I realized afterward that it might not be too clear as to what I meant. This isn't Alpha Primus, but one of Belisarius Cawl's secret psyker projects that involved using Thousand Sons Geneseed to create something not entirely Primaris or Space Marine. I hope it's obvious this isn't canon, just some fun little homebrew lore for this miniature.
Honestly the armor and pauldrons really makes it look like a pre-great crusade armour for the old Knights of Caliban, who had ancient power armor to fight warp creatures.
I just recently learned about loyalist Thousand Sons in the Siege of Cthonia and I'm all over it now 😂 Basically after the burning of Prospero, some 3000 Fifth Fellowship members fled the planet and eventually made their way to Terra. Malcador pardoned them and Dorn sent them to reinforce Cthonia and fight besides Imperial Fists and the Shattered Legions. Starting to build a loyalist 30k force but for 40k. Finally I can have some traitors and not feel bad about it 😂 And bruh great work with this mini, especially with the armor texture. The color choices for armor, scales and cloak work very well together!
The Horus Heresy books have been amazing in their ability to add more depth of grey to the conflict. Ahriman's books do a great job of mentioning how not everyone was on board with Magnus's plans, even those who fell to chaos. Damn, a whole army? That's awesome, mate. Thank you so much! Honestly, I was quite certain the armor wasn't going to be everyone's cup of tea, but it's amazing knowing some people enjoyed it 😅
@@stevenshea990 Siege of Cthonia confirms that those of the Fifth Fellowship who survived the siege eventually were integrated to Garrius' Imperial Fists force (as did some Cthonia-born inductii). Too bad GW retconned the origins of Exorcists chapter, as it used to be Imperial Fists, it would've made a lot of sense that those loyalist Thousand Sons' geneseed were used to create Exorcists then later on.
It’s heavily implied, at least- and several Primaris chapters were implied to have been Cawl ignoring Gulliman's command not to use the gene-lines of Traitor Legions, iirc. Basically, there's a lot of wriggle-room there. …and on a side-note, I am incredibly annoyed that part of the recent lore for the Blood Ravens was 'strip away that which made them interesting (the fact that Librarians could take leadership roles in the Chapter)@@stevenshea990
😄When I was done, I had a similar thought on how well you could translate it to a whole army. It starts off very difficult but over time I think you could get a decent speed going.
That is extremely cool, did you consider doing overlapping symbols instead of just random scratches for the non edge highlights? Wouldn't work for every project, but for word bearers or thousand sons maybe grey knights and some iron warriors as well as any chaos sorcerers or any of the more mystical librarians (white scars, space furries, exorcists)
It takes a ton of restraint to not include the legions colors on the armor or model when making something intended to be from that legions geneseed. However you nailed the figure without the need for it. Your justification for it in lore is entirely believable and I appreciate seeing your thoughts process!
Thank you so much mate. It's always a lot of fun making some random lore for every single unit I kitbash, most of the time it's more or less held together by the hair of 'I guess it could be possible' 😄
Leave it to Cawl to whip up a LOYALIST Thousand Sons, that kooky Archmagos! 😂 On the seriously, tho, great kitbash, I'm digging everything about this guy's vibe. Also, I like the ever-so-subtle nod to Magnus the Red's lone eye!
Cawl's ability to live inside the moments of pure insanity and pure genius is my favorite part. Not to mention the way writers use Cawl to casually drop impactful lore hints. Thank you so much mate! Great catch on the eye, honesty wasn't sure if anyone was going to pick up on the reference without the direct mention of it.
That could be a really idea, a secret company of Cawls experiments to perfect each geneseed. Them being no where near primarch level but well above normal primaris.
I would say that this is probably your best kitbash ever! Good job. Wish you would take the plunge and go for oil washes. Would be the icing on the cake,´.
My dude just shows up on my recommended, puts out some high quality painting, kitbashing, commentary, and videography, and instantly gets another sub. You rock dude this project was clean!
While I enjoy Age of Sigmar much more than 40k, I fear that with the "triumphant return" of the Old World, this wizardry setting and game may be gone. Of course, I'd rather die than become square based... or I have a chance to convert everything in my fantasy Collection to 40k! This will save both the round bases and the grimdark spirit of Warhammer, which I love so much!
Honestly not sometimes you should worry about, age of sigmar is doing great. Old world will likely be a much more niche game. Similar to necromunda in 40k
Incredible, the NMM you did was great! I’ve seen others do a super light dry brush of silver to give a bit of shine and sell it as metal. Maybe you could try that too!
