Thanks George. The wife and I just discovered your channel and love your builds. She'll likely steal an idea or two from you so feel free to steal this idea from us. The cool thing about an idea is it never gets used up. You can give it away to all and never diminish your original supply.
Cleverist sink/counter hack ever! Even though we don’t have a PleasureWay... we have a similar configuration with home entertainment system at the end of the counter.
Problem solved - THANK YOU Larry for sharing ! I've been trying to figure out how to extend the counter and not hide the screen. Wow -so simple YET so brilliant ! I also am planning a lagun table at the front. I would probably see adding a piece of support wood for the bracket either inside the closet or on the outside corner. And I am happy you added your brother's contact info . Once again, you are a blessing to the PW audience. So sad there isn't more people like you sharing PW ideas..THANK YOU !!!
Hey, this guy took my dream and found a way to make it real. I don't have my camper van yet, but I already decided that I wanted to put a pop up counter at the end of the sink cabinet but still have the control panel available.
Thanks. I lucked out on the height as I did not consciously consider when making this on-the-fly. I'll bet some other viewer will make a folding shelf that is exactly flush with the existing counter. All you need to do is increase the thickness of the maple board that attaches to the metal frame. I could actually just cut two more pieces of wood then place them between my brackets and the frame I made. It looks like the additional pieces of wood (acting as spacers) would have to be something between 1" to 1 1/2" thick. The added boards would make the shelf, when in the down position, protrude a little more. Builders can decide how to make theirs depending on how important a flush counter extension is.
So many very very creative people what an excellent thing to do I was crazy for pleasure way to even take away that side table they could’ve put that screen somewhere else your videos are the absolute best I’ve been following you for a long time I’m a soon to be class B owner But I enjoy watching your channel very very much
Fun to see! BTW our sink's Corian top fits between our driver ottoman side and the wall getting it out of the way when we're ready to cook. (Lexor 2018)
I love this idea and followed all the instructions BUT when I let the frame down it won't go all the way down because the weight makes the brackets shift. What am I doing wrong??? Please HELP!!!!!!!!!
Hi Portia, I'm guessing your brackets are not attached to the cabinet wall in a parallel manner. I first attached my brackets to the cabinet wall making sure they were parallel. I then raised the brackets' shelf holder sections to the "up" position. Then I placed the picture frame on top of the extended brackets and secured the wood frame using wood screws pushed up through the bracket holes into the wood.
@@baloodog3568 that's exactly what I did but when I lowered the shelf it would not lower all the way down so I didn't put the screws all the way in and that seemed to work so maybe 12x1/2" long is better but I'm just guessing. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
Brilliant idea. Thank you so much. We bought both roll up table and the chair for our Pleasure-Way OnTour 2.0 we just picked up. Nice to know we can remove the battery cover to have more room. Always learning from you
Love the idea and solution. Will be measuring to see if I can fit one on my Lexor! Thanks for finding Larry’s solution and the other things he and his wife have done. Love the refrigerator too! Thanks for the video and stay safe!
Cool, but I think one could add putting the countertop into a slide sleeve when the frame is down then fold up so it can't get knocked out and damaged.?
It's said that ideas are a dime a dozen...but he has turned it into reality...and seeing it in action ought to show PleasureWay the practical need to integrate it in. (After giving him a couple hundred grand. After all, he did take it from concept to finished product.) Might even take him on as research & development.👍😎
Thanks Amy. Pleasure Way builds the best vans around. The "picture frame" shelf would be a great addition to their models, especially the ones that have the touch-screen on the side of the counter. While the idea works well, it is still just a tilt up shelf and not on the same level as Velcro and White-Out. But thanks for the kind words.
