I like the fact that the CSGO crowd just makes it so emotional whenever someone does a clutch or dies. The valor ant crowd on the other hand is like watching a piano concert
The guy in the video said it perfectly. In Valorant, if you are in a clutch situation, you either have an advantage or a disadvantage depending on your agent. That is not taking any individual mechanics and skills into account. In CS, if you wanna win a clutch, you're on your own and that's why every play is so memorable and gets the crowd going.
@@UOHCUNY wtf are you talking about?? Did you even understand what I meant? Util is always gonna be used but agents have different utils and some are better and worse depending on the match up. Are you saying agent advantage doesn't exit during clutch moments in Valorant? For a post-plant retake 1vX scenario, is Reyna or say, util heavy agent like Viper or Brimstone, which is gonna be easier?
@@sh1ro9 read my comment again. Barring post plant mollies, there are no advantages of agents in a 1v1. Game doesn't have passive abilities aside from Jett glide
To be fair, Japan crowds are like that, no matter what game or event is happening. They are disciplined to show their suppodr by just clapping and avoiding howls or any loud noises like whistling. It might look like the crowd felt no hype, but it's just how they are disciplined to do.
Also to be fair, how many chances has valorant had to have crowds. CS has history but valorant is new. Plus pandemic ig. But even then it’s not wrong that abilities kill some level of skill expression.
also you have to remember this was in December of last year when the Japanese gov did not allow for cheering until early this year. I was living in Japan at the time, boy, just getting a public event going was difficult.
You do realize that valorant is a much newer game and the fact that we are just coming out of covid restrictions. They barely started letting people into the event this year.
@@Artugioo dude you talk like the coov's still going on for valorant. Those crowd reactions shown for cs are the most recent ones. Don't tell us that valorant hasn't had any major tournaments during the past two years? If anything, the crowd should be more hyped to finally attend these events and pour their passion for these games and show up cs if they really are crazy addicted to valorant. And don't tell me that valorant hasn't had the time to grow. Valorant people like to brag that it's one of the biggest/fastest growing/most non-tournament views on twitch
@@ark7395 anyone can take clips out of context, the best thing csgo has going for it its better organized tournaments and more developed fanbases. Taking clips out of context to make one game look worse is just gonna make you look a fool and take any argument out of your best point in this idiotic debate on which game is better. just take any clip out of louds games in Brazil and you will have a more hype crowd then the Tokyo one, but comparing a Japanese crowd which does not have a culture of screaming alot or standing out of the masses to a French one which has a culture influenced by football fans and trying to make a serious point out of it is just idiocy. also more context: Final of the last csgo major with a 2 french players on a homecrowd ending the legacy of a game that is more then a decade old building storylines compared to 2 clips of a japanese regional league out of a groupstage of a qualifier to a major.
Valorant is legit a game that feels like a game meanwhile CS feels like an actual sport, I think this is a better way to put it rather than the Cassidy effect
For the valorant clip of ZETA, the Japan crowd has a cultural difference with western crowd, they will not yell and scream or make noise through their mouth. It would be unfair to use that clip to compare but honestly csgo is way better than valorant in most of the aspects .
@@masterb0ss I appreciate you sharing your thought by replying me. Yes, there are so many hackers in cs. I, myself play in the region with most hackers I believe but it’s just better than having smurfs everywhere ruining other’s experience creating unbalanced skill differences. In cs, you can just ask the enemy team to kick the hacker, some cannot because the hack is so ridiculous they can only team kill the hacker. For valorant, smurfs will not be banned and even they now have the new rank system to counter smurfs, they are still everywhere. You can say it’s easier to beat a Smurf than a hacker but hackers resist in every game bro. I guess I don’t really need to tell everyone who hasn’t played valorant how toxic and immature ranked players behave in valorant. I have been playin it since the first day, I believe I know more than enough. Just don’t wanna make a list explaining everything because that would be the creator’s job. Anyway, I appreciate you sharing your opinion here with everybody.
Eh I've seen csgo events in china that generate a lot of noise but still you can tell it isn't a western event because the noise isn't crazy for a csgo event.
CSGO crowds are nuts. I remember watching the Malta major back in the day and the crowds were so loud it was interrupting play. The players couldn't hear the game in their headsets.
look up a clip from Valorant's LOCK//IN tournament when a brazilian team like LOUD or FURIA is playing. that is probably the most hype i've seen valorant crowds
Half the reason is riot kept the crowds small originally for covid, but did so for so long, the culture of attending in person is just kind of missing. The brazil crowd was great for the brazilian teams tho, apparently lol
If you argue that time has made csgo more popular, than you can also argue the opposite, you wouldn’t know that maybe there was a time csgo became less popular as time went on, you arguing that because csgo has been out longer it should have a better crowd but that would mean the opposite could also be true
as a CS main this is an unfair comparison imo, a game with a decade of history vs a game that just turned 3 years old with not many events, Japanese crowds are very reserve as well.
You're the most logical out of them all. I love the Boston Major to death but it's so unfair to compare to Valorant that was birthed in COVID, had significantly less time to establish a scene, and was referenced for their Major in Japan, the country with the most polite and reserved culture. If anything, the fact they got this far this fast and pulled off what they had so soon is remarkable.
yeah super biased. valorant started right at the start of the pandemic and riot really does not host as many LANs as CS does, especially since it's only been possible for them to host them for like barely 1 1/2 years now
TBF, Japanese crowds, even korean crowds tend to be more quiet until the end. Even in concerts or boxing / mma, the crowds arent rowdy like western countries. I grew up playing cs 1.6 all my life and a little cs go, been playing valorant for 2 years now. Skills are flashy and mechanically cs is harder, but with valorant you have to think more because of these skills, and there are more angles to check / hide / play than cs in my opinion, and valorant abilities actually takes skills to use properly. That being said, i do think the valorant crowd is more of the awkward introverted side compared to cs.
unfortunately in all VCT (valorant's majors) streams the crowd noise is always suppressed, you can hear the full noise of the crowd on some of the in-person costreamer's streams. I noticed this when on the official VCT stream the crowd sounded quiet while on Tarik's stream you could barely hear him speak over the crowd during VCT Lock In
The thing is, that the stadiums for the current Kick off events (besides Pacific as always) are super small as well. The Americas kick off looks like a internet Caffè while pacific has a pretty bug stadium. It's weird to me
I mean too be fair to valorant, japanese crowds are never crazy hype like Europe or brazil crowds. Its mainly because of their culture's calm nature that they're known for.
