+purpletoe101 I agree 100%...I didn't always agree with them...But their discussions did convince me to take a look at certain films that I may not have watched if not for these two guys...I will miss them dearly....
@@TheGimpPimp1 Yep. Siskel was particularly bad and non-sensical with his reasons for not liking some movies. But I didn't care. I loved watching them.
@@danielmaher7108 Tell me about it. I can remember seeing the commercial for the 1984 DUNE, and my father saying that we would go see it. We never did. I suppose Mr. Ebert and Mr. Siskel would consider that a good thing, but I've always remembered him saying we would see it, and wondering why we never did, and it reminds me of all the other things that we never did together. I turned thirteen that year, and now I'm fifty-two...much older than even my father was then. Time is evil.
When I was in eighth grade, my best friend and his family were constantly winning radio contests. It was uncanny. His mom won tickets to the local premiere of Sheena. It was rated PG, but it showed Tanya Roberts' exquisite bare breasts, and we could not have been happier. He died a few years ago, and when I think of Star Wars, Sheena, Eye of the Tiger, Mickey (Toni Basil), and a few other fond memories from the early 80s, I often think of him.
I remember cataloguing all the PG movies that cable channels would show during the day which had topless scenes in them. My friends and I had a list, and let each other known when they were going to be on. Those were the days...
Sheena was never intended to be etertaining ..it was a Vehicle to film Tanya roberts with as little clothes as possible .. an artistic vision i whole heartedly support
Not too shocking actually that the price of a movie back then equals about the same as today. The cost of stuff is relative to the money supply and human nature. I guess we value watching a movie about as much now as we did back then.
Films were $5 in 1987 in Canadian money, they knew it was rather high so created $2.50 Tuesdays and that's when all the teenagers went and where the fun was!
S & E were the best. Even though there were many times I did not agree with them. If they gave a film thumbs up, I didn't like it. If they gave a thumbs down, I liked it. And of course there were many times they couldn't agree with each other on liking a film or hating it. But I always gave S & E a lot of respect. They were the Kings of movie reviews.
I used to walk in front of Roger Ebert's home every morning for years and never knew it. Only years later I made the connection while leafing through an old, old issue of Chicago magazine showing extreme closeups of local celebrities' homes. Roger and his wife converted three apartments into a massive single occupancy residence, a part of which was a home theater room. Gene lived a few blocks east in a co-op. A formerly semi-dumpy neighborhood transformed into an area exclusively for the richy rich.
Schush Cannonball Run didn’t give it much to work with. It was a halfway decent premise for a movie and enough jokes for a 30-minute sitcom. About the only genuinely funny moment was Jack Elam appearing from behind a curtain with horror music in the background. The story ran out about the same time the coke ran out on the set. The ending made you embarrassed you were still in the theater.
Sylvester Stallone's singing in Rhinestone (1984) was so awful that he actually won a Razzie award for a song he sang in that movie known as "Drinkenstein."
I can understand not liking Dune, but that one scene they showed was one of my favorite parts of the movie. The worm devouring the spice harvester was a terrific special effect, especially considering doing effects work that involves sand is difficult due to its non-scalability.
I haven't seen the whole film by any means, but that scene does not look as dumb as a lot of other scenes shown on this episode. However, I think Siskel & Ebert chose that scene to showcase how slow and plodding they thought the film was, and you have to remember this was only a year after the much faster-paced Return of the Jedi. I am aware Dune has underwent a lot of re-evaluation among some.
@@TooCooFoYou If I may, Siskel and Ebert were two people who got paid to give their opinion and like many other critics, they thought their opinion could be the only one and mocked filmmakers who actually put their necks on the line to produce a movie. Also, they were highly hypocritical in their standards. Ebert criticized John Carpenter's The Thing as having characters with no dimension to them yet he highly praises a movie like Stranger Than Paradise where the characters are less than two dimensional and the movie lays like a turd for an hour and a half. Critics' words are valuable for the moment. However, movies will live on forever and time is extremely forgiving on a movie. Case in point: Movies like The Elephant Man which were roundly mocked for being slow ("elephantine" some critics used) is rarely found listed without a 4 out of 4 star rating. Even Animal House, which never got above a 3 out of 4 star rating for decades is now considered a 4 out of 4 star comedy.
In the 80s, my family would always sneak in candy because outside snacks were forbidden in our local theaters, so that much hasn't changed in 40 years.
When it came to writing, Ebert was the better writer. I remember when they were on Letterman, Siskel said he felt he would have to quit his job at the Tribune to concentrate on writing.
I just rewatched Dune. It's a mess but a highly watchable mess. Parts of it are endlessly fascinating and the production design is in parts breathtaking.
