Weird USSR Trumpet
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- I bought this broken trumpet off eBay for about $15, and did some basic repair work in order to bring you this video. I've got one more odd USSR instrument on the way for your delectation. Hope you enjoy!
The opening piece of music is called Gabreiel's Oboe.
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I personally don't think Trent gets enough recognition. He has really good reviews and deserves it
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matthew bench he is #1
I love your profile picture
Its obvious why he doesn't have as much recognition:
He's Kiwi
Russian form of quality isn't what we think of, which is something that's extremely well made and will last a long time. The Russian idea of quality is something fairly cheap and very easy to repair.
Or easy to replace. Just look at their WW2 military doctrine.
I got a soviot trumpet and he's way over exsaserating it.
Perhaps it was desinged to survive at extremely cold temperatures like Sibiria
@@Pilsvergiftung I have one and its just great it was just the fat his was abused.
i have a soviet made trombone that has been fixed (un dented) and new parts like a tuning slide have been replaced and it still leaks air
Oh the things we brass players have to overcome. You get a beautiful tone and actually at the end your articulation is decent.
Soviet design is interesting, in that they can't rely on craftsmanship. The design has to be simple, any complications will be totally mucked up in production. In order to be effective, it has to be capable of being constructed by a hung over Moskovite on a Monday morning.
I.E. the Mosin Nagant, and AK 47.
e.g.*
I think i.e. works too here, even though using i.e. as a final element is a bit odd
Perry Parsons the Russian definition of quality isn't what Westerners think of when we say quality. To us, we think of something that's very well made and will last forever. For the Russians, they want something simple and easy to repair on your own
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and that is how the yugo was made
You sounded great, but one problem: you had a perfect chance to play the soviet anthem
During my recent travels to Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan I played one of those trumpets. It was in quite good condition and it was generally an enjoyable experience!
When I started playing trumpet back in 1993 I played one of these! Or something very similar. I've changed quite a few rotary trumpets in my first years on trumpet and most of them sounded as we say in Russian "like a night pot"... Partially maybe because I wasn't any good player yet :D When I got an old German piston valves B&S it was like a blessing! A few years later I got a 4335 Yamaha and that felt almost like driving a Mercedes after a Bajaj.. After I finished school I had to give the Yamaha back and return to the B&S. What was blessing once felt really bad now, also there were air leaks. So one can imagine how bad my first trumpets were.. Because of that most Soviet trumpet players had prejudice against rotary trumpets. For example, I was very surprised to find out that nowadays rotary trumpets are often more expensive than piston
I hope none of your Wall Of Stuff fell down in the earthquake, and that everything else remains well with you.
Idea for this trumpet should you be unable to get the third valve working well: put it in the "down" position and lock it that way, and pretend it's a two-valve G bugle.
Hi Scott, thankfully everything in the garage was alright. The pantry was another story however...
We live in earthquake country too, and this is why we have strings across the front of our pantry shelves, about an inch and a half up (4 cm) from the edge. Things tend to vibrate to the edge because shelves do sag whether you can see it or not, but the string is enough to keep them from toppling over while not interfering (much) with normal use.
Glad to hear that's the extent of the damage though. It could have been much worse.
Trent Hamilton Hello how are you? whats the name or whats piece from is That brass excerpt at the beginning of your videos?
@@solonemanuelwhitetigernava571 Gabriel's Oboe.
That trumpet is a soviet military instrument that I've seen. They are suprisingly rare and that's very cool.
You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter! Good job making it work again.
There must be a more than a million horns out there, that need repair, I bought a "Henri Gautier Virtuoso" silver plated trumpet, for $21.00......after a few minor repairs, it plays wonderfully, warm tone. What a bargin!!
Your Gabriel's oboe solo in the beginning was marvelous everytime. Your vibrato is to die for.
Beautiful sound and vibrato :) Rotary valves are cool =D
Trent, definitely ALL rotary trumpets have the different direction of rotation of the 3rd valve.
Great video, interesting instrument! but one thing about the rotary valves: i think i have almost never seen an instrument with rotary valves, where all valves move in the same direction. Most of the rotary-valve trumpets, tubas, tenorhorns (in germany at least) have one valve, that turns in the opposite direction. And it works very well!
I wonder if people who teach little elementary school musicians have their students come in on their first day with weird things like that and try to play them. I also wonder how many of those playable Soviet horns are still out there.
nice video
Theo Birkholz I was thinking the same thing, but more as a joke, showing up to marching band with one of those
I've got one of dem Horns, I've got no problems playing on it (for a beginner)
Hey, there was not anything else :) I've start to learn trumpet in 1986 and Czech trumpet Amati was a dream.
