I love how this universe started off with the goal of basically making superheroes less convoluted, starting with Spiderman who was still a decent guy and then they hired writers who turned everyone else into the kind of people who would exist in The Boys.
@@cristianobrogna1225 "realistic" there's the magic word it's a comic/ fantasy there's a reason most classic heroic tails stay timeless while mose "modern/realistic" takes on them are very interesting at first but never stay long-term, best example being the ultimates universe.
The thought of Hulk rampaging through the city completely shit-faced and trying to “smash” because Banner refused to touch grass is the funniest thing I’ve seen in a while
I genuinely hate how Mark Millar ruined a legitimately good scene with Thor vs Hulk by making Hulk say that Thor's attacks made him "horny for Betty again", my god
@@macro3751 Ennis is capable of great stuff with a good editor to keep him in line- Millar is just mediocre at best most of the time though I did like Super Crooks a lot.
Am I the only one who finds it incredibly stupid that they were all bullying the guy whose suppressed anger surfaces as a literal indestructible rage monster? Like, no one was surprised that night when they found out Hulk was going on a rampage, right?
I think by that point he couldn't transform into the Hulk anymore, then he decided to inject himself with a bigger dosis with the Cap's blood mixed in it
The Ultimate comics were certainly...something, but one thing that stuck with me was the sheer amount of cannibalism present in some stories, specially this universe's version of Venom, since it was more of a parasite it actually was eating Eddie from inside out so it needed to feed on other beings to survive, and man, the way they depicted Venom assimilating other people was disturbing, in many pannels you could see the despair of the victims while being assimilated by the black suit, to these days it gives me chills.
A lot of people think that Venom is a cannibal but the original 616 venom doesn't eat people, he's a complex anti-hero with complex morals. Instead people are thinking about the 1610 Venom and Mac Gargan Venom both versions love eating anyone. In fact the The 1610 ultimate universe symbiotes are much more creepy, animalistic, and wild than the Klyntar symbiotes.
We always bash the A-list heros for their plot armor, but Giant Man cupping The Hulk like a bug and calling him _"little man"_ without getting his hands ripped off def qualifies, imo. Also, Hulk comparing being beaten by Thor's hammer to foreplay is just...wow. Ultimate Hulk is a nightmare.
There was a 2006 animated movie based on this team And with a similar scene Except when the Hulk broke out of his hand, he went straight for Hank's throat, squeezing it until he passed out. He then tried to cave his chest in with a jump but was interrupted mid air
In the Ultimate Universe, almost all the Avengers were as strong as each other like the Justice League members. While weaker than the Hulk, they can still damage and go to toe with him. Similar to how Green Lantern and Aquaman can go toe to toe with Superman but still lose. So it's not plot armor.
@Ant the Fool well in the ultimate universe, Mjolnir is just really freaking heavy, so it's a bit less impressive But still cool when he smacks Thor with it
The Ultimates and Marvel Max is Marvel's reaction to DC's (thanks Vertigo and Kingdom Come lol) gradual yet drastically dark tone in the 90's and the more edgier independent prints like Image Comics.
@C R for a lot of comic runs set in that Earth yes. But the Ultimates is the reason we got Samuel L. Jackson as Fury, the 2008 Iron Man film (aka MCU) and Miles Morales.
@@Noor-rk9sf I mean yeah, good things came out of a bad place and were done better by other writers. That's weirdly common for Mark Millar (the main Ultimates writer); he has a history of making terrible, juvenile, edgy comics, that other people adapt into pretty good stuff.
The panels of it where the wasp flashes the hulk in the hopes of calming him down, reminds me of an Irish Myth of Cu Chulainn. In the story Cu Chulainn had been enraged and transformed into a grotesque monster (his riastrad), and the people of ulster had no way of calming him down. So they gathered up the towns women and flashed him, embarrassing him long enough for the men to grab him and tods him into a barrel, which exploded due to Cu Chulainn's body heat. The second barreled boiled and evaporated, and the third managed to calm him down and revert him back to his child state.
Between this, Wasp flashing him and many MANY other stuff we can conclude that the Ultimates really didn't know how to write women as anything but horny sluts
If I remember Correctly in this comic, when Captain America was in the Tank He Mocked The Hulk by Saying Hulk was Gay and He Literally Shouted "HULK STRAIGHT"
it actually happened afterwards, during the Chitauri invasion Captain America lied to the Hulk, saying the aliens called him a sissy boy. Hulk believed him and attacked the spaceships
and it wasn't the first time it happened. Right before this happened, Captain America was fighting against an alien who went by the name of Kleiser, but couldn't defeat him. What he did next was tell the Hulk that said alien was having an affair with Betty while he was in prison. The Hulk then proceeded to beat up the alien until his healing factor was barely working and then ate him
I always find it funny when people in the comics belittle or insult Bruce. Then act shocked when the Hulk comes out and goes on a rampage. It's like punching a hornet nest and then acting suprised when the Hornets choose the path of Unimaginable Violence!
Never will i forget the panel when Cap was told to surrender to which Cap promptly nearly sliced the villain in half with his shield before pointing to the letter on his head shouting "YOU THINK THIS LETTER ON MY HEAD STANDS FOR FRANCE!?"
