide Sultana.
Hurrem was so cold blooded person. But some of her kids were really good. Bayezid, Cihangir were good and they had good brotherly relations with Mustafa
She killed Mustafa because of her children and Bayezid was too stupid to understand it. If Mustafa had ascended the Throne he would have killed them all including Bayezid.
Ín the real She was a heartwarming people. I saw the New information about Prince Mustafa. He wanted the Throne ín the real. And he szent a letter to Tahmas sah. Ín the real he wrote the letter not Hurrem. A turkish woman made a video of the truth.
I don’t think people understand that if Musatafa becomes sultan then hurrem sons would have killed because at the time whoever becomes the next sultan he has to kill his brother. This was a law continue until Ahmed 1 (1603). This more than about having control or power, this was life and death.
As if Mustafa not becoming a Sultan saved Hurrem's sons. Selim killed Beyezid in series. Even in real life her own sons turned against eachother and Bayezid was executed.
Are you happy now? Huh? Before you ask to Hurrem. Ask first Mahidevran, how her reaction when hear mehmed death? Did gulfem think Hurrem still can calm and laughed after her mehmed died?
@@Aliakaramm Yes, I admit hurrem sent efsun to poison mustafa. But as for the death of the efsun, she died during the abortion. Sooner or later Valide sultan will know too. So, not the hurrem who gave the order to her abort.
@@Aliakaramm So, before efsun come, who was the first that attack and try to kill Hurrem. (I surely you will never admit it and try to twist) Hurrem will not hostile to them first if them was not against and threat her. In season 1 and season 2 : Hurrem be threated In season 3 and 4 : Time for hurrem get revenge It fair right?
So dramatic how they stood their shrieking and accusing Hurrem and Rustem, when none of their hands were clean! How many times did they plot to kill Hurrem? Fatma killed her husband, and tried to kill Hurrem. Gulfem fully supported all of Hatice's plans to kill Hurrem. The facts are that IRL Mustafa, like Ibrahim, was solely responsible for his own downfall and death at the hands of the Sultan. Mustafa's behavior with the Janniseries alone was treason, add to that his conspiring with the Venetians and making promises to them about what he'd do for them if they supported him to become sultan over his siblings (while Suleiman was alive.) He should have been smarter.
"Im not my father"- sultan Suleiman my advice - always keep your word, always keep your honor, take care of your soul, take care of the poor people and animals and never have the blood of your children on your hands
Those who dig graves for others fall in themselves.Hurrrem dig grave for Mustafa but her son will fall into it. Hurrem made Suleiman kill Mustafa.. As it is said, beginning is always the hardest.. It was very difficult for Suleiman to execute Mustafa, but it will become easier for him to give up on Bayezid..
Bwahahahahah! SHOSHO bot, Hurrem never made Suleiman killl Mustafa, he killled Mustafa himself as he knew he was liiar! Hurrem’s son never fell in grave, she lived happy life. Her son became Sultan! Her daughter became Valide Sultan! Mahidevran killled Mehmed- Hurrem’s son and she paid for it! KARMA! Cryy now! 😂😂😂
What are you blllabbing you🤡🤡 Mahidevran killled Hurrem’s son Mehmed and her son Mustafa paid for it! KARMA! Suleiman was Magnificent and Kanuni- Lawmaker. No one ever made him do something! He took decisions himself! He warned Mustafa to stop lying and disobeying rules in Episode 101 and many times! Mustafa got what he deserved! Hurrem’s son became Padisah and Hurrem’s daughter became Valide Sultan! She WON! Your 🐍🐍 Mahidevran paid for everything! Hahahaha!
Hahahahaha! Mustafa’s bot, Hurrem never made Suleiman the Magnificent kill Mustafa you🤡🤡 👉🏼Suleiman warned Mustafa milllion times to stop lying, crossing limits and disobeying rules- go see Series 101 and other episodes, but Mustafa continued liies, he dug his grave himself as Ibrahim did. 👉🏼 Mahidervan killled Mehmed- Hurrem’s son. She dug grave for Mehmed but her son Mustafa fell in it. KARMA!
Actualy both Fatima,Gulfem and Hurrem are all right in this seen and you can take severol things out of this and other seens. 1:Yes Hurrem was playing a game if survival with Mustafa and did manige to do the intiges that resolted in his execution. 2:However as Hurrem pointed out it was Suliman who orderd the execution of mustafa,ironicly later on he would be behind Byazids as well. 3:Both Mustafa and Hurrem knew in their last meting were it was headed and one had to die and it was clear nether of them rejoysed in that prospect and Hurrem did not rejoyse or enjoy her victory or Mustafas death infact quite oppesit and her coldness in public was her putting up a wall to not brake down,and the balcony seen were she recalls Mustafa and brakes down shows that
Whether in real life or this series, Suleiman had to kill Mustafa for his own safety. Their dynasty has a history of the son usurping the throne and killing their father in the process. Naturally Suleiman doesn't want that.
Did the old boy have genuine facts that his son was going to usurp? In the histories there is no record of that, only suspicion because Jannisaries respected him, that a plan was afoot. Just awful clinical elimination of a possible threat, but seems Mustafa was a good man & loyal brother, but the question is whether would he eliminate his male kin after a time when crowned, via pressure from his mother or others?
@@hoolydooly5799 from what I read Mustafa did have secret meetings with the Persians to help him get the throne. They were still in the planning stage when he was executed
@@carmelagarin8645 Can you provide citation. There is no documentation from Persian Saffafid records, and you would think they would have as The Saffafids & Ottomans were in border conflict for generations not unlike like France & England were for centuries, and any intrigue against Sulieman by Mustapha's faction would be gloated about in chronicles prior abnd after his murder even if untrue they could spread gossip to get back to Sulieman to make him feel his reign could be besieged/usurped by his son.
@@hoolydooly5799 Your “pure” Mustafa lied Suleiman many times, didn’t obey rules, revolted against Father, married and hid his marriage for years from him. Also, in real history, he had correspondence with Persians- his father’s enemies, to get their support for throne and bribed janissaries for support. And FYI he had his Tughra made. Turkish historian Murat Bardakçi and his team found about a manuscript notebook belonging to Mustafa, on the first page being Tughra that says “Shah Sultan Mustafa, Khan son of Suleiman, victorious forever.” Arrogant much? According the Empire law only Sultan could have Tughra, no Sehzade ever! If a Sehzade made a Tugra the penalty was death! So sit down and don’t tell us stories here about “pure” Mustafa. He was not angel
She is a total hypocrite. Her crocodile tears here means zilch. She spews garbage about Mustafa, accusing him of being a rebel and disobedient son and then in later goes on to hide Bayezid's moronic plan of killing Selim and goes as far as supporting Bayezid against Selim in full contradiction to her mother's wishes. Hurrem did what she had to and I can respect the fact that she did everything to protect her children. Mihrimah on the other hand falls for any numpty that walks, disrespects her husband, actively conspires against her brothers and then has the gall to act as if Selim is this big terrible evil who is a curse to the dynasty.
It's so interesting how Fatma and Gülfam as well as Hürrem's own sons think that there would have been not blood shed if mahidevran and Mustafa 'won'... Also technically speaking it's Mahidevran and Ibrahim Pasha who killed Prince Mustafa by setting him on the path of opposing Hürrem. With Mahidevran threatening Hürrem with her sons lives and going so far as to cause Mehmet's death...
Lol what was Mahidevran supposed to do? Let Hurrem win with no resistance and tell Mustafa to support her even though she had sons of her own? When Ottoman Law declared that each sultan should kill his brothers upon ascension? You're telling me that if Mahidevran had been the perfect little Hurrem supporter then Mustafa would've survived? Ooh Mahidevran killing Mehmet is such an unforgivable sin when Hurrem tried to poison Mustafa repeatedly alongside murdering (or attempting to murder) every woman that caught Suleiman's fancy, but she is immaculate, isn't she? Perfect Hurrem who never does anything wrong. Grow up. This is not a Disney movie, every single character kills and harms for power, for love, for survival.
OMG! Gulfem has the audacity to speak and talk like that. Hurrem should have slapped her. And Fatma is shedding tears right now. All these years she was busy chasing young boys.
@@DimSK. Even Hurrem was a Sultana, slapping another Sultana, that is a great sin, a terrible atrocious sin and the punishment is death by beheading. No one (even Sultana) had not the right to slap another Sultana. Being a queen, doesn't means that should slap another queens. All the ones who slap a royal member, even if was Hurrem to another member, like Hatice or even Ibrahim Pasha, that means that he/she could lose his/her head.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 yep. No wonder Hurrem hid her part in Hatice's beating. She wouldn't hide it if it wasn't necessary. But if anyone and especially Suleiman was to find out that Hurrem beat Hatice up...well, her red haired head would be mounted on a spike
Mirimah: *steals mustafa's stamp* now Mustafa will be exiled to the other side of the empire and will never bother us anymore Mustafa: *dies* Mirimah: waaaaaa I didn't expect this outcome
Hurrem is also a horrible person but she is not completely evil, she did crimes for her survival and revenge, if Mahidevran hadn't threatened her at the beginning that she will eliminate her and her children if she'll take power, maybe Hurrem would not be as cruel. Gulfem is a crazy woman too, she plotted with royals many times against Hurrem, what did she think was going to happen after, did she think that Hurrem was going to let it go like that and let them bully her or threaten her in physical or mental way? Of course what Hurrem did towards Mustafa is an unforgivable crime but Fatma also used innocent Huricihan for her dirty games, not thinking of her safety if something goes wrong, it's totally ok for Fatma to use children as a shield. And no one is brave enough to say the same what they said to Hurrem to Suleimans face because if they'll do that, they'll get punished, most of them are cowards.