CS has had decades to develop their history and fans. Valorant has only had 3 years and only one with crowds due to the global pandemic. Comparing modern Valorant to modern CS simply isn't fair, but regardless, both are doing just fine.
this is 100% what i was thinking, i will now be attending every Valorant tourney with a trumpet and my country flag on my back. time to make these crowds so much more entertaining
I'm a valorant player tbh i don't get the comparison. Like for one valorant has a goddamn story and the skill of it's agents are explainable. just because it is fps it doesn't mean generally that it is the same with cs:go, if there's one that should be compared with cs:go it is crossfire, every time I see any cs:go going "valorant sucks because of skills cs:go better" I'm like dude it's meant to be like that it's even the reason some cs:go pros decided to fcking switch.
Exactly. Csgo has like over 20 years worth of fanbase. The comparison lacks. And im a 100% CSGO fan but one day it will be like that in valorant events aswell.
@@Crypted542csgo pros switch because they could find an opportunity to win on valorant tournaments when it came out. other reason is because they were just not too skilled enough to face against the top best team and players. and it has been a few months since cs2 announcement, and considerable amount of former csgo pros are returning. the switch is switching back.
I was at VCT LOCK//IN final in São Paulo. The crowd obviously gets more intense just by being brazil other than europe, u know? But I feel that even by this factor, the crowd could get more intense. Im a shy guy, but when it comes to competitive sports, I support like a true fanatic, to Man. United, to BR Valorant teams, to my college team matches and etc. And I felt that the ppl around me was just shy to get the fucking ass off the chair and scream for their team. I was crazy screaming for LOUD at each good round and I asked myself: am I over reacting, am I the crazy guy right there or these people just never got to a stadium before? like ppl, cmon stand up and support our team. You can see me standing up and screming bad words after a decisive point for LOUD in the stream VOD xD
and yeah, BTW, the auctor of the video could just search more for valorant crowds other than just typing in the youtube search bar for... valorant crowds
and, nAAAh, that cassidy effect its not really whats going on, Valorant still has some true abilities to show off and get the crowd hyped. More than CS? of course not, but still has.
Also worth mentioning that the reason Valo has way less memorable reaction moments as of now is because when the Val Esports scene first started it was during COVID, so we're only now getting big LAN tournaments, meanwhile CS has had them for over a decade.
Fun fact, every CS tournament sounds like that. I will admit, Valorant crowds do have some loud moments, but not nearly as many. (Source: I’ve been to both)
This is dumb. Crowds are just players who decided to show up. And as wel all know, CSGO players > Valorant players. Therefore, CSGO crowds > Valorant crowds.
I've been playing cs since 1.1 or 1.2 and I've never played valorant but you can't compare a Japanese crowd to a Brazilian crowd, with the utmost respect to both cultures and countries, you're comparing the most well mannered, well behaved public to the most passionate and party happy people. Even if you compare the crowds in the same sport, like football or f1, the Japanese are going to be enthusiastic but reserved and the Brazilians will be energetic and going crazy. The other valorant crowd looks like what a crowd at a tournament of 1.6 or GO would look like 10 to 15 years ago, when the scene started to move away from totally wild Lans to a more professional, legitimate E-sport. Plus the crowd was smaller, you get a small cs event and the crowd will be tame too, ie. when they play in Malta, where between 8 and 50 ppl show up for normal games and the final pulls in 200.
6:46 Bro even by CS:GO standards, this clip of a fast paced takedown with a sniper, not even the BEAST sniper, is actually pretty fuckin hype. It was slick af The fact that the crowd was still pretty quiet over it is crazy 💀Aintnoway Next crowd we gon see everyone is gonna be snapping their fingers like a Poetry Recital, it'd at least be better than the clapping sticks though 😆
@@alextinica7914 I love shitting on Valorant as much as the next guy but a skilled player is a skilled player. Also, half of the Valorant crowd were probably part of a CSGO crowd before.
That's why I love being Brazilian, here our fans are always absurd when there are Brazilians playing, we always have a huge and beautiful party to watch, whatever sport it is...
Why are we all overlooking the two main reasons? I dont Get it. 1: Csgo tournaments, players and teams have competed for years, and people have been watching for a long time. 2: Csgo tournaments literally serve alcohol, and 50% of the people hyping are drunk off their asses
its not like valorant crowds are banned to do so or i dont think that it is. Also Its been 3 years since valorant release if it cant stay relevant with people it wont last long
@@B4SS1L1SK bro there were no crowds until 1 year ago, and also YES they are definitely not allowed to drink alcohol in the venue. this is riot we are talking about
6 screens actually make sense. It's all about crowd distance, if you're far back, you naturally align your vision with the biggest screen since it's bigger and higher up, lines up perfectly. Vise versa, the closer you are the smaller and lower the screen is so you won't break your neck looking up
the crazy abilities and the sensory overload causes dopamine levels to go to a new peak and when the basic stuff happens like someone getting a kill, even though you may receive a dopamine hit, you will be nowhere near that peak
It because people who watches valorant are actually normal people. They’re not hardcore gamers and they just enjoy the game. I know csgo crowd is wild but you know those people ain’t no normal 💀
@@ecoooooooooo Bro the most normal gamers you'll see is from valorant. they're more like the people who see actualy goes outside. league and cs them people are built different
csgo crowds already old and have their own lives and families, you are a virgin playing inferior cartoon game. Even washed up csgo players move there to actually win something
Its funny how Japan is the most hype Valorant crowd, when they put so much afford and value on constantly being humble and respectful, trying not to bother others. And i get what the other guy said. Valorant is like a michael bay movie. You need calm before the storm in a way.
Honestly most of it is just that CS:GO is super easy to understand. It’s hard to tell if something is impressive in Valorant because of all those flashy abilities. When played well each character is going to look completely different. In CS we know EXACTLY what impressive gameplay looks like and it makes it way more easy to get excited because every single person in the crowd knows exactly what they’re looking at.
I will say Japanese crowds are supposed to be very polite even if they feel excited, so someone can be performing a hype song and the Japanese crowd will just sit and watch
I've been lucky enough to attend a game for at least one of all the major sports in America. CS crowds aren't as loud just because of the difference in attendance but man is everyone in that building passionate and screaming their head off.
