Siskel & Ebert Classics - Worst of 1988

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  • Gene and Roger select their 10 Worst of '88.
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  • @davidhayes4840
    @davidhayes4840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    I’m not sure why but watching all these old school siskel and ebert reviews feels like a nice warm cozy blanket wrapped around u

    • @thehouseofcm
      @thehouseofcm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah.

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      They are so good, they are sorely missed. Very few critics today even come close in terms of having the courage to say what they really think. Most just come off as crowd pleasing industry hacks or some sort of petty contrarian rebels. These guys always have strong opinions and yet even stronger arguments to back them up. They articulate their points concisely and without reservations.

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree.

    • @rhettjonke4667
      @rhettjonke4667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Couldn't agree more!

    • @mistermoneyman8899
      @mistermoneyman8899 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lol, I'm literally doing exactly what you JUST said

  • @rodmoore1577
    @rodmoore1577 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    The fact that Sally fields played Tom hanks mom can't be overlooked

    • @fromthehaven94
      @fromthehaven94 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Angelina Jolie as Colin Farrell's mom in Alexander.
      🎤

    • @TIG5574
      @TIG5574 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL, WOW!

    • @rodmoore1577
      @rodmoore1577 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fromthehaven94 yep. Good one.

    • @Laceykat66
      @Laceykat66 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not in Punchline (which I liked) but in Forrest Gump almost ten years later.

    • @rodmoore1577
      @rodmoore1577 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Laceykat66 yeah. That's what I was referring to.

  • @viralbuthow000
    @viralbuthow000 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    "The film about a talking horse and even worse, a talking man." 😂

    • @BudSchnelker
      @BudSchnelker ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I give Gene some credit, that's a devastating line.

    • @assmane999
      @assmane999 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s such a good burn on Bobcat

    • @mikem.3308
      @mikem.3308 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GOLD😂

    • @ronaldshank7589
      @ronaldshank7589 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mr. Ed, revisited! That was a fun TV Show to watch, back in the 1960s.
      Nobody should have copied that, in any way, shape, or form!

    • @maxxt3916
      @maxxt3916 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you pointed out this line! And it was said in such a straight serious way.

  • @humungus3
    @humungus3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    These guys are so sharp and witty and insightful.

  • @Vaporvice84
    @Vaporvice84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Ebert's final thoughts about this new trend in hollywood where movies are made based on formula while new ideas, stories and characters are becoming rarer is sure telling both for the time, and present day.

    • @jasonblalock4429
      @jasonblalock4429 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Because it never went away. Hollywood has always been chasing trends.

    • @littlekingtrashmouth9219
      @littlekingtrashmouth9219 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jasonblalock4429 this is true. However, there was more artistry and subtlety, not to mention more inspiration.
      “Woke” is just another formula, and it makes characters suck. Why Sarah Conner, Clarice Starling, and Beatrix Kiddo are always going to be more interesting than (insert gender swapped reboot Mary Sue here) is because we watched them go through hell and back before they were able to accomplish what they did.

    • @ronaldshank7589
      @ronaldshank7589 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I know what you mean. It's as if it's all been done, and very rarely do we ever see somebody come up with a new idea.
      Just sit me in front of a TV Set, with something like "A Nightmare On Elm Street 4:The Dream Master", or one of the Crocodile Dundee Movies playing, and give me a quart of Coca-Cola, a big tub of Popcorn with a little bit of salt and butter, some Red Licorice, and some Goobers, and I'm good to go!

    • @ronaldshank7589
      @ronaldshank7589 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@littlekingtrashmouth9219Dr. Hannibal Lecter:"Hello, Clarise".
      This movie was taut, horrifying, and so suspenseful, that I've watched it several times, over the years. And: That last line from Dr. Lecter, just before he hangs up on Agent Starling, where he tells her:"I've got to go... I'm having a friend for dinner"...is easily one of the most disturbing double entendres of all time!
      I can believe that I'm saying this...easily...when I say, that I much, much prefer "The Silence of the Lambs" over "Freddy's Dead:The Final Nightmare", any day! Others that are my favorites from 1991 are "Cape Fear", and "JFK"....the movie that, with the inclusion of the Zapruder Film, shows that President Kennedy was assassinated from the front, and slightly off to the right, which actually did two things:1-Caused his head to snap back, and to the left, and 2-Tore a hole through President Kennedy's head, which resulted in a nearly 5 Inch hole beine blasted out of the back of his skull. After that, I knew that Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the killer.

  • @vickihines-martin6058
    @vickihines-martin6058 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    there are no shows like this today. I miss that so much

    • @akfreed6949
      @akfreed6949 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can't piss off the Oligarchs THESE DAYS .

  • @tomfrankiewicz4030
    @tomfrankiewicz4030 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The good old days. I miss this show. Even if you disagreed with them it still was a great show

    • @shenloken2
      @shenloken2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s just as prevalent today as it was with them: Just because they entertained you doesn’t mean you always have to agree with them.