@@youldhead4017 same story!! I played Amati for a year! There came a HUGE case with it. Like a proper travelling case. The valves were bad, the sound compare to Yamaha was poor. Funny that nowadays cheapest Chinese trumpets are better than most of those trumpets that we had in USSR..
@@igor-iofe Yep.. In 1993 I've got a chance to try new Yamaha Xeno trumpet. That was - "OMG! It is a miracle! :)
PS: But I still own that Amati :) As nostlagic part of interior :):):)
amazing sound you got out of that cheap trumpet trent
Great choice on the intro, Trent. My school's orchestra, from James Hargest College in Invercargill, is playing Gabriel's Oboe at our school prizegiving. I'm playing cello. If you've read this, thanks for your time and thanks for the great videos.
Thanks for your comment :)
You're in invercargill and not playing the march invercargill? Sad life
Trent Hamilton Could you do more vids with a saxophone?
You look fancy today
Ps. I seen like almost all of your videos even though I'm a woodwind player
I agree with matthew. Trent also has a terrific sense of humor.
You warmed up for once
Spogetus LET'S SEE WHAT DWELLS ON THE DEPHS OF MY TREELER
Love that you took my advise, even though some other people also suggested it. Keep up the awesome videos, I love them (:
found your channel through youtube's suggestions, love it!
I'm not even that into instruments, and these videos are all super interesting to me :) Keep up the fun work!
I love Gabriel's oboe, it's such a beautiful, relaxing song. (0:08)
Excellent playing!
Very interesting stuff. I would like to see some of that soldering repair work in a video!
I'm SO early! Love you Trent! U R awesome!
Nice tone!
I think that will help me play the tpt part of USSR anthem. One of my bucket list part.
Congrats on 15,000 subs!
Thank you!
Trent Hamilton the last USSR meaning/ acronym is the correct one (you could maybe just say Soviet Union )
The last one you said in the video
How have you come in to possession of 2 different soviet trumpet like instruments? Just curious, I've not seen a rotary valve trumpet in my life except on your videos
I search on eBay :)
sredgor hcaz he's a communist sympathizer so he gets free soviet russia merch
Trent Hamilton I commented on one of your other videos asking how to identify the brand name of my trumpet because it is old and the logo was rusted off I can email you a picture of the trumpet if you would like to see it yourself
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sredgor hcaz
It's not only trumpet like, it's a trumpet ;)
That kind of trumpet is called german trumpet and isn't often used anymore, not even in germany ;D
First time I've heard Gabriel's Oboe on a trumpet, but it was beautiful regardless!
Another wonderful video! Thank you for letting me learn about instruments in a fun way. Also, I love your accent!(Sorry, I couldn't help it, I'm American)
Hello Trent, I saw the intro of this video, and I had to say how good you are at brass instruments. I'm just suggesting you should do more woodwind instruments. Such as a saxophone?
My high school band is using Gabriel's Oboe as our ballad for our marching band shoe
great video, keep it up!
Love it ! A soviet trumpet repaired by you :-)) lively introductory song .
Amazing Video!
could you do a video on mouthpieces explaining them more and how to choose the right one for you?
Nice love the Mission theme
That thing might have some problems, but that tune at the beginning was very pretty.
You playing Gabriel's Oboe was amazing o:
Woah that trumpet resonates a lot.
Sounds good
my band director had one of these in middle school. it was in much better shape tough
Hello i love your content!
Your vibrato is pretty great.
The rotors fit so loosely that there is poor compression. That is why the pitch is so unstable. These rotors were meant to be sealed with heavy oil, like 3-in-1 or motor oil. In order to apply such oil, you have to remove the rotors from their cylinders. This is also true of better-made German rotors of the period ca. 1900. Once you seal these rotors with heavy oil, the trumpet will play much better.
it's like a piston valve layout, long leadpipe
Hey Trent I was wondering if you could please help some Tuba players knowing and finding good sounding Tubas. For not the price of a brand new car. That would be really nice thank you.
Wessex Tubas could be a good place to start. I've heard good things about them.
WWBW.com has a pretty good selection at a nice price :)
Just dropped a grand on a b flat baritone that is 2500 new and I'm loving it
Btw been playing for 4 years
In Soviet Russia, trumpet plays u
And u blyat can’t play such a capitalist music by our great communist trumpet
I saw one of these in the Izmailovsky Market in Moscow back in 1998. Sadly, I was on the last day of my trip and didn't have enough left in my souvenir budget to pick it up. :(
Love your videos, I've spent an entire evening looking at them. I know you're not interested in polishing a turd, but it sounds to me like both the 1st and 2nd valves are a little flat. Perhaps they need a millimeter or two of tubing shaved off. I'd be interested in knowing if you decide to check it with a strobe whether I was right or not! Keep up the good work.