UPDATE- 1st Trip with Shelf The wife and I took our 1st "real" trip in our van with the shelf modification. We spent 9 days traveling parts of the Southwest including Moab, Utah. Our favorite spot was a little known place called Hovenweep National Monument. It was very remote, amazingly uncrowded, dog friendly, and had spotless bathrooms with flush toilets for the 33 beautiful campsites (of which 1/3 were unoccupied!) It has a wealth of ancient Puebloan village ruins which include towers that reminded me of European castles. The hikes above the valley ruins were mostly level and a very pleasant stroll. At an elevation of 5,200' the April/ May climate was comfortable in day and cool at night. GOOGLE THIS PLACE! BACK to SHELF- Unlike our earlier jaunts, we encountered rougher roads on this trip. The shelf, when in the down position during travel, made a good amount of rattling noise. Our temporary solution was to simply lock the picture frame in the "up" position while driving. This eliminated all noise. I am designing some sort of simple locking device that will tightly hold the picture frame against the counter wall while in the down position (using magnets or Velcro.) This will stop the brackets from lightly bouncing and making noise whenever the road gets rough. I will update you on what I decided on once completed. Other that that... the shelf was wonderful. The additional space was a blessing when preparing food and doing dishes. Having an easy place to put the Corian cover made for simple and quick access to the sink. Without it all kitchen chores would be much more difficult and frustrating. TIP- Although obvious, it took us a day or two to figure out that it is a good idea to place your Corian sink cover up-side-down when in the picture frame shelf holder. That way any scratches you may make while working in the kitchen will be on the bottom and not visible when you return the Corian right-side-up to the sink. Larry
Hi Rose. We are loving our 2.2 and know you will be absolutely thrilled. We stumbled upon another really great mod for the 2.2 while installing an additional Lagun mount up front. Basically, there is a microwave-size hollow space under the bathroom vanity floor. We got a little elaborate and routed an outside opening for a maple door. However, anyone can take a simple drill-hole-saw (4" or 6" or 8") and easily drill through the outside wall, or through the vanity floor. You can get a marine access port on Amazon that finishes it off nicely and provides a screw off opening. My wife packed all our tools, tire inflator, battery jumper system, and a whole bumch of other stuff in there. We have a short, homemade video showing what we did at- th-cam.com/video/dBw-KssAanY/w-d-xo.html
UPDATE - Installed fix for shelf bracket rattle on rough roads. Below is a link/URL to a short TH-cam video showing the fix I installed which holds the folded shelf frame secure against the cabinet wall during travel. This eliminated the rattle noise made by the shelf brackets when traveling on roads that are other than smooth. Cost was less than $7.00 for parts. There are many other ways of accomplishing the same thing but this seemed a simple and easy method. th-cam.com/video/BOFKPGtrYFI/w-d-xo.html You can also search TH-cam for the video titled- Folding Shelf Magnet Hold Downs Thanks, Larry
That was so cool! And I had to immediately look up your brothers chairs so could you put a link below, what a great idea! You alaways find the coolest things!
Hi Ela. The next best mod we did to our 2021 On Tour 2.2 is capturing the space Under the vanity. We are right now in Moab on our first real trip and that extra space has proven valuable. I've accessed it several times already to get my tools and manuals. Lots of stuff in there. The extended shelf has worked great and we realize how much more difficult cooking would have been without it. Video link to extra space below. th-cam.com/video/dBw-KssAanY/w-d-xo.html
Awesome invention! I hope PW sees this and incorporates into new models. I heard that the Ontour line had quieter AC units and generators. I bet John would love that bathroom too, his knees will probably fit.
Great idea! I would use thicker stock and make the flip up top level with the cabinet top. I would also recommend using a lap joint, not a mitre joint.
Debbie & John, Larry has. FORD TRANSIT VAN, I’ll look again as to which size he has, as they make 3 lengths& 3 heights , they do have AWD, but it does not intrude BTW someone said MB now has a petrol engine , supposedly 4 cyl turbocharged . . I’ll check the site for myself, stay well cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
That guy is genius! What a great idea! Also, I would like to see more info about those roller chairs. How they work and how to get them. Maybe I missed that in a previous video.
Our 2006 PW Plateau has a pair of pull-out rails very close to where he installed the metal brackets. They extend and the sink cover fits on, to provide an extension to the counter, just like he made. There is also a hinged, flip-up counter-extension at the other end that opens over the bench seat. I wonder why PW dropped the rails.
I am so impressed with Larry’s creativity! I have to do this! Do you think you could find out how he attached the brackets to the cabinet to make it so sturdy? Thank you so much for sharing this video!!
Debbie is correct that I used lock washers and nuts on a screw extended through the cabinet side. I think the proper term for the screws are "Machine Screws." At least that is what the Home Depot aisle sign had on it. Also add a good sized "flat washer" to the mix. So, the sequence would be- Machine screw through metal bracket hole... then through hole drilled through side of wood counter... then through flat washer... then through lock washer... the finally through tightened nut. To attach the picture frame to the metal brackets I used wood screws.
Thanks for the kind words Raewyn. I thought about it but then realized that would be work,... which would take my time... which would decrease my traveling... which is the whole reason my wife and I made the shelf. Funny how we humans can easily get diverted onto a different path if we don't keep our eyes on the horizon. The most rewarding thing I can think of is just hearing back from others that built their own, especially if they found cool ways to tweak the design.
Thinking more about it I really like the idea of making a business out of it. So, if anyone wants to do this you have my blessing, encouragement and support. What better outcome than someone making a little money and others getting a nice addition for their van.
Hello Debbie, I'm a new Pleasureway 2021.5 Ascent RV'er. I've learned so much from watching your videos and this one is AWESOME!!! Can you please share all the measurements and equipments used to mount this? Also, just as a side note, I had the R.I.P. put on April 1st and Everyone at Agile Offroad are Magnificent!!! There is hardly any sway and I'm enjoying getting to know all about my RV. Hopefully I'll get to meet you someday but in the meantime, please continue to add all this wonderful information on TH-cam. Happy Trails!!!!!
@@billrowley3231 Hi Bill. No, the shelf brackets make no noise while traveling. They are silent. In Debbie's video pay attention to the bottom view of the frame. You will see I attached self-adhesive, felt pads to the release levers. The levers are the part of the frame that contacts the cabinet when folded down. That eliminated the possibility of any rattle or scratching of the cabinet surface.