@@farhanaratree87 Hurrem didn’t killl Mustafa, Suleiman did you cllown ahahahahahah! And she never killled her sons- Mahidervan killled Mehmed-Hurrem’s son!
@@farhanaratree87 what are you blllabbing, Mustafa’s bot? Hurrem never killled Liiar and Traiitor mustafa! Suleiman did! And she never killled her sons. Mahidervan killled innocent Mehmed you trrrassshoooo
@@farhanaratree87 lmaoooo what??? Hurrem never killed mustafa, bot! Suleiman killed him for his liies! Hurrem never killed her sons. Mahidervan killled her son Mehmed! What show are you watching you bot? Hahahahaha
And as usual (as they do with fratricide), for the sake of drama, they pretend that filicide isn’t something that is allowed for the sake of the oh-so-precious dynasty.
Don't touch me The way beyazid treating hurrem Like solimam treated his mother excatky My brothers blood on your hands Beyazid admit he knew everything
Hahahahaha! Bayazid never disrespected Hurrem and Suleiman never disrespected his mother you🤡🤡 You are such an embarrassment when you talk to your fake account Blossom Roses lmaooo!
Я думаю у Хюррем такое шокированное лицо потому что она до последнего момента не верила, что султан может убить своего сына. Она поняла, что он также может убить и других сыновей и её саму. И она чувствовала опустошенность законченной битвы за корону ( как и Селим будет чувствовать себя пустым после того как убил Баязида). Хюррем жалела Мустафу как человека, но убила его как мать своих детей. Для Хюррем это было тяжелое решение, а Махидевран улыбнулась довольно, когда ей доложили о смерти Мехмета. Махидевран более жестока, чем Хюррем.
1:12, 4:30 Mustafa loves their siblings very much ❤he was amazing brother that's why miharmah become sad 😢 Mustafa deserve to be next sultan he was very kind and wise
Can't help but think had the right people like gulfem choose hurrems side earlier they mayhave prevented Mustafas death. Loyal to hurrem or not she wouldn't have helped kill a prince. Just like safiyes daughter in the kosem series
Mmm I'm not so sure about that. Fraticide was such a common thing in the Ottoman empire. I don't think Gulfem being on her side would have changed Hürrem's plan.
One of the things that irks me sometimes about seeing this scene is that, if the roles were reverses everyone would be celebrating. If Hurrem's sons (and by extension Hurrem herself most likely) would have all gotten killed then Fatma would be celebrating. But because Hurrem was smart enough (regretfully so I might add) to play this game of thrones and win the security of her sons (to a point because now is Selim vs Baheyizd) they all are angry with her.
The only problem for her here was realising that sultan can kill his own son. Yes it's a bit different case since Mustafa wasn't already favourite one and his mother was Mahidevran, yet sometimes even Hurrem couldn't stop Suleiman from making decisions that she wasn't expecting
The audacity of this comment section to defend hurrem🤢 although Suleiman is to be blame more. No matter how much mustafa was unruly, he was the most deserving one, out of the rest of suleiman children. The decline of the empire started after hurrem blood[ drunken selim] sat on the throne.
Mahidevran got Mehmet Killed Hurrem got Mustafa Killed I blame Mahidevran for both deaths. Firstly, she killed Mehmet for no reason, Mehmet was such a kind hearted and cared for Mustafa and Mahidevran the most. Secondly, the reason why Mustafa was killed was because of his stupidity and disrespect. Hurrem brought Mehmet up as a sweet, nice guy. Mahidevran raised Mustafa terribly! She always tried to make Mustafa hate Hurrem and his own brothers!
@@mirelarujovic7058 The people who set Mustapha up were his mother and himself. Both in the series and real life, they shouldn't have counted their chicken before they hatched. They automatically thought they had the throne in their hands but fell on their faces.
This is to me the big problem when making historical films or TV series. There is too much untruth, i.e. there is a lot that the writers make up to make it interesting for people, and then history gets all mixed up with imagination. From what I have read, Mehmet died of small pox or another infectious disease. There were many of those in that time and many people died. Mahidevran had nothing to do with his death, even though she might have rejoiced in it. Interestingly she lived to be 80 years old and outlived Suleiman, Hurrem and all their children.
That was his majesty’s order, who can oppose him ??? Remember these words of yours Sultanim because those are the same you will hear from the sorcerer. We all know you’ve worked really hard for it and this for years. But there will be no peace and nothing is done yet.
She will hear it and do what? Nothing. She will accept it. She had the hope that she would be alive to oppose Suleiman just for her sons but died before him as she wished.
@@DimSK. Accept what?? She threatened Suleyman later on (which I absolutely understand from a mother) but still she has to remind herself of these words because she was the one to say them here. As far as she respected his majesty’s order. She doesn’t have to be so worried later on.
@@signora1102 She threatened Suleiman before she visits the witch. She threatened Suleiman in ep 126 or 127 but she visited the witch in episode 130. Then she accepted the fate and that's why she sent armors to both sons, let the strongest win. She threatened Suleiman because she's not just his wife but also mother of next sultan, which elevates her to valide sultan already so she can threat Suleiman. She knows Suleiman won't do anything to her anyway.
@@DimSK. Listen dear I don’t care when she did it. All I am saying is : She said herself it was majesty’s orders and no one can oppose them. Therefore, there’s no need to be alarmed when the table will turn. She will also have to respect and trust his majesty’s fair judgement and orders.
@@signora1102 Well dear, but Suleiman didn't kill or decide anything on anyone yet. She said these words after mustafas and Ibrahims death, not before.
If she didn't kill him, Mustafa will have her exiled or killed if he ascends the throne. Don't forget, his mother is Mahidevran. When that happens, her children will be helpless. She had to do this to be vlose to her family and save her children from having an aweful end. She sacrificed herself for her family.
@@jeanneaubert4193 not only Mihrimah was half brother to Mustafa, but all of them: Cihangir, Mehmet, Beyazid, Selim and Mihrimah. And Mustafa had them as half brothers and half sister. And they told her to steal the seal, in order not to draw attention, so they had convinced her, I will do not say the word "forced".
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 Mustafa would execute all his brothers if he became Sultan. We all know this! Also stop tagging people you bot! Mihrimah herself offered taking seal! Hahahaha
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 Mustafa was not their brother only Half brother! Selim, Mihrimah, Bayazid, Cihangir, Mehmed were real brothers and sister! Mustafa would execute them after becoming sultan, as Osman (Kosem’s stepson) did to his brothers.
This series really made mustafa look innocent while in reality he was caught making deals with the enemies to get to his father's throne, which was the reason for his execution
That was Harem life, if you don't strike first and get rid of your enemies, they will do the same to you. If Mustafa had successfully usurpsed the throne, the first thing he, Mahidevran and Fatma would have done is to kill Hürrem and all of her children. There is no good side or bad side, there is only self defence and trying to survive. Beyazid can shut up, if he did not have such a strong mother, he would have been killed ages ago like Mehmed
@@hjurassic7142 how is she better exactly? Even Hatice, Sah and Mahidevran admitted that they want to kill Hurrem but Gulfem was hiding like an innocent person when she was plotting with them in everything. From hiding Nigar baby to assassination attempt of Hurrem and many more. She's a ten faced witch.
In their culture there was no clear line to the throne, legitimate princes had to fight for it. If there were too many princes eligible then in the years before the ruler's death they had to sort it out one way or another, usually by killing each other off. Disabled Princes were not eligible. In the end, the last prince standing was the winner.
How dare Bayezid pointing his finger at his mother's face,not defending her when his aunt Fatma tell Hurrem is Murderer and also blaming her for Mustafa's death...Hurrem sad his beloved son not defend her if Selim was here he will punch Bayezid for his Mother
@@DimSK. Sultan Suleiman very respected Valide Hafsa and get blessing from her even he angry to his Valide he just give warning and never point his finger at his Valide's face like Bayezid do to Hurrem
@@sitinurfashihahahmad5949 fake blessings Take blessings and then raise voice and disrespect Like father like son soliman taught beyazid Later on Ahmed will raise his hand on his mother znd murad will exile his mother Step by step of disrespect
Mihrimah behaved like she did not knew that his father would kill Mustafa. Hurrem's happiness was indescribable. She managed to make a father kill his own son in orden to become valide sultana. Unfortunately she didn't manage to hold this title. Also she managed to enthrone prince Selim who didn't nothing good for the ottoman empire. Mustafa had lots of qualifications and he deserved the throne by right but Hurrem was selfish and she killed him with Rustem. Her only wish was to gave birth princes and unfortunately the one of them was murdered by the orders of his "father". All in all she managed to do nothing good and she pay the price from the God. May god forgive her.
