As an owner of a Streamline 0.22, in walnut, I love the trigger and shots per fill. One thing to note is that FX only offers a 3 year warranty, while Air-Arms is lifetime. That, combined with the fully adjustable stock, would be a hard thing to beat. The S510 may be my next standard rifle.
Being an owner of an Air Arms S510 R Ultimate Sporter, I can safely say that I’ve either been really unlucky or Air Arms quality has taken a recent nose dive. My brand new S510 lasted 10 days before the first 4 pellets on every magazine fell well below my targets. The fifth hitting the bullseye. So, back to Air Arms it went… 3 weeks later it comes back and accuracy has been restored…. BUT during the “repair” the dovetail was damaged. This time I went back to the gun shop who replaced my S510R action with another, (straight out of the box) which had a faulty trigger and was way down on power. Ok lets try another one, again straight out of the box. This one had scratches on the moderator, missing paint on the trigger and cocking lever, and uneven machining on the trigger guard. So I went home with my “repaired, damaged gun”. Air Arms have said that they will replace the action but will need to receive mine first - there is another 3 week wait… I’m now preparing the gun to be sent back for replacement and I’ve now noticed that its leaking air. Lots of air. Left unused for 7 days it lost 125 bar of charge. Don’t get me wrong, when the S510R actually works properly it performs well and has superb handling. So thank you guys for posting this video. The FX might be a worthy replacement
Dream line synthetic in 1.77 straight from the box light manoeuvrable,loves air arms Diablos ,jsbs deadly accurate. All weather stock ,deadly accurate . On target at 100 metres . Interchangeable barrels a lot lighter easier to use. Two really well constructed magazines excellent trigger and very well engineered block. FX everyday for me .
If the gun is to used for hunting in the woods the barrel band on the AA is a big plus ahead of the FX and I hope that FX will offer a barrel support option for the Dreamline. There is already at least one third party company offering a barrel support for the Dreamline which appears to do the job but is not very nice looking.
It needs a barrel support. My point of impact changes dramatically with a moderator. You can see it weighing it down. It makes the barrel touch the air cylinder.
@@molecatcher3383 Hey I just slipped a o-ring over my air cylinder. now the barrel rests on the oring so it doesn't bounce against the air cylinder when I am walking, and my point of impact doesn't change with a moderator. I should have thought of it sooner.
I have an S-510 ultimate Sporter, .25. The stock won't break if you hit a bear. I Love it. Have a thumbhole stock too. Have a crown and an impact too. They are all needle threaders.
Thanks guys. Great information. I wish we could see reviews after 5,000 shots.....And I know everyone is going to start crying, but I will say it anyway. The Umarex Gauntlet is damn close, or exceeds in some categories for $299.......
My 2015 versions of the Sporter was a regular stock s 510. I added the ultimate stock, and a Neil Clague moderator. Very quiet. I also have Huggetts, and Donny Fl. my old impact is a superior field rifle. The AA stock is very fine on the bench. my crown with the .25 slug barrel is wickedly accurate at 150 yards. I did it a crow at 137 yards with the AA using a atn x-sight, first shot. using the computer. I just want all of the high end rifles and pistols. The AA with the thumbhole stock, and a sling is light, and very nice. had the stock clear coated, so it's a bit tougher forscratches.
I call it a draw on all counts. For the accuracy you would need to have each shooter shoot both guns and compare results. Where power and consistency are concerned 2 ftlb isn't a significant difference, and I guarantee the Dreamline would be just as if not more consistent after a full break-in period. Shot count is also important, especially for those who use their gun for hunting small game. Personally I would absolutely love to have either one in my collection.
Nice video guys, but you should have included the Daystate Huntsman Regal XL it would have taken every category. British build quality lol. All the best from the UK.
Enjoy watching you two battle it out. Tough call, but I would have to go with the Dream-Classic as FX USA is 30 minutes from my front door! LOL Look forward to these battles in the future!
Nicely done gentleman.... I think we have to give that battle the AA ... This isn't a slight on FX rather a hearty "ata boy" to AA for making a really nice gun. See you guys in the FB Airgun Benchrest Channel.
Glad you guys did this head-to head! I've been considering both of these as my next purchase, and this helped me a lot. QUIET is as important to me as much as any other considerations (which are ALL excellent!), so unless you have found a moderator that will bring the dB of the S510 down to that of the Dreamline, I'm pretty sure the FX is going to be my next gun. I'll be in touch!