I literally got into csgo because I was watching a streamer watch a tournament. It was so hype and I loved every second of it. I was glued to my screen like usually I have shit on second monitor but watching it I put it on main screen with no gaming nothing just stream.
I loved the crowds when the old Virtus Pro with Polish players was playing. Legit after every single kill, the polish fans were cheering like they are gonna destroy the whole building.
the thing is its also about the teams, the most hype team was paper rex, they always did something goofy they always played goofy stuff like that, but every other team just walks on stage, pose and plays, but for some reason teams like paper rex or sentinals when they had dapr, always gets hated on
As a Valorant player that has been playing the game since it first came out, I genuinely prefer to attend a csgo/cs2 tournement than a Valorant tournment, althought the Valorant crowds better nowadays, CS just feels like im watching football, while i prefer the mecanics from valorant, CS is just beautiful to watch, thank god im going to the Blast open Spring finals
in my opinion of why the crowds are so different is the age of CS, people are much more passionate and most of them are not from the US which means they probably are fans of Football and those people are the best for crowds. Like, look at VCT Lock/in Sao Paulo the Brazilians were great crowd
its like comparing football with handball, in football a 1:0 or a 0:0 are pretty common. Goals in general happen rarely but if they happen, the Crowd is going Wild. While in Handball there are way more goals happening, so the crowd is used to having like 40 goals in a single game, and ofc they dont react very crazy on every single goal and celebrate it like they do in football.
Just recently I saw an out of this world ace from TS Jremy in Valorant, if that was with a live crowd, I think the stadium would've erupted. Also, you have to take into consideration the what kind of event that is? Which country the event was held? Which team was playing? Or, who's gameplay was showcased on that big screen? A lot of factors has to be taken into consideration if we're going to judge crowd reaction. I don't understand why people has to put drama between 2 games, can't they coexist together without the fanbase going for each other's throat?
it’s pretty simple why csgo has better crowds, the games just been out longer and has a larger more dedicated fan base. compare that with valorant which only came out on 2020. It’s the same with any type of entertainment. It’s actually pretty impressive that valorant already has crowds this big. give val a couple years and maybe you’ll have the crowd going into stripper mode after a killjoy turret is placed down.
Well that's not really fair because even the old csgo crowds were pretty good and you shouldn't really count the time but more the popularity and valorant is pretty popular and a decent game too.
@@trisfaleelI would argue time plays a heavy part for popularity and therefore crowds. How would a game that is only be 3 years old be have the same level of dedication and expressiveness as one that’s been 11. Not to mention the fan base of csgo are generally more older. crowds have been very more expressive about it since they been involved in the competitive scene for longer.
@@trisfaleel old csgo crows were pretty good because there was no other game that has such a big fanbase, csgo basically made the fps shooter genre in game tournaments explode. csgo has had way more time and way more of an advantage due to its simplicity. csgo portrays something that could and almost has happened in real life, while valorant is completely made up, which makes it harder to both develop and come up with. CSGO has had more time to grow its crowd and popularity, and that's just how it is
@@toiletpaper3487 lol clearly you are young here. This sounds like cope more than anything. Time really doesnt matter, I've been to early LAN of csgo, not even a major, its still hype af. The crowds are just that good. I've been to valorant champion once in Istanbul, its not even as good.
If you have ever been to a concert in Japan, you know the type of people that go to Valorant events. They are silent. During a Japanese concert, 99% of the time you won't hear a singular word from the crowd. It feels the same with Val. Though in Japan it is pure respect. It feels the same way for Valorant... Besides NA kick-off currently where people just scream the exact position of the last player standing on a Team. Good thing you can't hear it as a player
as a valorant player(pls don't flame me I started playing it during covid, did touch CS cause I don't want to deal with hackers or third party servers) the problem with valorant and crowd reactions is that valorant is less mechanically difficult, but more strategically difficult(you have to consider the agents you choose and the agents on the enemy team) and all the flashy things are abilities meant to set up a kill, but the kill itself is not flashy, the setting up part(like the 5:54 entry) is flashy, but it's just the set up to a potentially good play, so no one wants to cheer just yet, but when the play works out, it just doesn't have the same hype anymore since the flashy part is over like 10 seconds ago comparing to CS, where a good play will lead to kills a lot quicker, and the hype has not died down yet of course there's the culture around CS since it's been around longer, but that's hard to put into tangible variables in terms of crowd reacitons
I think a lot of the crowd culture evolves over time. Valorant hasn't had a crowd for a full event until like 6 months ago, first crowd was at Masters Copenhagen. And so the crowd culture hasn't really been made. Masters Tokyo the event going on right now has an amazing crowd but still it doesn't compare to CSGO yet, because again, that crowd 1 doesn't have a Japanese team to cheer for and 2 because it hasn't had a chance to evolve yet. CSGO has had crowds for so long, and so that culture has been made. The clouted teams don't really exist in Valorant, so for example, Sentinels are the most famous org in Valorant. Anyone from anywhere will support Sentinels because they are sentinels. In CS there is so many teams to cheer for, Faze, Vitality, Heroic. Another thing is, Valorant grew in the covid era, so event also just didn't really have the ability to shout. If you look at the regional league crowds they are very hype now. The The culture 1 hasn't been evolved yet and 2 its just not as global as CS. But, I am a kinda biased Valorant player.
you should do this again after val master tokyo, japan crowds at this time still had mask mandates and they aren't allowed to shout or cheer inside closed venues, that has been lifted at the start of 2023
Speaking as an OW player, it feels really weird to hear people say that Valorant is a fast/action-packed/ADD game. OW is the game for 2-second attention spans and we know it. Valorant feels like so slow in comparison just because action is so spread out. As to the "Cassidy effect," we find moments like that interesting because normally the moment someone uses high noon, everyone is somehow behind a wall and also you just die because you have to stand still, so seeing more than a single high noon elim is actually kinda wild. It's fine to have crazy moments when all of your moments are at least a little bit crazy.
