“The Movement Is In Complete Disarray!” Chances Of Scottish Independence Doomed 10 Years On

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  • Political correspondent at The Sunday Times in Scotland, John Boothman, speaks to Kevin O’Sullivan about the Independence movement 10 years on from the referendum.
    In 2014, 55% of voters rejected independence and supported remaining part of the UK.
    A decade on, John says “the movement is in complete disarray”.
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  • @Beauloqs
    @Beauloqs 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    When are the English going to get a vote on keeping or cutting loose this glorified county council of a country.

  • @cremvirus
    @cremvirus 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Just a council, a glorified council

  • @michellelandale1187
    @michellelandale1187 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    SNP got greedy. No to independence I’m Scottish.

  • @2nd.2nd.2nd
    @2nd.2nd.2nd 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Laugh is those who want Scottish independance are the same folk who'd be offended if England said "go on,clear off then" both those can't be true.

    • @TalorcMacAllan-j2z
      @TalorcMacAllan-j2z 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      wrong

    • @Angus_____
      @Angus_____ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Scottish independence isn't independence if they then join the E.u. again.
      Fools.

    • @sugoitom
      @sugoitom 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@2nd.2nd.2nd
      That would be nice but since your English court said we can’t leave, we have to keep subsidizing little England

    •  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Uk court

  • @Themanyfacesofego
    @Themanyfacesofego 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    As a British person I was very glad to see Scottish separation defeated.
    How could any person who values stability and this country, support breaking it up?
    Diictators from the outside failed to break the British, so we should not destroy ourselves.

    • @James-tv4pl
      @James-tv4pl 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The thing is that a lot of Scottish identify much more with Scotland than they do with the UK, so they see independence as emancipation from an occupying state which makes decisions which aren't in their interest. And I can't blame them tbh

    • @pauldonaldson6067
      @pauldonaldson6067 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Many people in Scotland, including myself, see themselves as Scottish not British. You really don't get it at all

    • @Themanyfacesofego
      @Themanyfacesofego 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@James-tv4pl Well, perhaps they should speak to people who actually do live in occupied states. Then their romanticized feelings of victimhood would quickly evaporate.

    • @Themanyfacesofego
      @Themanyfacesofego 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@pauldonaldson6067It's not possible to be ' Scottish not British.'
      All Scottish people are British,
      but of course not all British people are Scottish. Others British include:
      English, Welsh, Northern Irish, Gibraltarians and Falklanders.

    • @James-tv4pl
      @James-tv4pl วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Themanyfacesofego Northern Irish, Gibraltans, Falklanders are not British. They do not live in Great Britain, it's that simple. The Scottish are British but as I was saying a lot of them like to identify as Scottish first because they feel a greater attraction to their country than they do to the UK

  • @kevinrobb86
    @kevinrobb86 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    They will wait as long for indy as the people of Scotland wait on the outcome of the investigation into the financial goings on

    • @mcdell6970
      @mcdell6970 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kevinrobb86
      The English establishment will never investigate themselves

  • @63mckenzie
    @63mckenzie 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They destroyed their dream through their own incompetence.

  • @michaellakey3565
    @michaellakey3565 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Alex was right, the Scots had their last chance for 100 years back in 2014.
    But they didn't have the bottle - as it were - for it.

  • @derekhart3308
    @derekhart3308 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm British, not Scottish stuff. Scottish Independence does not mean no plus voted for Brexit. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @Angus_____
    @Angus_____ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    At least Sturgeon has aged well
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kevinrobb86
      @kevinrobb86 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      She wouldn't look out of place in Cell Block H (Australian TV show from years back)

    • @Calcearius
      @Calcearius วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thats all the booze she has been drinking. In fairness if i was about to go to jail for corruption I'd probably develop a drinking problem too.

  • @RumiWiseone
    @RumiWiseone 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    And of course, Yousaf is a hamas sympathiser !

  • @DouglasThomson-pl6sl
    @DouglasThomson-pl6sl วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Frankly Cameron was an utter fool and let out of jail by the hard working No campaign and the good sense of the majority of Scots. He conceded every advantage to Salmond, in allowing a ridiculously long campaign [2 years], letting them set the question, Yes No, lowering the voting age from 18 to 16, and barring upwards of 800,000 ex patriot Scots the vote. No future British PM will concede such ground, for example the question would almost certainly be Leave or Remain. Recent polls asking this question show Remain at around 60%

    •  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Totally agree - he was reckless - no UK prime minister will do that again.