Honestly, while I like it, I felt it still invokes more Stormcast than Space Marine. maybe a few extra bits like a pouch or two or some grenades, maybe adding a tubing/pipeline or two? also taking off the exposed lower leg and replacing it with a more Space Marine-like lower leg
been meaning to comment on this. love the concept and you nailed the painting him in non-Legion color scheme. he reminds me of the Black Sheilds of both DeathWatch and old.
Thanks you! Looking back on it, it's definitely one of those experimentations where I didn't think it would be nearly as nice as it ended up being. Funny you should mention Black Shields... 😅
The idea and concept is a very good idea. Thinking outside of the box is great. The model has more of a sisters of battle silhouette than a space marine. It’s very slender for a chunky marine. But great job.
I saw homebrew and got happy lol. I'm currently working on my first mini + first soldier in my homebrew chapter. Basically The Primarch, Malachai Thrax, was slain in battle but not before having two sons. Both would inherit the legion before them but the younger of the two would fall to chaos during the Horus Heresy. Lots of fighting, brutal, bloody, but also heart wrenching as it's literally brothers, friends, and comrades fighting. In the end the brothers fight near one of their old hangout spots and the younger of the two has a Darth Vader "Coming back to the light" end. The legion you ask? Bane of Tartarus with the traitor side of Sons of Tartarus (Split into 4 warbands named after the Greek sons of Tartarus)
That's awesome 😄 Sounds like you put a great deal of thought into it. Having so much lore before you get started on them is always a great help as you're able to slowly bring the vision you have in mind to the surface. Keep making awesome lore for as many of your units as you can, it will make them even more special.
@@AnotherDayMiniatures Truly. Im thinking of making this first marine something of the Underdog for the chapter. Astartes aspirant that climbed the ranks and completed the challenges quickly
Turned out very cool, but i think you should’ve replaced the shoulder pads. I converted this same model as a Primaris ancient for my dark angels and relaxed the non Lion shoulder pad.
So i used the same base mini inspired by this video to make a thousand son sorcerer, but still chaotic. Let me tell you: adding actual thousand son pauldrons makes adding the backpack a lot harder -_-
I think the Dornian Heresy might interest you incase if you plan on doing more conversions themed around Loyalist versions of Traitor Legion or vice versa
Hello! As usual your videos are always Awesome and informative!! I was wondering if I could ask you about the head that is being used on the figure at around the 2:49 mark? (Where you mention about maybe doing another figure in the future) it’s a bald head with the beard 😃 It would be most appreciated for any info!!
Thank you so much for the kind words! Yeah absolutely, that is actually the head that comes with that body. Those are the push to fit stormcast eternal models out of the dominion box set. You can probably find a lot of them heavily discounted online.
Yea, sure thing. Pro Acryl Dark Umber, AK Dark Blue Grey, Citadel Bugmans glow, Pro Acryl Burnt Red, Pro Acryl Jade, Pro Acryl Golden Brown, Pro Acryl Turquoise, AK Orange Brown and AK White.
In Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work, it's very heavily implied that Alpha Primus has geneseed from every legion. When they look through a dimensional mirror, there's 20 alpha primuses on the other side. He's a representation of Cawls arrogance
I did hear that the rule set is a lot more stable. I think for how young AoS is, it's in a great place. The underworld boxes blow my mind, shocked 40k doesn't have something similar. There are indeed some great books for AoS, I think the last one I listened to was a short story about a Stormcast trapped in a Tzeentch labyrinth.
I realized afterward that it might not be too clear as to what I meant. This isn't Alpha Primus, but one of Belisarius Cawl's secret psyker projects that involved using Thousand Sons Geneseed to create something not entirely Primaris or Space Marine. I hope it's obvious this isn't canon, just some fun little homebrew lore for this miniature.
Honestly the armor and pauldrons really makes it look like a pre-great crusade armour for the old Knights of Caliban, who had ancient power armor to fight warp creatures.
The lion on the shoulder does hint at a nice Dark Angel connection, would be a great alternative kitbash.
blud casually drops one of the cleanest paint jobs ive seen
Cheers mate!
Getting some massive Pre-Heresy Word Bearers vibes, with the grayish swirly Armour, and red cloth.
Absolutely gorgeous looking model
Thank you! Now that you mentioned it, I really do see it. 😅
"Chief librarian volos of the ashen wraiths looking upon his so-called 'noble chapter' with disgust. Seeing only barbarians."