$5? In the early 1980s my mom would give me a ten dollar bill and that would get me, my brother and two cousins into a double feature with enough money for popcorn and candy.
Well given Stallone made his version of Beverly Hills Cop into Cobra which stunk and I cannot think of Stallone in Romancing the Stone at all so we dodged two bullets there. My guess is if Stallone did make Romancing the Stone we wouldn't have gotten Back to the Future as the success of RtS was what made BttF.
Dune was way to long of a story to fit into one 2 hour film. The sci-fi channel mini series was much better. If someone had a big budget and made a 5 hour or longer film, mini-series, or trilogy, it would be a great film.
It was certainly "Terrible" THEN, but time has been a lot kinder to it over the years (Same can be said for "Heaven's Gate", especially the Director's Cut)
Vividly remember my brother watching this (he was 7 yrs older than me) on early Saturday afternoons and how even the opening sequence was so comforting. He loved the show and even at ~10 yrs old I thought it was great as well because I was there spending time with my big brother. My brother has since passed way too early and I'll always cherish those lazy Saturday afternoons hanging with my brother watching S & E. Life was so safe, simple and comfortable back then.
I think I liked this opening the best. Kinda amusing. Better than putting down their change to get their papers and looking smug. They shld have gone over much more movies. These scenes lasted a while.
Wasn't the only problem. It added the unnecessary sound modules (the Fremen have sandworms, they don't need special guns), some good effects and a lot of bad effects including terrible ornithopters, bad Guild Steersman design, overly grotesque Baron, PAUL MAKES IT RAIN.
"Rhinestone" was really awful. Stallone SINGING is enough to make you run out of the theater! I saw "City Heat" on cable and I can't remember a single thing from that movie. It was a rare film where both critics gave it zero stars in their articles. "North" and "I Spit on Your Grave" are the only other movies I can think of with that dubious achievement. No doubt that Bo Derek's hubby wrecked her career.
I have to say, I read the first 4 Dune novels before I saw the film, and I was still mostly lost when it came to the movie. I mean, I was only 14, but I had no problems understanding the novels.
Dude nothing, I repeat, NOTHING made before the year 2000 (that being anything from the previous century) can even begin to compare to the loathsome garbage we've had flowing out of Hollywood's abscessed anus for the last 18 plus years (that being most everything from the 21st century). With extremely little and very rare exclusions, the vast majority of Hollywood pap has been utterly forgettable and pathetic, destined to be forgotten and reviled by any future society. I guess we just didn't realize at the time, at least most of us excluding myself, how good we really had it back then. I knew we were living through the golden ages, I just didn't know it would all dry up and go completely away one day. 😢 So sad, so very, very sad...
they were pointing out how badly he was squandering his career. I love Burt, one of my favorites, but man, he really did listen to the wrong people- HAL NEEDAM and blew his single best chance of all time, by turning down, TERMS OF ENDEARMENT that won Jack Nicholson an Oscar. Imagine had Reynolds done the film, won his oscar! He'd have all the great parts in the 80's and 90's. Avoided the direct to video junk he got slimed with...
Just for fun, here are all 13 films mentioned, with their current IMDB ratings: 4.9 Sheena 4.0 Rhinestone 3.0 Bolero 5.1 Cannonball Run 2 5.5 City Heat 6.3 Dune 6.0 Friday The 13th, Final Chapter 5.8 Windy City 5.9 The Woman in Red 4.2 Where the Boys Are 3.8 Best Defense 5.8 Harry and Sun 5.8 Silent Night Deadly Night
That was the third movie he was in at the start of his career after 48 Hours and Trading Places. He got paid more than both of the first 2 combined, even though the movie bombed at the box office and the first 2 are epic.
I was just a kid when these were new but I pretty much watched their shows weekly, they are just part of my childhood and part of our shared culture, very much missed, both of them and those years.
i was 12 in 84 and Sheena was one of the greatest films i have ever seen. i watched it over and over and over LOL. along with beast master. i also actually liked Rhinestone. now i know its no great movie and i partially like it because i was 12 and its nostalgic for me. but i would still argue its a dumb fun movie and sometimes thats what you want to watch.
Actually, Burt Reynolds perfectly mirrored John Travolta: They both had a 3 good movies in the 70's, then made crap for the decade, then had one film in the 90's turn their careers around: Travolta 70's: Grease, Saturday Night Fever, Urban Cowboy. Reynolds 70's: Deliverance, The Longest Yard, Smokey & The Bandit. Travolta: Pulp Fiction Reynolds: Boogie Nights.