That’s why I like Older Hurrem-Vahide more than Hurrem-Meryem. If this was Meryem-Hurrem she would never stand so calm and would start screaming back at these two 🤡🤡 Fatma and Gulfem. Vahide-Hurrem is so mature and classy. She literally listened without emotions and sent them directly to 🗑 without raising a voice! As the real Queen should! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
You're mixing both actors in a single character. It was nothing with the will of Maryam actress. She did what she was directed to do. Besides young Hurrem acted according to her age (and that was required that way)🤷
I have to agree with Munazah here. Meryem acted like a young and impulsive Hürrem because well Hürrem was young and impulsive, but as the episodes go on Meryem's Hürrem do calm down & learn to be smarter. You might prefer this older and more mature Hürrem, but it has nothing to do with the actresses, it's the writing. Hürrem's character evolved and would have evolved whether Meryem or Valide played her.
At that very moment, she also realised Suleyman didn't hesitate to kill his own son, but she untill her death she could save bayezid, but after her death, nobody could save him from his fratricide brother and blind power lusty father because of his own stupidity
Who are you fatma to speak like that??? Valide sultan is correct here. How dare this insolent woman accuse the valide sultan like this. She's lucky that she wasn't thrown to the dungeons.
Just like Hurrem, Fatma Sultana wasn't a common person too. She was Valide Hafsa Ayse Sultana's daughter, Selim Sultan Yavuz's daughter, Sultan Syleiman's sister. It's just a scene, we don't know if in real life this dialogue had done. As for the Sultanas, even if they spoke insolent to each other, the punishment wasn't the dungeon, it was some other kind of punishment and only the Sultan could decide of what it would be. Perhaps ask for forgiveness or something like that. Only Viziers and traitors were locked at the dungeons, not Sultanas and for sure not the sisters of the Sultan.
So easy to blame hurrem but she'd have geared the same could happen to her children too. Not only that but they ignore that Suleiman left with that decision already made, approval of the religious leaders with what was known and suspected.
Well Hurrem was a mother and it was either Mustafa or her kids. Now if you were a parent and knew that the likely out come if the brother from another mother came to power was the death of all or most of your kids don't tell me you wouldn't do the same. Just saying. Mahedivron tried to poison Hurrem while she was 8 or 9 months pregnant then killed Memhnet by poison.
Ikr, almost all Suleiman sisters that fought Hurrem except Sah, is not even on Hurrem's level but somehow managed to fight with her. Fatma is not even on the level of Mihrimah, her intrigue is annoying. Honestly, Hurrem would mop the floor along with her if she wasn't a Sultana. Edit: She actually does mop the floor along with Fatma.
If Mustafa was alive Maybe Bayazid would be alive too... Mustafa was the hope of Bayazid and now he knows that from now this war is between Selim and him and definitely one of them would be dead...🥲
Mustafa loved his sister mihirimah but she betrayed him for the sake of a mother who refused to accept her when she was born and forced her into marriage with a much older man. 🙄. Also people keep forgetting that Mahidevran saved Mehmet from drowning when he was little. So she also had Mehmet killed when he was older to protect her child not because she always hated him.
"It's easy to blame me and Rustem for everything. But do not forget that it wasn't me who gave the order to kill Mustafa". Well, you did anything but that, Hurrem. And yet you have the nerve to feel offended by these accusations. What a hypocrite
@@athirasr.8784 what real history you🤡 we are talking on Series! In real history Mihrimah and Hurrem never had annything to do with Mustafa’s death. He was executed as traitor by Suleiman! You🗑🗑
@@sarahdemir776 it's well obvious y tht tyrant killed his own son, will u kill ur son for power. It's a well manipulated script by that snake hurrem mihrimah and rustem. Whole world knows still here there are idiotic fans of hurrem saying blahh blahh 😆😆😆
@@DimSK. how could sister in law outrank a sultana? .hurrem has no royal blood..never will outrank Fatma sultan..but hurrem was very rude since the beginning of the series .she was not respect valide sultan or Suleiman sister's
@@hilldarniehilary8025 hurrem sultan outranks fatma After episode 42 and 63 she is above them, that's what history says Hurrem sultan in her life outranked all the sisters of Suleiman and mahidevran too As free woman, legal wife of the sultan and ruler of harem, her rank and position is above that of fatma/hatice/Shah/Beyhan and mahidevran It was Suleiman himself who made it that way, the only two titles who outrank hurrem sultan is valide sultan and sultan but since valide sultan passed, she took valide sultan position too after episode 123 so it's just Suleiman who outranks her
Meltem Cumbul would be a very good Hurrem. There is something lacking in Vahide's performance, I don;t think she can channel the right emotions while playing Hurrem. But of course Meryem was perfect for this role
What a murderer family. No shame. No guilt. A father kill his own son. A stepmother who is a liar n feel no shame n guilt leading a husband to kill his own son.
I love how whenever Mahidevran and Mustafa elluded or outright confessed to trying or wanting to kill Hurrem and her kids, no one said a word. No one was punished. It was no great sin. Meanwhile, Hurrem plots to kill Mustafa, and suddenly, she's the great villain, even if she did it to protect her children. Ultimately, she is right: Suleiman is the one to blame. She planted the seed of doubt, but he gave the order to kill his own son. He protected Mustafa from Hurrem many times before. He could have done it again, but he didn't. There was something inside him that didn't trust Mustafa, and that makes sense. With a conniving, murderous mother like Mahidevran, he probably knew his sons with Hurrem wouldn't survive a single day if Mustafa became sultan. He wanted Mehmed to succeed him, but fate had other plans.
These comments section just sick me in the show Mustafa is a loyal and kind and justice prince to everyone but everyone here seems to be happy for his death, in Turkish and Arabic version everyone are sad for Mustafa
Bqahahahahahha! Really bot, who told you? Read history! Otttoman Empire fell in 1922, that’s hundreds years after Hurrem you trrrasshhh! Read history ahahahahaha
Lmaooo whatttt? Prove your words? I am Turkkish! Go read history you🤡🤡 The empire stayed strong hundreds more years after Suleiman and Selim. The Ottoman’s empire ended in 1922 - that’s more than 400 years after selim, due to internal stagnation, costly defensive wars, European colonialism, and nationalist revolts among its multiethnic subjects. So READ HISTORY you 🤡🤡 Your Mustafa was nothing for my country Turrkkey. hahahaha
Oh really? You decided so, mustafa’s cllown? Read history- the empire was strong hundreds years after Selim and transformmed to Republic of Turkkey in 1922. Mustafa was most weakkk sehzade. You are embarrasssing! Hahahahaha!
Sorry guys really frustrated after this scene. From the beginning I supported Hurrem. I hate Musthafa Bcoz of Mahidevran. But at this moment a small frustration. That's it. In this series Musthafa has been potraited as a kind one. I don't know how Musthafa was in his real life. Any way someone suggest me a Good Author to read about Ottaman Dynasty.
Fatma: "How easily you killed him!"
Hurrem's face: Easily? I literally worked on it for years!
31 years to be precise 😁😁😁
Devil hurrem
@@Luna-fu7ix that's y she also lost her sons
@@maryangel4387 Hurrem play in game of thrones with inteligence and prudence but additional risk on risk and finaly she not control her strategy, her plan turn against her heirs/childrens and it's her children who suffer more. Hurrem lost her mind move by move from start of this tv show to the end.
@@Luna-fu7ix wampire Hurrem.. I hate this monster!
I think Hurrem was actually sad and confused about this whole situation. Of course she wanted Mustafa to die for the sake of her own children, but then later, she realized that this particular event sealed an important fact: Suleyman was capable of killing his own children. That’s why this was a constant reminder to her that, despite Mustafa’s death, she had to protect Selim and Bayezid from his father. I think that stress combined with the mourning of Mehmet and Cihangir ended up killing Hurrem.
Exactly. Hurrem always wanted Mustafa to be dead since he was a boy and this whole 'I wish you were my son' to him was just cheap gaslighting and manipulation from her part. I agree with you that Hurrem realized that after Suleiman killed Mustafa he would be capable of killing her own children too (irl he had killed Bayezid for treason).
@@valezkaandrea2388rubbish she liked Mustafa as a child before he started to hate her beacuse of mommy.
@@katarinasvensson9801I do wonder if things would have played out differently if Mahidevran had died when Mustafa was still little.
@@CrimsonAngelWinges i think it would to be honest it was Mahideran she was worried about the most not Mustafa
Exactly deep down she know he wouldent hurt them but Mahideran might
That scene where they are all arguing in the hall.... That scene really got to me more than any other.... It was so realistic and unscripted... It was just so REAL.
Gulfem is fighting Hurrem at the moment but later on she gets on Hurrem's side, she is very clever, she goes where the power sees.👌😁
Survival of the fittest!
If that's the case why wasn't she by valide sultan's side since the begin? Since episode 64? When valide sultan started ruling the harem , she outranked everyone.
@@DimSK. actually, at that time She had hoped that Mustafa would become Sultan and the game of Hurrem would be over, but it did not happen.
No
Not smart. Just an opportunist weaklings
The real smart opportunist was Nigar Kalfa & Rustem Pasa
Funny how the first part of the clip is basically Hürrem and Rüstem saying they killed Mustafa and the second part is denying everything and claiming innocence 😂
Lol
Mahidevran did that too. At least hurrem sultan will admit it to Suleiman , mahidevran never admitted it.
Also, it's mainly mahidevrans fault that Mustafa was executed. Bad upbringing.
@@DimSK. sorry
But what did she admit to soliman excatly when
@@Aliaakaramm hey, episode 130 ending Suleiman asked her if she took part in mustafas execution, she said she took part in this 'i did what was necessary suleiman, don't look for innocence'
We see hurrem sultan's answer in episode 131 start where Suleiman remembers what she told him.