I don't take too much notice of out-of-the-box comparisons. Default factory settings vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Given the tune-ability of the Dreamline, I would suggest that it is easily capable of exceeding or at least matching the performance of the S510.
I would like to see the same guy on the trigger for both guns. You each get to do a string on each gun. One trigger man may be just a little better than the other.....
the standard lw barrel has but one use pellets. and for every different twist rate you have to change the barrel. but with the liners that is a 2 to 5 miunete chage were a barrel change is 20 plus. they are both made to exacting tolerances. but for my experiences i would go with fx. more choices ,more additions, more upgrades. better in quality in my mind and way of thinking, but thats what makes it great everyone has there own way of thinking
Excellent video. I am a true FX fan but that Air Arms is beautiful. It will definitely be on my airgun wish list. Also, you all have a certain chemistry that works very well together on video. Looking forward to seeing many more.
So here's the question, and possibly one thing missing from this test. You guys went over some things that were important but, with everyone who watches this channel also being subscribed to Matt dubber and the other crew down in South Africa, we want to know whether or not these rifles will shoot slugs right out of the box. With the incredible new technology explosion of slugs being introduced, we are seeing people on the internet channels and forums shooting starlings and sparrows out to 200 yards and more, this is quickly going to leave all others in this high price category which only shoot pellets in the dust. I would never spend $2,000 + Honey rifle unless it is going to be used primarily if not exclusively for slugs. Will either of these shoot slugs, or does the FX dreamline come with a slug liner?
Great job guys! and the humor is getting better. Love these videos. One suggestion: The Head to Head videos needs to add a category. "Form to Function" Does the design, engineering, and materials meet the intended purpose. Sporter = Hunting ******THE FX is the TRUE WINNER.****** 1.) British beauty for $1499 is a target rifle, bragger, or wall decoration for hunting except in open terrain or fields. In wooded or heavy brush areas not good at all. Take my advise learned lesson. If an owner scratches it while hunting big price drop, anguish, and much agony. At current non sale prices the FX is available from $1079 in synthetic a "true hunter" to $1329 for pretty that's $170 to $420. 2.) While the British sell a great product but they have spent years perfecting a product because they have no 2nd AMENDMENT. So Air Arms and other European air rifles co. have served the hunting and target industry in Europe for years at 12 F.P.E. while we in the US have Air Rifles as a niche market. America air rifles would be a more superior product then they are now if they served the same purpose for as many years. So enough about the "British" HAHA! but you get the point 3.) True hunting air rifles will quickly be all going to slug barrels and ammo which FX is already supporting.
Super review 😁 extrem closed. My favorite ist the dreamline. Only the adjustable cheekpeace would be nice in the fx....price and value i go for the fx !
Just wondering about adjustability of the reg on the Dreamline. If reg is set for lower nuber does the shot count increase, and decrease if its set higher. Some reviews have commented that the power adjust on the air arms didn't really affect shot count.
Yes, the power adjuster on the S510 is a transfer port adjustment which doesn't affect shot count nearly as much as the regulator and hammer spring adjustment of the Dreamline. If you are shooting light pellets, you can back the power off on the Dreamline and get a lot of shots per fill. Not really possible on the AA.
A little tuning on that dreamline wouldn't hurt the standard deviation but shot count and tunablity was not mentioned that's a big deal to me. Anyway love your videos and my dreampup lol
Good video guys, two super nice rifles. But the air arms sported will be better if it was Mach with the royale 400. The price is almost the same. One thing I really don’t like about the s510 is the poor shots count. ONLY 26 shots per fill? For a 1500 dollars gun it’s way too poor. My opinion!!!
Matthew Hayslett I had the s510 carbine. That rifle always gives me 55 good shots. That’s why I didn’t believe this one only shots 26. Still it’s better Mach with the royale 400. Same price.
I would call it a draw, especially in category 1, the build quality & ergonomics. The trigger pull as well - nothing wrong with a 1 lb trigger and they're both adjustable. The accuracy? That 8-shot group on the Dreamline was pretty compelling. If I was in the market for one of these, I think I would get the Dreamline.
I have to agree w Brandon Matz. All and all its still depends on the $ numbers too. Also dreamline got 1 more advantage that's able to switch liner to different category.