@@crashburn3292 Cannonball Run II is so bad it hurts. Its completely obvious ...especially Burt & Dom Delouise ...everyone is going through the motions for a paycheck
@Timesthree Thehighest: Well that's correct, Timesthree Thehighest! In fact zebras aren't trainable as horses are, especially wild zebras. So they painted a trained horse to look like Sheena (Tanya Roberts) is riding a zebra hehehehe
I agree with Siskel & Ebert's review. And never read the book. But the real problem I have with the movie is, Kyle MacLachlan's character suddenly preaching about "righteousness" towards the end. As I remember it, most the movie is about interplanetary war, over a hallucinogenic spice. You know, a commodity. Like say, oil. It felt like being sold on a war for oil under the pretense of religion. Or even worse, being sold on a war over LSD, under the pretense of religion. When Sting's character reacted negatively to Kyle's use of righteousness, so did I. It felt like an insult.
City Heat was where Burt Reynolds got hit by a real chair instead of a breakaway chair in his jaw, shattering it, causing an addiction to pain-killers and the start of his career's decline.
7:40: I’m only 23, so 1984 is not something I remember, but this scene is so hilarious in its stupidity. I love that Siskel & Ebert are immediately ready to pan it when the camera turns to the studio again.
I'm fine if people find something to enjoy in it, but it's definitely a terrible film. It's just a complete mess. That was true in 1985, and it's true now.
I always thought that "Dune" the movie was both bad and good. I like the ugly look of the Harkonnens and felt it really captured the even more horrible nature of them in the books (yes, Baron Vladimir is far worse in the books and impossible to show on the screen). I loved the special effects as well. I will admit that the whole script is a terrible adaptation of the book (to many holes in it).
No Derek is still one of the most beautiful women in history.I don't think the problem was so much her acting, but more in the roles she chose. Some absolutely horrible movies.
20:34 No, they made it separately. Because the scenes with Dud in were...a dud, they got Eddie Murphy in to shoot more scenes in post production to add laughs. It didn't work.
According to producer Marty Katz, Paramount/Viacom has fired editor Sidney Wolinsky for clashing with Paul Haggar, Cecelia Hall, Hal Harrison, Kenneth Miller, Sean Hanley and Beth Sterner due to many creative differences during the post production of "Best Defense." It just didn't work out, he was replaced by Michael A. Stevenson of Disney to start cut the whole picture while Billy Weber who received as additional editor for the picture's action sequences.
I tried when I was thirteen... I loved to read...and I remember being disappointed in MYSELF that I had a hard time following the plot and the story... Kinda crushed my literary ego a bit as felt it pointed out my own lack of comprehension....😒
Wonderful. These guys were irreplaceable. Miss them beyond words!
+purpletoe101
I agree 100%...I didn't always agree with them...But their discussions did convince me to take a look at certain films that I may not have watched if not for these two guys...I will miss them dearly....
Old-Guy-Rants Me too.
@@TheGimpPimp1 Yep. Siskel was particularly bad and non-sensical with his reasons for not liking some movies. But I didn't care. I loved watching them.
Elitist douchbags.
@@AGoat1971 and one was an oil driller
Even the worst films of 1984 are still better than these modern movies out now.
You are absolutely correct. I would love to see all of these movies (regardless of S&E’s negative review) instead of today’s garbage
Well, in general I agree with you but not EVERY modern film is bad.
Oh bullshit. You're just old
Agreed.
God, I'm a lot older than I thought I was. This was 35 years ago.
Now, almost 40 years ago. I was 22, young and full of promise. Now, I'm 62, and the promise has been ground to dust.
@@danielmaher7108 Tell me about it. I can remember seeing the commercial for the 1984 DUNE, and my father saying that we would go see it. We never did. I suppose Mr. Ebert and Mr. Siskel would consider that a good thing, but I've always remembered him saying we would see it, and wondering why we never did, and it reminds me of all the other things that we never did together. I turned thirteen that year, and now I'm fifty-two...much older than even my father was then. Time is evil.
I keep getting the same realizations 😊
Nobody went to Bo Derek films in the 80's for the story.
Wait? Bo Derek films had a story?
Nobody went to Bo Derek movies in the 80's for any reason.
When I was in eighth grade, my best friend and his family were constantly winning radio contests. It was uncanny. His mom won tickets to the local premiere of Sheena. It was rated PG, but it showed Tanya Roberts' exquisite bare breasts, and we could not have been happier. He died a few years ago, and when I think of Star Wars, Sheena, Eye of the Tiger, Mickey (Toni Basil), and a few other fond memories from the early 80s, I often think of him.
I remember cataloguing all the PG movies that cable channels would show during the day which had topless scenes in them. My friends and I had a list, and let each other known when they were going to be on.