@@baloodog3568 Thanks, loving my 2.0. Wife is really happy about your idea. Doing the construction when the brackets come from Amazon. You are right about that 3.5, it hauls.
Great video thank you! Every time is see one of your videos (and vantrecking) I think my husband and I have got to get a Class B. But this weekend we took our 25' travel trailer camping, and it's the perfect size. . . how could we ever comfortably fit in a van? Oh well! I'll live through you all :o)
I think John especially liked my OnTour 2.2. He really is one tall guy (looks even taller in person than he looks on TH-cam riding that tiny bike.) He seemed really impressed with the headroom (6' 6") in the living areas and leg room in the bathroom. Debbie liked the fridge (compressor and big.) They are fun people and I really enjoyed our couple of hours together talking Class B stuff. Hope to bump into them at some camp during our travels. On thing I forgot to mention was the new model Onan generators they are putting in are SUPER QUIET!
Hello Larry ,that is brilliant ,I also have the same 2021.5 ontour 2.2,so I’m stealing your ideas . Can you please explain how you did the stain process to get that finish?,maybe I missed that part? Thank you
Hi Ira, You may want to contact Pleasure Way dealer and order exact stain. I used a white stain I bought at a Rockler store (see Debbie's list of the materials I used.) It wss oil based. I brushed some on, let it set a few minutes, wiped with a clean cloth, then waited a couple minutes and wiped with a rag with paint thinner on it until much of the white faded and better matched the cabinet.
So brilliant.. Question for Larry; I want to do the same on my 2020 Lexor FL... Have you removed the touchscreen control panel ( 2 small screws in the bottom) to install the stainless brackets..
@@baloodog3568 I removed the touchscreen (really easy) to make sure no wires before drilling holes for the brackets... and theirs not... Easy then to put the lock washers and nuts... Thank you Larry, my PW went from great to fantastic ;-)
I'm so glad you built a folding, picture frame shelf for your Lexor FL. Wish I could see a picture of your finished project. Let's hope Pleasure Way takes the hint and incorporates this feature into some of their models.
We love our ontour 2.2 but fail to understand why PW does not order standard features like adaptive cruise control, wheel well covers (I have never seen a vehicle that did not include wheel well covers), electronic rear view mirrors (a safety issue) and other basic features that Cannot be added by Ford in aftermarket fees.
Great Solution, but what a stupid place to put the screen - should be above the slider or somewhere else you can see and use it easily without having the bend right down or get out of the van!
Hi Linz, The screen location is kind of a compromise because of the problem you noted. The good thing about it is you can operate everything from outside when advantageous like the awning, outside lights... and if you come home after dark, it is great for lighting the inside before entering. Pleasure Way put a 2nd, exact same touch screen panel at eye level in the rear of the coach. We find them both handy depending upon where we are at the moment. Thanks.
This looks great. I hope you add one. On another note, we are using your videos to help us boondock our way through AZ and UT. We are heading to the Sedona area in a few days. Do you have any favorite spots near Jerome, Cottonwood or Sedona? After that we are heading to all the area NPs and have many of your suggestions already tagged. Thanks for all you do to help a couple of new van travelers.
You're welcome. I hope you have a great trip. Beautiful time to be visiting those areas. We have not done that part of Arizona with our van. Years ago we did a Backroads Bicycle tour from Sedona to Jerome but have not done any hiking. One of our viewers, "TD Adventures" has a channel and they recently posted several hikes from Sedona. Heads up, Sedona is a zoo. Hope you can at least do it mid week. We will probably hit those areas next fall.
@@FromShetoMe Thank you for your reply. Your advice about Sedona was helpful. We went in very early on Friday morning and spent most of the day there. So beautiful. We are taking some downtime to let some rainy weather pass through before we go to the Grand Canyon hopefully on Wednesday. Then on to Utah to explore your playground 😊
I have to write to you and thank you for your videos. We were able to spend last night in Kodachrome Basin SP and loved it. We may not have chosen to visit there without seeing your video even though we both worked at Kodak. We did the Angels Palace trail and Panorama Trail. What a beautiful place. We are exploring Escalante Petrified Forest SP tomorrow and then on to more of your itinerary. Thank you again for sharing your adventures and recommendations. Safe travels.
@@michellekorn3693 You are so welcome. Speaking of Kodak...My grandmother and grandfather knew George Eastman and often had dinner at his home. My grandmother said he never served celery because he didn't like the sound of people chewing it.
Off subject, but do you need a special sewing machine to get through the thickness of the fabric you used fir your insulated window curtains? AND how many yards of Warm Window Fabric did you need? I just want a ballpark figure. We will have a Lexor in a couple of weeks & I want to at least have some fabric so I can be ready to get sewing.
