Russ I have always enjoyed the way you talk out issues. The engine hose replacement does not look bad. Only remove the supply and return lines at the tank push them out of the way for the fill line then after that is corrected do the others after hurricane season
Appreciate it, Mike. Just finished replacing the fill hose yesterday...upon close inspection, it was very badly cracked. Glad it's replaced. Couldn't find the 1/2-inch hose for the vent line, but I did remove, clean and reroute the existing line. Hope you are doing well, my friend. Miss working with you.
Thanks for this discussion. I've picked up a couple ideas from this: back support cushion for quarterberths, now that I've restored them to more or less Cape Dory specs; recreated a cabin table with drop down leaves on both sides; and re-examine cockpit drainage issues. Maybe I can re route them to the motor well. I'll look at that this week.
Yessir! It got down to 80 F and will be down in the lower 70s this week. Last year I got hit by a cold front while near Jacksonville, and it got down to the upper 30s, and this boat was pretty darned cold.
My Uncle had a saying, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". On the flip side, there are those who champion 'preventative maintenance'. I have seen some sailors put a hole in their cockpit canvass shade with a tube to collect rain water, I wonder if that might be a cheaper and quicker alternative?
I do think my "great idea" was silly. The physical access to where the plumbing would go is going to make water collection next to impossible anyway. But still thinking of a way to eliminate those old seacocks. In next year's budget (haha--there is no budget) I do want to make a new frame for the cockpit cover so I can increase solar power, and finally permanently install sidelights....and that project will absolutely include rain collection features. And the amount of water that I collect from the "sun cover" (old mainsail draped over the boom when NOT underway) is astonishing. I can collect 30+ litres in a 30 minute rainstorm.
All you needed to do is talk it out. Good job. Your concerns morph into plausible solutions! As others have already stated.........KISS....................Keep It Simple.
Can’t chime in on how to do these projects but I do think you should not put yourself in a situation where you can’t move the boat. Fingers crossed that there won’t be any hurricanes 🤞😊
AFA tank lines....set up a "day tank" fuel jug and feed line so's ya have a seperate means of supply just in case when you disconnect the permanent lines.
That is smart. You always have great input, Paul--much appreciated. That'll be easy to do because I have a lot of hose on-hand, and four 5-gallon jerry cans.
What do you think of the idea of re-plumbing the upper drains to what would essentially be a scupper, and then sending the lower drains out the transom (above the waterline, where the upper drains currently discharge) and abandoning the seacocks?
I recently got a quart kit of total boat penetrating epoxy, seems to have a lot of uses as well as under varnish, might stiffen up the through hull backing block.
I have never heard of penetrating epoxy. I was thinking of thinning some regular epoxy with acetone and injecting with the syringe. Sounds like a little TH-cam research is warranted! Surely someone else has tried this. What do you think of the idea of re-plumbing the upper drain to what would essentially be a scupper, and then sending the lower drains out the transom (above the waterline) and abandoning the seacocks?
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it mho. Seems engine monitoring equipment way more important than drains. I would do hoses etc when next on hard. The drain issues don’t really cut it for me as a priority except for the through valve seating, again a hard stand job
@@chhindz as i understood the situation the drains all currently work fine so hence my comment, alterations as proposed are enhancements not mission critical repairs. Best
Well, the cockpit does drain well (and quickly) right now. The only time I've taken waves into the cockpit was in the Yucatan Strait, when I was stupidly trying to fight to the Cayman Islands. Three or four times I took a big wave over the back and got a few inches of water into the lower cockpit...but it was drained fully in a just a few seconds. But I rarely use the engine when underway....maybe if I am on a short hop. On any long cruise, sailing has to be the answer. @@chhindz
Sorry, Its more me that has that potential problem, where someone cut big holes to install old speakers, and a cockpit window has a broken hinge and does not close all the way, Once had leaves and stuff clog drain, and water was pouring in, have only passaged to Bimini in lighter conditions.
I am far from an expert (as you know from all of my questions), but it seems that between the diesel tank hoses, all of the cockpit drain modifications, and especially the elimination of that scary looking piece of plywood behind the seacock, you might benefit from a couple of weeks on the hard. Isn't there a fairly reasonable DIY boatyard up by Englewood off Charlotte Harbor? Maybe you can just make do until your next scheduled haulout if that isn't convenient or financially sensible. On another note, I am going to message you a solar question as well as a few bilge restoration questions one of these days. Tautog is looking good, my friend!
Yes--there is (well at least there was) a DIY yard near Englewood. The DIY yard in Fort Pierce was okay, but they did not have monthly rates. In fact, their daily rate went UP the longer you stayed. I do think that the cockpit drains "will be fine" until the next scheduled haulout, but I do need to decide _what_to do, because (using Rio Dulce as an example) in some places the boatyards are much less expensive, and the labor rate is low, the captain needs to show up with parts/supplies in-hand because they may not be obtainable locally. I will be focusing on the diesel work first.
Russ
I have always enjoyed the way you talk out issues. The engine hose replacement does not look bad. Only remove the supply and return lines at the tank push them out of the way for the fill line then after that is corrected do the others after hurricane season
Appreciate it, Mike.
Just finished replacing the fill hose yesterday...upon close inspection, it was very badly cracked. Glad it's replaced.
