Awesome guide. Quick no nonsense tutorial. I really appreciate that you just get right to it and didn't turn a 5 min video into a 25 min over explanation.
EXCELLENT! Was looking for a way to merge engines. Thank you. And thank you for getting to the point and not rambling for 15 minutes. Some people make these videos and while they are helping us with their techniques they sure like to hear themselves talk.
Wowww this is simple but CRUCIAL info for anyone into shipbuilding! Yes, I've had the frustration of pieces that should logically merge together not do so; I basically gave up shipbuilding at that time... Can't wait to start trying this method! Thanks for the video!!
Holy crap! I just discovered this today, only to find out you’ve already made a video on it. I know you referenced it a bunch in your reviews, but forests for the trees for me. Great video, redesigned a whole ship with this!
Thanks to this video i was finally able to learn how to merge the reactor, grav drive, cargo modules and several other components into just one neat 1x1 box. Thank you for the great tutorial! Now my Halo Pelican build looks much smoother.
Among the endlessly repeating trash videos about xp, tips, and making credits, is this absolutely amazing video, straight to the point with really useful info. Thank you!
Thank you for this! I was aware of the flip method and the variant method for merging parts, but not this duplicate/merge down method. Awesome! Now I know how I can get this cockpit to merge down into a particular landing gear.
Definitely useful for optimal cockpit placement in some builds. Not sure I'll ever be clipping things into others, but could be a nice workaround in some cases. Either way, good knowledge to have. 👍
That's interesting, my grav drive is always the first thing to go down when I'm losing a fight in the Mantis ship, the Razorleaf; but I never really thought about protecting it because I rarely run from a fight anyway. I always just assumed that the enemy were targeting it specifically to prevent me from running away, which is just fine with me! And if you survive it's always back up and running in a few seconds anyway. I'd prefer my grav drive to be targeted rather than my weapons..
@@mike_d_melb_music_fan5229 I was actually thinking that this was the point, that the enemies want to disable the grav drive so that you can't run away from them. But if they did target your weapons first then the only thing to do would be to jump out of there!
@JoeBob79569 yeah, but then the game says " you can't jump while in combat" , so what's the point of enemies going for your grav drive ? I dunno, I think the whole thing needs a re think. 😮🤔
@@mike_d_melb_music_fan5229 It's early in the morning here and my brain registered this as -"you can't fast travel while jumping"_ (which has caught me out a few times!) and so this comment really confused me for a second! I think you can grav jump away from a fight alright alright though, but it has to be to a different system..
So useful. I heard about it, but did not want to use it first. I am hours upon hours in this builder. I love it so much. But i guess i will have to use it now, because it would help alot i a few cases i used with other, normal techniques. As a workaround. But this feels still... legit :D Thanks for showing! Edit: I hope they never fix this. But i guess it will stay. At least if this isn't corrupting saves, as one comment pointed oit that this can happen.
@@CrimsonFlyboy Of course of course. But it is more than enough for me. I mean, the Builder works fine most of the time and if there is a Problem, ifind a solution in a different approach while still getting what i imagined. This helps alot now. I just can dream of the stuff we will get via DLC and Mods for the builder.
I've only ever merged one thing (the long Nova Cowling into the same Nova bridge that you showed). It caused some oddities that made the ship unplayable. The exit hatch led to the middle of the Akila wilderness. I was parked at the Akila City spaceport. It might have done that with any planet. Didn't test. I basically had to edit the ship, remove the merged part, and then run with it not merged from then on. If you can get your parts to merge without some sort of glitch, seems like a cool technique. Just be aware that there may be unintended consequences down the road.
That sounds a bit strange. That being said, if you merge items into habitats, they will stick through. That's why i tend to only merge items into non habitat modules
Great informative video and definitely improves on some of the clunkier looking snap-fits of the game but I want to ask if these techniques effect usability? If you were to merge a reactor through a hab module for instance. When in the ship does it show the reactor through the module rendering it inaccessible? I ask because I’ve noticed even “clean” builds I’ve made have had certain hiccups such as one hab being toxic for some reason in one corner no matter where I land my ship and another where Vasco is folded up in the middle of my workshop and makes it difficult to access one of the tables because of the game prioritising interaction with him (even though nothing happens when attempting to interact with him) over using the customisation table.
From what I've seen, if you merge items inside habitats modules, they can be seen from the inside, but a lot of them won't have collision mesh, meaning you can walk through them
@@CrimsonFlyboy thank you for getting back to me, I appreciate it! That’s good to know, definitely gonna have to play around with this tonight and see what I can conjur up! Thanks a lot for the upload!
I initially thought I'd be ignoring all of these glitching methods, but after seeing how finicky the ship building actually is in the game I think I'll start using them soon.. I'm currently hopping systems in a hab-monstrosity, trying to pick up all the unique parts I want, and connecting particular parts to particular places is already pissing me off.