Ngl, i think if you want to get the full espors experience, watch some of the most hype tournaments in csgo. I lost my shit when Cloud 9 won 2018 Boston Eleague tournament. Context: from what my memory can tell this was the first time Competitive North America won something as big as this tournament. Cloud 9 were not just the underdogs, they were expected to loose by a lot of people and be one of the first to be kicked out. Only then to say "hold my beer" as they went and win the entire tournament. Mind you this is not just an NA thing, Every major team that could qualify was there. It had one of the longest and nail biting grand finals as they kept going into overtime as both FaZe and Cloud 9 refused to give up. With the entire crowd chanting "SEND THEM HOME!!" Also other streamers were tuning in while they were streaming because of how big of a moment this was for NA csgo
this guy cant live with the fact that valorant is way better than cs. He is naggin the valorant crowds in random events 💀💀. This man looks more like a fan than a real valorant fan wth
i think it is just the fact that Valorant is a new game (came out 2021) and the E-sports scene is just not so old that the crowd is not as big as the ones in CSGO
Its not that hard to understand why CSGO crowd is wild .... Cause CSGO its the equivalent of football in FPS Games , you cant reinvent football ,we all know how hard is this game and how skilled you are need to be, to be the best , also the toxicity is a big part of the game sometimes its funny sometimes its not but its not censored in CSGO , you can be who you really are without being banned for life like in Valorant . We all love that one Russian\Albenian\Polish\Turkish guy that shout all the game trough is 2$ mic like monkey that's CSGO , thats the vibe of CSGO , you can be who you really are in real life without people judging you or being banned we are all welcomed in CSGO , its like coming back home . Thats why the crowd is wild , cause nobody restrain it. CSGO THE BEST FPS GAME EVER CREATED . Thank you Valve and dont change it ever.
i agree, but these theres some crowds in vlr that go abusolute crazy, like VCT lock in in brazil, whenever there was a brazilian team playing it was a different atmophesre to the crowd
Very late to this video but theres only been like 3.5 international tournaments with a crowd in val. (The half is masters Copenhagen where im pretty sure there were still heavy restrictions as to how many people could attend, and they only had crowds for like the last 4 matches)
for valorant you need to see for the kc or brazilian crowd to have really good reaction and ambiance but still its not as big and popular as csgo crowd but they still are solid
I like the fact that the CSGO crowd just makes it so emotional whenever someone does a clutch or dies.
The valor ant crowd on the other hand is like watching a piano concert
The guy in the video said it perfectly. In Valorant, if you are in a clutch situation, you either have an advantage or a disadvantage depending on your agent. That is not taking any individual mechanics and skills into account. In CS, if you wanna win a clutch, you're on your own and that's why every play is so memorable and gets the crowd going.
@@sh1ro9 well said, i dont play valo and this gives me a good understanding of the game
@@sh1ro9 this is bullshit lol. Usually in clutch situations, util will be spent.
@@UOHCUNY wtf are you talking about?? Did you even understand what I meant? Util is always gonna be used but agents have different utils and some are better and worse depending on the match up. Are you saying agent advantage doesn't exit during clutch moments in Valorant? For a post-plant retake 1vX scenario, is Reyna or say, util heavy agent like Viper or Brimstone, which is gonna be easier?
@@sh1ro9 read my comment again. Barring post plant mollies, there are no advantages of agents in a 1v1. Game doesn't have passive abilities aside from Jett glide
To be fair, Japan crowds are like that, no matter what game or event is happening. They are disciplined to show their suppodr by just clapping and avoiding howls or any loud noises like whistling. It might look like the crowd felt no hype, but it's just how they are disciplined to do.
Also to be fair, how many chances has valorant had to have crowds. CS has history but valorant is new. Plus pandemic ig.
But even then it’s not wrong that abilities kill some level of skill expression.
also you have to remember this was in December of last year when the Japanese gov did not allow for cheering until early this year. I was living in Japan at the time, boy, just getting a public event going was difficult.
tbf there should be more NA or EU crowd reaction video for valorant
Clearly hasn't watched japanese baseball games.
Stop with the “disciplined” Japanese 💀 they r just conservative and not outgoing not cuz they r disciplined
The fact that CSGO crowd reaction shows up when searching for Valorant says it all really😂
You do realize that valorant is a much newer game and the fact that we are just coming out of covid restrictions. They barely started letting people into the event this year.
@@Artugioo dude you talk like the coov's still going on for valorant. Those crowd reactions shown for cs are the most recent ones. Don't tell us that valorant hasn't had any major tournaments during the past two years? If anything, the crowd should be more hyped to finally attend these events and pour their passion for these games and show up cs if they really are crazy addicted to valorant. And don't tell me that valorant hasn't had the time to grow. Valorant people like to brag that it's one of the biggest/fastest growing/most non-tournament views on twitch
@@ark7395 anyone can take clips out of context, the best thing csgo has going for it its better organized tournaments and more developed fanbases. Taking clips out of context to make one game look worse is just gonna make you look a fool and take any argument out of your best point in this idiotic debate on which game is better. just take any clip out of louds games in Brazil and you will have a more hype crowd then the Tokyo one, but comparing a Japanese crowd which does not have a culture of screaming alot or standing out of the masses to a French one which has a culture influenced by football fans and trying to make a serious point out of it is just idiocy.
also more context:
Final of the last csgo major with a 2 french players on a homecrowd ending the legacy of a game that is more then a decade old building storylines compared to 2 clips of a japanese regional league out of a groupstage of a qualifier to a major.
@@ark7395 you just said it, its still GROWING but not grown that it's CSGO level.
@@ark7395 As of now, valorant has only had 2 events with an actual big crowd.
Valorant is legit a game that feels like a game meanwhile CS feels like an actual sport, I think this is a better way to put it rather than the Cassidy effect
not a sport
@@sweethart6605 Did I say it is? Also according to the definition it is a sport, maybe not an official one
@@sweethart6605 what is blud talking about 🗣🗣🗣
I'd rather have unpredictable Mind + Mech games. Than one that's mental factor is Macro-only.
Bro you graduated from onlyfans ?
For the valorant clip of ZETA, the Japan crowd has a cultural difference with western crowd, they will not yell and scream or make noise through their mouth. It would be unfair to use that clip to compare but honestly csgo is way better than valorant in most of the aspects .
have you ever been to an idol concert ? they make all types of noise with their mouths
hacker ? all aspects ? lmao , rank aspect?