"So anyway I started blasting" 😄
I just recently learned about loyalist Thousand Sons in the Siege of Cthonia and I'm all over it now 😂 Basically after the burning of Prospero, some 3000 Fifth Fellowship members fled the planet and eventually made their way to Terra. Malcador pardoned them and Dorn sent them to reinforce Cthonia and fight besides Imperial Fists and the Shattered Legions. Starting to build a loyalist 30k force but for 40k. Finally I can have some traitors and not feel bad about it 😂 And bruh great work with this mini, especially with the armor texture. The color choices for armor, scales and cloak work very well together!
The Horus Heresy books have been amazing in their ability to add more depth of grey to the conflict. Ahriman's books do a great job of mentioning how not everyone was on board with Magnus's plans, even those who fell to chaos. Damn, a whole army? That's awesome, mate. Thank you so much! Honestly, I was quite certain the armor wasn't going to be everyone's cup of tea, but it's amazing knowing some people enjoyed it 😅
But than you should feel guilty for playing followers of the false emperor..
Also Blood Ravens are all but confirmed to be loyalist T-Sons, and Minotaurs to be loyalist(ish) Iron Warriors.
@@stevenshea990 Siege of Cthonia confirms that those of the Fifth Fellowship who survived the siege eventually were integrated to Garrius' Imperial Fists force (as did some Cthonia-born inductii). Too bad GW retconned the origins of Exorcists chapter, as it used to be Imperial Fists, it would've made a lot of sense that those loyalist Thousand Sons' geneseed were used to create Exorcists then later on.
It’s heavily implied, at least- and several Primaris chapters were implied to have been Cawl ignoring Gulliman's command not to use the gene-lines of Traitor Legions, iirc. Basically, there's a lot of wriggle-room there.
…and on a side-note, I am incredibly annoyed that part of the recent lore for the Blood Ravens was 'strip away that which made them interesting (the fact that Librarians could take leadership roles in the Chapter)@@stevenshea990
Thanks, now I have to repaint my army in this style
😄When I was done, I had a similar thought on how well you could translate it to a whole army. It starts off very difficult but over time I think you could get a decent speed going.
Loyalist Thousand Sons.
So the Blood Ravens?
I'll have to check his pockets on the way out, see if he yoinked any chapter relics on his way out 😄
Absolutely love the armor
the way you painted it makes it look like it's a heavily dented metal or that it's made of stone.
Thank you! I didn't think of it at the time, but after it was done I got very similar feel of it.
Damn that cloth texture looks really nice... Gives me silk vibes
Cheers! It's a bit ironic, but the chaotic texture really gives it a silk like feeling.
Stormcasts and Space Marines are a match made in heaven, when it comes to kitbashing.
They really are, the scale isn't just"close" I'm quite certain its 1:1.
This is a beautiful mini I love the armor paint job
Cheers mate!
That is extremely cool, did you consider doing overlapping symbols instead of just random scratches for the non edge highlights? Wouldn't work for every project, but for word bearers or thousand sons maybe grey knights and some iron warriors as well as any chaos sorcerers or any of the more mystical librarians (white scars, space furries, exorcists)
Honestly didn't cross my mind but that could potentially be really cool. A lot more time and effort but if done right, could look awesome. 🤘
I think that colour scheme would also be fantastic for agents of sigilite marines
That's a great point.
It takes a ton of restraint to not include the legions colors on the armor or model when making something intended to be from that legions geneseed. However you nailed the figure without the need for it. Your justification for it in lore is entirely believable and I appreciate seeing your thoughts process!
Thank you so much mate. It's always a lot of fun making some random lore for every single unit I kitbash, most of the time it's more or less held together by the hair of 'I guess it could be possible' 😄
Leave it to Cawl to whip up a LOYALIST Thousand Sons, that kooky Archmagos! 😂 On the seriously, tho, great kitbash, I'm digging everything about this guy's vibe. Also, I like the ever-so-subtle nod to Magnus the Red's lone eye!
Cawl's ability to live inside the moments of pure insanity and pure genius is my favorite part. Not to mention the way writers use Cawl to casually drop impactful lore hints. Thank you so much mate! Great catch on the eye, honesty wasn't sure if anyone was going to pick up on the reference without the direct mention of it.
Oh nice! There's lots potential with kitbashing Stormcasts into Marines. It's always cool to see a new take on it.
There really is, I've seen some amazing stuff that people made with them.
Wow, that is fantastic looking, defo inspired me to get my storm ast/aeldari farseer kitbash done!