The reason why the other ultimate comics doesn't work in terms of making their characters into A holes like ultimate spiderman is because ultimate spiderman is actually a teenager so it's a lot more reasonable for him to act as such (even if he doesn't mean to come off as a jerk on purpose). Also most of the other ultimate comics (other than ultimate daredevil and ultimate fantastic 4) sucked because they had weak plots and dialogue
@@roachdoggjr1454 I cant remember if it was ultimates or not but I remember quite a few weird stories involving the fantastic four. Maybe not all looking bad but probably mr. fantastic. could be wrong.
@@Worstedfish Reed tends to be a dick in basically any dimension, except Ultimate, where, since everyone else is a raging asshole, Reed's normal brand of self-absorbed dickery tends to pale in comparison.
Hulk technically can't even get drunk. His healing factor gives him an incredibly fast metabolism that almost instantly filters the alcohol. He also can eat as much as he wants without gaining weight.
@George Snell banner can but hulk can't, there was a comic where she hulk needed to get stronger so she worked out for a few months and trained mma and when she turned into she hulk all that extra strength got multiplied and she was a beast in combat
"Okay, so the ultimate universe is essentially putting famous marvel characters into the real world...What do you think would be the best way to do that?" "I dunno mate, let's make most of them creepy arseholes"
I like how edgy teenagers like yourself think realism/Real World is everyone is an immoral asshole/Supervillain. You're the type of person who think The Boys, is peak Superhero media.
Wtf, just wtf. Its messed up that Bruce & Hulk did all of that because he's horny, what's even more messed up is that Betty thought it was flattering. Hulk: *Smashes and kills countless of people in Manhattan* Betty: *waterfalls*
I remember I got this comic, from a hulk comic book mashup. I was confused, like why it was so weird, when comparing it to what I was expecting, and why was it so bad. I was kinda small though, and I kept observing wasp's side melons.
I gotta be honest. While the bad aspects like cannibalism, jerky nature and unnecessary violence are messed up, the good parts like the calm moments when some of these characters (mostly Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Wasp) act like real friends; calm down a while; having some character development; them not always acting like jerks; the cinematic scope; nostalgic feeling from the 2000s as a millennial; the realistic and modern aesthetics; and inspiration for the MCU are what made me come back for the Ultimates 1 and 2 along with Ultimate Spider-Man when it comes to Ultimate Marvel.
I can't deny a part of me wants to know Hulk's game plan if he got Betty. There's no way she'd survive anything he did, so ... was he just happy with cuddles and sweet talk?
I kind of feel bad for Bruce he was surrounded by assholes and then when he was weak and now in control of himself Captain America of all people hits him. IDK I guess it feels weird to see them act like characters from a bad adult cartoon.
I don’t think Hulk “clapping” Betty is even physically possible 😂☠️. We need one of these science TH-camrs to break down the science of “The Hulk Clap”
the ultinmate comics runs started so good in my opinion. not perfected, but great. They had room to improve and make it really good, make the world grounded and reall yet still being si-fi, have characters be real yet still likeable, have characters go through tragedy and arks, and not make it drepresson 24-7. It's to bad that didn't happen. I mean, what the f@#$ck happend. It just got worse, incestaul, and cannibalistic. I think the writters were given way to much creative controll beause it wouldn't mess with their main line of books, so they did just allowed them to do whatever they wanted. Just because they are good writers doesn't mean they don't have bad ideas.
I think it's more like nobody stepped in and reminded them 'these are super hero stories. You're supposed to root for the heroes because they are good people, flawed, but good.' instead they went with 'everyone sucks, these people just suck in a way that ISN'T completely abhorrent'
@@DBfan106 ultimate spider man worked since Peter was good but flawed since he was a teenager who make stupid choices I think that's why that one is remembered the most
I gotta be honest. While the bad aspects like cannibalism, jerky nature and unnecessary violence are messed up, the good parts like the calm moments when some of these characters (mostly Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Wasp) act like real friends; calm down a while; having some character development; them not always acting like jerks; the cinematic scope; nostalgic feeling from the 2000s as a millennial; the realistic and modern aesthetics; and inspiration for the MCU are what made me come back for the Ultimates 1 and 2 along with Ultimate Spider-Man when it comes to Ultimate Marvel.
Honestly, the Ultimates cartoon did such a better job at making this fight work. It literally goes from "Oh good, it's the Hulk looking for a fight" to "OH GOD THE HULK'S LOOKING FOR A FIGHT" real quick whilst not making the entire cast look like jerks.
I gotta be honest. While the bad aspects like cannibalism, jerky nature and unnecessary violence are messed up, the good parts like the calm moments when some of these characters (mostly Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Wasp) act like real friends; calm down a while; having some character development; them not always acting like jerks; the cinematic scope; nostalgic feeling from the 2000s as a millennial; the realistic and modern aesthetics; and inspiration for the MCU are what made me come back for the Ultimates 1 and 2 along with Ultimate Spider-Man when it comes to Ultimate Marvel.
I only liked the ultimate Spider-Man But the part that where so disturbing and made me stay away from the ultimates Was the hulk being a porn dog and also cannibalism and black widow being a Russian agent who killed Jarvis and murdered Hawkeye family
I really love Ultimates 1 and 2 because you're not supposed to take them seriously. They're like if Michael Bay made an Avengers movie. Genuinely funny dialogue and fun action sequences. These characters aren't meant to inspire or be heroes. These are the lunatics you get to save the world.