    • @Wolfdragon92584
      @Wolfdragon92584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They often made objective points to their criticisms, which can be tricky considering that films are an art medium and thus, are subjective in their nature. These two guys are sorely missed, and I hope we can carry their legacy by objectively tearing open the rubbish that invades our theaters these days.

  • @redadamearth
    @redadamearth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I was a finalist in the Chicago-Tribune's Teen Film Critics contest in late '88. We (the finalists) went to the Tribune and then to a screening of "Look Who's Talking" before it was released (this was after we ended up being finalists because of our film review submissions for the contest). We then went back and wrote a review of the film. I didn't make it to the winner's circle, as I think my review was overly harsh on it. lol But I was always disappointed that Gene Siskel wasn't there that day, for some reason, as we all wanted to meet him.

  • @AnimationVault
    @AnimationVault ปีที่แล้ว +31

    These are amazing historical documents. It's nice how they noticed the trend even from 1988 of films trying to copy other films, instead of coming from the heart.

    • @mercster
      @mercster ปีที่แล้ว

      There is nothing new under the sun.

    • @Jim222001
      @Jim222001 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t see how Willow wasn’t fresh movie wise at the time at least. Since it is somewhat like Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit books.
      Siskel didn’t even like the fresh Fantasies of the 80’s. Labyrinth was fun and Alice in Wonderland like. Not exactly a total rip-off and Siskel hated it.

    • @Tirgo69
      @Tirgo69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hardly anything new, they also commented on things like the late 70s wave of blockbusters and Star wars ripoffs

    • @redadamearth
      @redadamearth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, it all started in the late 80's, basically. There were still great movies being made in the late 80's and into the early 90's, but a lot of movies had already started to become very formulaic and repetitive by that point. The truly magical period of 80's films - meaning tons of ORIGINAL sci-fi and fantasy films, along with some extremely good comedies and dramas, was really '80 - '86, as the adventurousness and sincerity of films from the '70's was still in the air. But even as a kid, I started noticing that by '87, a whole lot of mediocre material was being released as studios started taking less risks.

    • @AnimationVault
      @AnimationVault 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@redadamearth Right. The result of the "Star Wars" phenomenon - studios didn;t want to make a movie unless it could guarantee an unrealistically huge return. Now we get movies like Top Gun, which was shlock in it's day, heralded as the best thing they have to offer.

  • @goldennuggetofwisdom5068
    @goldennuggetofwisdom5068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I loved willow when I was a kid. It was the coolest movie ever👍

    • @assmane999
      @assmane999 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sometimes our tastes change as we get older and movies don’t hold up when we go back and watch them many years later. Also, you have to understand their perspective of being a critic that has seen this premise ad nauseam

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're bringing it back.

    • @marthademovimaus5140
      @marthademovimaus5140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucas put a headstrong princess and a charismatic bad boy in Willow, just like in Star Wars. Also had a headstrong princess in Strange Magic.

    • @walterhoenig6569
      @walterhoenig6569 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love Willow.

    • @insertnamehere5809
      @insertnamehere5809 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at how they've butchered the remake recently.

  • @shenloken2
    @shenloken2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A lot of prominent critics disliked Willow when it first came out.
    Now it’s such a cult phenom it has it’s own series.
    I always remembered this about Siskel & Ebert: I was always entertained with them but I didn’t always have to agree with them!!

    • @rhyancoleman6462
      @rhyancoleman6462 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Now it is cancelled after just one season and now is removed from Disney+.

    • @pazza4555
      @pazza4555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's probably a cult hit because the kid fans grew up.

  • @nickperkins8477
    @nickperkins8477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I watched Star Wars repeatedly when I was a child; it is one of the first movies I ever watched in my life. I love it, and I watched and really like Willow, as well. I think Star Wars is a superior movie to Willow and I thought that when I was ten. But, I have never been ashamed that I like each movie.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone said it was part of Lucas's flop trilogy with _Howard the Duck_ and _Labyrinth._

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sandal_thong8631 Willow has now made into an amazing TV miniseries on Disney Plus.

    • @rhyancoleman6462
      @rhyancoleman6462 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now it it canceled after just one season

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rhyancoleman6462 It did and it won't last!

  • @DreBourbeau
    @DreBourbeau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    20:03 what a prophetic statement on the modern cinema, even more true now than it was in 1989

  • @garrettdavis6500
    @garrettdavis6500 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to watch these guy's weekly back in the 1980's. Good Stuff.

  • @mesicek7
    @mesicek7 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I'd still rather watch the worst of 1988 than the best of 2022

    • @terryIKE69
      @terryIKE69 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hilarious.... I was thinking the exact same thing

    • @adamsmashups4839
      @adamsmashups4839 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't even know what the hell the best of 2022 is.I stopped paying attention to new releases a long time a go.The last time I went to the cinema was Rambo Last Blood.