That was a nice review but if you point out that the dream line gets more shots then the s510 the standard deviation would not be accurate. but with the extra shots the dream line is the ultimate winner. The standard deviation of the s510 will be much higher after making 60 shots. Plus the use of slugs in the dreamline would give a much higher bc and better grouping. so to me the modular upgrade is also a winner. The ability of the dreamline to add many many extras ,as were in the s510 is at its best and only has 25 shots.After upgrades to the dreamline with bottle adapter and other stuff it is hitting 100-110 shots slug barrel liner and 600 and 700mm barrels and liners. it to me is the best gun, More diverse ability to be able to be changed to suit the need and ability of the hunter or pester as needed. the s510 is stuck at 25 shots. Using the same 250 bar they both have FX shows it has a better ability to use the air given and give time after time better acuracy the the s510. but thats just my idea.
@@Monkeydad1969 very true plus if they could make there regulator as good as the fx it would be a true test. i like the fx and the airarms but i think it comes down to price also. very hard to decide so best thing to do is just buy both .
The air arms has barrel made from lothar walther thats why accuracy is awesome but the air arms doesnt came with regulators and smaller volume air cylinder, fx came with monoblock aluminium chamber, regulator but they lack in magazine design which still use spring rotary, the air tube is come from china vs steel blueing of england, for all fx little bit superior but my hands down at air arms
Good overall side by side comparison of the 2 rifles. However the breakdown of the comparison is still going to be up to the shooter. Stock shape is important but different shooters may like different things. For me I like a synthetic stock over wood, and the ability to use AR grips is a plus. As for the trigger, the weight of pull is good but the feel and break of the trigger is far more important. I have made (with an M16a2 and open sights) good shots out to 800m and its trigger was 7-8 pounds but was clean and crisp. My Precision AR now has a 4 pound trigger and breaks ultra crisp due to highly polished parts. Dropping the pull down on a trigger sub 1 pound is nice but is it clean. As for shot count, more is always better but those shots need to be consistent in accuracy and velocity. All in All I say the Dreamline leads the pack on overall use but out of the box its the individual shooter that can say who wins. Around here there are no Air Gun shops, or ranges dedicated to them. So getting hands on with one is impossible here.
Cara essas dus pcp a Air Arms S510 ultimate Sport e a FX Dreamline são lindas pra falar a verdade eu queria as duas mas sou apaixonado pela Air Arms e também pela FX são duas armas muito foda. Show de vídeo parabéns
I'm tossing up between these two. Both top performers. Calibre and stock interchangeability is not a decider for me and I already have a Daystate Regal Xl which is an excellent all day field carry rifle. Price difference ? .... maybe, but probably not. If I'm going to spend that sort of money I'll fund my preferences. The adjustability of the S510 XS stock is an important plus for me as I am putting a toe in the competition shooting pond. The Air Arms HFT500 single shot looks good too. May end up with both, ..... lol ! Often the way.
When will a review and accuracy test video for the new BROCOCK BANTAM SNIPER HP 25CAL , with the new polygonal barrel ? ? I here its one bad ass pcp and very accurate
Air Arms S510 is my vote ! Only because I hear the FX's are very pellet picky, and I'd rather shoot an airgun that shoots most pellets well. Either way, I'm a Gauntlet price range guy.
Great video guys... informative and funny... great combo. I have to say , though... both are great guns, but the power difference with the lower shot count would not sway me, and the accuracy was very close... I think I would lean towards the dreamline.
Shot count is a very very important factor for those who want to hunt with a PCP. Or shoot for a long period of time. Who wants to be tethered to a bottle or compressor when shooting. Its one major reason I stick with powder burners or Co2 based air guns.
Ohhh boy, you guys must be exhausted! Where do I send the fresh apple pie?....another tough day at the office! (edit)...And ohh, who won that battle? You both did, for having such great freakin' jobs!
@@Monkeydad1969..I use to think the same thing. Until I started paying taxes in the 70's. Now WE have people like Sanders, AOC and other radical muslims in the senate. I refuse to call this gawd forsaken big ball we occupy 'real world'..no matter how hard I try and hide.
Very close I like the dreamline better... The dreamline can be improved upon and those smooth twist barrels need to have break in. time. but the thing i like the most about the AA S510 is the power and consistency.... so I probably would buy the AA S510 over the FX Dreamline.... seems to be the over all better gun....??? maybe.
You forgot to mention that the AA has an included built-in rail under the stock sitting flush within the stock. That’s about the only thing that the AA has on the FX. FX all the way for me:)
nice video , tnx ! true , the Air Arms barks a bit more , but more because of his vented shroud , the trigger , well its more a hunting trigger to me , replace it by a Rowan match trigger . for the rest , Air Arms are built like tanks , never let you down and i have 3 of them ;) about the other brand , well , i have 2 of them , but only one working , the second is waiting more than a month for parts :( , so my winner is Air Arms too ;)
I could buy either right now for about the same price. The only difference is the stock on the AA is a thumb hole stock and not the shorter stock. The dream line is priced $250 more . Neither one comes with a silencer. HUM the AA is a .22 and the Dreamliner is a .25. Anyone have a comment???? Around Bend Oregon out !