Those were the days...
Our childhood friendships are memorable beyond compare.
Tenderfoot prepper so sorry for ur loss the death of a friend who is irreplacable is impossible tocomprehend let alone recover from may he rip
I'm sorry for your loss. And also, RIP Tanya Roberts.
I love the time before they changed the ratings to include PG-13 because of Indians Jones.
Sheena was never intended to be etertaining ..it was a Vehicle to film Tanya roberts with as little clothes as possible .. an artistic vision i whole heartedly support
Then why weren't there more nude scenes?
WHATTTT!!!!!!.....😫..YOU!!...YOU!!...TAKE THAT BACK!!....😤....missed consideration for an Oscar by 👌that much!!💩.....four years later....
Yes.
These two strike me as the type that don’t enjoy a good Russ Meyer film.
@@KyleShadeEbert was a big Russ Meyer fan and even wrote the script for one of his films!
For anyone interested, $5 in 1984 equates to $12.19 in 2019 money.
Not too shocking actually that the price of a movie back then equals about the same as today. The cost of stuff is relative to the money supply and human nature. I guess we value watching a movie about as much now as we did back then.
sounds about right. Avg movie ticket in the big cities is something like $9
Try $35 a ticket for adults and $33 for children, a box of greasy popcorn is $12 and a soda is $6 highway robbery.
Dang!
Films were $5 in 1987 in Canadian money, they knew it was rather high so created $2.50 Tuesdays and that's when all the teenagers went and where the fun was!
Never will I ever forget either of these two, some of the best film critics who ever lived.
Me neither.
Yeah they were really good critics.
Strongwind l also remember when S & E were on PBS before "regular" TV
@@jacknakash2677 Me too.
S & E were the best. Even though there were many times I did not agree with them. If they gave a film thumbs up, I didn't like it. If they gave a thumbs down, I liked it. And of course there were many times they couldn't agree with each other on liking a film or hating it. But I always gave S & E a lot of respect. They were the Kings of movie reviews.
I used to walk in front of Roger Ebert's home every morning for years and never knew it. Only years later I made the connection while leafing through an old, old issue of Chicago magazine showing extreme closeups of local celebrities' homes. Roger and his wife converted three apartments into a massive single occupancy residence, a part of which was a home theater room. Gene lived a few blocks east in a co-op. A formerly semi-dumpy neighborhood transformed into an area exclusively for the richy rich.
Tanya roberts was hot, though
s. orm Gamalson I discovered her just in time for puberty.
Yeah. It's a good movie on mute.
🤣🤚
s. orm Gamalson 1984 back when we were all young and attractive.
And a wonderful actress
1984 was such a good year for movies that I don't even remember most of this crap.
Only one on the list I had the displeasure of seeing at the cinema was Cannonball Run II. Even as a kid, I thought that movie sucked
Very true
Schush Cannonball Run didn’t give it much to work with. It was a halfway decent premise for a movie and enough jokes for a 30-minute sitcom. About the only genuinely funny moment was Jack Elam appearing from behind a curtain with horror music in the background. The story ran out about the same time the coke ran out on the set. The ending made you embarrassed you were still in the theater.
1984 doesn't even compare to 1971, 1994, or 1999. Those years were way better than seeing stupid films like Ghostbusters or Footloose.
Oh, no...I will never forget sitting through Rhinestone. That film almost gave me a scar for life.
I didn't think Dune was as bad as people think. It's got a beginning, a middle and an end which is rare for a Lynch film.
plus its rare the thing is actually in beginning-middle-end sequence!
It ruined my life.
That Bolero segment was hilarious, my god
shades of hilaria baldwin
That's not a zebra, it's a painted horse.
That was no painted horse . . . that was my wife.
In 1984, nobody thought anything was wrong with stripefacing.
@@isotopefeeney That's not your wife, it's a broom.
Zebras are too mean, lol.
To be fair, a zebra's back is not strong enough to be ridden.
Sylvester Stallone's singing in Rhinestone (1984) was so awful that he actually won a Razzie award for a song he sang in that movie known as "Drinkenstein."
😂😂😂 I heard it after reading your message and I concur with the Razzies... That song is awful and hilariously rendered by Sly.
Budweiser you created a monster
and they call him Drunken stoiyne
"My hero!" "...not mine"
that made me laugh. i like that a lot. siskel and ebert are funny.
I can understand not liking Dune, but that one scene they showed was one of my favorite parts of the movie. The worm devouring the spice harvester was a terrific special effect, especially considering doing effects work that involves sand is difficult due to its non-scalability.