    • @DouglasThomson-pl6sl
      @DouglasThomson-pl6sl วันที่ผ่านมา

      To expand on my exclusion of expats. That included civil servants working elsewhere, armed forces men and women etc. How many of them would vote to make themselves foreigners in the country of their birth?

  • @joseph-sj7do
    @joseph-sj7do วันที่ผ่านมา

    David Cameron only promised a Referendum if Conservatives had an overall majority which nobody expected but just days before Election Labour MPs said they had spoken to SNP who were prepared to support a Minority Labour Govt and Millerbtamd Leader of Labour did not immediately reject it and that day Millions of Labour Voters decided not to vote Labour as they all despised the SNP and that is why Cameron won a Majority SO SNP AND LABOUR ARE GUILTY OF BREXIT

  • @ValerieMcIntyre-cg6rw
    @ValerieMcIntyre-cg6rw วันที่ผ่านมา

    Independence supporters (not natural Talk TV listeners) would be more than happy if England did the job for us and took their own independence Ask yourself why does the British state want to hold on to us ?

  • @chipsilliman8848
    @chipsilliman8848 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    put your faith and trust in elites.....they'll fix it right up

  • @johnmurphy618
    @johnmurphy618 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If London had a vote for Independence then it well could become a subsidiary or Asia. Not a good idea.

  • @Cycle.every.day.
    @Cycle.every.day. 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There is no appetite for indy when Labour are in power in Westminister , for some reason those who want Scottish indy also kinda like Labour so they all take a chill pill.

    • @TalorcMacAllan-j2z
      @TalorcMacAllan-j2z 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      another wrong one , i don't know any nationalist that kinda likes Labour or the Tories.

  • @vishwasmarathe3241
    @vishwasmarathe3241 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Brits give Scotland full independence

    • @Beauloqs
      @Beauloqs 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      As a Englishman I would happily vote for Scottish independence, sick and tired of subsidizing this.

    • @TalorcMacAllan-j2z
      @TalorcMacAllan-j2z 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Beauloqs aha ha ha .....Its us subsidizing England's overpopulated country for decades ........If we leave you will have to buy it instead of taking it and giving us back a pittance to run a country. Do the research and read the facts.

    • @Angus_____
      @Angus_____ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Scottish independence isn't independence if they then join the E.u. again.
      Fools.

    • @ValerieMcIntyre-cg6rw
      @ValerieMcIntyre-cg6rw วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Beauloqs London is the most subsidised part of the UK

    •  วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s bollox

  • @mcdell6970
    @mcdell6970 วันที่ผ่านมา

    England need independence to survive

  • @kevinrenton7533
    @kevinrenton7533 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    LOL - if the UK Governed well then people would want to stay.... have we forgotten about Liz Truss, Read Rory Stewarts book (Politics On the Edge) - Westminster is a mess. Unionist need to start talking about how they are going to sort the Union out. Plan please.

  • @mcdell6970
    @mcdell6970 วันที่ผ่านมา

    England needs independence to survive

    • @ValerieMcIntyre-cg6rw
      @ValerieMcIntyre-cg6rw วันที่ผ่านมา

      Look forward to it truth is you can't afford too.

    • @mcdell6970
      @mcdell6970 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So true ,England would fold without Scotland

  • @sugoitom
    @sugoitom 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    We are not aloud to have a vote by the high court that's the issue so it's not a democracy

    • @PETERGRIFFIN21380
      @PETERGRIFFIN21380 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😂😂🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

    • @Calcearius
      @Calcearius วันที่ผ่านมา

      Democracy requires the losers to also accept the results. Maybe try doing that...

  • @mcdell6970
    @mcdell6970 วันที่ผ่านมา

    England need independence to survive

    • @ValerieMcIntyre-cg6rw
      @ValerieMcIntyre-cg6rw วันที่ผ่านมา

      If that were true Scotland would have had it's Independence years ago