No special machine required for the fabric. A walking foot attachment may be helpful but I didn't use one. I really don't remember how many yards I used. I want to say 5 yards but I re-worked the back and purchased extra. And the Lexor is a bigger rig so the windows may be larger. The fabric is 54" wide so if your windows are wider than that, then you'll either have to piece it (which is no problem) or lay it out length wise. Either way is fine. Feel free to email me if you have questions: energymaven@gmail.com
I apologize if this ? has been mired in the comments, but I was wondering if you had any luck linking to the bathroom trashcan featured in Larry's video. Love the design/functionality. Would like something similar. Have had no luck locating with my searches. Appreciate any addl info. Cheers, Jim
Yes, I found it and discovered it wouldn't work in our Ascent. But here is the link: www.amazon.com/dp/B082QWMCT1/?coliid=I1VGBSJQD6H44C&colid=2A262BRXIIEQ6&psc=1
No, my 2021 Ontour 2.2 is almost completely clean on the inside of the wall that the brackets screws pass through. I did place only 5 machine screws through the 6 holes in the brackets. Behind the right side bracket's bottom hole was the hinge for the cabinet door. I left that one out. The brackets are rated for something like 350 pounds so no problem, especially since the top screws bear most all of the burden due to less leverage. You could really just put in 4 screws and be just fine. There is room to move the brackets left-right a bit depending upon how wide you made your picture frame.
The monitor is so thin it all sits entirely on the surface of the cabinet's side. There is no hidden part of the monitor. There is about a 1/2" hole in the wall behind the monitor where the wire comes through but does not obstruct installation in any way. The only hard part is taking out the drawer for working room. My pea-brain couldn't figure it out so I just twisted my arms in unnatural ways to tighten the nuts.
@@baloodog3568 very nice work! could you briefly describe how you attached the 2 pieces of wood (rail and base) for the picture frame together? screws, bolts, dowels?? thanks!
Hi Strat, If you are speaking of the all wood picture frame, I used wood glue and my nail gun. Glue alone will work. I used the nail gin mainly to hold the pieces together while drying.
My subscribers have rocketed from 3 to something like 47! Feel free to subscribe, but don't expect continued genius. I also post a lot of dumb stuff. You may, however, enjoy the time-lapse videos I started making in retirement.
Great info. One suggestion, though. I’d rather see either his face or the features he’s talking about, rather than his headless torso. It was a little distracting.
Thanks Theresa! But personally, I also thought my legs were my best feature and much nicer looking than my face. But you have a good point on "framing" the shots and I'm sure Debbie took notice. We do have to give her credit for her channel's wonderful drone video sequences... unusual angle shots... time lapse sunsets. I was so impressed I asked her if she had a professional background in photography. The answer was, "no" and she admits to being new to videography and an avid learner.
Very clever! I like the way he thinks!
Thanks George. The wife and I just discovered your channel and love your builds. She'll likely steal an idea or two from you so feel free to steal this idea from us. The cool thing about an idea is it never gets used up. You can give it away to all and never diminish your original supply.
Cleverist sink/counter hack ever! Even though we don’t have a PleasureWay... we have a similar configuration with home entertainment system at the end of the counter.
One of the best ideas I’ve seen! Thanks.
American ingenuity always impresses me. Thanks for sharing.
People are so inventive
Nice people Great channel👍🏼
So impressed with this solution. Great video.
Awesome tour and ideas (flip up counter, sink cover & trash can with toilet brush holder)
Problem solved - THANK YOU Larry for sharing ! I've been trying to figure out how to extend the counter and not hide the screen. Wow -so simple YET so brilliant ! I also am planning a lagun table at the front. I would probably see adding a piece of support wood for the bracket either inside the closet or on the outside corner. And I am happy you added your brother's contact info . Once again, you are a blessing to the PW audience. So sad there isn't more people like you sharing PW ideas..THANK YOU !!!
Thanks. Check out Larry’s channel as he has done the Lagun mount in front. Won’t work on an Ascent though. Link in description box.
Very creative and expertly done!
Hey, this guy took my dream and found a way to make it real. I don't have my camper van yet, but I already decided that I wanted to put a pop up counter at the end of the sink cabinet but still have the control panel available.
Hi Dianne, what type rig are you getting? Let me know if you have any questions when you start making the shelf.
Larry
It is at a great height too. A lot will be set down from the counter height like 2 or 3 inches.
Thanks. I lucked out on the height as I did not consciously consider when making this on-the-fly. I'll bet some other viewer will make a folding shelf that is exactly flush with the existing counter. All you need to do is increase the thickness of the maple board that attaches to the metal frame. I could actually just cut two more pieces of wood then place them between my brackets and the frame I made. It looks like the additional pieces of wood (acting as spacers) would have to be something between 1" to 1 1/2" thick. The added boards would make the shelf, when in the down position, protrude a little more. Builders can decide how to make theirs depending on how important a flush counter extension is.
A simply genious idea.
Well done.
So many very very creative people what an excellent thing to do I was crazy for pleasure way to even take away that side table they could’ve put that screen somewhere else your videos are the absolute best I’ve been following you for a long time I’m a soon to be class B owner
But I enjoy watching your channel very very much
Fun to see! BTW our sink's Corian top fits between our driver ottoman side and the wall getting it out of the way when we're ready to cook. (Lexor 2018)
He’sssss a genius.