I think the Dreamline would have won the accuracy all things being equal. This was a match of shooting skills as much as rifle accuracy. It was very close though.
Sorry ! cost should play heavily in this ! At the massive cost over the other most of us who dont have lots of money to throw away would say the fx is the winner , And those of us who cant afford more than a hand pump would say the same also .
I'd easily take the Dreamliner over the Air Arms. It all comes down to priorities. Quieter, super light and consistent trigger with over 2x the number of shots. Accuracy and FPE were virtually the same.
As an owner of a Streamline 0.22, in walnut, I love the trigger and shots per fill. One thing to note is that FX only offers a 3 year warranty, while Air-Arms is lifetime. That, combined with the fully adjustable stock, would be a hard thing to beat. The S510 may be my next standard rifle.
Good point on the warranty.
Being an owner of an Air Arms S510 R Ultimate Sporter, I can safely say that I’ve either been really unlucky or Air Arms quality has taken a recent nose dive.
My brand new S510 lasted 10 days before the first 4 pellets on every magazine fell well below my targets. The fifth hitting the bullseye.
So, back to Air Arms it went… 3 weeks later it comes back and accuracy has been restored…. BUT during the “repair” the dovetail was damaged.
This time I went back to the gun shop who replaced my S510R action with another, (straight out of the box) which had a faulty trigger and was way down on power.
Ok lets try another one, again straight out of the box. This one had scratches on the moderator, missing paint on the trigger and cocking lever, and uneven machining on the trigger guard. So I went home with my “repaired, damaged gun”.
Air Arms have said that they will replace the action but will need to receive mine first - there is another 3 week wait…
I’m now preparing the gun to be sent back for replacement and I’ve now noticed that its leaking air. Lots of air. Left unused for 7 days it lost 125 bar of charge.
Don’t get me wrong, when the S510R actually works properly it performs well and has superb handling.
So thank you guys for posting this video. The FX might be a worthy replacement
Dream line synthetic in 1.77 straight from the box light manoeuvrable,loves air arms Diablos ,jsbs deadly accurate.
All weather stock ,deadly accurate .
On target at 100 metres .
Interchangeable barrels a lot lighter easier to use.
Two really well constructed magazines excellent trigger and very well engineered block.
FX everyday for me .
This is a great head to head. Both respected guns for sure.
Yes the 2 are.
If the gun is to used for hunting in the woods the barrel band on the AA is a big plus ahead of the FX and I hope that FX will offer a barrel support option for the Dreamline. There is already at least one third party company offering a barrel support for the Dreamline which appears to do the job but is not very nice looking.
It needs a barrel support. My point of impact changes dramatically with a moderator. You can see it weighing it down. It makes the barrel touch the air cylinder.
@@briant6669 I hope FX are reading these comments.
Good catch. FX where you at?
@@molecatcher3383 Hey I just slipped a o-ring over my air cylinder. now the barrel rests on the oring so it doesn't bounce against the air cylinder when I am walking, and my point of impact doesn't change with a moderator. I should have thought of it sooner.
Really Really like this head to head.
Thanks guys. Keep them coming.
Thanks, it was fun. I'm trying...
I have an S-510 ultimate Sporter, .25. The stock won't break if you hit a bear. I Love it. Have a thumbhole stock too. Have a crown and an impact too. They are all needle threaders.
Thanks guys. Great information. I wish we could see reviews after 5,000 shots.....And I know everyone is going to start crying, but I will say it anyway. The Umarex Gauntlet is damn close, or exceeds in some categories for $299.......
Yeah, not my favorite, but the Gauntlet does a fantastic job.
Great vid. These are two of the rifles on my very short list of next guns to buy and I still can't make up my mind.
The multi talented AGD staff strut*n their stuff and a great Head to Head. I have reached Nirvana .
🤯 It was fun, real fun.
Strutin is not a bad word don’t know why you censored it
@@squaretorttle9400 What are you talking about ? I never censored strutin !