@@masterb0ssbro doesn't know how to read lmfao
@@masterb0ss I appreciate you sharing your thought by replying me. Yes, there are so many hackers in cs. I, myself play in the region with most hackers I believe but it’s just better than having smurfs everywhere ruining other’s experience creating unbalanced skill differences. In cs, you can just ask the enemy team to kick the hacker, some cannot because the hack is so ridiculous they can only team kill the hacker. For valorant, smurfs will not be banned and even they now have the new rank system to counter smurfs, they are still everywhere. You can say it’s easier to beat a Smurf than a hacker but hackers resist in every game bro. I guess I don’t really need to tell everyone who hasn’t played valorant how toxic and immature ranked players behave in valorant. I have been playin it since the first day, I believe I know more than enough. Just don’t wanna make a list explaining everything because that would be the creator’s job. Anyway, I appreciate you sharing your opinion here with everybody.
Eh I've seen csgo events in china that generate a lot of noise but still you can tell it isn't a western event because the noise isn't crazy for a csgo event.
bro clipped the first ever crowd and expected it to be like csgo
First ever crowd..😂😂 then why does he have multiple crowd scene in Valorant tornament?
@@ohmyoni-chan your name explains it all
@@sk-xg7re your profile explains it all toxic S0mple fan
@@ohmyoni-chan 1st and 2nd ever crowd vs 10 years of crowds
@@yellowedd thats how you should do it
CSGO crowds are nuts. I remember watching the Malta major back in the day and the crowds were so loud it was interrupting play. The players couldn't hear the game in their headsets.
one games scene is 22 years old vs the other being like 2 years old... comparing them doesn't even make any sense💀
I think csgo crowd is the best in e-sport generally
Still sad asf
Even csgo first ever major clears Valo crowds
It's just hard to get hype over Valorant imo
Tf does that mean bro those crowds are beyond justifications lmao that shit looked like a formal job meeting
look up a clip from Valorant's LOCK//IN tournament when a brazilian team like LOUD or FURIA is playing. that is probably the most hype i've seen valorant crowds
thats just brazillians being hype on their own. its an outlier
Just Brazil things. Better comparison would be the istanbul crowd
@@superzzo6765 but he literally compared the best crowd from valorant on his opinion(japan) to the ESL Rio Major crowd at Brazil
Half the reason is riot kept the crowds small originally for covid, but did so for so long, the culture of attending in person is just kind of missing. The brazil crowd was great for the brazilian teams tho, apparently lol
11 years game vs 3 years game
If you argue that time has made csgo more popular, than you can also argue the opposite, you wouldn’t know that maybe there was a time csgo became less popular as time went on, you arguing that because csgo has been out longer it should have a better crowd but that would mean the opposite could also be true
as a CS main this is an unfair comparison imo, a game with a decade of history vs a game that just turned 3 years old with not many events, Japanese crowds are very reserve as well.
You're the most logical out of them all. I love the Boston Major to death but it's so unfair to compare to Valorant that was birthed in COVID, had significantly less time to establish a scene, and was referenced for their Major in Japan, the country with the most polite and reserved culture. If anything, the fact they got this far this fast and pulled off what they had so soon is remarkable.
yeah super biased. valorant started right at the start of the pandemic and riot really does not host as many LANs as CS does, especially since it's only been possible for them to host them for like barely 1 1/2 years now
2 plus decades...
talking specifically about GO@@wuhtevah3840
@@RaeneYT Also the plays created in valorant are more superior than csgo. Valorant requires more innovation which is lacked in csgo
Guy showed JAPAN bruh. Why not the Brazilian crowd ?
You mean the crowd left when fnatic won ?? 😂😂
@@uresfffff222 well atleast they are very energetic when supporting LOUD.
Talk to CSGO Major Rio....loudest crowd in history
Intentional.
@@apeverell0101 But the Rio major crowd is louder than the Brazil lock-in crowd
Favorite crowd is definitely the VP vs. Astralis Clash for Cash rematch in 2017 that event was amazing!
TBF, Japanese crowds, even korean crowds tend to be more quiet until the end. Even in concerts or boxing / mma, the crowds arent rowdy like western countries. I grew up playing cs 1.6 all my life and a little cs go, been playing valorant for 2 years now. Skills are flashy and mechanically cs is harder, but with valorant you have to think more because of these skills, and there are more angles to check / hide / play than cs in my opinion, and valorant abilities actually takes skills to use properly. That being said, i do think the valorant crowd is more of the awkward introverted side compared to cs.
unfortunately in all VCT (valorant's majors) streams the crowd noise is always suppressed, you can hear the full noise of the crowd on some of the in-person costreamer's streams. I noticed this when on the official VCT stream the crowd sounded quiet while on Tarik's stream you could barely hear him speak over the crowd during VCT Lock In
pretty sure the same is the case for cs:go
@@fishtail2616CSGO has bigger stadium and fanbase
@@fishtail2616kinda, they treat it like UFC does, they have crowd sound lowered until they manually raise it to make it more hype
The thing is, that the stadiums for the current Kick off events (besides Pacific as always) are super small as well. The Americas kick off looks like a internet Caffè while pacific has a pretty bug stadium. It's weird to me
I mean too be fair to valorant, japanese crowds are never crazy hype like Europe or brazil crowds. Its mainly because of their culture's calm nature that they're known for.
And for Valorant there was also Covid rules the Japanese crowds had to follow.
You definitely do not watch Japanese football or Japanese baseball
These weebs think they know everything about japan and how disciplined they are, ever heard of JDM or yakuza
@@drinkwoter What does Yakuza and JDM have to do with the general public Japanese culture💀
bro thinks he made a point@@drinkwoter
Let's gooo Lerco finally got reacted by Ohne!!!! LET'S GO!!
CS has had decades to develop their history and fans. Valorant has only had 3 years and only one with crowds due to the global pandemic. Comparing modern Valorant to modern CS simply isn't fair, but regardless, both are doing just fine.
this is 100% what i was thinking, i will now be attending every Valorant tourney with a trumpet and my country flag on my back. time to make these crowds so much more entertaining
LAN tournaments also started last year in Copenhagen, so literally not even a full year as passed by for Valorant LAN tournies
I'm a valorant player tbh i don't get the comparison. Like for one valorant has a goddamn story and the skill of it's agents are explainable. just because it is fps it doesn't mean generally that it is the same with cs:go, if there's one that should be compared with cs:go it is crossfire, every time I see any cs:go going "valorant sucks because of skills cs:go better" I'm like dude it's meant to be like that it's even the reason some cs:go pros decided to fcking switch.