Hey Trent I've been looking for a double trumpet case lately and was wondering what bidding sites you get all your awesome instruments from. I've checked eBay but haven't found any great deals please help
russian/ ex ussr country instruments are always really odd, i have a tuba that was made in east germany and it is very strange. It was built for easy repair, screws/ clamps instead of sodder on basically every normal sodder point, plays closer to a sousaphone than a standard tuba. Breaks occur a bit more often but original parts are fairly cheap I would highly recommend
Local tuba dealer started selling Russian tubas shortly after the USSR broke up. Valve quality was horrible, so the dealer sent them a German valve set. The Russian guy sent back a set that was perfect, and these horns are now huge sellers. No incentive in the Soviet days to produce quality. Money talks!
Its OUR trumpet now
I've picked up two Soviet Era trumpets off of ebay.One is a "Leningrad".I had to transliterate the Cyrillic characters.Its in relatively nice shape;I've played it and it seems to play in tune.This one has piston valves.It came with the stock mouthpiece,but I use my Rudy Muck 17C.The other is either nickel or silver plate and was in horrible shape.I ended up removing the dents and creases from the bell as best I could with a ball peen hammer.The valves are badly worn on it.I've yet to play it.
God bless the Soviet MOUTHER Land
Trent, hello, thank you for great videos, what the music playing in oppening?
Grand Choeur Dialogue by Gigout.
Ohhh. I have a similar trumpet :):) I keep it as a memory of my teacher. But it really weird. I have my forst trumpet also. It was Amati imported into USSR from Czechoslovakia and it was a little bit better :)
Can you do a review on a plastic euphonium. I play the euphonium in band and I would like to buy a type of one but they are way to expensive
Great video Trent. How goes your search for a French horn?
+1 trumpet in the notification squad :)
Trent where can or do u find good instruments for lower prices or what brand do u buy
My wall of many things: mostly Trumpets, cornets and bugles
Brass Players can get a decent noise for $15, string players struggle to get a decent noise for less than $2000
We also struggle to get a sound most times for less than 1,000 mosttimes
*most times
Bruh who tf spends 2000 buck on any instrument. Bruh just get a used one and repair it.
@@yeezet4592 string instruments are a completely different beast than wind instruments and if you have a good string instrument it will actually get more expensive as time goes on the typical example is the stradivarius violin which can typically go for more than 8 million dollars
I'm jealous of this guy honestly. I still use the trumpet my parents got me in 6th grade. I can't afford anything else.
Hi Trent,
I was wondering if you have ever played a Schiller/JinBao euphonium before. If so, any thoughts about how it played?
Keep in mind all of your old used instruments have several DPO Dreaded Previous Owners each starting with zero knowledge of the instrument. My guess is YOU can fix the too high tension yourself easily. The different key heights may be related, or may require 3 new springs. I posted 2 near identical shorts with information as first comment. Both titles are:
ClockSpring DrumSpring
This is the end piece of the information:
Drum Spring Setup
(Drum Springs slip over square shaft)
So many of 1/4 turns from no tension on shaft to have sufficient force to close valves as desired, but not so much they are difficult to press.
I could measure distance and pressure for each of 4 instruments I have that use drum springs. Before I work on any of them.
Those walves are much better and much more durable than regular valves
Have you gotten a new camera? Any way the videos look a lot better
The Gaming Prophecy If he did, I wonder what brand and model.
The Gaming Prophecy it's better lighting
I have one exactly like it. IF I could fix the leaks, it would play better. I had to trim the cork stops for the levers because it was partially venting. Valve action is very stiff. You have to slam the levers or you'd partially vent. I have a 4 valve rotary flugalhorn with 4 valve putting it in either A or Bb. It is Swiss design.
Thank you for this video. I was laughting out loud. Actualy i was learning to play trumpet using stuff like this. Yes, i am from "bears and vodka"land. Different levels of theirs buttons is not an idea of construction or super-design ))) every instrument of this type has its own pattern )))
Funny. Funny video )) thank you so much. You are great. Tonight i am watching your videos. BTW... i want to buy a pocket trumpet. Exactly Ostrich. Made in wellknown country. The price is to good to present a good thing. But i realy like the colour. It`s not black. It`s blackest and i like it.