@@dnick49 yeah you did look at your comment it has an asterisk between the t and n
My 2015 versions of the Sporter was a regular stock s 510. I added the ultimate stock, and a Neil Clague moderator. Very quiet. I also have Huggetts, and Donny Fl. my old impact is a superior field rifle. The AA stock is very fine on the bench. my crown with the .25 slug barrel is wickedly accurate at 150 yards. I did it a crow at 137 yards with the AA using a atn x-sight, first shot. using the computer. I just want all of the high end rifles and pistols. The AA with the thumbhole stock, and a sling is light, and very nice. had the stock clear coated, so it's a bit tougher forscratches.
I need pics. Sounds like you have some very nice rifles.
I call it a draw on all counts. For the accuracy you would need to have each shooter shoot both guns and compare results. Where power and consistency are concerned 2 ftlb isn't a significant difference, and I guarantee the Dreamline would be just as if not more consistent after a full break-in period. Shot count is also important, especially for those who use their gun for hunting small game. Personally I would absolutely love to have either one in my collection.
I agree. Next time both of us should shoot both comparison rifles. Thanks for the advice.
Nice video guys, but you should have included the Daystate Huntsman Regal XL it would have taken every category. British build quality lol. All the best from the UK.
May have to have Travis pull that one out next time.
Eh. Idk in my personal opinion Air Arms is the leader in Quality.
Thanks for taking care of that whatever you call it in the beginning Joe 😁. My ears are indebted to you my friend.
😁 Jeff, where ya been?
@@Monkeydad1969 life has been in the way lately
1.49" vs 1.56"? the FX put more shots together despite the two wingers. I'd lean to FX on the accuracy test.
Very good information and presintation and accuracy test on the AIR ARMS and FX DREAMLINE ,
awsome vidio .
Thanks a bunch.
Whatever you guys are talking ....I love my Fx Dreamline in 22 cal for hunting...light weight,power and accuracy!
Agree, new owner of a FX gun, and it is theeeeeee best. Dreamline 0.22 cal 10j. It shoots soooooo acurate.
This ultimate sporter really deserve a bottel for great shot count.
I agree.
Enjoy watching you two battle it out. Tough call, but I would have to go with the Dream-Classic as FX USA is 30 minutes from my front door! LOL Look forward to these battles in the future!
That's bias...but understood...Predator is 20-30 minutes from my front door. Lol. Thanks for watching.
Nicely done gentleman.... I think we have to give that battle the AA ... This isn't a slight on FX rather a hearty "ata boy" to AA for making a really nice gun. See you guys in the FB Airgun Benchrest Channel.
Thanks. FB Airgun Benchrest Channel? Hmmm 🤔
Glad you guys did this head-to head! I've been considering both of these as my next purchase, and this helped me a lot. QUIET is as important to me as much as any other considerations (which are ALL excellent!), so unless you have found a moderator that will bring the dB of the S510 down to that of the Dreamline, I'm pretty sure the FX is going to be my next gun. I'll be in touch!
Sounds good!
I don't take too much notice of out-of-the-box comparisons. Default factory settings vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Given the tune-ability of the Dreamline, I would suggest that it is easily capable of exceeding or at least matching the performance of the S510.
I would like to see the same guy on the trigger for both guns. You each get to do a string on each gun. One trigger man may be just a little better than the other.....
Smooth twist X barrel is maybe just made popular otherwise nothing better in fact bad than the Lothar Walther barrel in terms of accuracy
and no o-rings inside :)
the standard lw barrel has but one use pellets. and for every different twist rate you have to change the barrel. but with the liners that is a 2 to 5 miunete chage were a barrel change is 20 plus. they are both made to exacting tolerances. but for my experiences i would go with fx. more choices ,more additions, more upgrades. better in quality in my mind and way of thinking, but thats what makes it great everyone has there own way of thinking
The FX rifles are great for their ability to change.
If airarms puts a bottle on the s510 XS it's a wrap for everyone else in terms of true overall build quality
Wow! That's a friggin' fantastic idea!
Fun video to watch.....you guys are hilarious together. (Disclaimer: I own an Air Arms rifle.)
And you win.(I like your disclaimer)
Maybe I need to get an AA for my personal collection.
Loved the banter both guns are great
👍👍👍😜🏴🦄🎣😁✌️
Excellent video. I am a true FX fan but that Air Arms is beautiful. It will definitely be on my airgun wish list. Also, you all have a certain chemistry that works very well together on video. Looking forward to seeing many more.
Thanks TD! You rock!
Great quality video, earned a subscription.
Please do a presentation on that awesome shooting range.