I gotta be honest. While the bad aspects like cannibalism, jerky nature and unnecessary violence are messed up, the good parts like the calm moments when some of these characters (mostly Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Wasp) act like real friends; calm down a while; having some character development; them not always acting like jerks; the cinematic scope; nostalgic feeling from the 2000s as a millennial; the realistic and modern aesthetics; and inspiration for the MCU are what made me come back for the Ultimates 1 and 2 along with Ultimate Spider-Man when it comes to Ultimate Marvel.
And you want to know what's worse? The animated movie based on this abomination was written by the same guy and it was A LOT better than what they printed for us What was holding him to write this thing right?
That was the entire point of the ultimate universe where the characters were complete opposites of their 616 prime counterparts the only one who remained noble and caring was Spider-Man
@@Mannyhdz0052 The original point of the Ultimate universe was just to begin it all over again, have the characters fit better into a more modernized world, and not have so many years worth of continuity baggage. And who cares anyway -- it was disgusting and shitty whether someone meant it to be or not. I don't make friends with people who set out every morning to be disgusting and shitty either.
Honestly they should of just use the Max series for this types of shit they we're doing in the Ultimate since the Max was dark and gritty and scream The Boys vibes.
@@TitularHeroine then you missed the entire point of the ultimate universe while it's technically set in a more serious realistic perspective tone it shows how superheros would be If they were more grounded, it's something that has been established throughout the ultimate comics idk why you are acting brand new lmao
I would have made the Hulk rampage the city in an attempt to attract and kill those Ultimates for being jerks towards Banner Like punishing the half of NY for what they did to him (i know this reason might not be original but it's way better than Hulk wanting to clap Betty's cheeks)
I can't actually believe that The Hulk smashed half of new York and killed probably thousands just to "smash" Betty. Ultimate universe fucked up bro👁👄👁
I swear the only good run of the ultimate comics was Spider-Man. But that was mainly because Brian-Michael Bendis actually knew how to write good stories and characters before he forgot how to
Ultimates was a huge influence on the MCU. The Triskelion was first in Ultimates, the cell they keep Hulk in at the end of this story is the cell they put Loki in in the “Avengers” movie. The whole arc of the team being in disarray and fighting with each other for the first part of the movie only to come together to deal with the Chitauri is basically a cleaned-up version of “Ultimates.” Millar’s take on the characters could be a bit edgy but this was solid work. Sort of fell apart when he handed it off to other writers, though. I also really like evil incel Ultimate Reed.
@@Juancr2006 I believe Evil Incel Ultimate Reed is at the center of the new Ultimate Universe event they’re running. I have not kept up with recent comics
I gotta be honest. While the bad aspects like cannibalism, jerky nature and unnecessary violence are messed up, the good parts like the calm moments when some of these characters (mostly Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Wasp) act like real friends; calm down a while; having some character development; them not always acting like jerks; the cinematic scope; nostalgic feeling from the 2000s as a millennial; the realistic and modern aesthetics; and inspiration for the MCU are what made me come back for the Ultimates 1 and 2 along with Ultimate Spider-Man when it comes to Ultimate Marvel.
@@djf881 Nick Fury being black in the MCU as well as future marvel comics also originated from ultimate if I recall. One of the good few results of Ultimate.
And I know there's zombie Marvel universes where people literally get eaten and disemboweled every single day. But this truly has to be one of the most disturbing and disgusting Marvel universes I've ever witnessed. 🤮😷
At least in the zombie universe, the zombies have a odd tradegy going on. If they don't eat flesh, they lose the craving so the fact they ate entire worlds shows how little willpower they have.
Yeah, the ultimate were a weird era. Like you said, the incest between quicksilver and scarlet witch. With them alluding to wolverine, being their actual father of them, while watching them have sex. While Ultron was being all jealous. Speaking of sex, the sex tape as well was really weird with Tony and Natasha. The fact that everyone never acting like themselves. I understand what they were trying to go for, but it didn’t work. But it’s a good thing to go back to honestly. It just shows the history of what we love nowadays.
I liked Ultimate Spiderman and X-Men they had a good idea with this Universe but went out of control in my opinion. Imagine if these were movies nowadays lol Snyder would have a thrill directing these characters
I love how this universe started off with the goal of basically making superheroes less convoluted, starting with Spiderman who was still a decent guy and then they hired writers who turned everyone else into the kind of people who would exist in The Boys.
I suspect the whole universe was Marvel's attempt at the boys lol
There's a timeline where the Ultimate Line was closer to the original comics.
And less convoluted.
They were more realistic tho.
Captain America being ultra conservative and super violent made more sense, dude was form the '40s
@@cristianobrogna1225 "realistic" there's the magic word it's a comic/ fantasy there's a reason most classic heroic tails stay timeless while mose "modern/realistic" takes on them are very interesting at first but never stay long-term, best example being the ultimates universe.
@@cristianobrogna1225
Based.
"HULK WANT FREDDIE PRINZE JUNIOR" is a line that lives rent free in my head 😂
The thought of Hulk rampaging through the city completely shit-faced and trying to “smash” because Banner refused to touch grass is the funniest thing I’ve seen in a while
Same
I could imagine Freddy laughing his ass off reading this comic.