In ep 130 they don't show the answer, only suleimans question, check episode 131 start for the answer.
@@DimSK. multiplated you mean not admitting sorry again 😁 She didn't tell him I fake letters to make you take your sons life
What she said was you are God on earth something close to that which is multiplated not admit
What is Bayezid accusing Hurrem of? Bayezid's death warrant was signed the moment Hurrem died. He was nothing without her.
Truth, but Beyazid should tell his mother to protect him. And it was the time that Hurrem should choose one of her sons, in order to have him protected and to make sure that he would take the throne. He is accusing her for Mustafa's execution, because he heard that she had a relation at Mustafa's death. As for Beyazid, if Rustem was killed by Hurrem, when she had the chance, Beyazid now would be Sultan. After all, Beyazid had Husein and Atmaca, so his victory would be glorious, he would be the ruler without doubt.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 mustafa’s botttttt! Your mustafa was rebellll and got Karmaaaaa
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 haha , even if Rustem didn’t betray Bayezid , he would have lost ultimately as he was hot headed and lacked patience. Hussein and Atmaca are good soldiers. Soldiers can fight bravely but beureaucrats have the final say in the long run...
@gunescelik4207 he was not. He may have not been submissive to Suleiman but he was not a traitor. Hurrem bots trying their best to defame him but still after years the truth is known.
Hurrem was right about one thing, everyone is blaming her for Mustafa's death and she def had put bad thoughts and suspicions about him in Suleiman's mind ( which Mustafa did help her by being an unruly son and governor from time to time)
But, in the end, it was Suleiman who ordered the execution
+ if mustafa became the sultan, he would have killed all of them, selim beyazid, cihangir too probably, hurrem, mihrimah, kids of sultana and princes
Could'nt agree more.
@Nina chan You can love someone but loose all common sense. Suleyman loved his son and it didn't prevent him to kill his child.
@@liathano Mustafa has promised many time to not kill his brother and sisters. He promised to stop the patricide practice in his rules.
@@satriorama4118 Suleyman also promised not to kill Ibrahim and we have seen the result. And maybe he did, but who knows if Mahidevran would not have done something on her own side.
Hurrem always said to Mustafa ‘i wish you were my son too, that way we wouldn’t have faced each other in this war’, Mahidevran sealed her son’s fate with the upbringing she gave him.
Don't blame Mahidevran for Hurrem's vicious actions. She would have killed him regardless
@@lujaynmigdadi i would have done so too if it meant my children don't have to die anymore
Don't be this much lame! Mahidevran did the best upbringing of a sehzade in her era...it was hurrem who poisoned her childrens mind..and also behind Mustafa's greatness and justice.. Mahidevran's upbringing is responsible
@@TanAlaKho it was Mahidevran who poisoned her son's mind all those years and supported his rebellion against his father and Sultan. Hurrem had always taught her children to love and protect eachother, to be respectful, and to bear the consequences of their actions. It was Mustafa's own fault for his downfall, and Mahidevran's too. Hurrem just opened Suleiman's eyes to what was really happening.
@@lujaynmigdadi Mahidevran and Mustafa himself are responsible for their downfall, being greedy for power and rebelling against the Sultan. Hurrem just opened Suleiman's eyes to the truth.
Gülfem finally says something after 100 years 😂
Who?
suddenly come out of nowhere 😂🤦🏻♀️
She only courage when with other sultanah. If they not be there, she was only hide behind the wall. She was coward but try to pretend brave😂😂
But she realy nailed this scean even more than fatma's actress
She speaks the truth tho
Everybody! Please give Mirimah a round of applause. Hurrrem Sultana tried so many times to kill Sehzade Mustafa and failed, but her daughter tried only once and accomplished it.
She successfully got rid of Shah sultan and Rustem pasha too :v
Lmaooo Facts! 👑
Credit to Mahidevran as well🤣🤣 . She had managed to kill Mehmed on her first attempt. Previously, everything she did was unsuccessful and easy to suspect..
@@syazwaniaris2649 True, but Mahidervan succeeded in killing Mehmed because Hurrem was lost for 2 years. If Hurrem was there Mahidevran wouldn’t win.
@@sarahdemir776 nah if hurrem not lost 2 years i mean Mehmet still died.
Bayezid : Don't touch me, mother
My brother's blood is on your hands
Also bayezid : Validem, i need your support behind me.
So irirating , he needs his mother only when he is in trouble
Lmaooo FACTS! 👏🏼
Im glad selim got the throne , bayezid was not worthy for it , he doesn’t even understand the sacrifices hurrem gave for him
@@magnificent4433 Selim was a drunkard, and the Nurbanu and the Grand Vizier ruled the country. Selim was a failure.
@@norley2816 a country is always ruled by the people not by the monarch
He's kinda mindless and has serious anger issue
When Mahidevran does evil things: No one judges or blames her.
But when it come from Hurrem: Every bad word comes out of their mouths.
That why Hurrem once said. Her enemy only see her cruelty but they never realized their cruelty to her. And then they keep pretend innocent and victim :)
:))
❤❤
they also forget mahidevran killed mehmet,hurrems firstborn.
True
Based on history, hurrem's son die because of disease not mahidevran, so the movie just make the death of hurrem's son more dramatic, but there rumours in real story that mustafa death could be hurrem's plot with rustem.
Ibrahim pasha is executed
Hurrem: I understand your pain sultana but I have nothing to do with it
Şehzade Mustafa is executed
Hurrem: I understand your pain sultana but I have nothing to do with it
She’s snake 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
@@Thko0osh hey BOT, the snake is you and Mahidevran- she killed Mehmed and ruiined life of Mustafa too!
@@sarahdemir776 If i’m snake then you are a dog coz barking is all what you do 🤣
@@Thko0osh hahahahaha! Change script, mustafa’s bot! Barkk barkkk 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
@@jeanneaubert4193 And you change your brain- oh wait you don’t have one 🤭
Surprising that no one tried to ensure Mehmet' safety. None of these gone mad after Mustafa' death thought it would be prudent to provide cover to his family! How easily Mehmet was taken away was horrid! Everyone is screaming at Hürrem but no one defied the sultan to rescue little Mehmet. How could that insane sultan even kill his own grandson is unimaginable... Hürrem and Suleiman deserved the trauma of Cihangar' death.
She tried to kill Mustafa many times before Muhammad died
@@saraali1538 mahidevran is the one who began this game by poisoning hurrem when she was pregnant, and then after selims birth she kept on telling hurrem that it doesn't matter how many sons she has, what matters is who gets to the throne. She literally left hurrem no choice.
They deserved both Mehmet's death, because they killed Ibrahim Pasha and Hatice Sultana and now they deserved it once more with Cihangir's death, because they killed Mustafa. That's because God was greater than them, so they should not laugh at the others, because the fire who had the name of Hurrem Hatun, now she burned to asshes and she destroyed both others and herself together. Lesson about Hurrem and Syleiman: a) don't prepare the tomb for the others, because there is a possibility that you will fall in your trap and b) don't trust traitor dogs and hyenas like Zal Mahmud and Rustem Pasha, but stay in the loyal ones, just like Mustafa, Ibrahim, Valide Hafsa Ayse Sultana (Syleiman's mother), Mahidevran Sultana, Hatice Sultana, Lutfi Pasha, Ferhat Pasha, Kara Ahmed Pasha, Fatma Sultana, Beyhan Sultana, Atmaca, Taslicali Yahya Bey, Matraksi Nasuh Effendi, Prince Beyazid, Prince Cihangir, Mihrunissa, Sah Sultana and Gülfem Hatun.
@@richajain7753 that's true, the only truth is who gets the throne. Hurrem had 4 Princes, she lost the three and Selim took the throne (it happened accidentaly). Mustafa was the Heir Prince, he was the bigger son of Syleiman and the future of the Empire, so he had more chances and more possibilities to take the throne. Neither Hurrem liked this or not, that doesn't means nothing. Mahidevran just said that her son was closest to the throne and that was the truth. This was the law and the laws remain as they have (the most of the times). But Hurrem cheated. And she payed for that with Mehmet, Cihangir and in the end with her own life. Even the illness of Syleiman was another punishment for both of them and more for Syleiman.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 i don't agree with you, Mustafa was never the crown prince, because in muslims all sons have equal rights, read the Ottoman history, a lot of times younger princes got to the throne, even though the eldest was alive and perfectly capable, just because the younger one had more support. Also hurrem had more chances to get to the throne since she had three candidates to the throne wheras mahidevran just had one. Also please don't talk about hurrem being punished by the death of her sons, because that's how Ottoman Empire worked, sultan had a lot of children and only one of them makes it to the end the rest always die, whether in the fight for the throne or after loosing it. This happened in every single generation of Ottoman Empire even before hurrem and continued later on as well. Same thing happened with Suleiman's brothers too they all died in the fight for the throne and only he made it alive.
I wonder how would Hatice and Sah react upon hearing about Mustafa's execution. I am sure that nothing could have stopped Hatice from trying to eat Hurrem alive upon sight. Perhaps even the ice cold Sah would join in this attempt
You forgot Beyhan sultan
@@anakayam8763 you're right.
I am sorry about this
yes of course.. Hatice Sultan love so much Mustafa and she will auto become crazy and attack Hurrem, when she heard this news. Hatice cannot control her emotion like her other sister
@@wanmohammadaimanwanzamzani9755 hurrem would low-key win that fight tho
In this scene, hurrem sultan realizes that she's now valide sultan, war ended and she won. As she promised, one by one will pay for what they done. Her last enemy, mahidevran, has been eliminated.