A great mod there! Now that we have our earnest money on our RV, I'll be looking into your brothers table and chairs! Very cool!
Be seeing you!
So good we had to make it! We created a minimalist version with just supports on each side. I wish I knew how to add a photo of it!
You can email it to me: energymaven@gmail.com
@@FromShetoMe Done and thank you!
I love this idea and followed all the instructions BUT when I let the frame down it won't go all the way down because the weight makes the brackets shift. What am I doing wrong??? Please HELP!!!!!!!!!
Hi Portia,
I'm guessing your brackets are not attached to the cabinet wall in a parallel manner. I first attached my brackets to the cabinet wall making sure they were parallel. I then raised the brackets' shelf holder sections to the "up" position. Then I placed the picture frame on top of the extended brackets and secured the wood frame using wood screws pushed up through the bracket holes into the wood.
@@baloodog3568 that's exactly what I did but when I lowered the shelf it would not lower all the way down so I didn't put the screws all the way in and that seemed to work so maybe 12x1/2" long is better but I'm just guessing. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
Brilliant idea. Thank you so much. We bought both roll up table and the chair for our Pleasure-Way OnTour 2.0 we just picked up. Nice to know we can remove the battery cover to have more room. Always learning from you
Wonderful! Thanks.
Love the idea and solution. Will be measuring to see if I can fit one on my Lexor! Thanks for finding Larry’s solution and the other things he and his wife have done. Love the refrigerator too! Thanks for the video and stay safe!
Cool, but I think one could add putting the countertop into a slide sleeve when the frame is down then fold up so it can't get knocked out and damaged.?
If Pleasure Way puts this idea into their vans, they better pay him good for this idea!💡
It's said that ideas are a dime a dozen...but he has turned it into reality...and seeing it in action ought to show PleasureWay the practical need to integrate it in. (After giving him a couple hundred grand. After all, he did take it from concept to finished product.) Might even take him on as research & development.👍😎
Thanks Amy. Pleasure Way builds the best vans around. The "picture frame" shelf would be a great addition to their models, especially the ones that have the touch-screen on the side of the counter. While the idea works well, it is still just a tilt up shelf and not on the same level as Velcro and White-Out. But thanks for the kind words.
UPDATE- 1st Trip with Shelf
The wife and I took our 1st "real" trip in our van with the shelf modification. We spent 9 days traveling parts of the Southwest including Moab, Utah. Our favorite spot was a little known place called Hovenweep National Monument. It was very remote, amazingly uncrowded, dog friendly, and had spotless bathrooms with flush toilets for the 33 beautiful campsites (of which 1/3 were unoccupied!) It has a wealth of ancient Puebloan village ruins which include towers that reminded me of European castles. The hikes above the valley ruins were mostly level and a very pleasant stroll. At an elevation of 5,200' the April/ May climate was comfortable in day and cool at night. GOOGLE THIS PLACE!
BACK to SHELF- Unlike our earlier jaunts, we encountered rougher roads on this trip. The shelf, when in the down position during travel, made a good amount of rattling noise. Our temporary solution was to simply lock the picture frame in the "up" position while driving. This eliminated all noise.
I am designing some sort of simple locking device that will tightly hold the picture frame against the counter wall while in the down position (using magnets or Velcro.) This will stop the brackets from lightly bouncing and making noise whenever the road gets rough. I will update you on what I decided on once completed.
Other that that... the shelf was wonderful. The additional space was a blessing when preparing food and doing dishes. Having an easy place to put the Corian cover made for simple and quick access to the sink. Without it all kitchen chores would be much more difficult and frustrating.
TIP- Although obvious, it took us a day or two to figure out that it is a good idea to place your Corian sink cover up-side-down when in the picture frame shelf holder. That way any scratches you may make while working in the kitchen will be on the bottom and not visible when you return the Corian right-side-up to the sink.
Larry
Pleasureway used magnets to secure the extension.
We bought the ontour 2.0!
Am presently working on the warm window shades.
Not a sewer but doing my best. Thankyou for your tips!! Appreciate it!!
Let me know if I can be of help. Energymaven@gmail.com.
I tried Sending to the email you suggested but it was returned that the email does not exist.
Hmmm. energymaven@gmail.com
We are awaiting our Ontour 2.2. Loved the tour and the table top assembly idea. We can’t wait for ours to arrive.
Hi Rose. We are loving our 2.2 and know you will be absolutely thrilled. We stumbled upon another really great mod for the 2.2 while installing an additional Lagun mount up front. Basically, there is a microwave-size hollow space under the bathroom vanity floor. We got a little elaborate and routed an outside opening for a maple door. However, anyone can take a simple drill-hole-saw (4" or 6" or 8") and easily drill through the outside wall, or through the vanity floor. You can get a marine access port on Amazon that finishes it off nicely and provides a screw off opening. My wife packed all our tools, tire inflator, battery jumper system, and a whole bumch of other stuff in there. We have a short, homemade video showing what we did at- th-cam.com/video/dBw-KssAanY/w-d-xo.html
UPDATE - Installed fix for shelf bracket rattle on rough roads.