Cheers mate. Also that sounds awesome! Safe to say there's a lot of Stormcast marines, but it's the first time i hear of Eldar stormcast.
"barely no ornaments"
laugh in old assault marines skull hand decors and first born drip
Those dudes did have some nice skulls.
it would have been perfect for a minotaur space marine too, both because of their spartan aesthetic and their posible iron warrior liniage
That's a great point, could be a cool idea for a future one.
Amazing! It'd be awesome to see a loyalist of every traitor legion for this legion
That could be a really idea, a secret company of Cawls experiments to perfect each geneseed. Them being no where near primarch level but well above normal primaris.
I like this guy, he is good !
Cheers mate 😄🤘
I would say that this is probably your best kitbash ever! Good job. Wish you would take the plunge and go for oil washes. Would be the icing on the cake,´.
Thank you! I did use them a lot in the past, but recently just haven't had the patience for it. Might revisit them in the future!
phenomenal paintjob! love this method, it turned out great!!
Thank you!
My dude just shows up on my recommended, puts out some high quality painting, kitbashing, commentary, and videography, and instantly gets another sub. You rock dude this project was clean!
Thank you so much mate!
Looks awesome. Best one yet
Cheers mate!😃
I'm only half way through and it already looks amazing!
Thank you! :D
I really dig this! I love all the lore surrounding Cawl and hope we get more!
Cheers! I hope they continue with Cawl, the books are currently being written in a very enthralling manner.
Cawl: Can I do some heresy?
Imperium: Only a Labful.
Cawl: *pulls out comically large laboratory*
The storm cast work so well! Nice!
Thank you!
Love how this turned out. My mind goes to an inquisitor when I see it.
He does have an elegant authority look to him. 😄
This dude looks cool. Turning him from an AoS was a great idea!
Thanks mate! Wanted to try the Stormcast marine kitbash for a while now.
That’s dope. I’ve got a couple of those. You’ve given me some inspiration. Thanks.
Cheers!
Thats so awesome dude, well done
Thanks mate!
While I enjoy Age of Sigmar much more than 40k, I fear that with the "triumphant return" of the Old World, this wizardry setting and game may be gone.
Of course, I'd rather die than become square based... or I have a chance to convert everything in my fantasy Collection to 40k!
This will save both the round bases and the grimdark spirit of Warhammer, which I love so much!
Honestly not sometimes you should worry about, age of sigmar is doing great. Old world will likely be a much more niche game. Similar to necromunda in 40k
Incredible, the NMM you did was great! I’ve seen others do a super light dry brush of silver to give a bit of shine and sell it as metal. Maybe you could try that too!
Thank you! That's a very interesting idea, never thought of doing that. I'll have to test it out sometime, cheers.
Honestly, while I like it, I felt it still invokes more Stormcast than Space Marine. maybe a few extra bits like a pouch or two or some grenades, maybe adding a tubing/pipeline or two? also taking off the exposed lower leg and replacing it with a more Space Marine-like lower leg
Definitely great suggestion. Cheers!
been meaning to comment on this. love the concept and you nailed the painting him in non-Legion color scheme. he reminds me of the Black Sheilds of both DeathWatch and old.
Thanks you! Looking back on it, it's definitely one of those experimentations where I didn't think it would be nearly as nice as it ended up being. Funny you should mention Black Shields... 😅
Another awesome job 🇦🇺👍🏻
Thanks mate! 😀
This is very cool! Really like the painting style.
Thank you so much 😀
Really love the color on the cloth! Gonna steal it a bit :)
Cheers mate!
The idea and concept is a very good idea. Thinking outside of the box is great. The model has more of a sisters of battle silhouette than a space marine. It’s very slender for a chunky marine. But great job.
Thanks! It does have a bit more elegance to it.
I saw homebrew and got happy lol. I'm currently working on my first mini + first soldier in my homebrew chapter. Basically The Primarch, Malachai Thrax, was slain in battle but not before having two sons. Both would inherit the legion before them but the younger of the two would fall to chaos during the Horus Heresy. Lots of fighting, brutal, bloody, but also heart wrenching as it's literally brothers, friends, and comrades fighting. In the end the brothers fight near one of their old hangout spots and the younger of the two has a Darth Vader "Coming back to the light" end.
The legion you ask? Bane of Tartarus with the traitor side of Sons of Tartarus (Split into 4 warbands named after the Greek sons of Tartarus)
That's awesome 😄 Sounds like you put a great deal of thought into it. Having so much lore before you get started on them is always a great help as you're able to slowly bring the vision you have in mind to the surface. Keep making awesome lore for as many of your units as you can, it will make them even more special.