    • @imandan1966
      @imandan1966 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      2022 was an amazing year in films, you’re just old

    • @mesicek7
      @mesicek7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@imandan1966 Or maybe you're too young to remember the days before the '4 Superhero movies a year' days

    • @justme-ti1rh
      @justme-ti1rh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@imandan1966 top gun was the only good movie of 2022.

  • @ArthurCSchaperMR
    @ArthurCSchaperMR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "WILLOW" was a good movie.

    • @troysuza2065
      @troysuza2065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Willow, is still a good movie.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it's like they said: kids were too young to see Star Wars, so this was their first live-action movie in the theater that wowed them.

    • @marthademovimaus5140
      @marthademovimaus5140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Willow's not bad but same formula as Star Wars; unlikely hero+ headstrong princess+ charismatic bad boy. Lucas also used a headstrong tomboy princess in Strange Magic.

    • @elphbwckd212
      @elphbwckd212 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never cared for Willow at all. Based on how terribly the series did recently, I'm guessing the nostalgia is not too strong with that movie.

  • @rosemaryfarell5264
    @rosemaryfarell5264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Whoever Pitched Cocktail fair play. Outrageous Concept but a Guilty Pleasure.

  • @TheAathi6
    @TheAathi6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you bro so much for this! I have been seeing this so far in a battered and beaten up version. Now you have posted the best ever version of this! Keep up the great work in preserving the legacy of these two great gentleman.

  • @tristanhandley1622
    @tristanhandley1622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Please yourself first!" Will do mister Siskel!

  • @scottslotterbeck3796
    @scottslotterbeck3796 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love to have both these guys still around, and dissing on all the crap that is out now.

  • @michaelmcdonald8452
    @michaelmcdonald8452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When someone asks “what are some movies that define cinema in the 80s?!”
    I ask “Do you mean good movies that really capture the 80s?”
    Or “Great movies that happen to made in the 80s?”
    Or “Movies that are great examples of the chaotic fluff whose existence illustrates the empty excess of the 80s?”
    For the first two, I offer obvious quality like Ghostbusters, Back To The Future, Wall Street, Splash, Ferris, etc...
    When they want the latter, I say Cocktail and could add Punchline. Both I loved when I was 12 and both I realized later I liked the IDEA of, films that gave me a peek into an adult world that it would later turn out aren’t actually very good.

  • @pmafterdark
    @pmafterdark ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can remember watching this show back i the 80's like it was yesterday. Sure miss these guys.

  • @Casper50002
    @Casper50002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like the VHS 'tracking'

  • @rollotomassi4768
    @rollotomassi4768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    3:15 Glad to see Ebert thought the same thing I did. Is that bar charging a $50 cover? Those two bartenders are selling 5 drinks per hour.

    • @MarvinMonroe
      @MarvinMonroe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha I've never thought about that but that's so true!

    • @oldgroucho2203
      @oldgroucho2203 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      reminds me of what the show Bar Rescue tries to turn every bar into, then they all end up closing down.

    • @rollotomassi4768
      @rollotomassi4768 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oldgroucho2203 Eh. It's like 50/50. You can show someone a way to make a profit, but they're usually in that position because either they're lazy, it's a saturated market or more likely they thought owning a bar would be fun. I also think a number of people did that show so they could get their bar fixed up to get a better sale price.

    • @oldgroucho2203
      @oldgroucho2203 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rollotomassi4768 better sale price is probably right. I just hate when they go into a small local bar that people go to for shots or a beer and have them do fancy moves measuring foo foo drinks that nobody will order after a week. They really just need better bar management and an accontant. I guess that would be boring television.

    • @rollotomassi4768
      @rollotomassi4768 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oldgroucho2203 agree. Especially when they use some super expensive garnish that's only in season during the summer

  • @mickeybitsko9856
    @mickeybitsko9856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In "Cocktail" they spend at almost one minute to mix one drink apiece. John Taffer is not amused.

  • @billlonee9470
    @billlonee9470 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm friends with a number of fairly well-known, nationally touring comics who absolutely love Punchline. Go figure.

    • @Kaddywompous
      @Kaddywompous ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven’t seen it in decades, but I remember loving it. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @piper888
      @piper888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh come on "nationally touring" it's hard to believe

  • @nesaiamon8727
    @nesaiamon8727 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love and miss these guys - but I love Willow!

  • @Jackiedyk
    @Jackiedyk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I actually had that roger ebert home companion book. In my late teens. I would go down to the video store & rent movies Based on what he said were the best movies..

  • @tmotytmoty2
    @tmotytmoty2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love to these reruns of siskel and ebert because it shows how opinions have shifted on certain movies (e.g., Willow, Scrooged), and I never noticed how "offended" Ebert is by some movies that he deems "sacrilegious". He would sometimes not like certain movies for odd reasons. He hated the original "I spit on your grave" for lots of reasons, but he went on and on is his written review about how awful the audience was, and he hated how they laughed at the violence. Of course, this was, literally, all before the idea of "its so bad, its good" was widely popular in culture.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I watched their reviews, but not being from Chicago, didn't read them or buy their books (if they had any).