Below is a link/URL to a short TH-cam video showing the fix I installed which holds the folded shelf frame secure against the cabinet wall during travel. This eliminated the rattle noise made by the shelf brackets when traveling on roads that are other than smooth. Cost was less than $7.00 for parts. There are many other ways of accomplishing the same thing but this seemed a simple and easy method.
th-cam.com/video/BOFKPGtrYFI/w-d-xo.html
You can also search TH-cam for the video titled-
Folding Shelf Magnet Hold Downs
Thanks,
Larry
That was so cool! And I had to immediately look up your brothers chairs so could you put a link below, what a great idea! You alaways find the coolest things!
Thanks. I’ll do that.
Great video. Thank you. Blessings
Love the flip table. We will attempt to build it. Thank you Debbie and Bill.
Glad you liked the design. Let us know how it comes out and if you figured out any improvements. What type rig you putting it into?
My rig is 2021 Pleasure Way On Tour 2.2
Hi Ela.
The next best mod we did to our 2021 On Tour 2.2 is capturing the space
Under the vanity. We are right now in Moab on our first real trip and that extra space has proven valuable. I've accessed it several times already to get my tools and manuals. Lots of stuff in there. The extended shelf has worked great and we realize how much more difficult cooking would have
been without it. Video link to extra space below.
th-cam.com/video/dBw-KssAanY/w-d-xo.html
Awesome invention! I hope PW sees this and incorporates into new models. I heard that the Ontour line had quieter AC units and generators. I bet John would love that bathroom too, his knees will probably fit.
Correct Joyce on the generator. It is a new Onan model is is MUCH quitter than the former model. My wife was really likes this improvement.
Awesome ideas. Thanks ☺️
Brilliant! And gorgeous design.
Great idea! I would use thicker stock and make the flip up top level with the cabinet top. I would also recommend using a lap joint, not a mitre joint.
Debbie & John, Larry has. FORD TRANSIT VAN, I’ll look again as to which size he has, as they make 3 lengths& 3 heights , they do have AWD, but it does not intrude BTW someone said MB now has a petrol engine , supposedly 4 cyl turbocharged . . I’ll check the site for myself, stay well cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great idea 👍 Thanks for sharing the info.
That guy is genius! What a great idea! Also, I would like to see more info about those roller chairs. How they work and how to get them. Maybe I missed that in a previous video.
My brother's website is camptime.com
Totally brilliant!! Thank you!!
You have a great channel. I can't believe you don't have 4x the subs that you do
Thanks. I kind of like having a channel that grows organically. Allows me to interact with folks like you.
Our 2006 PW Plateau has a pair of pull-out rails very close to where he installed the metal brackets. They extend and the sink cover fits on, to provide an extension to the counter, just like he made. There is also a hinged, flip-up counter-extension at the other end that opens over the bench seat. I wonder why PW dropped the rails.
Oh my gosh, this is great! We are waiting on our 2021.5 to be built and my husband really wanted a pop up table! 👍
simply brilliant!
😮really good idea
I absolutely love it!!
Impressive Larry!
Very nice.
Just brilliant!
Great minds.
I am so impressed with Larry’s creativity! I have to do this! Do you think you could find out how he attached the brackets to the cabinet to make it so sturdy? Thank you so much for sharing this video!!
It's the same as our van, wood screws and lock washers. A list of the hardware he used is in the description box of the video.
I meant sheet metal screws and lock washers.
Thanks so much! I love all your great ideas and travels!
Debbie is correct that I used lock washers and nuts on a screw extended through the cabinet side. I think the proper term for the screws are "Machine Screws." At least that is what the Home Depot aisle sign had on it. Also add a good sized "flat washer" to the mix. So, the sequence would be- Machine screw through metal bracket hole... then through hole drilled through side of wood counter... then through flat washer... then through lock washer... the finally through tightened nut.
To attach the picture frame to the metal brackets I used wood screws.
@@baloodog3568 Thank you so much!!
OMG!! BRILLIANT!!
genius - he could make a business out of it!!!
Thanks for the kind words Raewyn. I thought about it but then realized that would be work,... which would take my time... which would decrease my traveling... which is the whole reason my wife and I made the shelf. Funny how we humans can easily get diverted onto a different path if we don't keep our eyes on the horizon. The most rewarding thing I can think of is just hearing back from others that built their own, especially if they found cool ways to tweak the design.
Thinking more about it I really like the idea of making a business out of it. So, if anyone wants to do this you have my blessing, encouragement and support. What better outcome than someone making a little money and others getting a nice addition for their van.
Hello Debbie, I'm a new Pleasureway 2021.5 Ascent RV'er. I've learned so much from watching your videos and this one is AWESOME!!! Can you please share all the measurements and equipments used to mount this?
Also, just as a side note, I had the R.I.P. put on April 1st and Everyone at Agile Offroad are Magnificent!!! There is hardly any sway and I'm enjoying getting to know all about my RV. Hopefully I'll get to meet you someday but in the meantime, please continue to add all this wonderful information on TH-cam. Happy Trails!!!!!