Fatma, gulfem and everyone else should accept it and go away. No matter what they did, hafsa, Ibrahim, hatice, shahuban, mahidevran, fatma, gulfem, hurrem sultan is elevated to valide sultan title and secured the throne for her children.
Can't wait for Selim vs. Bayezid (conflict) scenes to be uploaded. Exciting!
@@pialhiannaapostol8384 oh well prepare for my comments too because I got a lot to say
@@DimSK. don't we all haha
@@pialhiannaapostol8384 ahahahahahahahahahahaha
Hurrem never was Valide Sultana, she was only Haseki Sultana. The title of Valide Sultana had been given when a Sultana sees one (when she lives) of her living son to take the throne. Hurrem never seen no one of her sons to take the throne, neither Selim, nor Beyazid or Mehmet. Hurrem wasn't Valide Sultana, all the mothers called "Valide", but the title "Valide Sultana" was only given to Syleiman's mother, to Mihrimah Sultana and to others. Hurrem was just Haseki Sultana. Neither in Real History, nor at the serie was Valide Sultana and this was a tradition, that means that Hurrem maybe became Haseki Sultana, but she died before Selim take the throne at 1558. Selim took the throne at 1566, so she never became Valide Sultana.
Hurrem was so cold blooded person. But some of her kids were really good. Bayezid, Cihangir were good and they had good brotherly relations with Mustafa
She killed Mustafa because of her children and Bayezid was too stupid to understand it. If Mustafa had ascended the Throne he would have killed them all including Bayezid.
even historians tell,that hurrem want only the power in wealth.she was non so much in love with suleiman,she was fake person.
Ín the real She was a heartwarming people. I saw the New information about Prince Mustafa. He wanted the Throne ín the real. And he szent a letter to Tahmas sah. Ín the real he wrote the letter not Hurrem. A turkish woman made a video of the truth.
I don’t think people understand that if Musatafa becomes sultan then hurrem sons would have killed because at the time whoever becomes the next sultan he has to kill his brother. This was a law continue until Ahmed 1 (1603). This more than about having control or power, this was life and death.
Blablabla you better know everything. :) Mustafa was Innocent. Innocent!!!!!!
As if Mustafa not becoming a Sultan saved Hurrem's sons. Selim killed Beyezid in series. Even in real life her own sons turned against eachother and Bayezid was executed.
Mustafa would never do THIS.Why you don't understand that Mustafa is innocent here.Not hurrem ok?Hurrem is a devil everytime...devil and devil
Bayezid and Selim laughing in the corner
Not necessarily. He could have changed the law like Ahmed did.
Mirimah steeling the seal
Later mihrimah acting inocent infront of beyazid
@Leo nice island 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣
@Leo that's good that you like all sides. You are not fanatic like some accounts here.
@Leo you are right.
How brave Mustafa was.... He fought for straight 38 years 🌸✨🌸
Hahahahahaha! Fought? He was the weakkest coward, it’s Hurrem who fought for 30 more years! You🤡🤡
Fought? Who??? He never fought. He was coward and even hid his marriage for one year😂😂
@@piotrrutkowskl9972 he at least was braver than you bots who hide behind fake accounts 🤣🤣🤣
Fought? Fought who? He was weakest sehzade who hasn’t accomplished anything in 38 years and even hid his marriage 😂😂 Coward
@@blossomroses4323 agree lol and these accounts are getting more day by day
Are you happy now? Huh?
Before you ask to Hurrem. Ask first Mahidevran, how her reaction when hear mehmed death?
Did gulfem think Hurrem still can calm and laughed after her mehmed died?
👍👏
Who sent efsun and gulizar befor Mehmet
A question you can't dare to answer
@@Aliakaramm Yes, I admit hurrem sent efsun to poison mustafa. But as for the death of the efsun, she died during the abortion. Sooner or later Valide sultan will know too. So, not the hurrem who gave the order to her abort.
@@Aliakaramm Ummm bot, Mahidervan sent killllers to Hurrem since day one and even poiisoned pregnant Hurrem. So shuttt
@@Aliakaramm So, before efsun come, who was the first that attack and try to kill Hurrem. (I surely you will never admit it and try to twist)
Hurrem will not hostile to them first if them was not against and threat her.
In season 1 and season 2 : Hurrem be threated
In season 3 and 4 : Time for hurrem get revenge
It fair right?
So dramatic how they stood their shrieking and accusing Hurrem and Rustem, when none of their hands were clean! How many times did they plot to kill Hurrem? Fatma killed her husband, and tried to kill Hurrem. Gulfem fully supported all of Hatice's plans to kill Hurrem. The facts are that IRL Mustafa, like Ibrahim, was solely responsible for his own downfall and death at the hands of the Sultan. Mustafa's behavior with the Janniseries alone was treason, add to that his conspiring with the Venetians and making promises to them about what he'd do for them if they supported him to become sultan over his siblings (while Suleiman was alive.) He should have been smarter.
"Im not my father"- sultan Suleiman
my advice - always keep your word, always keep your honor, take care of your soul, take care of the poor people and animals
and never have the blood of your children on your hands
Those who dig graves for others fall in themselves.Hurrrem dig grave for Mustafa but her son will fall into it.
Hurrem made Suleiman kill Mustafa.. As it is said, beginning is always the hardest.. It was very difficult for Suleiman to execute Mustafa, but it will become easier for him to give up on Bayezid..
Bwahahahahah! SHOSHO bot, Hurrem never made Suleiman killl Mustafa, he killled Mustafa himself as he knew he was liiar!
Hurrem’s son never fell in grave, she lived happy life. Her son became Sultan! Her daughter became Valide Sultan!
Mahidevran killled Mehmed- Hurrem’s son and she paid for it! KARMA!
Cryy now! 😂😂😂
@@piotrrutkowskl9972 I see you're the fourth bot account 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What are you blllabbing you🤡🤡
Mahidevran killled Hurrem’s son Mehmed and her son Mustafa paid for it! KARMA!
Suleiman was Magnificent and Kanuni- Lawmaker. No one ever made him do something! He took decisions himself! He warned Mustafa to stop lying and disobeying rules in Episode 101 and many times! Mustafa got what he deserved!
Hurrem’s son became Padisah and Hurrem’s daughter became Valide Sultan! She WON!
Your 🐍🐍 Mahidevran paid for everything! Hahahaha!
Hahahahaha! Mustafa’s bot, Hurrem never made Suleiman the Magnificent kill Mustafa you🤡🤡
👉🏼Suleiman warned Mustafa milllion times to stop lying, crossing limits and disobeying rules- go see Series 101 and other episodes, but Mustafa continued liies, he dug his grave himself as Ibrahim did.
👉🏼 Mahidervan killled Mehmed- Hurrem’s son. She dug grave for Mehmed but her son Mustafa fell in it. KARMA!
Hurrem didn't write the Ottoman dynastic laws. They all lived by them, and some died by them. It was their legitimate, accepted political system.
Actualy both Fatima,Gulfem and Hurrem are all right in this seen and you can take severol things out of this and other seens.
1:Yes Hurrem was playing a game if survival with Mustafa and did manige to do the intiges that resolted in his execution.
2:However as Hurrem pointed out it was Suliman who orderd the execution of mustafa,ironicly later on he would be behind Byazids as well.
3:Both Mustafa and Hurrem knew in their last meting were it was headed and one had to die and it was clear nether of them rejoysed in that prospect and Hurrem did not rejoyse or enjoy her victory or Mustafas death infact quite oppesit and her coldness in public was her putting up a wall to not brake down,and the balcony seen were she recalls Mustafa and brakes down shows that
Whether in real life or this series, Suleiman had to kill Mustafa for his own safety. Their dynasty has a history of the son usurping the throne and killing their father in the process. Naturally Suleiman doesn't want that.
Did the old boy have genuine facts that his son was going to usurp? In the histories there is no record of that, only suspicion because Jannisaries respected him, that a plan was afoot. Just awful clinical elimination of a possible threat, but seems Mustafa was a good man & loyal brother, but the question is whether would he eliminate his male kin after a time when crowned, via pressure from his mother or others?
@@hoolydooly5799 from what I read Mustafa did have secret meetings with the Persians to help him get the throne. They were still in the planning stage when he was executed
@@carmelagarin8645 Can you provide citation. There is no documentation from Persian Saffafid records, and you would think they would have as The Saffafids & Ottomans were in border conflict for generations not unlike like France & England were for centuries, and any intrigue against Sulieman by Mustapha's faction would be gloated about in chronicles prior abnd after his murder even if untrue they could spread gossip to get back to Sulieman to make him feel his reign could be besieged/usurped by his son.
@@hoolydooly5799 Your “pure” Mustafa lied Suleiman many times, didn’t obey rules, revolted against Father, married and hid his marriage for years from him.
Also, in real history, he had correspondence with Persians- his father’s enemies, to get their support for throne and bribed janissaries for support.
And FYI he had his Tughra made. Turkish historian Murat Bardakçi and his team found about a manuscript notebook belonging to Mustafa, on the first page being Tughra that says “Shah Sultan Mustafa, Khan son of Suleiman, victorious forever.” Arrogant much?
According the Empire law only Sultan could have Tughra, no Sehzade ever! If a Sehzade made a Tugra the penalty was death!