    • @mercster
      @mercster ปีที่แล้ว

      "Its so bad its good" only became a wide phenomenon as Western civilization has devolved. It used to be relegated to the dregs of society that love to watch things burn down. Now everyone does.

  • @sandal_thong8631
    @sandal_thong8631 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I count 34 movies from 1988 that were worth watching in the theater or on home video. Maybe 6 or 7 worth watching multiple times _(Die Hard, Beetlejuice, Coming to America, The Naked Gun, The Dead Pool, A Fish Called Wanda)_ and maybe _Big._

    • @chrisoakley5830
      @chrisoakley5830 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't care how many times I've seen it but each time I run across Diehard I will stop changing channels and watch it again. It's such a great movie, I just love it.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisoakley5830 What about _Die Hard 2?_ I consider it similar to _Ghostbusters 2:_ successful and worth watching every few years, but not an every-year movie like the originals.

    • @chrisoakley5830
      @chrisoakley5830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sandal_thong8631 Yes Die Hard 2 is pretty good but I don't watch it as much as the original.

  • @mjgyrosdude484
    @mjgyrosdude484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Heartbreak Hotel wasn't a masterpiece but fun in a ridiculous way. I sheepishly enjoyed it

  • @orbyfan
    @orbyfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    In the case of "Cocktail," buy the soundtrack album and skip the movie.

    • @rollotomassi4768
      @rollotomassi4768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every woman loves this movie. Their spouses watch it because they are forced to.

    • @thehouseofcm
      @thehouseofcm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kokomo is gold.

    • @orbyfan
      @orbyfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thehouseofcm It should have won the Oscar, but wasn't nominated; in the movie you can barely hear it, for maybe 30 seconds.

    • @scottyunitedboy2925
      @scottyunitedboy2925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rollotomassi4768 ditto Dirty Dancing. And Ghost. And Save The Last Dance. And a thousand more

    • @davidl570
      @davidl570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good advice about the Cocktail sdtrk.....................but be sure to skip Don't Worry, Be Happy.

  • @itiswhatitaintanditaintwha1427
    @itiswhatitaintanditaintwha1427 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And 'Cocktail' also gave us the absolute worst Beach Boys song 'Kokomo'! 😣

  • @BTLemming
    @BTLemming ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What they said about Willow being enjoyed by kids because they’d never seen anything like it before reminds me of my own feelings about “Avatar.” I absolutely hated Avatar, but still recommended it to people who “never go to the movies” and want to see something big.

    • @redadamearth
      @redadamearth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even as a kid, I knew "Willow" wasn't *quite* as good as the fantasy films of the early and mid-80's, but I still loved it.

  • @rocketking2589
    @rocketking2589 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always watched the "Worst of" shows so I could see them review all the movies I actually liked. Lol 😂

  • @ThomasTVP
    @ThomasTVP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In fairness to Last Rites, which priest or non-priest wouldn't be tempted by Daphne Zuniga?

  • @jlobiafra
    @jlobiafra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Holy shit, I never knew gina gershon was in cocktail

    • @piper888
      @piper888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a pretty sexy scene actually

  • @rabit818
    @rabit818 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If only R & E were around in 2022, nothing but Marvel.
    Tracking, forgot about it

  • @celluloidtherapy5003
    @celluloidtherapy5003 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    These remind me of the before times. Before the world went to sh*t…life was so much more fun, with classic films, great, creative music, and compelling fiction. Never again, will we enjoy a time like that time.

    • @wylier
      @wylier ปีที่แล้ว

      Life in 88 was hardly great tho.

    • @celluloidtherapy5003
      @celluloidtherapy5003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wylier I dunno….I was having a great time! Nintendo, Sega, Heavy Metal, New Wave, Goth, Blade Runner, Beverly Hills Cop, E.T., I could go on and on. I had a decent job @ 22 years old, with a new Camaro, and my own apartment. What was bad?

    • @Ac0ustics0ul
      @Ac0ustics0ul 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wylier were you there? If not, I don't want to hear it from someone with out the proper perspective.. why wasn't it? Speak for yourself..beats this era by a country mile..anyone could cherry pick some exceptions, of course, nothing ws ever perfect for everyone all the time.

    • @wylier
      @wylier 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ac0ustics0ul yes I was alive in the late 80s. I still recall the fallout from contragate, the continuing cold war, and the stock market crash. I guess there was some good stuff too, such as my local team (Mets) winning the world series.

    • @malafakka8530
      @malafakka8530 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Life is often much more fun when you are young. Then real life comes knocking at the door. Make no mistake, life seemed simpler back then as well for me, but I was young without any cares. Each decade is different with their own ups and downs and challenges.