This is still what I think of whenever I hear his name.
Along with a self injected image in my head of a horrifically shocked face Freddy Prince Jr staring in silence.😂
I genuinely hate how Mark Millar ruined a legitimately good scene with Thor vs Hulk by making Hulk say that Thor's attacks made him "horny for Betty again", my god
no way thats real?? I thought it was edited by the youtuber for comedy wtfff hahahah
@@monty8615 I read this comic like a year ago, everything said here is real and happens
Is no one gonna say it ? OK then I'll say it, "Hulk smash!"
@@peronafanmanThey really made Hulk say he’s “horny” in a comic WTF 🤣🤣🤣
@@AdamAddictL for what audience was that comic intended for??
Thor: "By Odin's beard, you truly are down bad"
He just like me Fr fr
This entire comic feels like something out of The Boys
Mark Millar has always been a worse Garth Ennis.
@@kabronex9877 and Garth Ennis is pretty bad as is.
@@macro3751 Ennis is capable of great stuff with a good editor to keep him in line- Millar is just mediocre at best most of the time though I did like Super Crooks a lot.
@@kabronex9877 a fair statement.
It wad the boys before it was a thing
Am I the only one who finds it incredibly stupid that they were all bullying the guy whose suppressed anger surfaces as a literal indestructible rage monster? Like, no one was surprised that night when they found out Hulk was going on a rampage, right?
Ultimate marvel gas lit the fuck outta Bruce. No wonder he joined up with Reed
I think by that point he couldn't transform into the Hulk anymore, then he decided to inject himself with a bigger dosis with the Cap's blood mixed in it
Then Cap literally kicked him when he was down in the end of it all.
@@cameronlapage7386 seemed very out of character
@gabemark8662 no?
The Ultimate comics were certainly...something, but one thing that stuck with me was the sheer amount of cannibalism present in some stories, specially this universe's version of Venom, since it was more of a parasite it actually was eating Eddie from inside out so it needed to feed on other beings to survive, and man, the way they depicted Venom assimilating other people was disturbing, in many pannels you could see the despair of the victims while being assimilated by the black suit, to these days it gives me chills.
A lot of people think that Venom is a cannibal but the original 616 venom doesn't eat people, he's a complex anti-hero with complex morals.
Instead people are thinking about the 1610 Venom and Mac Gargan Venom both versions love eating anyone.
In fact the The 1610 ultimate universe symbiotes are much more creepy, animalistic, and wild than the Klyntar symbiotes.
Yeah Captain America is essentially the Soldier from Team Fortress 2 in this universe
I remember the Ultimate Spider-Man Game in PS2 you could jump around as Venom consuming people basically
As someone into vore i can assure you whoever was writing them had a kink for that shit
@@wendigowithaninternetconne9594 ☠️☠️
Betty low key belongs to the streets after thinking what the Hulk did was flattering.
Low key!? Bruh lol
low key?nah bruh hight key altho i dont think there are streets for her to belong anymore since the hulk destroyed them
3:54
That is real. I thought it was fake.
Bro if she had her way there would be no streets to belong to 😰
Mark Millar did Hulk, Bruce, and Betty dirty in this universe.
Damm, with the way the avengers were treating Banner beforehand, you'd think this was in the Boys universe
yeah from what i heard a lot of people from that universe act like assholes a lot of the time.
@@naolidecomisso4108 in reaction, decent ppl, like hughie, have to treat the pieces of shit worse to keep them in line
@@naolidecomisso4108 Spiderman is the only pure hero and is killed for it
@Alchemist Of Steel ultimate Tony's a pretty decent guy too I think. Definitely the least terrible avenger
@@thahotkidd he seemed like one of the worst from what I saw. Didn’t he give a blind guy sight against his will?
We always bash the A-list heros for their plot armor, but Giant Man cupping The Hulk like a bug and calling him _"little man"_ without getting his hands ripped off def qualifies, imo.
Also, Hulk comparing being beaten by Thor's hammer to foreplay is just...wow. Ultimate Hulk is a nightmare.
There was a 2006 animated movie based on this team
And with a similar scene
Except when the Hulk broke out of his hand, he went straight for Hank's throat, squeezing it until he passed out. He then tried to cave his chest in with a jump but was interrupted mid air
In the Ultimate Universe, almost all the Avengers were as strong as each other like the Justice League members. While weaker than the Hulk, they can still damage and go to toe with him. Similar to how Green Lantern and Aquaman can go toe to toe with Superman but still lose.
So it's not plot armor.
@@mrroboshadow and when he started brute force scooping up Mjölnir
@Ant the Fool well in the ultimate universe, Mjolnir is just really freaking heavy, so it's a bit less impressive
But still cool when he smacks Thor with it
@@mrroboshadow movie name?
The world's most terrifying compliment (threat): the hulk finds you attractive
Well fuck
Hulk: "Me thinks you look mighty breedable."
@@knightsaber3155 Man just live underground for the rest of your life if he thinks that or go to another planet one that's isolated.