So sit down and don’t tell us stories here about “pure” Mustafa.
He was not angel
@@carmelagarin8645 Yes true
4:23 you can see how hurt Mihrimah Sultana was. Even though she didnt love her half brother Prince Mustafa still it hurts.
She killed him her blood brother
She is a total hypocrite. Her crocodile tears here means zilch.
She spews garbage about Mustafa, accusing him of being a rebel and disobedient son and then in later goes on to hide Bayezid's moronic plan of killing Selim and goes as far as supporting Bayezid against Selim in full contradiction to her mother's wishes.
Hurrem did what she had to and I can respect the fact that she did everything to protect her children.
Mihrimah on the other hand falls for any numpty that walks, disrespects her husband, actively conspires against her brothers and then has the gall to act as if Selim is this big terrible evil who is a curse to the dynasty.
As usual she too got a rough life without love
It's so interesting how Fatma and Gülfam as well as Hürrem's own sons think that there would have been not blood shed if mahidevran and Mustafa 'won'...
Also technically speaking it's Mahidevran and Ibrahim Pasha who killed Prince Mustafa by setting him on the path of opposing Hürrem.
With Mahidevran threatening Hürrem with her sons lives and going so far as to cause Mehmet's death...
Exactly and mahidevran had the audacity to cry for Mustafa. She cried for valide sultan position!
Lol what was Mahidevran supposed to do? Let Hurrem win with no resistance and tell Mustafa to support her even though she had sons of her own? When Ottoman Law declared that each sultan should kill his brothers upon ascension? You're telling me that if Mahidevran had been the perfect little Hurrem supporter then Mustafa would've survived? Ooh Mahidevran killing Mehmet is such an unforgivable sin when Hurrem tried to poison Mustafa repeatedly alongside murdering (or attempting to murder) every woman that caught Suleiman's fancy, but she is immaculate, isn't she? Perfect Hurrem who never does anything wrong. Grow up. This is not a Disney movie, every single character kills and harms for power, for love, for survival.
Check history bro... dnt get misled by tricky serials
@@foodie2710 check history! Hurrem never had something to do with Mustafa’s deathhh
@@gunescelik4207 for u history is some turkey fancy serials...otherwise in all the records she is held responsible for brainwashing the puppet king
OMG! Gulfem has the audacity to speak and talk like that. Hurrem should have slapped her. And Fatma is shedding tears right now. All these years she was busy chasing young boys.
Hahah true, in reality if they dared to accuse her, one would be exiled to old palace and other to another city xDD
Exactly
@@DimSK. Even Hurrem was a Sultana, slapping another Sultana, that is a great sin, a terrible atrocious sin and the punishment is death by beheading. No one (even Sultana) had not the right to slap another Sultana. Being a queen, doesn't means that should slap another queens. All the ones who slap a royal member, even if was Hurrem to another member, like Hatice or even Ibrahim Pasha, that means that he/she could lose his/her head.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 yep. No wonder Hurrem hid her part in Hatice's beating. She wouldn't hide it if it wasn't necessary. But if anyone and especially Suleiman was to find out that Hurrem beat Hatice up...well, her red haired head would be mounted on a spike
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 No she wouldn’t bot. Hahahaha! Hurrem was top rank
Mirimah: *steals mustafa's stamp* now Mustafa will be exiled to the other side of the empire and will never bother us anymore
Mustafa: *dies*
Mirimah: waaaaaa I didn't expect this outcome
Hahhahahaha this one 🤣🤣🤣🤣
She was expecting that he’d be exiled or something,not execution
Hurrem did not live to see her son ascend the throne or see Bayezid murdered.
Hurrem is also a horrible person but she is not completely evil, she did crimes for her survival and revenge, if Mahidevran hadn't threatened her at the beginning that she will eliminate her and her children if she'll take power, maybe Hurrem would not be as cruel. Gulfem is a crazy woman too, she plotted with royals many times against Hurrem, what did she think was going to happen after, did she think that Hurrem was going to let it go like that and let them bully her or threaten her in physical or mental way? Of course what Hurrem did towards Mustafa is an unforgivable crime but Fatma also used innocent Huricihan for her dirty games, not thinking of her safety if something goes wrong, it's totally ok for Fatma to use children as a shield. And no one is brave enough to say the same what they said to Hurrem to Suleimans face because if they'll do that, they'll get punished, most of them are cowards.
It's kill or be kill sadly in many royal family around the world fighting for power 😪
hurrem was very good person! She is protttecting her children
Hurrem was a good person, she was eviil with her enemiies
I love how Hurrem put them to their places without raising a voice 😂😂😂
True...👌💯🤣
@@farhanaratree87 Hurrem didn’t killl Mustafa, Suleiman did you cllown ahahahahahah! And she never killled her sons- Mahidervan killled Mehmed-Hurrem’s son!
@@farhanaratree87 what are you blllabbing, Mustafa’s bot? Hurrem never killled Liiar and Traiitor mustafa! Suleiman did!
And she never killled her sons. Mahidervan killled innocent Mehmed you trrrassshoooo
@@farhanaratree87 lmaoooo what??? Hurrem never killed mustafa, bot! Suleiman killed him for his liies!
Hurrem never killed her sons. Mahidervan killled her son Mehmed!
What show are you watching you bot? Hahahahaha
What is hurrem place?
Gulfem was part of the problem. She saw what they did to Hurrem from the beginning did she really not expect her to fight back.
And as usual (as they do with fratricide), for the sake of drama, they pretend that filicide isn’t something that is allowed for the sake of the oh-so-precious dynasty.
Don't touch me
The way beyazid treating hurrem
Like solimam treated his mother excatky
My brothers blood on your hands
Beyazid admit he knew everything
Hahahaahha! Learn to spell, SHOSHO bot. Bayazid always treated his mother with respect and so did Suleiman to Valide Sultana! Sit down!
@@piotrrutkowskl9972 another fake account? 🤣🤣
@@blossomroses4323 excatly 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@Aliakaramm I'm not surprised at this point 😂😂
They're such an embarrassment lol 🤣
Hahahahaha! Bayazid never disrespected Hurrem and Suleiman never disrespected his mother you🤡🤡 You are such an embarrassment when you talk to your fake account Blossom Roses lmaooo!
I think Hurrem was shocked that Suleyman actually did it. She understood that he might also kill one of her sons as well.
His Grace is a Disgrace now 😭
That’s you and Mustafa! Suleiman is Magnificent! Go cryyy bot!
The only disgrace here is you, Mahideviil and Mustafa. But you were never grace soooo😂😂
Why did I find this funny? 😂😂😂
@@gunescelik4207 bohooo cry about it Ashley bot 🤣🤣
@@sarahdemir776 cry about it 🤣🤣
Disgraceful bots
Я думаю у Хюррем такое шокированное лицо потому что она до последнего момента не верила, что султан может убить своего сына. Она поняла, что он также может убить и других сыновей и её саму. И она чувствовала опустошенность законченной битвы за корону ( как и Селим будет чувствовать себя пустым после того как убил Баязида).
Хюррем жалела Мустафу как человека, но убила его как мать своих детей. Для Хюррем это было тяжелое решение, а Махидевран улыбнулась довольно, когда ей доложили о смерти Мехмета. Махидевран более жестока, чем Хюррем.
The speech of Hurrem at the last moment.. I've been waiting for it!!
1:12, 4:30 Mustafa loves their siblings very much ❤he was amazing brother that's why miharmah become sad 😢 Mustafa deserve to be next sultan he was very kind and wise
Can't help but think had the right people like gulfem choose hurrems side earlier they mayhave prevented Mustafas death. Loyal to hurrem or not she wouldn't have helped kill a prince. Just like safiyes daughter in the kosem series
Mmm I'm not so sure about that. Fraticide was such a common thing in the Ottoman empire. I don't think Gulfem being on her side would have changed Hürrem's plan.
One of the things that irks me sometimes about seeing this scene is that, if the roles were reverses everyone would be celebrating. If Hurrem's sons (and by extension Hurrem herself most likely) would have all gotten killed then Fatma would be celebrating. But because Hurrem was smart enough (regretfully so I might add) to play this game of thrones and win the security of her sons (to a point because now is Selim vs Baheyizd) they all are angry with her.
The only problem for her here was realising that sultan can kill his own son. Yes it's a bit different case since Mustafa wasn't already favourite one and his mother was Mahidevran, yet sometimes even Hurrem couldn't stop Suleiman from making decisions that she wasn't expecting
How quick they were to attack Hurrem but when Mehmet was killed no one said anything smh
In history Mehmet died due to small pox...
Whatever happens! Mustafa was really innocent.. My favourite character was mustafa, mehmit, bayazid and cihangir.. All of them were died...
Hurrem's face when she was told that Mustafa was killed was like (here we go again and I'll going to get blamed for it)😉
Like she is innocent tf🥴
When mehmet die mahidevran smiled now karma is for you
Yeah
The audacity of this comment section to defend hurrem🤢 although Suleiman is to be blame more. No matter how much mustafa was unruly, he was the most deserving one, out of the rest of suleiman children. The decline of the empire started after hurrem blood[ drunken selim] sat on the throne.
Mahidevran got Mehmet Killed
Hurrem got Mustafa Killed
I blame Mahidevran for both deaths.
Firstly, she killed Mehmet for no reason, Mehmet was such a kind hearted and cared for Mustafa and Mahidevran the most.