Exactly. Csgo has like over 20 years worth of fanbase. The comparison lacks. And im a 100% CSGO fan but one day it will be like that in valorant events aswell.
@@Crypted542csgo pros switch because they could find an opportunity to win on valorant tournaments when it came out.
other reason is because they were just not too skilled enough to face against the top best team and players.
and it has been a few months since cs2 announcement, and considerable amount of former csgo pros are returning.
the switch is switching back.
I was at VCT LOCK//IN final in São Paulo. The crowd obviously gets more intense just by being brazil other than europe, u know? But I feel that even by this factor, the crowd could get more intense. Im a shy guy, but when it comes to competitive sports, I support like a true fanatic, to Man. United, to BR Valorant teams, to my college team matches and etc. And I felt that the ppl around me was just shy to get the fucking ass off the chair and scream for their team. I was crazy screaming for LOUD at each good round and I asked myself: am I over reacting, am I the crazy guy right there or these people just never got to a stadium before? like ppl, cmon stand up and support our team. You can see me standing up and screming bad words after a decisive point for LOUD in the stream VOD xD
and yeah, BTW, the auctor of the video could just search more for valorant crowds other than just typing in the youtube search bar for... valorant crowds
and, nAAAh, that cassidy effect its not really whats going on, Valorant still has some true abilities to show off and get the crowd hyped. More than CS? of course not, but still has.
IEM Rio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VCT são paulo
@@lucaspinheiro8617 sim, né?
crazy to think of a BR crowd not going nuts at an esports event
Also worth mentioning that the reason Valo has way less memorable reaction moments as of now is because when the Val Esports scene first started it was during COVID, so we're only now getting big LAN tournaments, meanwhile CS has had them for over a decade.
yeah but this is csgo channel and the guy in this video is the most blind folded person ever
Fun fact, every CS tournament sounds like that. I will admit, Valorant crowds do have some loud moments, but not nearly as many. (Source: I’ve been to both)
@@Chaosgremlin69420Quick info: Don't count JP crowds that is comparing the speed of a human versus a Jett. Sooo that don't work
@@ShadowNeverDie And? The amount of passion in every CS LAN crowd is audible, Val crowds can occasionally get loud, but it is a faceless kind of loud.
This is dumb. Crowds are just players who decided to show up. And as wel all know, CSGO players > Valorant players. Therefore, CSGO crowds > Valorant crowds.
valorant really lives rent free in the typical csgo fan with the elitist mindset huh?🙄
@@Seeeaaan CS is still better. And I play both games
@@jswitch3005 sure that's your opinion. You're free to like whatever game u want.
@@Seeeaaan CS will always be better
@@Seeeaaan Objectively
i like how this is 9:11 minutes long
I've been playing cs since 1.1 or 1.2 and I've never played valorant but you can't compare a Japanese crowd to a Brazilian crowd, with the utmost respect to both cultures and countries, you're comparing the most well mannered, well behaved public to the most passionate and party happy people. Even if you compare the crowds in the same sport, like football or f1, the Japanese are going to be enthusiastic but reserved and the Brazilians will be energetic and going crazy. The other valorant crowd looks like what a crowd at a tournament of 1.6 or GO would look like 10 to 15 years ago, when the scene started to move away from totally wild Lans to a more professional, legitimate E-sport. Plus the crowd was smaller, you get a small cs event and the crowd will be tame too, ie. when they play in Malta, where between 8 and 50 ppl show up for normal games and the final pulls in 200.
Every second person in valorant crowd is holding back trying not to say "Ara Ara", or trying not to meow by accident. That's why they are so silent.
Valorant crowds clapping with baloon, looked like a Worm moving fast
6:46
Bro even by CS:GO standards, this clip of a fast paced takedown with a sniper, not even the BEAST sniper, is actually pretty fuckin hype. It was slick af
The fact that the crowd was still pretty quiet over it is crazy 💀Aintnoway
Next crowd we gon see everyone is gonna be snapping their fingers like a Poetry Recital, it'd at least be better than the clapping sticks though 😆
its easier to headshot in valorant
@@da-cd3pi So what? Clip was pretty flashy and a good showing of skill nonetheless. The casters were hyped, why wasn't the crowd?
@@PixaXCVI idk what you are expecting, L game = L crowd
@@alextinica7914 I love shitting on Valorant as much as the next guy but a skilled player is a skilled player. Also, half of the Valorant crowd were probably part of a CSGO crowd before.
They were in Japan, it was a policy that they couldn't scream because of COVID
That's why I love being Brazilian, here our fans are always absurd when there are Brazilians playing, we always have a huge and beautiful party to watch, whatever sport it is...
Why are we all overlooking the two main reasons? I dont Get it.
1: Csgo tournaments, players and teams have competed for years, and people have been watching for a long time.
2: Csgo tournaments literally serve alcohol, and 50% of the people hyping are drunk off their asses
Free alcohol and can screaming in public to cheer my favorite team or player? Count me in
its not like valorant crowds are banned to do so or i dont think that it is. Also Its been 3 years since valorant release if it cant stay relevant with people it wont last long
@@B4SS1L1SK bro there were no crowds until 1 year ago, and also YES they are definitely not allowed to drink alcohol in the venue. this is riot we are talking about
@@Vietnam_Gigachad I agree, i like csgo better than valorant anyways i just dont think its fair what theyre saying
@@erikhjulstad7136 ok but we are comparing the game to cs which is already big enough so no fps will reach cs level of crowd anyway
The Fnatic vs Loud cloud was probably the best Valorant croud
6 screens actually make sense. It's all about crowd distance, if you're far back, you naturally align your vision with the biggest screen since it's bigger and higher up, lines up perfectly. Vise versa, the closer you are the smaller and lower the screen is so you won't break your neck looking up
There's no differences between CSGO crowd and Football crowd,both of them got emotional spirit
the crazy abilities and the sensory overload causes dopamine levels to go to a new peak and when the basic stuff happens like someone getting a kill, even though you may receive a dopamine hit, you will be nowhere near that peak
Lmao you sound so old saying that
you must see the csgo Rio major crowd, those guys are insane
Bro saw the least one and said oh yeah this is all valorants player
when the brazillians made some noise on the vct there, some people called that disrespectful
playing tank in a fps is no flex bro u couldnt torture that information out of me😂
Look at the Brazilian CSGO crowd, it's insane
It because people who watches valorant are actually normal people. They’re not hardcore gamers and they just enjoy the game. I know csgo crowd is wild but you know those people ain’t no normal 💀
normal???? bro have you seen val players 💀💀
@@ecoooooooooo Bro the most normal gamers you'll see is from valorant. they're more like the people who see actualy goes outside. league and cs them people are built different
@@seancanja1518 no way you just said valorant players go outside 💀
csgo crowds already old and have their own lives and families, you are a virgin playing inferior cartoon game. Even washed up csgo players move there to actually win something
Its funny how Japan is the most hype Valorant crowd, when they put so much afford and value
on constantly being humble and respectful, trying not to bother others. And i get what the other
guy said. Valorant is like a michael bay movie. You need calm before the storm in a way.