@@alexmercer5414
_(hulk flying through space with a look of determination)_
**Crazy On You guitar riff plays**
It's somehow scarier than the Hulk's Rage alone.
the ultimate universe outside of spider-man just feels like the boys comics tbh, really weird and bad in a lot of the same ways
Exactly my thoughts
The Ultimates and Marvel Max is Marvel's reaction to DC's (thanks Vertigo and Kingdom Come lol) gradual yet drastically dark tone in the 90's and the more edgier independent prints like Image Comics.
@@Noor-rk9sf Well, it was a pretty bad reaction.
@C R for a lot of comic runs set in that Earth yes. But the Ultimates is the reason we got Samuel L. Jackson as Fury, the 2008 Iron Man film (aka MCU) and Miles Morales.
@@Noor-rk9sf I mean yeah, good things came out of a bad place and were done better by other writers. That's weirdly common for Mark Millar (the main Ultimates writer); he has a history of making terrible, juvenile, edgy comics, that other people adapt into pretty good stuff.
The panels of it where the wasp flashes the hulk in the hopes of calming him down, reminds me of an Irish Myth of Cu Chulainn.
In the story Cu Chulainn had been enraged and transformed into a grotesque monster (his riastrad), and the people of ulster had no way of calming him down. So they gathered up the towns women and flashed him, embarrassing him long enough for the men to grab him and tods him into a barrel, which exploded due to Cu Chulainn's body heat. The second barreled boiled and evaporated, and the third managed to calm him down and revert him back to his child state.
Ok
That's interesting. Thanks for sharing bro
I love Ireland's mythology. I remember reading that one.
Now this is something i didn't know about cu chulainn, interesting.
Child state? It means they gathered all the women to flash a kid? 💀
I still respect the fact that he was supposedly trying win the cheeks for himself and banner
real friend is yourself after all
You left out one thing: Betty didn't think it was flattering, she thought it was hot.
I wonder if she cuts herself simply because she likes the pain?
@@libertyprime5923 no she likes others to be in pain
Between this, Wasp flashing him and many MANY other stuff we can conclude that the Ultimates really didn't know how to write women as anything but horny sluts
Hulk Smash takes a new meaning.
Canonically anyway
I don't know what's worse: that or Playing Hide the Zucchini?
If I remember Correctly in this comic, when Captain America was in the Tank He Mocked The Hulk by Saying Hulk was Gay and He Literally Shouted "HULK STRAIGHT"
Captain america called him a sissy boy
it actually happened afterwards, during the Chitauri invasion
Captain America lied to the Hulk, saying the aliens called him a sissy boy. Hulk believed him and attacked the spaceships
and it wasn't the first time it happened. Right before this happened, Captain America was fighting against an alien who went by the name of Kleiser, but couldn't defeat him. What he did next was tell the Hulk that said alien was having an affair with Betty while he was in prison. The Hulk then proceeded to beat up the alien until his healing factor was barely working and then ate him
don't get me wrong, Captain America is still a piece of shit, but he sure as hell wouldn't insult the Hulk if it wasn't for the tactical advantage
Unironically a dialogue I wanna see in modern television
I always find it funny when people in the comics belittle or insult Bruce.
Then act shocked when the Hulk comes out and goes on a rampage.
It's like punching a hornet nest and then acting suprised when the Hornets choose the path of Unimaginable Violence!
i think his powers was taken in the universe
Never will i forget the panel when Cap was told to surrender to which Cap promptly nearly sliced the villain in half with his shield before pointing to the letter on his head shouting "YOU THINK THIS LETTER ON MY HEAD STANDS FOR FRANCE!?"
The reason why the other ultimate comics doesn't work in terms of making their characters into A holes like ultimate spiderman is because ultimate spiderman is actually a teenager so it's a lot more reasonable for him to act as such (even if he doesn't mean to come off as a jerk on purpose). Also most of the other ultimate comics (other than ultimate daredevil and ultimate fantastic 4) sucked because they had weak plots and dialogue
You mean the character of ultimate Daredevil? Cuz he never had a solo comic in the ultimate universe.
@@Fragrantcanary he had a mini comic with elektra in the ultimate universe
@@ItsOver9000Productions that can’t be what he’s referring to cause those two runs were mid as fuck
The ultimate comics were alot more like marvel trying to make their own version of the boys
Ultimate Spider Man works cuz he was written like a modern day hormonal teen
I don’t think anything’s more terrifying than seeing a Hornball Hulk running at you
“Destroyed half of new york to clap some cheeks”😭😭😭😭😭
It's clobbering time!
Fair trade tbh
The ultimates make captain america virtually unlikeable unless youre a sociopath.
It makes everyone unlikeable except spiderman and the fantastic four
@@roachdoggjr1454 I cant remember if it was ultimates or not but I remember quite a few weird stories involving the fantastic four. Maybe not all looking bad but probably mr. fantastic. could be wrong.
Daredevil was also a decent human being. He did come off as a jerk at times but he was still a good guy
@@Worstedfish Reed tends to be a dick in basically any dimension, except Ultimate, where, since everyone else is a raging asshole, Reed's normal brand of self-absorbed dickery tends to pale in comparison.
@@Worstedfish well the Mr Fantastic of the ultimate universe eventually went crazy and became a worse supervillan than Dr. Doom so...