So here's the question, and possibly one thing missing from this test. You guys went over some things that were important but, with everyone who watches this channel also being subscribed to Matt dubber and the other crew down in South Africa, we want to know whether or not these rifles will shoot slugs right out of the box. With the incredible new technology explosion of slugs being introduced, we are seeing people on the internet channels and forums shooting starlings and sparrows out to 200 yards and more, this is quickly going to leave all others in this high price category which only shoot pellets in the dust. I would never spend $2,000 + Honey rifle unless it is going to be used primarily if not exclusively for slugs. Will either of these shoot slugs, or does the FX dreamline come with a slug liner?
Great job guys! and the humor is getting better. Love these videos. One suggestion: The Head to Head videos needs to add a category. "Form to Function" Does the design, engineering, and materials meet the intended purpose. Sporter = Hunting ******THE FX is the TRUE WINNER.****** 1.) British beauty for $1499 is a target rifle, bragger, or wall decoration for hunting except in open terrain or fields. In wooded or heavy brush areas not good at all. Take my advise learned lesson. If an owner scratches it while hunting big price drop, anguish, and much agony. At current non sale prices the FX is available from $1079 in synthetic a "true hunter" to $1329 for pretty that's $170 to $420. 2.) While the British sell a great product but they have spent years perfecting a product because they have no 2nd AMENDMENT. So Air Arms and other European air rifles co. have served the hunting and target industry in Europe for years at 12 F.P.E. while we in the US have Air Rifles as a niche market. America air rifles would be a more superior product then they are now if they served the same purpose for as many years. So enough about the "British" HAHA! but you get the point 3.) True hunting air rifles will quickly be all going to slug barrels and ammo which FX is already supporting.
I like what you said. But I still feel not everyone will shoot slugs. Pellets still for the job for people who don't shoot long range.
That's a great idea, we might be able to incorporate it into our first category on build and ergonomics.
All the trigger test proved was that the AA second stage weight was set higher than the fx
AA hands down my favorite. I understand why others love the fx brand, I just happen to love AirArms.
I second this comment
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Maybe price would be a consideration?
Price does play a big role in any air rifle purchase. We do have expensive tastes.
DREAMLINE WON ACCURACY..8 SHOT NEARLY IN ONE POINT AND 2 FLYERS..
That could be down to the shooter 😁👍
Super review 😁 extrem closed. My favorite ist the dreamline. Only the adjustable cheekpeace would be nice in the fx....price and value i go for the fx !
Good choice.
Just wondering about adjustability of the reg on the Dreamline. If reg is set for lower nuber does the shot count increase, and decrease if its set higher. Some reviews have commented that the power adjust on the air arms didn't really affect shot count.
Yes, the power adjuster on the S510 is a transfer port adjustment which doesn't affect shot count nearly as much as the regulator and hammer spring adjustment of the Dreamline. If you are shooting light pellets, you can back the power off on the Dreamline and get a lot of shots per fill. Not really possible on the AA.
Great video .....keep up the good work!
Thanks!
A little tuning on that dreamline wouldn't hurt the standard deviation but shot count and tunablity was not mentioned that's a big deal to me. Anyway love your videos and my dreampup lol
Those are important considerations but we have to limit the categories a bit. Thanks for the comment!
Hello, what happened to Head-to-head series? We miss it. Need suggestions? Thx
Very good information and presintation on them 2 kickass pcp air rifles and very accurate .
Good video guys, two super nice rifles. But the air arms sported will be better if it was Mach with the royale 400. The price is almost the same. One thing I really don’t like about the s510 is the poor shots count. ONLY 26 shots per fill? For a 1500 dollars gun it’s way too poor. My opinion!!!
I agree. Especially when a $299 Umarex Gauntlet gets 60 plus shots.
Matthew Hayslett I had the s510 carbine. That rifle always gives me 55 good shots. That’s why I didn’t believe this one only shots 26. Still it’s better Mach with the royale 400. Same price.
That fx is awesome 👍
I would call it a draw, especially in category 1, the build quality & ergonomics. The trigger pull as well - nothing wrong with a 1 lb trigger and they're both adjustable. The accuracy? That 8-shot group on the Dreamline was pretty compelling. If I was in the market for one of these, I think I would get the Dreamline.
True. Can't go wrong with there Dreamline.
I have to agree w Brandon Matz. All and all its still depends on the $ numbers too. Also dreamline got 1 more advantage that's able to switch liner to different category.
Is there a video of using the Dreamline to beat off a bear?