Couldn't find the 1/2-inch hose for the vent line, but I did remove, clean and reroute the existing line.
Hope you are doing well, my friend. Miss working with you.
I also have to replace those supply and return lines. Almost rigid.
Thanks for this discussion. I've picked up a couple ideas from this: back support cushion for quarterberths, now that I've restored them to more or less Cape Dory specs; recreated a cabin table with drop down leaves on both sides; and re-examine cockpit drainage issues. Maybe I can re route them to the motor well. I'll look at that this week.
Cold in Florida? Lol. Hello from Massachusetts.
Yessir! It got down to 80 F and will be down in the lower 70s this week.
Last year I got hit by a cold front while near Jacksonville, and it got down to the upper 30s, and this boat was pretty darned cold.
@@skipjacksailing8986 Maybe you should install a little diesel heater in the cabin.
My Uncle had a saying, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". On the flip side, there are those who champion 'preventative maintenance'. I have seen some sailors put a hole in their cockpit canvass shade with a tube to collect rain water, I wonder if that might be a cheaper and quicker alternative?
I do think my "great idea" was silly.
The physical access to where the plumbing would go is going to make water collection next to impossible anyway.
But still thinking of a way to eliminate those old seacocks.
In next year's budget (haha--there is no budget) I do want to make a new frame for the cockpit cover so I can increase solar power, and finally permanently install sidelights....and that project will absolutely include rain collection features.
And the amount of water that I collect from the "sun cover" (old mainsail draped over the boom when NOT underway) is astonishing.
I can collect 30+ litres in a 30 minute rainstorm.
All you needed to do is talk it out. Good job. Your concerns morph into plausible solutions! As others have already stated.........KISS....................Keep It Simple.
Thank you, sir!
Can’t chime in on how to do these projects but I do think you should not put yourself in a situation where you can’t move the boat. Fingers crossed that there won’t be any hurricanes 🤞😊
AFA tank lines....set up a "day tank" fuel jug and feed line so's ya have a seperate means of supply just in case when you disconnect the permanent lines.
That is smart.
You always have great input, Paul--much appreciated.
That'll be easy to do because I have a lot of hose on-hand, and four 5-gallon jerry cans.
What do you think of the idea of re-plumbing the upper drains to what would essentially be a scupper, and then sending the lower drains out the transom (above the waterline, where the upper drains currently discharge) and abandoning the seacocks?
I recently got a quart kit of total boat penetrating epoxy, seems to have a lot of uses as well as under varnish, might stiffen up the through hull backing block.
I have never heard of penetrating epoxy. I was thinking of thinning some regular epoxy with acetone and injecting with the syringe. Sounds like a little TH-cam research is warranted! Surely someone else has tried this.
What do you think of the idea of re-plumbing the upper drain to what would essentially be a scupper, and then sending the lower drains out the transom (above the waterline) and abandoning the seacocks?
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it mho. Seems engine monitoring equipment way more important than drains. I would do hoses etc when next on hard. The drain issues don’t really cut it for me as a priority except for the through valve seating, again a hard stand job
Much appreciated feedback!
That's how I woke up thinking today...engine first.
(but still working in the cabin)
In you get into offshore situation where cockpit is filling with waves could be more important than engine, (if it is draining into cabin)
@@chhindz as i understood the situation the drains all currently work fine so hence my comment, alterations as proposed are enhancements not mission critical repairs. Best
Well, the cockpit does drain well (and quickly) right now.
The only time I've taken waves into the cockpit was in the Yucatan Strait, when I was stupidly trying to fight to the Cayman Islands. Three or four times I took a big wave over the back and got a few inches of water into the lower cockpit...but it was drained fully in a just a few seconds.
But I rarely use the engine when underway....maybe if I am on a short hop.
On any long cruise, sailing has to be the answer.
@@chhindz
Sorry, Its more me that has that potential problem, where someone cut big holes to install old speakers, and a cockpit window has a broken hinge and does not close all the way, Once had leaves and stuff clog drain, and water was pouring in, have only passaged to Bimini in lighter conditions.
I am far from an expert (as you know from all of my questions), but it seems that between the diesel tank hoses, all of the cockpit drain modifications, and especially the elimination of that scary looking piece of plywood behind the seacock, you might benefit from a couple of weeks on the hard. Isn't there a fairly reasonable DIY boatyard up by Englewood off Charlotte Harbor? Maybe you can just make do until your next scheduled haulout if that isn't convenient or financially sensible.
On another note, I am going to message you a solar question as well as a few bilge restoration questions one of these days.
Tautog is looking good, my friend!
Yes--there is (well at least there was) a DIY yard near Englewood.
The DIY yard in Fort Pierce was okay, but they did not have monthly rates. In fact, their daily rate went UP the longer you stayed.
I do think that the cockpit drains "will be fine" until the next scheduled haulout, but I do need to decide _what_to do, because (using Rio Dulce as an example) in some places the boatyards are much less expensive, and the labor rate is low, the captain needs to show up with parts/supplies in-hand because they may not be obtainable locally.
I will be focusing on the diesel work first.
Saludos de Cancun de la marina V&V yate, sirena58 (asteria)
¡Hola amigo!
¿como estas, Marcos?
BFEs (Boat Filling Events) are like LOCAs, avoid them at all cost.