  • @charleswinokoor6023
    @charleswinokoor6023 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the very end when the two of them are typing away, one on an ancient typewriter and the other on a “modern” word processor.

  • @morrisvalentneflatlander4784
    @morrisvalentneflatlander4784 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Talk about prophecy they called out the entire film industry of 2022

  • @newedition2006
    @newedition2006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WORST FILMS OF 1988
    PUNCHLINE 1:28
    COCKTAIL 3:08
    STEALING HOME 5:15
    FAR NORTH 7:50
    VIBE 9:51
    LAST RITES 11:47
    HEARTBREAK HOTEL 13:44
    WILLOW 16:02

  • @philtimedavidfpw
    @philtimedavidfpw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Scrooged is a great movie. How can you dislike a Christmas movie that has the Solid Gold dancers?

    • @kdohertygizbur
      @kdohertygizbur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cuz the movie stunk ..easy

    • @gspendlove
      @gspendlove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kdohertygizbur Wrong.

    • @The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane
      @The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because it doesn't hold the candle to the 1951 film "Scrooge".

    • @StickFigureStudios
      @StickFigureStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SCROOGED is a mess. An occasionally funny mess, but a mess nonetheless.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane You really can't compare Scrooged to a straight adaptation of A Christmas Carol.

  • @Kruppt808
    @Kruppt808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But one thing i do love them doing, tearing movies to shreds. Mostly movies I've never seen or heard of.

  • @blackpeter70
    @blackpeter70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cripes, I used to love Cocktail when it came out. I went to bartender school, and even (still!) have the soundtrack. Oy...

  • @williamkarbala5718
    @williamkarbala5718 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A.) Wow, Scrooged and Willow are on their worst list, it occurs to me that critics are people and can make mistakes too. B.) Brownies are a real thing in mythology, does Siskel think Lucas just made that up?

  • @birdmantd
    @birdmantd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm not saying Cocktail is a great movie but I could easily find way more than 10 movies from that year worse than it. For example where's Mac & Me regarded by some as the worst movie of the 80s? Or Caddyshack 2?

    • @jessecoffey4737
      @jessecoffey4737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      _Mac and Me_ was reviewed in print by Gene (he gave it one and a half stars), but not by Roger, and they did not review the film on their television series. The same is true of _Caddyshack 2_ (to which Gene gave only one star).

  • @rgs8970
    @rgs8970 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dang, was this recorded on Beta? Great quality dub!

  • @markelijio6012
    @markelijio6012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fun Trivia: Some movies such as Scrooged and Big were doing well at the box-office. Cocktail, Bird and Willow were cult favorites for all ages and teens alike. But long-awaited troubled productions such as Vibes, Far North, Heartbreak Hotel, Stealing Home, Punchline, Switching Channels, Sunset, Last Rites and more of which weren't doing well at the box-office because of many production problems.

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both Stealing Home and Heartbreak Hotel got some heartwarming moments.

  • @samuraix73
    @samuraix73 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If they thought Willow the movie was bad, it's a good thing neither one of them is around to see the dreck that is the TV series.

  • @ericnelson9100
    @ericnelson9100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wait, 1988, where was Mac & Me, or did they do a special segment exclusively devoted to it?

    • @darwinblinks
      @darwinblinks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Afte the 70's they rarely if ever included low budget movies in the "Worst Of" It was to take shots at all the shitty Hollywood crap

    • @Hellraiser0601
      @Hellraiser0601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sometimes they said that at the beginning of the worst of the year shows.
      That they go after big budget Hollywood movies, they paid no mind to smaller or unknown movies.

    • @luissegovia8205
      @luissegovia8205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mac and me is the worst film ever, but in Chile was very popular 🤮

    • @sahej6939
      @sahej6939 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darwinblinks they had a show in the 70s?

  • @DMS-pq8
    @DMS-pq8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I watched Stealing Home probably a hundred times since it was constantly on the cable movie channels back in the early 90s. Not a classic by any means but had some good parts

    • @Mickey-1994
      @Mickey-1994 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a very decent movie.

  • @CybeleCotter
    @CybeleCotter ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Scrooged was and is GREAT; in fact I'll call it a classic.

    • @jokerswildio
      @jokerswildio ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree...it IS a classic!

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scrooged is fun but I agree with Ebert about the ending which just didn't work.

    • @chrisoakley5830
      @chrisoakley5830 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never liked it myself but I have to admit that to many it is indeed a classic.

  • @mindcrome
    @mindcrome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I saw Hot to Trot in the movie theater as a kid. It deserves it's place on this list. But Williow no not even, same for Hellrasier II. What is surprising is that Mac & Me and Funny Farm is missing from the list. (Also saw those in the movie theater)

    • @iluvmylovebirdandmybudgiet7729
      @iluvmylovebirdandmybudgiet7729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mac and Me they didn`t review...Funny Farm they both really liked...