@@AnotherDayMiniatures Truly. Im thinking of making this first marine something of the Underdog for the chapter. Astartes aspirant that climbed the ranks and completed the challenges quickly
Everyone loves a good underdog story 😀👍
Damn, awesome mini. Great video. Got my sub!
Thank you. Cheers mate!
Looks great but it'd be nice to see it next to some other Space Marines in order to get a proper idea of how it fits in terms of scale and proportions
Thanks! I'll try to keep that in mind. Overall stormcasts are 1:1 to primaris scale, with a slightly slimmer appearance of the their new armor.
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Karl Casey slaps hard. Honestly hard to find open licence music that competes with his stuff 😄
@@AnotherDayMiniaturesYour minis looks fantastic love your style keep up the good work !
Thank you so much! @@bertinfranck8345
gorgeous
thanks!
holy shit, awsome!
😄🤘 Thanks
Ahh yes. The II legion space marine
Looks like it could be one of the original grey knights. Im pretty sure one or more were thousans sons
Ooo that's interesting. Not familiar with grey knights origin myself outside of them being put together by Malcador.
Turned out very cool, but i think you should’ve replaced the shoulder pads. I converted this same model as a Primaris ancient for my dark angels and relaxed the non Lion shoulder pad.
Thanks! That's awesome, it's definitely an amazing for fit an ancient.
looks more like an inquisitior than a space marine
There really is something inquisitorial about him, ironically.
Merci pour la vidéo
Heureux que cela vous ait plu
So i used the same base mini inspired by this video to make a thousand son sorcerer, but still chaotic. Let me tell you: adding actual thousand son pauldrons makes adding the backpack a lot harder -_-
Yeah I can imagine it's a very difficult conversion to transform the shoulders. However your idea sounds amazing and was most likely well worth it.
I think the Dornian Heresy might interest you incase if you plan on doing more conversions themed around Loyalist versions of Traitor Legion or vice versa
I have heard some vague things about it, ill have to look into it. Cheers👍
Any chance you remember where you got that base from? It matches the austhetic of the army i am painting up perfectly.
It was gifted to me by someone, no idea where from.
Hello! As usual your videos are always Awesome and informative!!
I was wondering if I could ask you about the head that is being used on the figure at around the 2:49 mark? (Where you mention about maybe doing another figure in the future) it’s a bald head with the beard 😃
It would be most appreciated for any info!!
Thank you so much for the kind words! Yeah absolutely, that is actually the head that comes with that body. Those are the push to fit stormcast eternal models out of the dominion box set. You can probably find a lot of them heavily discounted online.
@@AnotherDayMiniatures Thank you so much for the Info!! I appreciate it!!
I’ll look into the Dominion box set online!
Cheers!!!
Cool Vid, Where is the head from, please?
Thanks! I'm not 100% but I think its the new Space Marines Company Heroes box set.
Possible to get a list of colors/paints used?
Yea, sure thing. Pro Acryl Dark Umber, AK Dark Blue Grey, Citadel Bugmans glow, Pro Acryl Burnt Red, Pro Acryl Jade, Pro Acryl Golden Brown, Pro Acryl Turquoise, AK Orange Brown and AK White.
Bro really said TAMAIA
Indeeeed!
👍
Cheers!
Does anyone know where to find the base he used?
In Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work, it's very heavily implied that Alpha Primus has geneseed from every legion. When they look through a dimensional mirror, there's 20 alpha primuses on the other side. He's a representation of Cawls arrogance
In the next book about Cawl vs Fabius Bile, they hint at Alpha Primus and, specifically, his geneseed a little more. Fantastic book.
Cawls brilliance*
where did you get the file for that base?
No idea unfortunately, the base was a given to me from someone in my local kill team group.
Isn't Alpha Primaris a Primarch level Primaris? :o
Must closer to a Custodian, Primarchs are in a tier of their own.
It’s a damn shame 40K overshadows AoS. AoS is a better game with better models, and the lore is getting really good as well.
I did hear that the rule set is a lot more stable. I think for how young AoS is, it's in a great place. The underworld boxes blow my mind, shocked 40k doesn't have something similar. There are indeed some great books for AoS, I think the last one I listened to was a short story about a Stormcast trapped in a Tzeentch labyrinth.
First
🥇 😄
Using stormcast for chaos cringe
Chaos ? 🤨
Awesome
Cheers 🙂