Hulk technically can't even get drunk. His healing factor gives him an incredibly fast metabolism that almost instantly filters the alcohol. He also can eat as much as he wants without gaining weight.
Fat Hulk rolling around would be something to see
@@JimboDoomfaceOld Man Logan got you covered.
But what if Banner wants to build muscle & needs to bulk?
@George Snell banner can but hulk can't, there was a comic where she hulk needed to get stronger so she worked out for a few months and trained mma and when she turned into she hulk all that extra strength got multiplied and she was a beast in combat
@@darinneal3964 Interesting.
Taking Thunder Clap to a new meaning
underated comment
Bro this comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
thank u mr Lucifer
Bruh😂😂😂
"Okay, so the ultimate universe is essentially putting famous marvel characters into the real world...What do you think would be the best way to do that?"
"I dunno mate, let's make most of them creepy arseholes"
So the boys then but with less substance
I like how edgy teenagers like yourself think realism/Real World is everyone is an immoral asshole/Supervillain. You're the type of person who think The Boys, is peak Superhero media.
@@albertwesker6153 for real
@@jasonjackson8111 what
@@albertwesker6153 remember this was before the show The Boys, so it's actually got WAY more substance just with spiderman.
Wtf, just wtf. Its messed up that Bruce & Hulk did all of that because he's horny, what's even more messed up is that Betty thought it was flattering.
Hulk: *Smashes and kills countless of people in Manhattan*
Betty: *waterfalls*
And all because those pathetic attemps for "the Avengers", shield and Betty herself were jerks towards him the whole time
Some guy: Why did you do it Hulk?
Hulk: Da ass.
I remember I got this comic, from a hulk comic book mashup. I was confused, like why it was so weird, when comparing it to what I was expecting, and why was it so bad. I was kinda small though, and I kept observing wasp's side melons.
Lmao
I didn’t need that last detail
I would have done the same thing
2hy the last detail I'm confused lol
last detail is crazy
doin the HULK voiceover definitely made me lose my ish completely, what a video lmfao.
Well, should the Ultimate universe ever be adapted to the screen, Will Smith has something to work his Hulk audition tape off of.
“FREDDIE PRINZE JR! KEEP BETTY’S NAME OUT YOUR F*CKING MOUTH!”
There was 2 ultimate avengers movies that I watched as a child
@@goldenfoxy23 alien nazis invading wakanda right? I swear I've seen that movie but whenever I mention it my friends think I'm insane
@@breadbreadonthefloor I didn't think anyone else watched it!
Watch the Ultimates, they’re horrible people, but not as creepy. Bruce is still treated like shit
That face of hulk looks like that meme with Shaq eating the hot wing
Lmao
"What was marvel cooking?"
No, "what did they buy from Heisenberg?" is the better question.
*HULK SMASH* has a whole new meaning now 🗿
Hulk *Nut*
Seriously ultimate Spider-Man and miles morales is the only saving grace for that era
Ultimate X-Men and Ultimate Fantastic Four were good for a while too....until they weren't
giving hulk smash a whole new meaning
Bro what??! That panel of Stark and Widow.. I wasn’t ready for that 😂
There was a certain tape in that universe... .
@@WERTYUIO821 probably the great leak to ever happen
I gotta be honest. While the bad aspects like cannibalism, jerky nature and unnecessary violence are messed up, the good parts like the calm moments when some of these characters (mostly Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Wasp) act like real friends; calm down a while; having some character development; them not always acting like jerks; the cinematic scope; nostalgic feeling from the 2000s as a millennial; the realistic and modern aesthetics; and inspiration for the MCU are what made me come back for the Ultimates 1 and 2 along with Ultimate Spider-Man when it comes to Ultimate Marvel.
I can't deny a part of me wants to know Hulk's game plan if he got Betty. There's no way she'd survive anything he did, so ... was he just happy with cuddles and sweet talk?
No. The phrase "Hulk Smash" exists for a reason, to the benefit and/or detriment of anyone around him, no matter the current definition.
She can take it
I kind of feel bad for Bruce he was surrounded by assholes and then when he was weak and now in control of himself Captain America of all people hits him. IDK I guess it feels weird to see them act like characters from a bad adult cartoon.
Man's powered by dangerous levels of gamma rizziation
*I cannot describe the boiling anger i have for this comment right here.*
2:30 I remeber I had to stop reading and take a walk.
Still mad that captain kicked Bruce. Everyone treated him horribly and had it coming.
Why does hulk look like he's from Baki hanma in the thumbnail 🤣⚰️💀🤦🏽♂️
3:22 Gotta love that Cap kicked Hulk straight In the nuts
I like how everyone, even a deranged horny hulk are polite enough to use Freddie Prinze Jr.’s full name at all times
Marvel writers making sure the heroes do the weirdest shit while the villains get character development and sympathy
2:29 lmfao how many takes did it take to do this without laughing
Wasp flashing Hulk 😅
Funniest sh*t I’ve seen all day!
Dang, this made the new 52 look like DC New frontier.
This insinuates that the New 52 was bad. We got some of the best movies from that era. >(
Ultimates is like if Micheal Bendis decided to one more day everyone.