    • @WordUnheard
      @WordUnheard ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny Farm. The first movie I ever saw in theaters that I absolutely HATED. I watched it with my dad, and he laughed all the way through. I don't remember laughing once.

    • @Mickey-1994
      @Mickey-1994 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree, how the f@@k is Caddyshack 2 not on the list? That met be the worst sequel of all time.

  • @pjfan1210
    @pjfan1210 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hellraiser II is a great gory movie.

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crazy they picked Willow as "Years Worst" of 1988 since now it's considered a classic with an IMDB rating of 7.2 putting it firmly into great category.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 ปีที่แล้ว

      It came out when I was 17 but I didn't see it until I was much older. So-so.

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sandal_thong8631 I saw in in 1988 when I was 11 and loved it. I think that's why it's so well remembered is it was perfect for it's target demographic.

    • @Mickey-1994
      @Mickey-1994 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can get why two middle aged men didn't like Willow but they went too hard on it. It amazes me that they don't have the god awful Caddyshack 2 on the list.

  • @donovanmedieval
    @donovanmedieval 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I liked Punchline and Cocktail. I had a friend who thought Willow was Star Wars Episode One.

  • @aretnap3653
    @aretnap3653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ebert Looks Like He's Wearing Those "Joke" EyeBall Glasses.
    (It's CRAZY!)

    • @greghester2720
      @greghester2720 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eye glass style of the time, they will be back!

  • @characterandconviction9225
    @characterandconviction9225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just wonder they would think about today's garbage. A sentiment shared by many, I am sure

  • @stornkolson
    @stornkolson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen bartenders in a shit shack in Panama City pull that stuff off, only that nobody clapped.

  • @flmbyz
    @flmbyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They’re lucky the didn’t see (or remember) Mac and Me & Caddyshack II.

  • @erichaynes7502
    @erichaynes7502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Cocktail's tagline was "When he pours, he reigns".

    • @dvhughesdesign
      @dvhughesdesign 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cringe

    • @davidl570
      @davidl570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Almost as cringey as that Don't Worry, Be Happy crap (on the sdtrk.!).

  • @keiljones2902
    @keiljones2902 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    these films are masterpieces compared to today's films

    • @Mickey-1994
      @Mickey-1994 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not Punchline.

  • @pyrodiscoflash6115
    @pyrodiscoflash6115 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They were so right about the Formula and now the " Propaganda Message " replacing Creativity and Originality, also Blaming the Audience for lack of Success as apposed to if it's a Good or even Decent Film

  • @Hammerhead547
    @Hammerhead547 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun Fact:
    All of the club scenes in cocktail were actually filmed in the then recently closed "old wing" of Toronto's infamous Don Jail.
    The set itself was located in the main rotunda of the old wing about 100 meters from the old death row wing and gallows room where more than 50 people met their end between 1899 and the last hangings carried out there (which were also the last executions carried out in canada) on december 9th 1964.

  • @FSU2001
    @FSU2001 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never heard of Punch Line. Surprising considering the stars in the movie.

  • @user-pz7vl1pu9f
    @user-pz7vl1pu9f 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I loved cocktail

  • @8584zender
    @8584zender 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20:08 - aw Rog, you had no idea how bad it would get. Original ideas with original characters telling a novel story?

  • @kathrynpichel4435
    @kathrynpichel4435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Vibes!!!

  • @nickperkins8477
    @nickperkins8477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Scrooged is fantastic. It’s possible that the traditional version of A Christmas Carol was so prevalent in their minds that they just rebelled against the major differences to it Scrooged has.

    • @flaccidusminimus2170
      @flaccidusminimus2170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Siskel actually liked it, only Ebert hated it. It was Murray's performance that turned him off, he sensed too much hostile, negative energy from the guy whereas Siskel had the complete opposite impression.

    • @jokerswildio
      @jokerswildio ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree. Scrooged is now a modern holiday classic

    • @nickperkins8477
      @nickperkins8477 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flaccidusminimus2170 respectfully Roger’s criticism is absurd, in this case. Whether Ebenezer Scrooge or Frank Cross, the character is supposed to have plenty of ‘hostile, negative energy.’

    • @flaccidusminimus2170
      @flaccidusminimus2170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nickperkins8477 Yes, but I think Ebert was trying to communicate that he felt Murray the actor was giving off unpleasant vibes (which he has done before and since), not Frank Cross the character. I do think his 1 star review was excessive. It's one thing to not find it funny, but he seemed to be rejecting a dark approach to the material. If anything, the fault of the film in my view is that it's ultimately too soft.

    • @nickperkins8477
      @nickperkins8477 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flaccidusminimus2170 he was probably of a generation used to perceived ‘cheery’ interpretations of A Christmas Carol and rejected the darkness he saw in Scrooged out of hand. It’s always been a dark story, though. I also think it’s wrong to review Bill Murray the man/personality rather than the work. Reveals a lack of professionalism.

  • @cowetascore8476
    @cowetascore8476 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved most of these films growing up... lol. Oh well. Most would be better than the crap that's out in the 2020s.