The list of materials is in the description box of the video. Would love to see a photo if/when you do it.
Do the shelf brackets rattle while driving?
@@billrowley3231 Hi Bill. No, the shelf brackets make no noise while traveling. They are silent. In Debbie's video pay attention to the bottom view of the frame. You will see I attached self-adhesive, felt pads to the release levers. The levers are the part of the frame that contacts the cabinet when folded down. That eliminated the possibility of any rattle or scratching of the cabinet surface.
@@baloodog3568 Thanks, loving my 2.0. Wife is really happy about your idea. Doing the construction when the brackets come from Amazon. You are right about that 3.5, it hauls.
Great Bill! Please post a photo when completed.
Brilliant!
Brilliant!!!!! Does Larry have a TH-cam channel?
Yes! Search “Baloo Dog Pleasure Way” and you can see his latest projects!
love your channel
Great video thank you! Every time is see one of your videos (and vantrecking) I think my husband and I have got to get a Class B. But this weekend we took our 25' travel trailer camping, and it's the perfect size. . . how could we ever comfortably fit in a van? Oh well! I'll live through you all :o)
That is a great idea!
clever, Thank You!
I’ve been wondering if there is an OnTour in your future! 👋
I think John especially liked my OnTour 2.2. He really is one tall guy (looks even taller in person than he looks on TH-cam riding that tiny bike.) He seemed really impressed with the headroom (6' 6") in the living areas and leg room in the bathroom. Debbie liked the fridge (compressor and big.) They are fun people and I really enjoyed our couple of hours together talking Class B stuff. Hope to bump into them at some camp during our travels. On thing I forgot to mention was the new model Onan generators they are putting in are SUPER QUIET!
That’s excellent
Love it!👍
Wizard Magic!!
Brilliant!!!
Could you use neodymium magnets to hold the insert in the fold-up frame?
You might try going to Larry’s channel (link in description box) and ask him directly.
Hello Larry ,that is brilliant ,I also have the same 2021.5 ontour 2.2,so I’m stealing your ideas .
Can you please explain how you did the stain process to get that finish?,maybe I missed that part?
Thank you
Hi Ira,
You may want to contact Pleasure Way dealer and order exact stain. I used a white stain I bought at a Rockler store (see Debbie's list of the materials I used.) It wss oil based. I brushed some on, let it set a few minutes, wiped with a clean cloth, then waited a couple minutes and wiped with a rag with paint thinner on it until much of the white faded and better matched the cabinet.
Genius!
So brilliant.. Question for Larry; I want to do the same on my 2020 Lexor FL... Have you removed the touchscreen control panel ( 2 small screws in the bottom) to install the stainless brackets..
Not sure Larry will check back on this but the bracket placement did not interfere with the touchscreen.
Hi Neige,
My touchscreen was not in the way and I did not remove it.
@@baloodog3568 I removed the touchscreen (really easy) to make sure no wires before drilling holes for the brackets... and theirs not... Easy then to put the lock washers and nuts... Thank you Larry, my PW went from great to fantastic ;-)
I'm so glad you built a folding, picture frame shelf for your Lexor FL. Wish I could see a picture of your finished project. Let's hope Pleasure Way takes the hint and incorporates this feature into some of their models.
two thumbs up!
We love our ontour 2.2 but fail to understand why PW does not order standard features like adaptive cruise control, wheel well covers (I have never seen a vehicle that did not include wheel well covers), electronic rear view mirrors (a safety issue) and other basic features that Cannot be added by Ford in aftermarket fees.
I think it’s because of how difficult it is to get any vehicles, let alone add upgrades.
Great Solution, but what a stupid place to put the screen - should be above the slider or somewhere else you can see and use it easily without having the bend right down or get out of the van!
Hi Linz,
The screen location is kind of a compromise because of the problem you noted. The good thing about it is you can operate everything from outside when advantageous like the awning, outside lights... and if you come home after dark, it is great for lighting the inside before entering. Pleasure Way put a 2nd, exact same touch screen panel at eye level in the rear of the coach. We find them both handy depending upon where we are at the moment. Thanks.
This looks great. I hope you add one.
On another note, we are using your videos to help us boondock our way through AZ and UT. We are heading to the Sedona area in a few days. Do you have any favorite spots near Jerome, Cottonwood or Sedona? After that we are heading to all the area NPs and have many of your suggestions already tagged. Thanks for all you do to help a couple of new van travelers.
You're welcome. I hope you have a great trip. Beautiful time to be visiting those areas. We have not done that part of Arizona with our van. Years ago we did a Backroads Bicycle tour from Sedona to Jerome but have not done any hiking. One of our viewers, "TD Adventures" has a channel and they recently posted several hikes from Sedona. Heads up, Sedona is a zoo. Hope you can at least do it mid week. We will probably hit those areas next fall.