I haven't seen the whole film by any means, but that scene does not look as dumb as a lot of other scenes shown on this episode. However, I think Siskel & Ebert chose that scene to showcase how slow and plodding they thought the film was, and you have to remember this was only a year after the much faster-paced Return of the Jedi. I am aware Dune has underwent a lot of re-evaluation among some.
I think the sand was something like microbeads to give a more realistic look with the models.
@001 002 Dune is, was and always will be a piece of shit. Bon appetit.
001 002
These two are also revered in the movie industry. Your point?
:P
@@TooCooFoYou If I may, Siskel and Ebert were two people who got paid to give their opinion and like many other critics, they thought their opinion could be the only one and mocked filmmakers who actually put their necks on the line to produce a movie. Also, they were highly hypocritical in their standards. Ebert criticized John Carpenter's The Thing as having characters with no dimension to them yet he highly praises a movie like Stranger Than Paradise where the characters are less than two dimensional and the movie lays like a turd for an hour and a half. Critics' words are valuable for the moment. However, movies will live on forever and time is extremely forgiving on a movie. Case in point: Movies like The Elephant Man which were roundly mocked for being slow ("elephantine" some critics used) is rarely found listed without a 4 out of 4 star rating. Even Animal House, which never got above a 3 out of 4 star rating for decades is now considered a 4 out of 4 star comedy.
>Cracking up at the Sheena excerpt
>Ebert is also cracking up
Hilarious
Liked Dune. I liked the look, the creepy ambience, and the entire set.
Wow - today Gene Siskel would have been thrown out of the theater [at the very least] for bringing in his own snacks....
In the 80s, my family would always sneak in candy because outside snacks were forbidden in our local theaters, so that much hasn't changed in 40 years.
I wish Gene Siskel would have written books like Ebert did.
They would have been like him...boring, dull, and lifeless.
When it came to writing, Ebert was the better writer. I remember when they were on Letterman, Siskel said he felt he would have to quit his job at the Tribune to concentrate on writing.
And wish his reviews were posted at Rotten Tomatoes like Roger Eberts are.
I just rewatched Dune. It's a mess but a highly watchable mess. Parts of it are endlessly fascinating and the production design is in parts breathtaking.
Rest In Peace Tanya Roberts
The good days when films were 5 bucks a ticket!
They still are if you hit matinees
That was a lot back then. Unless it was a $1 it was a lot.
Minimum wage in '85 was 3.35 an hour, so it all pretty much evens out.
Five dollars would have been a lot in 1984
$5? In the early 1980s my mom would give me a ten dollar bill and that would get me, my brother and two cousins into a double feature with enough money for popcorn and candy.
wtf is happening in the sheena movie lol, and the music during that sequence makes no sense at all.
Oh Stallone...You turned down Beverly Hill cops and Romancing the Stone for Rhinestone? Your critical career died after that
Creed
Rocky Balboa
Cop Land
Demolition Man
Cliffhanger
Rambo
Assassins
Well given Stallone made his version of Beverly Hills Cop into Cobra which stunk and I cannot think of Stallone in Romancing the Stone at all so we dodged two bullets there. My guess is if Stallone did make Romancing the Stone we wouldn't have gotten Back to the Future as the success of RtS was what made BttF.
Beverly Hills Cop was originally an action film...don`t think it woud have had the same result..
Yeah but he got to nail Dolly Parton in her prime.
@@thorgrootsweetrabbit2244 If true, two VERY ENTHUSIASTIC Thumb's Up, Sly!
I freaking loved Dune, even if it was terrible.
Dune was way to long of a story to fit into one 2 hour film. The sci-fi channel mini series was much better. If someone had a big budget and made a 5 hour or longer film, mini-series, or trilogy, it would be a great film.
Toto did the soundtrack for it, which is one of the reasons why I love it
@@BrettonFerguson David Lynch made a long version, but no way was that gonna be released in 1984.
those loonies had no idea what they were talking about!!! Dune kicks ass!
It was certainly "Terrible" THEN, but time has been a lot kinder to it over the years (Same can be said for "Heaven's Gate", especially the Director's Cut)
Diet Shasta with Nutrasweet-now that’s a callback!
With eighteen different flavors. Amazing.
With the great taste of Nutrasweet!
Vividly remember my brother watching this (he was 7 yrs older than me) on early Saturday afternoons and how even the opening sequence was so comforting. He loved the show and even at ~10 yrs old I thought it was great as well because I was there spending time with my big brother. My brother has since passed way too early and I'll always cherish those lazy Saturday afternoons hanging with my brother watching S & E. Life was so safe, simple and comfortable back then.
I'm sorry about your brother.