  • @teresapflaumer5717
    @teresapflaumer5717 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cocktail is watchable, not too bad.

  • @goldentaco4970
    @goldentaco4970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still don't agree with their assertion, that seems obvious to them, that WIllow is like Star Wars. I'm a huge Star Wars fan so I think I have a strong sense of the essence of Star Wars. Many movies are or were based on the basic formula of good vs. evil. I kind of see why they come up with this but it's kind of a stretch. I think it's because the third one had come out five years before so they were still comparing every fantasy film to Star Wars. I think that Dark Crystal movie came out the same year as WIllow. I am still not sure if I saw that one. But maybe I'm kind of biased. I was 8 or 9 back then.. Willow was my heart lol. "You arrre great.!" I have the Blu Ray. Perhaps I should watch.

    • @jonisilk
      @jonisilk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dark Crystal was '82, 6 years earlier. I remember as we had it on VHS when I was a child and I never saw it in the cinema, but Willow I did see on the big screen (My family ran a cinema so I practically grew up there on a steady diet of 80's classics, I'm about the same age as you, so I can vividly recalI the first few films I ever saw in the cinema were Secret of Nimh, Return to Oz, the original trilogy Star Wars triple-bill.

    • @otakurocklee
      @otakurocklee ปีที่แล้ว

      Siskel and Ebert are idiots. They said Beetlejuice was a Ghostbusters clone.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucas should have found another Saturday serial to do like the recent _Shazam!_ movies. Star Wars and Indiana Jones were based on that genre and it's what he was best at. I don't know if they had war movie serials. It seems like _Saving Private Ryan_ was something like that. They are on a rescue mission, but they have to stop and fight episodically for the greater good.

  • @walterhoenig6569
    @walterhoenig6569 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not the only one who hated Cocktail. Yay!

    • @danielmaher7108
      @danielmaher7108 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I saw Cocktail in the theater when it came out in 1988. I thought it was the worst picture I had ever seen.
      36 years later- it is STILL the worst film I have ever seen!

  • @ThanhLS88
    @ThanhLS88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone have the "A Time of Destiny" review? All I know is that it was a split vote.

  • @BENF802961
    @BENF802961 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss these guys.

  • @pazza4555
    @pazza4555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I hated Cocktail. It was slightly better when I later watched it in German because I don't speak German.

  • @connorbrennan4233
    @connorbrennan4233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don't think Willow was horrible, but it certainly is uninspired as Roger Ebert put it. And I think one aspect that demonstrates this perfectly is the villain Queen Bavmorda. Most of the big '80s fantasy films at the very least had villains that were memorable in one way or another:
    Vermathrax Pejorative in Dragonslayer is one of the most menacing and impressive cinematic dragons.
    Thulsa Doom from Conan the Barbarian was a threatening sorcerer who also had an off-kilter zen quality that allowed him to build a massive army of followers. Plus, he's played by James Earl Jones.
    The Skeses from The Dark Crystal are not only some of Jim Henson's best work, but they also represent the less noble sides of ourselves that we want to supress, but nevertheless, we must balance out with the good.
    Darkness from Legend is played by the amazing Tim Curry and also represents a more hellish yet seductive side to what the Skeses already represent: our dark side that we must keep in check.
    The Goblin King in Labyrinth had the presence and vocal talent of David Bowie if nothing else.
    Queen Bavmorda...doesn't really bring anything special to the table. She's just another generic evil queen that wants to rule the world. There's no personality to her outside of her one-dimensional evil self.

    • @jokerswildio
      @jokerswildio ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what makes her a villain.

    • @connorbrennan4233
      @connorbrennan4233 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jokerswildio But there's nothing else there that makes her more interesting.

    • @nickperkins8477
      @nickperkins8477 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@connorbrennan4233 Jean Marsh sold me on Queen Bavmorda based on her talent and commitment. Plus, the name ‘Bavmorda’ is a unique attention-getter. But, I do agree that it feels bland, overall.

  • @noisepuppet
    @noisepuppet 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw Punchline and Cocktail in the theater in first run. Time well spent eh? Edit: and Vibe, and Willow 😂 And Hellbound and Scrooged, good Lord

  • @hollywoodmkx
    @hollywoodmkx หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scrooged is a bona fide classic

  • @keithroberts9869
    @keithroberts9869 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    13:10 really sounds like Gene broke wind

    • @owlhater270
      @owlhater270 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good catch

    • @telecomgear
      @telecomgear 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol😅 I listened to it multiple times. Perhaps it was Roger?

  • @suicidality2744
    @suicidality2744 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The worst of 88 was better than the best of today. You had real actors giving real performances with real sets and location shooting. Back then, film was truly and art form. Today, everything is a cgi cartoon. Complete garbage.

  • @robertgoulet7886
    @robertgoulet7886 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Cocktail" is the only one of I remember, mostly because of "Kokomo".