Secondly, the reason why Mustafa was killed was because of his stupidity and disrespect. Hurrem brought Mehmet up as a sweet, nice guy. Mahidevran raised Mustafa terribly! She always tried to make Mustafa hate Hurrem and his own brothers!
In real life Mehmet died from small pox but Mustafa was still set up to be killed 😓
@@mirelarujovic7058 The people who set Mustapha up were his mother and himself. Both in the series and real life, they shouldn't have counted their chicken before they hatched. They automatically thought they had the throne in their hands but fell on their faces.
@@mirelarujovic7058mustafa was traiitor in history bottttt! Hahahahahaya
Wtf.
This is to me the big problem when making historical films or TV series. There is too much untruth, i.e. there is a lot that the writers make up to make it interesting for people, and then history gets all mixed up with imagination. From what I have read, Mehmet died of small pox or another infectious disease. There were many of those in that time and many people died. Mahidevran had nothing to do with his death, even though she might have rejoiced in it. Interestingly she lived to be 80 years old and outlived Suleiman, Hurrem and all their children.
That was his majesty’s order, who can oppose him ???
Remember these words of yours Sultanim because those are the same you will hear from the sorcerer.
We all know you’ve worked really hard for it and this for years. But there will be no peace and nothing is done yet.
She will hear it and do what? Nothing. She will accept it. She had the hope that she would be alive to oppose Suleiman just for her sons but died before him as she wished.
@@DimSK. Accept what?? She threatened Suleyman later on (which I absolutely understand from a mother) but still she has to remind herself of these words because she was the one to say them here. As far as she respected his majesty’s order. She doesn’t have to be so worried later on.
@@signora1102 She threatened Suleiman before she visits the witch. She threatened Suleiman in ep 126 or 127 but she visited the witch in episode 130. Then she accepted the fate and that's why she sent armors to both sons, let the strongest win.
She threatened Suleiman because she's not just his wife but also mother of next sultan, which elevates her to valide sultan already so she can threat Suleiman. She knows Suleiman won't do anything to her anyway.
@@DimSK. Listen dear I don’t care when she did it. All I am saying is : She said herself it was majesty’s orders and no one can oppose them. Therefore, there’s no need to be alarmed when the table will turn. She will also have to respect and trust his majesty’s fair judgement and orders.
@@signora1102 Well dear, but Suleiman didn't kill or decide anything on anyone yet. She said these words after mustafas and Ibrahims death, not before.
If she didn't kill him, Mustafa will have her exiled or killed if he ascends the throne. Don't forget, his mother is Mahidevran. When that happens, her children will be helpless. She had to do this to be vlose to her family and save her children from having an aweful end. She sacrificed herself for her family.
Mahidevran started this.
@@gelbautista1132 not according to real history
Horrible....this palace is a deadly place, with snakes all around
Come on Hurrem and what about you Mihrimah he was your blood
Fatma sultan well said everything
Hurrem didn’t force Mihrimah to do something? Mihrimah offered herself to steal the seal. Try better Jurassic aka SHOSHO. Hahahahah!
Hurrem didn’t force Mihrimah to do it? And Mustafa was half brother, not real brother as Mehmed, Selim, Bayazid or Cihangir. So Mihrimah was right.
@@jeanneaubert4193 not only Mihrimah was half brother to Mustafa, but all of them: Cihangir, Mehmet, Beyazid, Selim and Mihrimah. And Mustafa had them as half brothers and half sister. And they told her to steal the seal, in order not to draw attention, so they had convinced her, I will do not say the word "forced".
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 Mustafa would execute all his brothers if he became Sultan. We all know this! Also stop tagging people you bot! Mihrimah herself offered taking seal! Hahahaha
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 Mustafa was not their brother only Half brother! Selim, Mihrimah, Bayazid, Cihangir, Mehmed were real brothers and sister! Mustafa would execute them after becoming sultan, as Osman (Kosem’s stepson) did to his brothers.
Who would want a throne which can be only achieved by killing your brothers and spilling blood of innocent people.
9:12 She told them, correctly. If they question👑 *His Majesty,* 👑they compromise/jeopardize themselves.
Mihrimah having the audacity to cry
Careful, the sicko bots are coming for you
Acting
@@Aliakaramm said SHOSHO cllownnn🤣🤣🤣
This series really made mustafa look innocent while in reality he was caught making deals with the enemies to get to his father's throne, which was the reason for his execution
Fatma and Gulfem being 🤡🤡 for 5 minutes! 🤣🤣🤣 Hurrem is being 👑👑 as always 👉🏼 Feel free to refer to his majesty with your complaints 👋🏼
That was Harem life, if you don't strike first and get rid of your enemies, they will do the same to you. If Mustafa had successfully usurpsed the throne, the first thing he, Mahidevran and Fatma would have done is to kill Hürrem and all of her children. There is no good side or bad side, there is only self defence and trying to survive. Beyazid can shut up, if he did not have such a strong mother, he would have been killed ages ago like Mehmed
Again gulfem, who is she to speak like that to valide sultan? Both her and fatma will get a well deserved ending.
Still better than Hurrem
@@hjurassic7142 worse. Valide sultan is correct in this scene. Gulfem and fstma are a nothing.
@@DimSK. lel I forgot Gulfem is still a character on this show.
@@hjurassic7142 how is she better exactly? Even Hatice, Sah and Mahidevran admitted that they want to kill Hurrem but Gulfem was hiding like an innocent person when she was plotting with them in everything. From hiding Nigar baby to assassination attempt of Hurrem and many more. She's a ten faced witch.
@@kaigoukhongsai8880 I feel you. Gulfem acts like a wolf in sheep's clothing. Her character is unnecessary so I don't understand the praise for her.
In their culture there was no clear line to the throne, legitimate princes had to fight for it. If there were too many princes eligible then in the years before the ruler's death they had to sort it out one way or another, usually by killing each other off. Disabled Princes were not eligible. In the end, the last prince standing was the winner.
How dare Bayezid pointing his finger at his mother's face,not defending her when his aunt Fatma tell Hurrem is Murderer and also blaming her for Mustafa's death...Hurrem sad his beloved son not defend her if Selim was here he will punch Bayezid for his Mother
Like father like son
Like soliman excatly
Yes indeed, hafsa felt very bad when Suleiman did that too. They never respected and listened their mothers.
@@DimSK. Sultan Suleiman very respected Valide Hafsa and get blessing from her even he angry to his Valide he just give warning and never point his finger at his Valide's face like Bayezid do to Hurrem
@@sitinurfashihahahmad5949 ok that's true, Beyazid is worse.
@@sitinurfashihahahmad5949 fake blessings
Take blessings and then raise voice and disrespect
Like father like son soliman taught beyazid
Later on Ahmed will raise his hand on his mother znd murad will exile his mother
Step by step of disrespect
Fatma and Gulfem being 🤡🤡🤡 as always. Well thankfully Gulfem became friends with Hurrem later, she realized truth.
Mihrimah behaved like she did not knew that his father would kill Mustafa. Hurrem's happiness was indescribable. She managed to make a father kill his own son in orden to become valide sultana. Unfortunately she didn't manage to hold this title. Also she managed to enthrone prince Selim who didn't nothing good for the ottoman empire. Mustafa had lots of qualifications and he deserved the throne by right but Hurrem was selfish and she killed him with Rustem. Her only wish was to gave birth princes and unfortunately the one of them was murdered by the orders of his "father". All in all she managed to do nothing good and she pay the price from the God. May god forgive her.
I wonder how the real Hurrem overcame all this?
Real Hurrem in real history never had anything to do with Mustafa’s death. He was liar and traitor.
She exiled fatma. She was innocent in real life anyway.
Real history Hurrem didn’t have anything to do with Mustafa’s death. He rebeled against Suleiman and Suleiman executed him.
She is a psychopath. They don't have empathy.
@@kawsarnaseri3208 she did also with Ibrahim pasha
That’s why I like Older Hurrem-Vahide more than Hurrem-Meryem. If this was Meryem-Hurrem she would never stand so calm and would start screaming back at these two 🤡🤡 Fatma and Gulfem. Vahide-Hurrem is so mature and classy. She literally listened without emotions and sent them directly to 🗑 without raising a voice! As the real Queen should! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
You're mixing both actors in a single character.
It was nothing with the will of Maryam actress.
She did what she was directed to do.
Besides young Hurrem acted according to her age (and that was required that way)🤷
@@munazah9838 yes sure but still.
@@munazah9838 I know, but still. And I love both.
I have to agree with Munazah here. Meryem acted like a young and impulsive Hürrem because well Hürrem was young and impulsive, but as the episodes go on Meryem's Hürrem do calm down & learn to be smarter. You might prefer this older and more mature Hürrem, but it has nothing to do with the actresses, it's the writing. Hürrem's character evolved and would have evolved whether Meryem or Valide played her.
Lol she's not mature.
At that very moment, she also realised Suleyman didn't hesitate to kill his own son, but she untill her death she could save bayezid, but after her death, nobody could save him from his fratricide brother and blind power lusty father because of his own stupidity
Who are you fatma to speak like that??? Valide sultan is correct here. How dare this insolent woman accuse the valide sultan like this. She's lucky that she wasn't thrown to the dungeons.