Stallone singing is terrifying, and I'm a fan of his.
He has a brother called Frank Stallone who is a singer and has released albums.
@Vinnie Provolone Secret...agent man.
He should have make some rap music A a a adrian. ..A a a Adriaaaan !
Dune is now a cult classic. A totally alien, original sci-fi.
Yeah, the classic Dune is a damn mess, but I still love it.
"Long Live The Fighters !"
"Wow, that's boring! I had more fun with sand at the beach." Well, I hate sand anyway. It's rough and it's coarse, and it gets everywhere.
I think I liked this opening the best. Kinda amusing. Better than putting down their change to get their papers and looking smug. They shld have gone over much more movies. These scenes lasted a while.
The only problem with Dune was that it needed to be at least ten hours long to the tell the books story.
Wasn't the only problem. It added the unnecessary sound modules (the Fremen have sandworms, they don't need special guns), some good effects and a lot of bad effects including terrible ornithopters, bad Guild Steersman design, overly grotesque Baron, PAUL MAKES IT RAIN.
Dennis Miller’s bit about Cannonball Run II was hilarious (“[After the movie], we broke up into individual discussion groups”).
Sheena's zebra is obviously a horse painted black and white.
Dune does have its fans, thou.
Only those that blew the sand around. 😆
Wow! "Sheena" has MST3K written all over it.
lol...
Maybe they can get it for the next season of the revival.
Alamo James it has what?
@@treystephens4490 "Mystery Science Theater 3000"
That music choice was bizarre tho
Their review of DUNE works perfectly for the recent remake as well.
Rhinestone is NOT only the worst film of 1984, it's gotta B in the list of the worst movies EVER!!
Rhinestone or Streets of Fire? They were both pretty bad.
@@rosselliswilkinson Yeah on how not to make a movie with Dolly Parton and Stallone.
DC Cab is probably the worst movie ever. LoL
The bath scene in Sheena made me feel all tingly as a kid...
It still does for me.
Are you sure you're not thinking of the scene from "Beastmaster"?
That movie was PG and had full nudity. The 80s.
"Rhinestone" was really awful. Stallone SINGING is enough to make you run out of the theater! I saw "City Heat" on cable and I can't remember a single thing from that movie. It was a rare film where both critics gave it zero stars in their articles. "North" and "I Spit on Your Grave" are the only other movies I can think of with that dubious achievement. No doubt that Bo Derek's hubby wrecked her career.
No, Roger gave City Heat 1/2 a star.
Hmm. Now it's a half star. I thought I remembered his original Sun Times article where he gave it zero. Well, either way, the movie really sucked.
Rhinestone has a sick appeal to me,. it's lousy, but funny to me.
But sadly John Derek who passed away in 1999.
Dune was good, and fairly faithful adaptation of the book.
Now a days movie stars are trying to break into television.
Yep
...ever since The Sopranos, the tide has turned.
I loved the commercial at the end RIP Pan AM.
When my brother and I were born, our grandfather bought each of us 100 shares in a company. He got AT&T. I got Pan Am.
@ Grandfather did not understand the concept of diversification.
pan am is actually still around....freight trains, i was a conductor and my checks were from pan am
I guess Burt Reynolds did turn into The Human Bomb in the '80s...
How he went from "Deliverance" to all of those godawful movies in the 80's is just heartbreaking...
@@BackwoodsFilms He admitted he did one or two too many Hal Needham good ol boy car chase movies . Should've quit after Bandit 2
@@BackwoodsFilms But he was good in Striptease,and Boogie Nights.
I have to say, I read the first 4 Dune novels before I saw the film, and I was still mostly lost when it came to the movie. I mean, I was only 14, but I had no problems understanding the novels.
Gene throwing in his home "movies" are better than Derek in Tarzan. Hilarious
I loved Sheena as a teenage boy.
Kinda like to see the Bill Murray review they mention the following week.
Probably is ghostbusters
@NotSnarl Always thought Ghostbusters was incredibly over rated.
@@adamsmith859 "Over-rated?" I don't think so. "Ghostbusters" is a glorious film for fans who
prefer to see it.
Dude nothing, I repeat, NOTHING made before the year 2000 (that being anything from the previous century) can even begin to compare to the loathsome garbage we've had flowing out of Hollywood's abscessed anus for the last 18 plus years (that being most everything from the 21st century).
With extremely little and very rare exclusions, the vast majority of Hollywood pap has been utterly forgettable and pathetic, destined to be forgotten and reviled by any future society. I guess we just didn't realize at the time, at least most of us excluding myself, how good we really had it back then. I knew we were living through the golden ages, I just didn't know it would all dry up and go completely away one day. 😢
So sad, so very, very sad...