I know about the tuning problem, but i hope it goes mostly in lower tones which i hope i will not use much ( i hope, just hoping that i won`t).
What can you tell me about this idea? I have my standart yamaha 2335 which is good to me, but i want new trumpet because i want small and black. Is it worth to play in... maybe jazz club in kinda jam or maybe street playing?
why does he put vibrato on every note that's more than 1 beat
its a style
Sean Clark because like most people he doesn't like bland notes
Sean Clark it's a brass band thing (from my experience). If you ask any brass band player to play a straight note the majority can't play without vib and they don't even realise
Flat unmodulated pitch is artificial sounding and accompanies tense playing. Besides, a synthesizer is much better at it.
Haha, Yesterday I had a performance with James Morrison.
Can someone tell me which is better, rotary valves or normal piston valves?
I know this doesnt particularly relate to this video but what mouthpiece do you prefer for trumpet. I am in highschool and I own 2 mouth pieces a Vincent Bach 5C and a B&S 1.5C. I prefer to play with the 1.5 because it is easier to play higher and lower notes. I am looking for your opinion just for referance. Thanks!
i'm so happy your channel exists! i'm currently working on my grade six euphonium, could you give me some tips on the pieces i'm playing? they are; the ash grove, flamenco and 1 attempt from love's sickness. i don't know if you have heard of these pieces but if you have PLEASE HELP ME!!!! thanks
I've got the sheet music for the ash grove here, but I don't know the others.
brilliant piece, isn't it?
do you have anything that has side action Vienna valves? I'm making a horn and i've been having trouble figuring out how I want the action to look. I did however fix the problem of backpressure which Vienna valves have
Hi, take a look at: th-cam.com/video/m_kdARnryUE/w-d-xo.html
Would you ever sell that it's honestly interesting
Have you heard of a cheap knock off version of the Gansch Horn?
I'm a euphonium player and I was wondering, how did you work on your range? I have an audition coming up and I have to hit a G (I think) which is 4 lines above the staff. What kind of exercises did you do while playing to get to those notes?
how do you find these instruments like the cornet
I really wanna get one of that.
You can get these on eBay for around 140-200 us dollars. Just search "ussr trumpet" and you might even be able to find top action rotary valve (tarv) trumpet or as Trent Hamilton calls it, upright rotary trumpet.
I'm thinking of getting a trumpet, any suggestions that i should get? I already know how to play sorta trumpet, but i don't have one of my own.
looking for some advice. I have a Bach tr300. and the first valve is very sticking and even grindy sounding, the others move but not as well as they should. I cleaned and washed it out twice now, and tried using two different types of valve oil. I'm thinking there is a bigger issue. any ideas ?
I'd recommend getting it serviced as it could be any number of things.
@@TrentHamilton thanks, I'll have someone check it out
sweet
Missed a perfect opportunity to play the Soviet national anthem
It is now the Russian anthem as well, only a few words changed
Hello Mr. Hamilton, Im in the process of repairing an old cornet I bought off of ebay, which requires a bit of solder work. So I tried using a propane torch, but it seems too hot. (The copper starts glowing red hot, and the flame starts turning green, which could indicate burning copper.) So what soldering torch do you use? Also, do you have any additional tips for soldering work?
Hi Nathan, I'm going to be putting up a video about this topic in the next few months, but basically: 1: clean the metal thoroughly. 2: put flux on the parts of the metal you want to solder. 3: heat the metal enough so that solder melts on contact, but not too hot. 3: press solder on to the parts you want, the heat of the metal should melt the solder, and the flux will help it flow.
@Trent Hamilton Thanks!
The Soviet Union had a bit of a motto: "Better is the enemy of Good Enough." It worked exceedingly well for them but explains the less than stellar quality. Very interesting design. I kind of like it...
It looks like that took a bugle, cut a section out, and threw in three rotary valves. I bet that is the reason for the long lead pipe.
I guess that's what I get for posting before I watch the entire video.
If you weren't overseas I would be offering money for that. it's worth nothing, but to me it looks like a diamond in the ruff.
That's like EXACTLY the DDR-Trumpet I have.
Russia has weird trumpets.
America has weird Trumps.
StarTrek123456 we unfortunately have Trumps
@@ultimatu2130 Fortunately*
is that the same trumpet as the one the guy from beirut uses?
If I were to play trumpet, I would play one similar to that.
Still being in school, I have to go with Uninterrupted Silent Sustained Reading.
6:10 Most rotary instruments' rotors are off set
The fact that you didn’t start out with the Soviet anthem disappoints me severely.