Honestly most of it is just that CS:GO is super easy to understand. It’s hard to tell if something is impressive in Valorant because of all those flashy abilities. When played well each character is going to look completely different.
In CS we know EXACTLY what impressive gameplay looks like and it makes it way more easy to get excited because every single person in the crowd knows exactly what they’re looking at.
i think maybe the age of the game plays a role cause cs has existed so long many people have more of an emotional connection to the game
I will say Japanese crowds are supposed to be very polite even if they feel excited, so someone can be performing a hype song and the Japanese crowd will just sit and watch
Dota2 and CSGO literally have the craziest crowd
I've been lucky enough to attend a game for at least one of all the major sports in America. CS crowds aren't as loud just because of the difference in attendance but man is everyone in that building passionate and screaming their head off.
I literally got into csgo because I was watching a streamer watch a tournament. It was so hype and I loved every second of it. I was glued to my screen like usually I have shit on second monitor but watching it I put it on main screen with no gaming nothing just stream.
Tarik forgot that he had an entire stadium in PGL 2018 standing on their feet
Lots of valorant majors are in Asia and they are pretty tame compared to in EU or NA
csgo and fighting games, the best esports to watch out of all of them
Best is when they show the local crowd
I loved the crowds when the old Virtus Pro with Polish players was playing. Legit after every single kill, the polish fans were cheering like they are gonna destroy the whole building.
I died when he said "best hooker EU" 😂
Lol the crowd at the Halo championship which was pretty small by comparison was still crazy loud
the thing is its also about the teams, the most hype team was paper rex, they always did something goofy they always played goofy stuff like that, but every other team just walks on stage, pose and plays, but for some reason teams like paper rex or sentinals when they had dapr, always gets hated on
IEM Melbourne's crowd for not even a big/major event, was so crazy compared to the best valorant reaction lol
I like both games and i even prefer valorant but the crowd is sad cause of the exact reason the man said, all the ults are what are hype
valorant crowd = NPC
lol Elon Musk went to a valorant major
0:10 Litrelly me when my team gets a kill
i think the csgo crowd cares for there game way more than the valo crowd
Actually in Turkey Valorant tournaments are sick. When someone kill other they literally go crazy.
As a Valorant player that has been playing the game since it first came out, I genuinely prefer to attend a csgo/cs2 tournement than a Valorant tournment, althought the Valorant crowds better nowadays, CS just feels like im watching football, while i prefer the mecanics from valorant, CS is just beautiful to watch, thank god im going to the Blast open Spring finals
in my opinion of why the crowds are so different is the age of CS, people are much more passionate and most of them are not from the US which means they probably are fans of Football and those people are the best for crowds. Like, look at VCT Lock/in Sao Paulo the Brazilians were great crowd
Cs have better crowd but these clips are cherry picked
Na crowd is also great don’t forget Boston , Atlanta and Columbus were one of greatest majors of all time.
19+ years vs 3 years .
Bro this guy is so happy lmao….., one game has developed a fanbase for liek 30 years
cant wait for the people who use the thunder sticks to find out clapping is louder
Europeans are wired for football and Americans for american football and baseball. if my sports were that boring I'd probably be a boring fan too
its like comparing football with handball, in football a 1:0 or a 0:0 are pretty common. Goals in general happen rarely but if they happen, the Crowd is going Wild.
While in Handball there are way more goals happening, so the crowd is used to having like 40 goals in a single game, and ofc they dont react very crazy on every single goal and celebrate it like they do in football.
csgo W as usual
Wait until they realise that it's Just a french crowd vs non french crowd issue
Just recently I saw an out of this world ace from TS Jremy in Valorant, if that was with a live crowd, I think the stadium would've erupted. Also, you have to take into consideration the what kind of event that is? Which country the event was held? Which team was playing? Or, who's gameplay was showcased on that big screen? A lot of factors has to be taken into consideration if we're going to judge crowd reaction. I don't understand why people has to put drama between 2 games, can't they coexist together without the fanbase going for each other's throat?
The thing is though the CS crowd is *always* like this, regardless of venue, event, team, etc.
@@PIVfirestarkproducon show me the cs crowd in Japan
It’s just csgo fans who are always insecure, always comparing Valorant to their game while Valorant fan base don’t even care or know what csgo is
@@PIVfirestarkproducon My point exactly.
it’s pretty simple why csgo has better crowds, the games just been out longer and has a larger more dedicated fan base. compare that with valorant which only came out on 2020. It’s the same with any type of entertainment. It’s actually pretty impressive that valorant already has crowds this big. give val a couple years and maybe you’ll have the crowd going into stripper mode after a killjoy turret is placed down.
Well that's not really fair because even the old csgo crowds were pretty good and you shouldn't really count the time but more the popularity and valorant is pretty popular and a decent game too.
@@trisfaleelI would argue time plays a heavy part for popularity and therefore crowds. How would a game that is only be 3 years old be have the same level of dedication and expressiveness as one that’s been 11. Not to mention the fan base of csgo are generally more older. crowds have been very more expressive about it since they been involved in the competitive scene for longer.
@@trisfaleel old csgo crows were pretty good because there was no other game that has such a big fanbase, csgo basically made the fps shooter genre in game tournaments explode. csgo has had way more time and way more of an advantage due to its simplicity. csgo portrays something that could and almost has happened in real life, while valorant is completely made up, which makes it harder to both develop and come up with. CSGO has had more time to grow its crowd and popularity, and that's just how it is
@@toiletpaper3487 lol clearly you are young here. This sounds like cope more than anything. Time really doesnt matter, I've been to early LAN of csgo, not even a major, its still hype af. The crowds are just that good. I've been to valorant champion once in Istanbul, its not even as good.
we just gonna ignore this 1:24💀
no way people are comparing CSGO with valo........u guys r seasonal gamer for a reason. CSGO is a legend .