Movies are big digital smears today, no resemblance to actual movies at all.
comic book movies
Absolutely adore both of these gentlemen. I also adore Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter and Silent Night, Deadly Night.
It´s funny how they (in the Burt Reynolds segment) looked down on TV actors as opposed to movie actors. Also, a movie ticket was 5 bucks!
they were pointing out how badly he was squandering his career. I love Burt, one of my favorites, but man, he really did listen to the wrong people- HAL NEEDAM and blew his single best chance of all time, by turning down, TERMS OF ENDEARMENT that won Jack Nicholson an Oscar. Imagine had Reynolds done the film, won his oscar! He'd have all the great parts in the 80's and 90's. Avoided the direct to video junk he got slimed with...
YET he came from television!
I know a lot of people like Dune. But I got so bored by it, I actually went to sleep watching it.
Clifford Shafran That movie was impossible, absolutely unwatchable.
Boy that Sheena scene packs *a lot* of bad into a very short time.
They couldn’t get swivel chairs for these guys. 20+ years of adjusting probably took a year off their lives
Ebert pretty much said that Sheena should have shown more T&A and he would've liked the movie better 😂
In the opening intro it looks like they’re sneaking up to the balcony to hook up
Tru Valu LOL
U r in every crowd buddy
Umm...only in your mind I guess.
Wonder what Robert Crumb thought of this version of Sheena.
Never saw Rhinestone, but EVERY time I went to the movies in '84, the trailer for Rhinestone was shown.
Would you happen to have the "Stinkers of 1982" episode? It was on TH-cam at one time, but I can't find it anywhere.
Alas, no.
Apparently, bad movies from 2017 are overall Oscar contenders compared to bad movies from 84. Yikes.
Just for fun, here are all 13 films mentioned, with their current IMDB ratings:
4.9 Sheena
4.0 Rhinestone
3.0 Bolero
5.1 Cannonball Run 2
5.5 City Heat
6.3 Dune
6.0 Friday The 13th, Final Chapter
5.8 Windy City
5.9 The Woman in Red
4.2 Where the Boys Are
3.8 Best Defense
5.8 Harry and Sun
5.8 Silent Night Deadly Night
Oh man, Best Defense!!! Eddie Murphy totally trashed that movie himself when he guest hosted SNL that year.
That was the third movie he was in at the start of his career after 48 Hours and Trading Places. He got paid more than both of the first 2 combined, even though the movie bombed at the box office and the first 2 are epic.
@@TrumpFanNetwork2 The editor of this film was Sidney Wolinsky whose been fired three times from the project and due to many creative differences.
Never realized just how many infamously AWFUL movies came out in this year!
These guys are LEGENDS.
legendary nerds
@@moralcompass3252 Movie nerds. And that's awesome.
“Wow, that’s boring. I’ve had more fun with sand at the beach.”
Great comment from Gene about “Dune.”
I was just a kid when these were new but I pretty much watched their shows weekly, they are just part of my childhood and part of our shared culture, very much missed, both of them and those years.
i was 12 in 84 and Sheena was one of the greatest films i have ever seen. i watched it over and over and over LOL. along with beast master.
i also actually liked Rhinestone. now i know its no great movie and i partially like it because i was 12 and its nostalgic for me. but i would still argue its a dumb fun movie and sometimes thats what you want to watch.
Love The Beastmaster absolute classic.
If ebert was around today, he’d be a gamer
Burt Reynolds was the Adam Sandler of the 80's.
ecwdown he was that awful? Holy shit!
but he started high....Deliverance....Sharkey`s Machine.....first Smokey and the Bandit......and crashed like Eddie Murphy or John Travoltra
Actually, Burt Reynolds perfectly mirrored John Travolta: They both had a 3 good movies in the 70's, then made crap for the decade, then had one film in the 90's turn their careers around:
Travolta 70's: Grease, Saturday Night Fever, Urban Cowboy.
Reynolds 70's: Deliverance, The Longest Yard, Smokey & The Bandit.
Travolta: Pulp Fiction
Reynolds: Boogie Nights.
@@crashburn3292 Cannonball Run II is so bad it hurts. Its completely obvious ...especially Burt & Dom Delouise ...everyone is going through the motions for a paycheck
@@crashburn3292 AND they both shat their big comebacks away after by making more drek.
Dune is a nightmare in a good way and beautifully shot
Patrik Stewert was in Dune? Wow, I didnt see it, my freinds felt it was a Star Wars rip off so we didnt see it
Pointless garbage, there's no point watching it ever
They said Dune was a Star Wars ripoff. Oh, the irony.