3:06 I mean, this is the most realistic thing it could happen. Booba affects everyone
And Bruce still got done dirty in the end, boy cant catch a break
I don’t think Hulk “clapping” Betty is even physically possible 😂☠️. We need one of these science TH-camrs to break down the science of “The Hulk Clap”
the ultinmate comics runs started so good in my opinion. not perfected, but great. They had room to improve and make it really good, make the world grounded and reall yet still being si-fi, have characters be real yet still likeable, have characters go through tragedy and arks, and not make it drepresson 24-7. It's to bad that didn't happen.
I mean, what the f@#$ck happend. It just got worse, incestaul, and cannibalistic. I think the writters were given way to much creative controll beause it wouldn't mess with their main line of books, so they did just allowed them to do whatever they wanted. Just because they are good writers doesn't mean they don't have bad ideas.
I think it's more like nobody stepped in and reminded them 'these are super hero stories. You're supposed to root for the heroes because they are good people, flawed, but good.' instead they went with 'everyone sucks, these people just suck in a way that ISN'T completely abhorrent'
@@DBfan106 ultimate spider man worked since Peter was good but flawed since he was a teenager who make stupid choices I think that's why that one is remembered the most
I gotta be honest. While the bad aspects like cannibalism, jerky nature and unnecessary violence are messed up, the good parts like the calm moments when some of these characters (mostly Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Wasp) act like real friends; calm down a while; having some character development; them not always acting like jerks; the cinematic scope; nostalgic feeling from the 2000s as a millennial; the realistic and modern aesthetics; and inspiration for the MCU are what made me come back for the Ultimates 1 and 2 along with Ultimate Spider-Man when it comes to Ultimate Marvel.
Down bad don't even begin to describe it
The Big Gulp of Down Bad
It’s like the ultimate universe was written by teens.
Worse...it was written by the shock jocks who were let off their leash (Mark Millar being chief among them).
@@admech590 are you sure there’s a difference?
@@dante_0962 Chiefly in biological age.
@@willchurch8376 but mentally?
Now that is the true definition of down bad
Calling Thor a hippie made me laugh too hard and choke on blunt smoke. 😂
Honestly, the Ultimates cartoon did such a better job at making this fight work. It literally goes from "Oh good, it's the Hulk looking for a fight" to "OH GOD THE HULK'S LOOKING FOR A FIGHT" real quick whilst not making the entire cast look like jerks.
Ultimates movie
Ms. Marvel in EMH
Logan in Evolution
Etc.
The few things that were better in the adaptations than the original.
I gotta be honest. While the bad aspects like cannibalism, jerky nature and unnecessary violence are messed up, the good parts like the calm moments when some of these characters (mostly Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Wasp) act like real friends; calm down a while; having some character development; them not always acting like jerks; the cinematic scope; nostalgic feeling from the 2000s as a millennial; the realistic and modern aesthetics; and inspiration for the MCU are what made me come back for the Ultimates 1 and 2 along with Ultimate Spider-Man when it comes to Ultimate Marvel.
I only liked the ultimate Spider-Man
But the part that where so disturbing and made me stay away from the ultimates
Was the hulk being a porn dog and also cannibalism
and black widow being a Russian agent who killed Jarvis and murdered Hawkeye family
I really dislike Captain America due to the in the ultimate comics peter took a bullet for him and Cap didn't even acknowledge him for it
@@Mannyhdz0052 I really wanna see 616 Cap beat the shit out of Ultimates Cap now. Hopefully in Secret Wars 2015.
They are not the avenger, they are the boys. Treating Bruce like that. They create more villains than heroes.
So what you are saying is that, in this story, Hulk wanted to...
smash
Yep. This has Mark Millar written all over it.
Hulk funny asf in this comic
Hey, at least the avengers here got a redemption arc, ay? :P
You’re voice for Hulk is the highlight of the video for me! 😆 Fantastic!
I would hate to be this universe’s Betty lmao 😂😂😂😂😂
That Betty is horrifying
I really love Ultimates 1 and 2 because you're not supposed to take them seriously. They're like if Michael Bay made an Avengers movie. Genuinely funny dialogue and fun action sequences. These characters aren't meant to inspire or be heroes. These are the lunatics you get to save the world.
I gotta be honest. While the bad aspects like cannibalism, jerky nature and unnecessary violence are messed up, the good parts like the calm moments when some of these characters (mostly Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Wasp) act like real friends; calm down a while; having some character development; them not always acting like jerks; the cinematic scope; nostalgic feeling from the 2000s as a millennial; the realistic and modern aesthetics; and inspiration for the MCU are what made me come back for the Ultimates 1 and 2 along with Ultimate Spider-Man when it comes to Ultimate Marvel.
“Hulk has this feeling that he needs to clap so he starts clapping,INSTANTLY ENJOYS IT!!!!!”- By minute movies
Peak hulk voice fam
Reading this comic as a kid was a horrible experience didn't even know it was the same comic but this definitely unlocked a memory
The main problem with the Ultimates run is Mark Millar.
And you want to know what's worse? The animated movie based on this abomination was written by the same guy and it was A LOT better than what they printed for us
What was holding him to write this thing right?
Hulk was so down bad he turned into donovan
I will never understand how Marvel higher-ups didn't see how stupid, gross, and fucked-up the entire Ultimate project was.
