Narcissist's, Borderline's Rage Not Same (Grandiosity vs. Acting Out)

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  • Narcissistic rage is intended to restore the narcissist’s grandiosity. It is a reaction to shame, fragility, vulnerability, and humiliation. It signals superiority, defiance, and invulnerabiity. It is psychopathic.
    The borderline’s acting out is about regaining control over her life and over the abandoning or rejecting person (behavior modification and manipulation). It is more panic than rage. It signals neediness and is codependent.
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  • @Pink_143_6
    @Pink_143_6 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Would enjoy if you covered narcassists who are content creators and how they try to control their audience. I am always baffled by the grandiosity of particular content creators who act out of they don’t get their way and blame others for example their channel content getting less views. Thank you! Youre the best!

    • @SherriFlemming
      @SherriFlemming วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sam has done these podcasts.

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Search the channel for "guru" and "expert".

  • @lisatotzauer8245
    @lisatotzauer8245 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I have tendencies of both (around every "regular" contact I am more narcissistic, around my favorite person more Borderline = probably Covert Borderline) and I can confirm that distinction from my point of view 👍👍👍

  • @donnadwarika6370
    @donnadwarika6370 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Morning Sir n thank you for what you do❤.Yes you always make me understand❤.

  • @Joe-Fowler
    @Joe-Fowler 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Talk about borderline mothers and their children

  • @Wordywizard1121
    @Wordywizard1121 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I feel like a shame egg sometimes, peeking through the cracks in embarrassing ways rather than facing the light. Unintentionally malicious to the gift of Self and making it my enemy as I keep up appearances. I pretend that this is all happening internally but I realize that everything eventually makes its way into the makeup of my mask and the quality of my actions. Therapy is helping but I'm subconsciously undermining progress so I can avoid feeling 'unfixable'. This video helps me face my vunerabilities and shortcomings I must admit, I don't want to be a virus and I don't have to be if I nurture awareness and personal reflection. Thanks again professor, it's not an easy subject to cover but you do an excellent job.

  • @mariokery7155
    @mariokery7155 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thank you, Sam Vaknin . Your patience and humility will lead us into the light of understanding the darkness of the narrssacist.

  • @andrewmarshall1460
    @andrewmarshall1460 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Any discernible differences in the aftermath, when rage is talked about? E.g. Pretend like it didn't happen, blame shifting vs shame based apologies etc.

    • @unamass75
      @unamass75 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Bpd will forget and then feel shame and say sorry NPD will twist the story and become a victim

  • @shayne881
    @shayne881 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It must be really fucked up when its a borderline acting out to defend her self from the narcissistic rage of her mother and brother ,lol!😢

  • @a.alliswell4987
    @a.alliswell4987 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing ... Thank You !!

  • @maryvera123
    @maryvera123 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I like how you get right to the core of WHY people with BPD and NPD behave the way they do. 💯

  • @JoeVellaMalta
    @JoeVellaMalta วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Interesting. Short and sweet

  • @sneak9407
    @sneak9407 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hence:
    You will see crimes like: one person trying to get the other person back from complete abandonment. Going over to the person, having sexual intercourse, taking pictures, and at the end removing the partner because they failed to halt the further seperation. Doctors will even diagnose such people with pyschopathy, instead of what they actually are: *BPD*
    Their last attempt to save the complete and absolute abandonment failed
    Hence the temporary state of a psychopath due to the rage and anger.
    Note: colmplete abandonment is not "let's have a break". It is when on the break and it seems like there is no coming back. No coming back in the sense that the other party is about to move on to another partner. This is when the BPD does the last ditch effort of securing a date to "hookup" but the intention at the end of the day is you abandon engaging any further with the new partner. If this fails, the abandoning party must feel physical pain... which usually gets out of hand and leads to the demise of the partner.
    The "let's have a break" stage only induces psychopathy to the levels of: "i will off myself, if you leave me" and instense promiscuity. Hence why it never gets better after the "break phase"

  • @jtowers599
    @jtowers599 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Appreciate your videos Dr vaknin.Does medication such as SSRIs have any affect on the narcissists & borderlines rage? Do you have any videos on medication for cluster b personality Disorders?

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Search the therapies playlist.

  • @ginkgo2021
    @ginkgo2021 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If someone is a covert narcissist, how is it that they can also be a successful business person? Why do they not collapse during the periodic pressures of being “the boss” in a workplace setting?

    • @samvaknin
      @samvaknin  วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Coverts are in a PERMANENT state of collapse. They are USED to it and function well (high-functioning) WITH it.

  • @apubanerjee5496
    @apubanerjee5496 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    PROF SAM , A Bulls eye hit content .
    👍.
    The rage of narcissist & psychopath ,
    some way or the other way ,
    merges to one another ,
    by a fine thread line ,
    there by producing ,
    a synergy effect
    of the two ,
    within each of them ,
    without any discrimination ,
    amidst them .
    🌟 .

    • @SherriFlemming
      @SherriFlemming วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "My way or the highway"
      It's about power and control.

    • @apubanerjee5496
      @apubanerjee5496 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SherriFlemming
      When they gets rejected at the
      beginning itself . ✔✔✔
      ( as in my case the narcissist got rejected by me , within 6 months , from the starting of my initial involvement , ie , from day one , )
      👇
      thier life's tie rod ↔️ gets cut off forever .
      👇
      Never ever they did manage to recover from
      it , since their early teen hood to now at thier
      old age ie 52+ yrs .✔✔✔
      MADAM SHERRY ,
      This is what i have seen & observed
      till today , in a specific narcissist .
      By this time 😃 , i also reached from my
      the then a college going boy ,
      to now me an old man of my 62+ yrs of age .
      It is , ↔️ what it is .
      🌟 .

    • @apubanerjee5496
      @apubanerjee5496 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SherriFlemming
      Madam SHERRI ,
      When they gets rejected at the beginning
      say within 6 months ( as in my case ) , from
      day one , by me ,
      👇
      their tie rod gets cut off forever .
      They never recovers even one inch
      further from it ,
      be it to highway , to bylanes , or even to
      their own ways .
      That's what i observed atleast in a specific
      narcissist / psychopath
      ( the two in one ) ,
      over last 4+ decades .
      A reality , ↔️ as it is .
      🌟 .

    • @SherriFlemming
      @SherriFlemming วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@apubanerjee5496 Very well said!

  • @rebeccajean9806
    @rebeccajean9806 46 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Professor Vaknin,
    Is it a possibility that the narcissist behavior changes,like devalue , degrade are dependent on his observations of his wife’s mood.

  • @Greenbambu78
    @Greenbambu78 วันที่ผ่านมา

    woah...I had forgotten important details. I need to review the book🤭😁

  • @AlejandraSarmiento-o1h
    @AlejandraSarmiento-o1h 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    @samvaknin what if the narcisist win the trial against him (violence charges). What to expect? Will he try to hurt me again?

  • @user-rm4ye7fp5d
    @user-rm4ye7fp5d 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    i believe i have a vulnurable narcissistic older brother and a younger sister with bpd. can narcissist abuse develop bpd in a sibling? 🤔

    • @lilithh23
      @lilithh23 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-rm4ye7fp5d yes, if your parents also narcissistic

  • @johnnuaxon3
    @johnnuaxon3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is Leo Gura a narcissist ?

    • @BenSolo777
      @BenSolo777 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Definitely, he has good advice. But he's what I like to call a spiritual narcissist.

  • @lilithh23
    @lilithh23 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    borderline rage more dangerous?

    • @lilithh23
      @lilithh23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @whatap_prof_Sam_vak_fan how do I contact you?