That was a nice review but if you point out that the dream line gets more shots then the s510 the standard deviation would not be accurate. but with the extra shots the dream line is the ultimate winner. The standard deviation of the s510 will be much higher after making 60 shots. Plus the use of slugs in the dreamline would give a much higher bc and better grouping. so to me the modular upgrade is also a winner. The ability of the dreamline to add many many extras ,as were in the s510 is at its best and only has 25 shots.After upgrades to the dreamline with bottle adapter and other stuff it is hitting 100-110 shots slug barrel liner and 600 and 700mm barrels and liners. it to me is the best gun, More diverse ability to be able to be changed to suit the need and ability of the hunter or pester as needed. the s510 is stuck at 25 shots. Using the same 250 bar they both have FX shows it has a better ability to use the air given and give time after time better acuracy the the s510. but thats just my idea.
Both are nice. Would be very nice if the S510 had a bigger air supply. Maybe AA will make a bigger tune, or dare I say a bottled version.
@@Monkeydad1969 very true plus if they could make there regulator as good as the fx it would be a true test. i like the fx and the airarms but i think it comes down to price also. very hard to decide so best thing to do is just buy both .
@@shanebarry7469 yeah, wish I could buy both. Lol
@@Monkeydad1969 I HAVE TO REALLY SAVE FOR THE BOTH BUT IT IS WORTH IT
TO ME
@@shanebarry7469 I totally understand. I hope you make us all jealous and get both.
The air arms has barrel made from lothar walther thats why accuracy is awesome but the air arms doesnt came with regulators and smaller volume air cylinder, fx came with monoblock aluminium chamber, regulator but they lack in magazine design which still use spring rotary, the air tube is come from china vs steel blueing of england, for all fx little bit superior but my hands down at air arms
Nice shooting. Both of you.
Thanks Fred. I def need to get out more, just don't have the time like I use to.
You shot better groups with a 22 cal dreamline then you did a 25 caliber fx crown🤔
No reason why a .22 can't be more accurate than a .25 😀, and of course other factors can come into play.
Yea, Its a tough one! Great video!
Thanks. I'd do it all again.
Good overall side by side comparison of the 2 rifles. However the breakdown of the comparison is still going to be up to the shooter. Stock shape is important but different shooters may like different things. For me I like a synthetic stock over wood, and the ability to use AR grips is a plus. As for the trigger, the weight of pull is good but the feel and break of the trigger is far more important. I have made (with an M16a2 and open sights) good shots out to 800m and its trigger was 7-8 pounds but was clean and crisp. My Precision AR now has a 4 pound trigger and breaks ultra crisp due to highly polished parts. Dropping the pull down on a trigger sub 1 pound is nice but is it clean. As for shot count, more is always better but those shots need to be consistent in accuracy and velocity. All in All I say the Dreamline leads the pack on overall use but out of the box its the individual shooter that can say who wins. Around here there are no Air Gun shops, or ranges dedicated to them. So getting hands on with one is impossible here.
Fx much smaller hit area than the other. Pellet selection?
Joe what’s up? Doing big things I see 💪🏾
The high shot count and high capacity mag is one reason I love my dreamline ... Have to give it to FX ,but wouldn't mind owning that AA..
Cara essas dus pcp a Air Arms S510 ultimate Sport e a FX Dreamline são lindas pra falar a verdade eu queria as duas mas sou apaixonado pela Air Arms e também pela FX são duas armas muito foda. Show de vídeo parabéns
What is the point in doing the trigger pull , you can ajust them to what you want ?
Yes, but a lot of people are going to shoot it as it comes out of the box.
@@airgundepot just saying thats all ,😁👍
Great Video
Epic! ❤️
Thanks!
The dream line is the true winner in my book because you can get a slug liner 😉 and the stock choices.
Oh boy , close one guys ! Great head to head . Two great guns
Whattttttt? No witty humor? Man oh man. WOOOOOO! Thanks.
Don' t listen to Joe. We appreciate the kind words, Rick!
Nice Animal House throwback
I'm tossing up between these two. Both top performers. Calibre and stock interchangeability is not a decider for me and I already have a Daystate Regal Xl which is an excellent all day field carry rifle.
Price difference ? .... maybe, but probably not. If I'm going to spend that sort of money I'll fund my preferences.
The adjustability of the S510 XS stock is an important plus for me as I am putting a toe in the competition shooting pond. The Air Arms HFT500 single shot looks good too. May end up with both, ..... lol ! Often the way.
Well I can think of a couple of better things to toss-up between ................
When will a review and accuracy test video for the new BROCOCK BANTAM SNIPER HP 25CAL , with the new polygonal barrel ? ? I here its one bad ass pcp and very accurate
Phillip, we are excited to try one out. Hopefully we'll be able to fit a review of it into the schedule.