That was the entire point of the ultimate universe where the characters were complete opposites of their 616 prime counterparts the only one who remained noble and caring was Spider-Man
@@Mannyhdz0052 The original point of the Ultimate universe was just to begin it all over again, have the characters fit better into a more modernized world, and not have so many years worth of continuity baggage.
And who cares anyway -- it was disgusting and shitty whether someone meant it to be or not. I don't make friends with people who set out every morning to be disgusting and shitty either.
Honestly they should of just use the Max series for this types of shit they we're doing in the Ultimate since the Max was dark and gritty and scream The Boys vibes.
@@TitularHeroine then you missed the entire point of the ultimate universe while it's technically set in a more serious realistic perspective tone it shows how superheros would be If they were more grounded, it's something that has been established throughout the ultimate comics idk why you are acting brand new lmao
@@Mannyhdz0052 Yeah okay. And you might be right. And I also still don't give a shit. It sucked.
If the reason for the rampage was different, this would be a really good Hulk comic. It shows how uncontrollable and deadly he is.
I would have made the Hulk rampage the city in an attempt to attract and kill those Ultimates for being jerks towards Banner
Like punishing the half of NY for what they did to him (i know this reason might not be original but it's way better than Hulk wanting to clap Betty's cheeks)
I can't actually believe that The Hulk smashed half of new York and killed probably thousands just to "smash" Betty. Ultimate universe fucked up bro👁👄👁
I can't unsee that the thumnail of Hulk after Wasp flashed him just looks like the meme of that time Shaquille O'Neal was on Hot Ones
Ok I knew about Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, Wasp get eating, but an Avengers sex tape?!😳 Honestly all that sounds like some BOYS shit.
Black Window and Tony Stark get married in at least one universe. In that one they had a tape.
The title alone will attract the entire marvel fanbase
Spider-Man is literally the only normal one I'm this continuity
aside from dating someone who can be described as his sister...
@@TheChckster ultimate comics was a mistake
@@TheChcksterwait who was he dating?
This still holds up very well today.
Should definitely do more of this just found this channel and Hulk definitely was down bad
I swear the only good run of the ultimate comics was Spider-Man. But that was mainly because Brian-Michael Bendis actually knew how to write good stories and characters before he forgot how to
Really cool that Strong Mad agreed to collaborate to make this one.
Brings a whole new meaning to “hulk smash” don’t it?
Ultimate hulk rizz…incredible rizz if you will
The incredible Ruzz
@@Mulletman_Comics please dlete this
Ultimates was a huge influence on the MCU. The Triskelion was first in Ultimates, the cell they keep Hulk in at the end of this story is the cell they put Loki in in the “Avengers” movie. The whole arc of the team being in disarray and fighting with each other for the first part of the movie only to come together to deal with the Chitauri is basically a cleaned-up version of “Ultimates.” Millar’s take on the characters could be a bit edgy but this was solid work. Sort of fell apart when he handed it off to other writers, though. I also really like evil incel Ultimate Reed.
"Evil incel ultimate reed" wtf bro that's gonna stay in my head for a while
@@Juancr2006 I believe Evil Incel Ultimate Reed is at the center of the new Ultimate Universe event they’re running. I have not kept up with recent comics
I gotta be honest. While the bad aspects like cannibalism, jerky nature and unnecessary violence are messed up, the good parts like the calm moments when some of these characters (mostly Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye and Wasp) act like real friends; calm down a while; having some character development; them not always acting like jerks; the cinematic scope; nostalgic feeling from the 2000s as a millennial; the realistic and modern aesthetics; and inspiration for the MCU are what made me come back for the Ultimates 1 and 2 along with Ultimate Spider-Man when it comes to Ultimate Marvel.
@@djf881 Nick Fury being black in the MCU as well as future marvel comics also originated from ultimate if I recall. One of the good few results of Ultimate.
Imagine killing dozens of people and destroying half of an entire city of roughly 8 million people and you _still_ get blue balled
Gives a whole new perspective on "Hulk smash"😳😳
I still hold that ending close to my ❤
That brother starving💀
The "WTF" at the end says it all. 🤣
bro was down cataclysmic
And I know there's zombie Marvel universes where people literally get eaten and disemboweled every single day. But this truly has to be one of the most disturbing and disgusting Marvel universes I've ever witnessed. 🤮😷
At least in the zombie universe, the zombies have a odd tradegy going on. If they don't eat flesh, they lose the craving so the fact they ate entire worlds shows how little willpower they have.
This is like if Frank Miller decide to take a shot at Marvel Comics.
just found your channel loving the videos. this by far is the best, truly a gem
One of the few times the hulk has actively tried to help Banner without their lives being in danger
That's gonna be stuck in my head for a while
Yeah, the ultimate were a weird era. Like you said, the incest between quicksilver and scarlet witch. With them alluding to wolverine, being their actual father of them, while watching them have sex. While Ultron was being all jealous. Speaking of sex, the sex tape as well was really weird with Tony and Natasha. The fact that everyone never acting like themselves. I understand what they were trying to go for, but it didn’t work. But it’s a good thing to go back to honestly. It just shows the history of what we love nowadays.
I liked Ultimate Spiderman and X-Men they had a good idea with this Universe but went out of control in my opinion. Imagine if these were movies nowadays lol Snyder would have a thrill directing these characters