Dont forget to make use of an outpost as then you can access all structural pieces. It is a bit of a pain having to hop around to get the exact pieces you want. I kind of wish there was a station that had all the pieces but charged a premium to install them
@@CrimsonFlyboy Yea, I ended up just grabbed a list of the console commands for all the unique ship parts, and slapped them into the console, so that they'd be available to me at the one place, it makes it so much easier. It's absolutely ridiculous to have to hop back and forth between systems, adding parts, realising they don't suit you, and trying to remember the specs of the previous parts, and having to go somewhere else and try again. It's hard enough just trying to get the layout right, and having to go back into the ship every time to check it, without having to travel around as well. I generally don't like using the console for "cheating" (infinite money, etc) because it takes all the fun out of it, but in some situations, such as this, it's just more convenient.
@CrimsonFlyboy I really appreciate this for merging aesthetic components together. However, it should be classifies as a cheat to merge grav drives, reactors and/or engines into other objects. Ship combat uses each of those as separate choice targets and using this glitch could reduce that target size or completely hide them from fire.
I've been blown up many times with these merged vessels, so you're not anymore or less safe by merging items. At the end of the day, it's a single-player game and doesn't affect anyone. It's your choice if you choose to do it or not.
In a game where you can lost over 30 hours of gameplay due to bug with ship building or ship stealing mechanics - merging parts which are not codded to be merged by design - is asking for trouble. Don't be surprised when you'll see you ship as inaccessible and without crew. It just works.
@@CrimsonFlyboy It is still unclear what's the actual cause of this game breaking bug, but a lot of people were affected by it, me including. What we know so far is that it is 100% connected to ship building and ship stealing. But it is unclear how to repeat it manually as this seems like uncontrollable random bug. Lucky you. When you see your landing bay as inaccessible, no longer see your crew on ship, when there is no Vasko outside of ship, when system authorities stop scanning you for contraband, when you are not getting your Star Eagle as reward - just so you know: you are fucked and has essentially lost X hours of gameplay. The more you play with ship building, the higher the chance, that much is clear. After facing this bug for the first time, i am in permanent paranoia mode whenever i use ship building or trying to steal ship. That's how severe it is.
I can't get this to work to save my life. I'm desperately trying to merge my reactor to my grav drive and instead of going down the part just duplicated INTO itself or floats right on my curser instead of snapping down.
If its going into itself it doesnr have a snap point, you need to make sure you have two sets of snap points. You'll know if the merge can work if it tries to snap normally but it's red
I have been using this method since very early on and have many many hours sunk into the game and have yet to see any errors or save corruption on my xbox. Personally, i dont see how it would cause any issues aside from objects clipping a little. Have you personally experienced these issues, or are you going off what others have said.
@@CrimsonFlyboy It could be a nasty surprise if players' fleet only had builds utilizing this glitch. Then they have to spend hours correcting their ships. I played a game called High Fleet in which there were all sorts of "cursed and illegal" optimizations. It didn't need to "break" the game. As soon as a mechanic became popular, it got patched away. And that happened multiple times until I got tired of starting from scratch and just downloaded other players' designs.
It's not patched, I did it an hour ago. Let it put one on the top first, then dupe the middle one again, and it should place on the bottom. You may need to move your camera around to get it working
Awesome guide. Quick no nonsense tutorial. I really appreciate that you just get right to it and didn't turn a 5 min video into a 25 min over explanation.
EXCELLENT! Was looking for a way to merge engines. Thank you. And thank you for getting to the point and not rambling for 15 minutes. Some people make these videos and while they are helping us with their techniques they sure like to hear themselves talk.
Wowww this is simple but CRUCIAL info for anyone into shipbuilding! Yes, I've had the frustration of pieces that should logically merge together not do so; I basically gave up shipbuilding at that time... Can't wait to start trying this method! Thanks for the video!!
Holy crap! I just discovered this today, only to find out you’ve already made a video on it. I know you referenced it a bunch in your reviews, but forests for the trees for me. Great video, redesigned a whole ship with this!
Thanks to this video i was finally able to learn how to merge the reactor, grav drive, cargo modules and several other components into just one neat 1x1 box. Thank you for the great tutorial! Now my Halo Pelican build looks much smoother.
Among the endlessly repeating trash videos about xp, tips, and making credits, is this absolutely amazing video, straight to the point with really useful info. Thank you!
Thank you for this! I was aware of the flip method and the variant method for merging parts, but not this duplicate/merge down method. Awesome! Now I know how I can get this cockpit to merge down into a particular landing gear.
Excellent! I'll be using these techniques in my ship building for sure!!
This is great! Thanks for this!
I'd been wondering how people did this for so long, thank you for this guide
exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Starship Design 5.