If you have ever been to a concert in Japan, you know the type of people that go to Valorant events. They are silent. During a Japanese concert, 99% of the time you won't hear a singular word from the crowd. It feels the same with Val. Though in Japan it is pure respect. It feels the same way for Valorant... Besides NA kick-off currently where people just scream the exact position of the last player standing on a Team. Good thing you can't hear it as a player
as a valorant player(pls don't flame me I started playing it during covid, did touch CS cause I don't want to deal with hackers or third party servers)
the problem with valorant and crowd reactions is that valorant is less mechanically difficult, but more strategically difficult(you have to consider the agents you choose and the agents on the enemy team)
and all the flashy things are abilities meant to set up a kill, but the kill itself is not flashy, the setting up part(like the 5:54 entry) is flashy, but it's just the set up to a potentially good play, so no one wants to cheer just yet, but when the play works out, it just doesn't have the same hype anymore since the flashy part is over like 10 seconds ago
comparing to CS, where a good play will lead to kills a lot quicker, and the hype has not died down yet
of course there's the culture around CS since it's been around longer, but that's hard to put into tangible variables in terms of crowd reacitons
and valorant is less emotional. Even the strict rules for chatting in the game restrict emotions and kill the vibe to some point.
and they get mad at brazilian crowds for being more like cs
I think a lot of the crowd culture evolves over time. Valorant hasn't had a crowd for a full event until like 6 months ago, first crowd was at Masters Copenhagen. And so the crowd culture hasn't really been made. Masters Tokyo the event going on right now has an amazing crowd but still it doesn't compare to CSGO yet, because again, that crowd 1 doesn't have a Japanese team to cheer for and 2 because it hasn't had a chance to evolve yet. CSGO has had crowds for so long, and so that culture has been made. The clouted teams don't really exist in Valorant, so for example, Sentinels are the most famous org in Valorant. Anyone from anywhere will support Sentinels because they are sentinels. In CS there is so many teams to cheer for, Faze, Vitality, Heroic. Another thing is, Valorant grew in the covid era, so event also just didn't really have the ability to shout. If you look at the regional league crowds they are very hype now. The The culture 1 hasn't been evolved yet and 2 its just not as global as CS. But, I am a kinda biased Valorant player.
Brazil crowd was the best in valorant
I love seeing his chat seethe and these comments cry, both sides are downs lmfao
Its because the same people in eu who play cs, are in the soccer crowds
you should do this again after val master tokyo, japan crowds at this time still had mask mandates and they aren't allowed to shout or cheer inside closed venues, that has been lifted at the start of 2023
Speaking as an OW player, it feels really weird to hear people say that Valorant is a fast/action-packed/ADD game. OW is the game for 2-second attention spans and we know it. Valorant feels like so slow in comparison just because action is so spread out. As to the "Cassidy effect," we find moments like that interesting because normally the moment someone uses high noon, everyone is somehow behind a wall and also you just die because you have to stand still, so seeing more than a single high noon elim is actually kinda wild.
It's fine to have crazy moments when all of your moments are at least a little bit crazy.
Ngl, i think if you want to get the full espors experience, watch some of the most hype tournaments in csgo. I lost my shit when Cloud 9 won 2018 Boston Eleague tournament.
Context: from what my memory can tell this was the first time Competitive North America won something as big as this tournament. Cloud 9 were not just the underdogs, they were expected to loose by a lot of people and be one of the first to be kicked out. Only then to say "hold my beer" as they went and win the entire tournament. Mind you this is not just an NA thing, Every major team that could qualify was there. It had one of the longest and nail biting grand finals as they kept going into overtime as both FaZe and Cloud 9 refused to give up. With the entire crowd chanting
"SEND THEM HOME!!" Also other streamers were tuning in while they were streaming because of how big of a moment this was for NA csgo
3yrs old game vs 20yrs old game
Nice comparison
Valorant crown is like british audience watching cricket, clap then silence.
Going to Iem cologne last year was so amazing
Important thing to note is that FGC crowds go hard on fights
this guy cant live with the fact that valorant is way better than cs. He is naggin the valorant crowds in random events 💀💀. This man looks more like a fan than a real valorant fan wth
The commentators are hyped for the crowed
i think it is just the fact that Valorant is a new game (came out 2021) and the E-sports scene is just not so old that the crowd is not as big as the ones in CSGO
Valorant crowds are just ppl watching a HS dance recital
I want to see one where CS:GO and League of Legends crowds are compared
Japanese casters indeed the best valorant caster out there
Spanish caster are also very good
Its not that hard to understand why CSGO crowd is wild .... Cause CSGO its the equivalent of football in FPS Games , you cant reinvent football ,we all know how hard is this game and how skilled you are need to be, to be the best , also the toxicity is a big part of the game sometimes its funny sometimes its not but its not censored in CSGO , you can be who you really are without being banned for life like in Valorant . We all love that one Russian\Albenian\Polish\Turkish guy that shout all the game trough is 2$ mic like monkey that's CSGO , thats the vibe of CSGO , you can be who you really are in real life without people judging you or being banned we are all welcomed in CSGO , its like coming back home . Thats why the crowd is wild , cause nobody restrain it.
CSGO THE BEST FPS GAME EVER CREATED . Thank you Valve and dont change it ever.
reason why Val crowds are less rowdy is the crowd is full of 15-16 year olds, CS has the older alcoholic gambler crowd AKA the fun people to be around
i agree, but these theres some crowds in vlr that go abusolute crazy, like VCT lock in in brazil, whenever there was a brazilian team playing it was a different atmophesre to the crowd
Ninguém vai torcer pra time gringo aqui no Brasil, igual vocês que também não torce pro times brasileiros 😅
CSGO Crowd : 🔊🔊🔊🔊
Valorant Crowd : 🔊
CoD Crowd :
R6 Crowds are the same way as of late
Brazilians are great
Very late to this video but theres only been like 3.5 international tournaments with a crowd in val. (The half is masters Copenhagen where im pretty sure there were still heavy restrictions as to how many people could attend, and they only had crowds for like the last 4 matches)
for valorant you need to see for the kc or brazilian crowd to have really good reaction and ambiance but still its not as big and popular as csgo crowd but they still are solid