What’s so funny is they’re gripping over 5 bucks?!! Movies are now over $20.00 and they put out more crap than ever!!😂
Just a decade before you could see double features for a 1$ or so.
movies are 10.00-15.00 and 5 dollars then was over 12 bucks in today's money
I really don't think zebras would like it if you tried to ride them. A horse painted to look like zebra?
@Timesthree Thehighest:
Well that's correct, Timesthree Thehighest! In fact zebras aren't trainable as horses are, especially wild zebras. So they painted a trained horse to look like Sheena (Tanya Roberts) is riding a zebra hehehehe
Patrick Stewart looks the same in 1984 (probably filmed in 1983) as he does in 2019. O_O
As much as I love Tanya Roberts she was also totally miscast in A View to a Kill the following year
"JAMES!!!"
Damn! Now I'm in the mood for a Diet Shasta.
I wish I could go back to 1984. I'd make my 24 year old self go see every one of these movies... and laugh!
wonder how many animals were hurt on the Sheena set. Also, i think i need that smoke-away product, lol
5 dollars? Wow.
"Sheena" is forever redeemed by one show-stopping scene. You know exactly what I'm talking about.
Strangely enough, I actually agree with this whole review...
I agree with Siskel & Ebert's review. And never read the book. But the real problem I have with the movie is, Kyle MacLachlan's character suddenly preaching about "righteousness" towards the end. As I remember it, most the movie is about interplanetary war, over a hallucinogenic spice. You know, a commodity. Like say, oil. It felt like being sold on a war for oil under the pretense of religion. Or even worse, being sold on a war over LSD, under the pretense of religion. When Sting's character reacted negatively to Kyle's use of righteousness, so did I. It felt like an insult.
Bo Derrick's film career should have ended with 10.
City Heat was where Burt Reynolds got hit by a real chair instead of a breakaway chair in his jaw, shattering it, causing an addiction to pain-killers and the start of his career's decline.
That and Loni Anderson
7:40: I’m only 23, so 1984 is not something I remember, but this scene is so hilarious in its stupidity. I love that Siskel & Ebert are immediately ready to pan it when the camera turns to the studio again.
Dune was Amazing! Epic 80's sci-fi flick!
Totally Agree. This film gets way too much hate. It is an epic movie.
I'm fine if people find something to enjoy in it, but it's definitely a terrible film. It's just a complete mess. That was true in 1985, and it's true now.
One of the greatest. One has to be a warrior to enjoy it.
These guys were our IMDB.
I always thought that "Dune" the movie was both bad and good. I like the ugly look of the Harkonnens and felt it really captured the even more horrible nature of them in the books (yes, Baron Vladimir is far worse in the books and impossible to show on the screen). I loved the special effects as well. I will admit that the whole script is a terrible adaptation of the book (to many holes in it).
No Derek is still one of the most beautiful women in history.I don't think the problem was so much her acting, but more in the roles she chose. Some absolutely horrible movies.
Who'd have thought that the future Captain Picard snorting spice would be an epic cinematic event...
20:34
No, they made it separately. Because the scenes with Dud in were...a dud, they got Eddie Murphy in to shoot more scenes in post production to add laughs. It didn't work.
According to producer Marty Katz, Paramount/Viacom has fired editor Sidney Wolinsky for clashing with Paul Haggar, Cecelia Hall, Hal Harrison, Kenneth Miller, Sean Hanley and Beth Sterner due to
many creative differences during the post production of "Best Defense." It just didn't work out, he was replaced by Michael A. Stevenson of Disney to start cut the whole picture while Billy Weber
who received as additional editor for the picture's action sequences.
When I was a kid I was into Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica. When the previews for Dune came out I made sure I avoided it like the plague.
They're right. Dune was UGLY. Read the book.
I tried when I was thirteen... I loved to read...and I remember being disappointed in MYSELF that I had a hard time following the plot and the story... Kinda crushed my literary ego a bit as felt it pointed out my own lack of comprehension....😒
I like 4 of these crappy movies.
Which ones?
Dune would be a perfect candidate for a remake. I liked some of the David Lynch one, but it was a holy mess, and should be done right.
It is being remade by Dennis Villeneuve(Blade Runner 2049, Enemy,Sicario)
i still would like to see what alejandro jodorowsky would've done with that film.
It literally is being remade right now
I used to LOVE watching 'Crisco and Eggbert' when I was a kid!
What in the hell is that scene from City Heat? That's crazy and stupid!
I like Dune. It's pure cheesy sci-fi goodness.
Friday the 13th...they're making another one! Oh guys, if only you knew how many were to come
We almost got to 13