Definitely useful for optimal cockpit placement in some builds. Not sure I'll ever be clipping things into others, but could be a nice workaround in some cases.
Either way, good knowledge to have. 👍
Thanks for that great tip, will be using it for sure. Now to merge reactors and grav drives into the same space :)
Thanks for your efforts!
I'm told making your grav drive surrounded on all sides protects it in combat. So your technique is very useful in that regard. thanks heaps !
That's interesting, my grav drive is always the first thing to go down when I'm losing a fight in the Mantis ship, the Razorleaf; but I never really thought about protecting it because I rarely run from a fight anyway.
I always just assumed that the enemy were targeting it specifically to prevent me from running away, which is just fine with me! And if you survive it's always back up and running in a few seconds anyway. I'd prefer my grav drive to be targeted rather than my weapons..
@JoeBob79569 yes, you wonder if they shouldn't balance the combat Ai better , such that they target your weapons first ?
@@mike_d_melb_music_fan5229 I was actually thinking that this was the point, that the enemies want to disable the grav drive so that you can't run away from them.
But if they did target your weapons first then the only thing to do would be to jump out of there!
@JoeBob79569 yeah, but then the game says " you can't jump while in combat" , so what's the point of enemies going for your grav drive ? I dunno, I think the whole thing needs a re think. 😮🤔
@@mike_d_melb_music_fan5229 It's early in the morning here and my brain registered this as -"you can't fast travel while jumping"_ (which has caught me out a few times!) and so this comment really confused me for a second!
I think you can grav jump away from a fight alright alright though, but it has to be to a different system..
Thanks so much for this! The stroud eklund ships actually come with a glitched cockpit in this style and I was going crazy trying to duplicate it.
The second method is great, will be trying that out for sure!
So useful. I heard about it, but did not want to use it first. I am hours upon hours in this builder. I love it so much. But i guess i will have to use it now, because it would help alot i a few cases i used with other, normal techniques. As a workaround. But this feels still... legit :D Thanks for showing!
Edit: I hope they never fix this. But i guess it will stay. At least if this isn't corrupting saves, as one comment pointed oit that this can happen.
I couldn't see them ever fixing this as it doesn't really break the game, theres still limits to when and where you can do it
@@CrimsonFlyboy Of course of course. But it is more than enough for me. I mean, the Builder works fine most of the time and if there is a Problem, ifind a solution in a different approach while still getting what i imagined. This helps alot now. I just can dream of the stuff we will get via DLC and Mods for the builder.
OMG! This works. Thank you so much.
Glad it helped!
Doing the lords work, thank you sir
very useful! Thank you.
You sir deserve a medal And a gold star
Thank you, that will be very helpful :)
I've only ever merged one thing (the long Nova Cowling into the same Nova bridge that you showed). It caused some oddities that made the ship unplayable. The exit hatch led to the middle of the Akila wilderness. I was parked at the Akila City spaceport. It might have done that with any planet. Didn't test. I basically had to edit the ship, remove the merged part, and then run with it not merged from then on. If you can get your parts to merge without some sort of glitch, seems like a cool technique. Just be aware that there may be unintended consequences down the road.
That sounds a bit strange. That being said, if you merge items into habitats, they will stick through. That's why i tend to only merge items into non habitat modules
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Are there any clipping issues on the interior? Parts jumping around or just looking off?
If you merge items through the habitat modules, they will clip and be visible, but they won't have collision, meaning you can walk through them
Great tech, gonna be able to make cleaner designs.
Does it effect the interior of the ships?
It only affects the interior of the ship if you were to glitch a large object like a reactor inside a habitat module.
Great informative video and definitely improves on some of the clunkier looking snap-fits of the game but I want to ask if these techniques effect usability? If you were to merge a reactor through a hab module for instance. When in the ship does it show the reactor through the module rendering it inaccessible? I ask because I’ve noticed even “clean” builds I’ve made have had certain hiccups such as one hab being toxic for some reason in one corner no matter where I land my ship and another where Vasco is folded up in the middle of my workshop and makes it difficult to access one of the tables because of the game prioritising interaction with him (even though nothing happens when attempting to interact with him) over using the customisation table.
From what I've seen, if you merge items inside habitats modules, they can be seen from the inside, but a lot of them won't have collision mesh, meaning you can walk through them
@@CrimsonFlyboy thank you for getting back to me, I appreciate it! That’s good to know, definitely gonna have to play around with this tonight and see what I can conjur up! Thanks a lot for the upload!
I initially thought I'd be ignoring all of these glitching methods, but after seeing how finicky the ship building actually is in the game I think I'll start using them soon..
I'm currently hopping systems in a hab-monstrosity, trying to pick up all the unique parts I want, and connecting particular parts to particular places is already pissing me off.