I literally skip scenes with Fatma as season 4 went on. Another annoying and unnecessary character smh
Just like Hurrem, Fatma Sultana wasn't a common person too. She was Valide Hafsa Ayse Sultana's daughter, Selim Sultan Yavuz's daughter, Sultan Syleiman's sister. It's just a scene, we don't know if in real life this dialogue had done. As for the Sultanas, even if they spoke insolent to each other, the punishment wasn't the dungeon, it was some other kind of punishment and only the Sultan could decide of what it would be. Perhaps ask for forgiveness or something like that. Only Viziers and traitors were locked at the dungeons, not Sultanas and for sure not the sisters of the Sultan.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 Fatma was nothing, only a 🤡🤡🤡
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 Hurrem was Haseki Sultana and the Queen. Fatma was nothing next to her.
@@dionysiossmaragdis2844 they don't get that, for them there is just Hurrem sultan the snake 🐍
So easy to blame hurrem but she'd have geared the same could happen to her children too. Not only that but they ignore that Suleiman left with that decision already made, approval of the religious leaders with what was known and suspected.
Fatma sultan is our voice
Yes 🥰 gulfem too ❣️
Rather not have her as mine due to some of choices she makes.
Our? You mean yours and your fake accounts?
@@athirasr.8784 hey trrasshh bot, our? You mean yours and your fake accounts? 🤣🤣🤣
Our???? You mean yours and your fake accounts? Bwahahahahaha😂😂😂😂
Bayezid disappoints me. He should show allegiance to his father.
Well Hurrem was a mother and it was either Mustafa or her kids. Now if you were a parent and knew that the likely out come if the brother from another mother came to power was the death of all or most of your kids don't tell me you wouldn't do the same. Just saying. Mahedivron tried to poison Hurrem while she was 8 or 9 months pregnant then killed Memhnet by poison.
Dear Fatma, If you want to supports Mustafa all you have to due is preparing strong council & scholars instead of chasing for handsome men
Ikr, almost all Suleiman sisters that fought Hurrem except Sah, is not even on Hurrem's level but somehow managed to fight with her.
Fatma is not even on the level of Mihrimah, her intrigue is annoying. Honestly, Hurrem would mop the floor along with her if she wasn't a Sultana.
Edit: She actually does mop the floor along with Fatma.
If Mustafa was alive Maybe Bayazid would be alive too...
Mustafa was the hope of Bayazid and now he knows that from now this war is between Selim and him and definitely one of them would be dead...🥲
7:11 excellent rustem. Rustem and hurrem rocks
Mustafa loved his sister mihirimah but she betrayed him for the sake of a mother who refused to accept her when she was born and forced her into marriage with a much older man. 🙄. Also people keep forgetting that Mahidevran saved Mehmet from drowning when he was little. So she also had Mehmet killed when he was older to protect her child not because she always hated him.
Saved him from drowning just to preserve him for the gratification of murdering him. Insane.
Mahidevran never saved Mehmet bottttt! She killlled Mehmet! If mustafa became sultan he would killll Hurrem’s all sons! Hahahaha
Mihirima and Bayezid were Mustafa's step brother. But see how they love their brother.
Hurrem you will pay for the blood in innocent inshaAllah
Hahahahahah! Hurrem never killled Innocent?
Mahidervan killled innocent mehmed and she paid! Karmaaa!
Hurrem never killled innocent. Mahidervan killled Mehmed and she paid with mustafa.
in real life in real life Mustafa was killed by a letter that Hurrem and his daughter are said to have created.
"It's easy to blame me and Rustem for everything. But do not forget that it wasn't me who gave the order to kill Mustafa".
Well, you did anything but that, Hurrem. And yet you have the nerve to feel offended by these accusations. What a hypocrite
Hurrem was not offended? She was very calm as Fatma and Gulfem were screaming🤣🤣
Fatma should blame Shah huban , who's role in making Mustafa doubtful in Suleiman's mind initially
Crocodile tears of mihrimah 😆
Like Mahidevran’s when she killed Mehmed
@@sarahdemir776 there's no such thing in history, check history nd say blahh blahh
@@athirasr.8784 hahahahahaha! In real history Hurrem also didn’t have something to do with Mustafa so? We are talking on movie you🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@athirasr.8784 what real history you🤡 we are talking on Series! In real history Mihrimah and Hurrem never had annything to do with Mustafa’s death. He was executed as traitor by Suleiman! You🗑🗑
@@sarahdemir776 it's well obvious y tht tyrant killed his own son, will u kill ur son for power. It's a well manipulated script by that snake hurrem mihrimah and rustem. Whole world knows still here there are idiotic fans of hurrem saying blahh blahh 😆😆😆
Mustafa❤Bayesid❤️🙏🙏❤️❤️
hurrem is the most crual sultana ever, i couldn't watch the drama till the end bcz of all the atrocities she did
kosem??
Hahahahahahahaha! She is smart and strong! Stop cryiiiing! What show are you watching?
Hahahahahaha! Hurrem is kind, smart and strong! She is protttecting her children! What show are you watching? Hahahahaha
You helped by stealing Mustafa’s seal!
How dare fatma talk like that to valide sultan??
HURREM WAS NEVER VALIDE
Fatma sultan was the Padishah sister...Hurrem just married to his brother doesn't mean hurrem is above Fatma sultan
@@hilldarniehilary8025 ofc she is above fatma
She is free woman, legal wife and mother of next sultan
She outranks fatma
@@DimSK. how could sister in law outrank a sultana? .hurrem has no royal blood..never will outrank Fatma sultan..but hurrem was very rude since the beginning of the series .she was not respect valide sultan or Suleiman sister's
@@hilldarniehilary8025 hurrem sultan outranks fatma
After episode 42 and 63 she is above them, that's what history says
Hurrem sultan in her life outranked all the sisters of Suleiman and mahidevran too
As free woman, legal wife of the sultan and ruler of harem, her rank and position is above that of fatma/hatice/Shah/Beyhan and mahidevran
It was Suleiman himself who made it that way, the only two titles who outrank hurrem sultan is valide sultan and sultan but since valide sultan passed, she took valide sultan position too after episode 123 so it's just Suleiman who outranks her
Meltem Cumbul would be a very good Hurrem. There is something lacking in Vahide's performance, I don;t think she can channel the right emotions while playing Hurrem. But of course Meryem was perfect for this role
What a murderer family. No shame. No guilt. A father kill his own son. A stepmother who is a liar n feel no shame n guilt leading a husband to kill his own son.
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Does anyone here knows what episode to watch on how nurbanu died. Thanks
Mustafa was so precious😪🥲
Hürremnek meg az édesanyját, az édesapját, testvérét ölték meg, végig kellett ezt néznie, majd a Palotába vitték ágyasnak.
Exactly
Mustafa's mother had Hurrem's son killed too. They were all in a circle of revenge and the children had to suffer:(
When Hurrem hears Mustafa is dead, it gives me goosebumps. After years of fighting she had won
I love how whenever Mahidevran and Mustafa elluded or outright confessed to trying or wanting to kill Hurrem and her kids, no one said a word. No one was punished. It was no great sin. Meanwhile, Hurrem plots to kill Mustafa, and suddenly, she's the great villain, even if she did it to protect her children. Ultimately, she is right: Suleiman is the one to blame. She planted the seed of doubt, but he gave the order to kill his own son. He protected Mustafa from Hurrem many times before. He could have done it again, but he didn't. There was something inside him that didn't trust Mustafa, and that makes sense. With a conniving, murderous mother like Mahidevran, he probably knew his sons with Hurrem wouldn't survive a single day if Mustafa became sultan. He wanted Mehmed to succeed him, but fate had other plans.
Fatma looks like an aunt to hurrem 🤣
and witch hurrem looks like grandmother to fatima hahahahhahah botttt
Come on please! If Mustafa got the throne; he would do exactly the same for his brothers. Power of rulers does not accept shadows… Understand that!
These comments section just sick me in the show Mustafa is a loyal and kind and justice prince to everyone but everyone here seems to be happy for his death, in Turkish and Arabic version everyone are sad for Mustafa
As usual, the 🧥👖apparels/👑crowns/👗👘gowns/💍💎📿jewels are beyond description ❗❗❗❗❕❕❕❕‼️‼️‼️‼️
If this is true, then this is the main reason for the Ottaman Dynasties Downfall.
Bqahahahahahha! Really bot, who told you? Read history! Otttoman Empire fell in 1922, that’s hundreds years after Hurrem you trrrasshhh! Read history ahahahahaha
Lmaooo whatttt? Prove your words? I am Turkkish! Go read history you🤡🤡
The empire stayed strong hundreds more years after Suleiman and Selim.
The Ottoman’s empire ended in 1922 - that’s more than 400 years after selim, due to internal stagnation, costly defensive wars, European colonialism, and nationalist revolts among its multiethnic subjects. So READ HISTORY you 🤡🤡
Your Mustafa was nothing for my country Turrkkey. hahahaha
Oh really? You decided so, mustafa’s cllown?
Read history- the empire was strong hundreds years after Selim and transformmed to Republic of Turkkey in 1922. Mustafa was most weakkk sehzade.
You are embarrasssing! Hahahahaha!
Sorry guys really frustrated after this scene. From the beginning I supported Hurrem. I hate Musthafa Bcoz of Mahidevran. But at this moment a small frustration. That's it. In this series Musthafa has been potraited as a kind one. I don't know how Musthafa was in his real life. Any way someone suggest me a Good Author to read about Ottaman Dynasty.