  • @peter5.056
    @peter5.056 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think if Siskel and Ebert were alive today, they'd just about hang up their hats and declare mainstream film dead.

    • @chrisoakley5830
      @chrisoakley5830 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's almost what they are doing here for 1988.

    • @themadmattster9647
      @themadmattster9647 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah if these are the “worst” of 1988, then I’d hate to see what that they would think of 2022. They’d probably cancel their show or worse lol

  • @newedition2006
    @newedition2006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They forgot to mention
    -MOVING
    -POLTERGEIST III
    -MAC AND ME
    -They like VICE VERSA like me

  • @PaladinDusty
    @PaladinDusty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember in Star Wars when Luke Skywalker finds baby Anakin floating in a river and he goes to take him to Alderaan, but a long the way he finds Obi Wan who is currently an animal and needs Luke to use the force to turn him back into a Jedi? Then Luke, Han Solo and Obi Wan go to fight Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader with the help of Mara Jade, but everyone gets turned into pigs by the Empire, except Luke for some reason. Anyway Luke sucks at using The Force, so he defeats the Emperor with slight of hand and Han, no longer a pig, kills Darth Vader.

  • @scottfranco9209
    @scottfranco9209 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved Willow!

  • @whyaddnamehere
    @whyaddnamehere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wasn't expecting Willow to be on their worst list. I love that movie and it's a cult classic.
    I'm not surprised they didn't like Hellraiser 2. It's really good, but they were alway harsh on slasher films.

    • @davidl570
      @davidl570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm with them on Hellraiser 2---that movie SUCKED! (And I loved the original).

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidl570 it’s legit one of the worst films I’ve ever seen.

    • @davidl570
      @davidl570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HkFinn83 Ditto! And I remember when it was originally on the show, Ebert said that it reminded him of how you can program the songs on a CD to play in any order--and if all the scenes in this movie were programmed in a different order, it wouldn't have mattered at all. Couldn't have said it better myself!

    • @BishopWalters12
      @BishopWalters12 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HkFinn83 Really? My man, I watch a lot of horror and I can say Hellraiser 2 is nowhere near the worst.

    • @Mickey-1994
      @Mickey-1994 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidl570 It's not that bad for a horror sequel.

  • @SpongeBobfan3646
    @SpongeBobfan3646 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved the movie Vibes!

  • @only257
    @only257 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great 😊

  • @lw3646
    @lw3646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mac and me?

  • @simonfea2
    @simonfea2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my gord, they effed with Willow. All I have to say is I have this movie on my cell phone, and I keep my cell phone with me all the time.

  • @jonathankoziol6573
    @jonathankoziol6573 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These movies look Oscar worthy compared to movies today.

  • @flaccidusminimus2170
    @flaccidusminimus2170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just watched "Cocktail". It's as vapid as they say, but I think the boys misread it. It isn't a "love poem to excess" as there are very few scenes of anyone overindulging. Cruise's character doesn't drink very much himself and is only intoxicated in one scene. Bryan Brown doesn't go down in flames as a result of alcoholism (there's no evidence of him being a heavier than average boozer either) but from depression stemming from his boneheaded investments. I think they overreacted with moral indignation to a shallow movie about a sexual cavalier because of the frenzied state of the AIDS crisis in 1988.

    • @patrickshields5251
      @patrickshields5251 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kind of like how misread Risky Business and Ghostbusters and how you lied to your audience about these movies?

    • @stornkolson
      @stornkolson ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good read. I don't think it was meant to be a feel good film

    • @patrickshields5251
      @patrickshields5251 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stornkolson Just to let you know, Flaccidus Minimus is a liar, a hypocrite, and he downright disrespects people who like the 80s. He lied about the supporting characters in Ghostbusters given nothing to do, and he completely took Risky Business totally out of context to make it look like it was a sleazy film, when it’s not.

    • @piper888
      @piper888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bryan Brown's character, is a bartender doing shots in the morning on a weekday and this is something a problem drinker or alcoholic does🍸🍹

    • @patrickshields5251
      @patrickshields5251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@piper888 Don’t listen to Flaccidus Minimus! He shows no respect to anyone!

  • @Blaqjaqshellaq
    @Blaqjaqshellaq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SCROOGED wasn't all bad: I liked Bill Murray's speech at the end.
    They missed MAC & ME...

  • @kristinschermann6581
    @kristinschermann6581 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure why, but I think I always have had a bit of a crush.on Gene Siskel 😮❤

  • @kkampy4052
    @kkampy4052 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't seen any of these

  • @suzycreamcheesez4371
    @suzycreamcheesez4371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    upper east?

  • @thehouseofcm
    @thehouseofcm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn these are real stinkers but I own Cocktail it was fun and of all these movies I'd give Vibes a chance . It looks weird and fun.

  • @markrodriguez9442
    @markrodriguez9442 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do like WILLOW,Siskel and Ebert.