Dont forget to make use of an outpost as then you can access all structural pieces. It is a bit of a pain having to hop around to get the exact pieces you want. I kind of wish there was a station that had all the pieces but charged a premium to install them
@@CrimsonFlyboy Yea, I ended up just grabbed a list of the console commands for all the unique ship parts, and slapped them into the console, so that they'd be available to me at the one place, it makes it so much easier.
It's absolutely ridiculous to have to hop back and forth between systems, adding parts, realising they don't suit you, and trying to remember the specs of the previous parts, and having to go somewhere else and try again.
It's hard enough just trying to get the layout right, and having to go back into the ship every time to check it, without having to travel around as well.
I generally don't like using the console for "cheating" (infinite money, etc) because it takes all the fun out of it, but in some situations, such as this, it's just more convenient.
Oh man i did this once and spent hours trying to figure it out and now im seeing the new update got rid of this
Have these been patched out on xbox or do they still work? I have a pretty cool ship that I want to use duplicate glitch on here pretty soon
They patched it,but kind of half added it back in. You can enable flip merging in the in game menu
Can you place an engine into another? (same part)
In order for the merge to work, it needs to have 2 snap points. So if you have 2 points to snap them, then yes, it will
Any way to merge weapons?
Yeah. Using the same technique you can merge weapons together
@CrimsonFlyboy I really appreciate this for merging aesthetic components together. However, it should be classifies as a cheat to merge grav drives, reactors and/or engines into other objects. Ship combat uses each of those as separate choice targets and using this glitch could reduce that target size or completely hide them from fire.
I've been blown up many times with these merged vessels, so you're not anymore or less safe by merging items. At the end of the day, it's a single-player game and doesn't affect anyone. It's your choice if you choose to do it or not.
If I flip it and exit it disappears or go back to previous position
Ya Beth fucked the setup so we cant do this now.... It is possible but not like this... Not as easy that is.
@ do you know a different way? I'm from xbox
In a game where you can lost over 30 hours of gameplay due to bug with ship building or ship stealing mechanics - merging parts which are not codded to be merged by design - is asking for trouble. Don't be surprised when you'll see you ship as inaccessible and without crew. It just works.
I've got well over 200 hours in the game, and I've never experienced any bugs or lost any ships to merge glitches. Obviously, your milage may vary.
@@CrimsonFlyboy It is still unclear what's the actual cause of this game breaking bug, but a lot of people were affected by it, me including. What we know so far is that it is 100% connected to ship building and ship stealing. But it is unclear how to repeat it manually as this seems like uncontrollable random bug. Lucky you.
When you see your landing bay as inaccessible, no longer see your crew on ship, when there is no Vasko outside of ship, when system authorities stop scanning you for contraband, when you are not getting your Star Eagle as reward - just so you know: you are fucked and has essentially lost X hours of gameplay. The more you play with ship building, the higher the chance, that much is clear.
After facing this bug for the first time, i am in permanent paranoia mode whenever i use ship building or trying to steal ship. That's how severe it is.
I can't get this to work to save my life. I'm desperately trying to merge my reactor to my grav drive and instead of going down the part just duplicated INTO itself or floats right on my curser instead of snapping down.
If its going into itself it doesnr have a snap point, you need to make sure you have two sets of snap points. You'll know if the merge can work if it tries to snap normally but it's red
Thia kinda changes the game
You know there's a console command you can run that basically turns off the proximity bits, right?
Im on xbox and dont have access to console commands
@@CrimsonFlyboy Ahah! Well, then, carry on.
what is the command?
They patched it.
This can cause graphical errors and corrupt your file. Just a warning 🤷🏽♂️
Apprechiated, thanks.
I have been using this method since very early on and have many many hours sunk into the game and have yet to see any errors or save corruption on my xbox.
Personally, i dont see how it would cause any issues aside from objects clipping a little. Have you personally experienced these issues, or are you going off what others have said.
Just be careful of overusing this. If this is patched, many players will find their ships unusable.
I dont think something like this would ever be patched. It's not gamebreaking in anyway.
@@CrimsonFlyboy It could be a nasty surprise if players' fleet only had builds utilizing this glitch. Then they have to spend hours correcting their ships.
I played a game called High Fleet in which there were all sorts of "cursed and illegal" optimizations. It didn't need to "break" the game. As soon as a mechanic became popular, it got patched away. And that happened multiple times until I got tired of starting from scratch and just downloaded other players' designs.
That "warning" wasn't there for nothing, cheesing usually means *fail*, in one way or another.
There was no warning shown in the video, and i dont know why it would fail.
I guess its patched.. its always copying to the top.
It's not patched, I did it an hour ago. Let it put one on the top first, then dupe the middle one again, and it should place on the bottom. You may need to move your camera around to get it working