@@FromShetoMe Thank you for your reply. Your advice about Sedona was helpful. We went in very early on Friday morning and spent most of the day there. So beautiful. We are taking some downtime to let some rainy weather pass through before we go to the Grand Canyon hopefully on Wednesday. Then on to Utah to explore your playground 😊
I have to write to you and thank you for your videos. We were able to spend last night in Kodachrome Basin SP and loved it. We may not have chosen to visit there without seeing your video even though we both worked at Kodak. We did the Angels Palace trail and Panorama Trail. What a beautiful place. We are exploring Escalante Petrified Forest SP tomorrow and then on to more of your itinerary. Thank you again for sharing your adventures and recommendations. Safe travels.
@@michellekorn3693 You are so welcome.
Speaking of Kodak...My grandmother and grandfather knew George Eastman and often had dinner at his home. My grandmother said he never served celery because he didn't like the sound of people chewing it.
Interested in your brother’s chairs. What is the name, where can I find them
Go to camptime.com
Off subject, but do you need a special sewing machine to get through the thickness of the fabric you used fir your insulated window curtains? AND how many yards of Warm Window Fabric did you need? I just want a ballpark figure. We will have a Lexor in a couple of weeks & I want to at least have some fabric so I can be ready to get sewing.
No special machine required for the fabric. A walking foot attachment may be helpful but I didn't use one. I really don't remember how many yards I used. I want to say 5 yards but I re-worked the back and purchased extra. And the Lexor is a bigger rig so the windows may be larger. The fabric is 54" wide so if your windows are wider than that, then you'll either have to piece it (which is no problem) or lay it out length wise. Either way is fine. Feel free to email me if you have questions: energymaven@gmail.com
I apologize if this ? has been mired in the comments, but I was wondering if you had any luck linking to the bathroom trashcan featured in Larry's video. Love the design/functionality. Would like something similar. Have had no luck locating with my searches. Appreciate any addl info. Cheers, Jim
Yes, I found it and discovered it wouldn't work in our Ascent. But here is the link: www.amazon.com/dp/B082QWMCT1/?coliid=I1VGBSJQD6H44C&colid=2A262BRXIIEQ6&psc=1
TYVM😊👍🏼
Fantastic idea!! PS---Love your channel! Just subscribed!!
Thanks and welcome.
You can follow Larry’s channel (Baloo Dog) and see his latest improvements at:
th-cam.com/channels/rm93roHoGisGCmIY3H-57g.html
I am in Australia and I would like the link for Rollo products please
Camptime.com
@@FromShetoMe thank you 😊 I am very interested for my pop up van 🤩
Larry, Any precautions for screwing or drilling shelf brackets on left side of monitor? Can you hit plumbing?
Hi Bill, I'll ask Larry to respond to your question.
No, my 2021 Ontour 2.2 is almost completely clean on the inside of the wall that the brackets screws pass through. I did place only 5 machine screws through the 6 holes in the brackets. Behind the right side bracket's bottom hole was the hinge for the cabinet door. I left that one out. The brackets are rated for something like 350 pounds so no problem, especially since the top screws bear most all of the burden due to less leverage. You could really just put in 4 screws and be just fine. There is room to move the brackets left-right a bit depending upon how wide you made your picture frame.
The monitor is so thin it all sits entirely on the surface of the cabinet's side. There is no hidden part of the monitor. There is about a 1/2" hole in the wall behind the monitor where the wire comes through but does not obstruct installation in any way. The only hard part is taking out the drawer for working room. My pea-brain couldn't figure it out so I just twisted my arms in unnatural ways to tighten the nuts.
@@baloodog3568 very nice work! could you briefly describe how you attached the 2 pieces of wood (rail and base) for the picture frame together? screws, bolts, dowels?? thanks!
Hi Strat,
If you are speaking of the all wood picture frame, I used wood glue and my nail gun. Glue alone will work. I used the nail gin mainly to hold the pieces together while drying.
You can follow Larry’s TH-cam channel (Baloo Dog) and see his latest projects!
Just search “Baloo Dog Pleasure Way.”
I’ve linked to his channel in the description box.
My subscribers have rocketed from 3 to something like 47! Feel free to subscribe, but don't expect continued genius. I also post a lot of dumb stuff. You may, however, enjoy the time-lapse videos I started making in retirement.
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Hi. What’s the company for those roller chains please?
You might try going to Larry’s channel (link in description box) and ask him directly.
What's the link to your brother's company?? Thanks
Camptime.com
My kind of guy, "I can put a lot of ice cream up here"
That is a wonderful modification because it serves a need while blending in with the interior.
Thanks Charles. My favorite flavors are Chocolate Chip and Praline Pecan. What's yours.
Butter Pecan and anything with peanut butter in it
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Great info. One suggestion, though. I’d rather see either his face or the features he’s talking about, rather than his headless torso. It was a little distracting.
For sure.
Thanks Theresa! But personally, I also thought my legs were my best feature and much nicer looking than my face. But you have a good point on "framing" the shots and I'm sure Debbie took notice. We do have to give her credit for her channel's wonderful drone video sequences... unusual angle shots... time lapse sunsets. I was so impressed I asked her if she had a professional background in photography. The answer was, "no" and she admits to being new to videography and an avid learner.
I still liked it.