Airgun Depot , KOOL , SOUNDS GOOD ! ! !
AA S510 for sure. 💪
Air Arms S510 is my vote ! Only because I hear the FX's are very pellet picky, and I'd rather shoot an airgun that shoots most pellets well. Either way, I'm a Gauntlet price range guy.
Great video guys... informative and funny... great combo. I have to say , though... both are great guns, but the power difference with the lower shot count would not sway me, and the accuracy was very close... I think I would lean towards the dreamline.
Shot count is a very very important factor for those who want to hunt with a PCP. Or shoot for a long period of time. Who wants to be tethered to a bottle or compressor when shooting. Its one major reason I stick with powder burners or Co2 based air guns.
What about caliber change.
Ohhh boy, you guys must be exhausted! Where do I send the fresh apple pie?....another tough day at the office! (edit)...And ohh, who won that battle? You both did, for having such great freakin' jobs!
That's hella funny. I do like apple pie. Unfortunately I have a real world job. So sad...😢
@@Monkeydad1969..I use to think the same thing. Until I started paying taxes in the 70's. Now WE have people like Sanders, AOC and other radical muslims in the senate. I refuse to call this gawd forsaken big ball we occupy 'real world'..no matter how hard I try and hide.
@@gregormiller4037 times are definitely...different.
wow nice air guns
good video n review...rather seen the crown go up against the sport..dreamline seem more entry-level
Air Arms everyday all day
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Very close I like the dreamline better... The dreamline can be improved upon and those smooth twist barrels need to have break in. time. but the thing i like the most about the AA S510 is the power and consistency.... so I probably would buy the AA S510 over the FX Dreamline.... seems to be the over all better gun....??? maybe.
Which caliber it is?
You forgot to mention that the AA has an included built-in rail under the stock sitting flush within the stock. That’s about the only thing that the AA has on the FX. FX all the way for me:)
I love my Air Arms!❤❤❤
I love mine too mate...British Made 💪🏻👊🏻
nice video , tnx ! true , the Air Arms barks a bit more , but more because of his vented shroud , the trigger , well its more a hunting trigger to me , replace it by a Rowan match trigger . for the rest , Air Arms are built like tanks , never let you down and i have 3 of them ;) about the other brand , well , i have 2 of them , but only one working , the second is waiting more than a month for parts :( , so my winner is Air Arms too ;)
AA are nice.
Head to Head must consider price as well
Only one solution - get em both.
That is 177 or 22 ??
I could buy either right now for about the same price. The only difference is the stock on the AA is a thumb hole stock and not the shorter stock. The dream line is priced $250 more . Neither one comes with a silencer. HUM the AA is a .22 and the Dreamliner is a .25. Anyone have a comment???? Around Bend Oregon out !
I think the Dreamline would have won the accuracy all things being equal. This was a match of shooting skills as much as rifle accuracy. It was very close though.
Dreamline!!
...why not judge same moderators and adjust triggers to same let off to get a decent comparison.
Papi!!!! You da Man!!!! Lol 😂 great review
Thanks papi chulo.
How much that?
Good comparison fellows, two nice guns.
Sorry ! cost should play heavily in this ! At the massive cost over the other most of us who dont have lots of money to throw away would say the fx is the winner , And those of us who cant afford more than a hand pump would say the same also .
Honestly I don't own a premium rifle. But I have done build that cost as much. It's what a person can afford. Understand your point totally.
When I first heard the singing I wasn't watching the screne,my first thought was "what on earth is in such agony" don't quit your day job
In my opinion a lighter trigger does not make Better trigger . I trust 1.4 lbs over 13.3 oz any day . The S510 shooter didn't do the gun any justice .
Very close call. I would probably go for the FX because of the weight. There is very little real world difference.
Joe is hilarious
Thanks...just being me. Lol
Yes s510 nice
Oh yeah!
Fx Crown mkII vs State of California please.
I think the Fx is the best...
I'd easily take the Dreamliner over the Air Arms. It all comes down to priorities. Quieter, super light and consistent trigger with over 2x the number of shots. Accuracy and FPE were virtually the same.
Okay guys its time for a new head-to-head. A comparison of the top self contained, Multi-pump (e.g. Seneca Aspen) PCP's. Thanks
Accuracy goes to dreamline in my opinion.
lol, I prefer FX
You said " beat off a bear" lol
😁 her sometimes ya jus' gotta..lol