You will find Pleasureway and Leisure Travel Vans to be of much higher build quality, and at a lower price. We came from an Airstream Classic 30 which had wiring that could be best described as a rats nest. The wiring in our Leisure van is all loomed and secured. The loose wiring in the Air Conditioning plenum is proof of horrible quality control. Loose wires eventually rub and fail.
@@camrodger8638 yeah the wiring in the airstream is scary to say the least. We didn’t like the layouts of the pleasure way or leisure vans because we need lots of room for bikes and all of our gear. The airstream would be our ideal van if it wasn’t so poorly built.
We have been camping for about 50 years and when we started we had problems with our tent, then we had problems with our pop up, then we had problems with our Coachman tow behind , now we are in an Air Stream and although we haven't had problems yet, we did put about $5000 in a bank account budgeted for repairs. Keeping camping equipment up and running is just part of the fun we feel. ( Anytime you add complexity to a system expect issues that need addressed ) Don't let the issues get you down, it is part of the camping experience. The only exception is our 2013 Subaru Outback that just keeps going and going and no big problems so far, we love our Subaru.
@@GabrielSBarbaraS I’m glad you haven’t had problems with your airstream yet! That’s good to hear! After ours spending more time in the shop than with us in it we no longer think repairs are fun😅
@@joniboulware1436 as much as it makes me feel better to hear we aren’t just the super unlucky people with all of the issues I hate that there are any issues for anyone. I wish quality control on all RVs was much better so that everyone can enjoy them since they aren’t cheap at all!!
Yes, along with 8 pex line water leaks, our gray water drain wasn’t sealed and leaked. Our black tank drain was sealed. Your behind the panel shots make me believe that no two vans are built out the same.
I have a trailer that has gaps around all Of the plumbing as well. Feels great when I’m in really hot/cold weather and the cabinets are hot/cold to the touch. Such carelessness these days when these are made.
AIRSTREAM IS OWNED by THOR, one of the worst quality RV companies in the USA. Since 2014, 50+% of Airstream owners have had problems and warranty claims. In comparrison, Bowlus and Living Vehicles, in the last 5 years have had "0" warranty claims, Airstreams are overpriced junk, stay away. Sorry, you experienced this, but join the other 50% who also have.
@@petevezmar9821 this was one of the first rangeline vans off the production line… so there were zero videos on this unit when we bought it. Which is why we are trying to get some out so more people can make an informed decision. Heaven forbid someone pays their hard earned money and expects quality for something new from one of the big names in the game.🤦🏼♀️
It is hard to understand a company that buys out reputable and profitable companies, then strip mines them as fast as possible. Apparently some executives must be extremely short- sighted and dumb to think that this business model will remain successful. Hopefully buyers will start boycotting those products soon.
@@karinwest919 if we had any idea of how poor the quality was we definitely wouldn’t have bought one. Unfortunately we were some of the first people to purchase the rangeline and there was no information on it yet. What I can’t believe is how many people ask us questions and we give them very detailed information and then they still go buy one. They are braver than I am😅
This is lawsuit level negligence Was looking hard at a Solis as well as the new Westfalia Wave. I can only hope ya'll can switch to a platform that actually works
@@qtip919 we are stuck with this one for a while longer unfortunately. Not a ton we can do legally, we’ve looked into it a bit. So our aim is to let people know how terrible the quality is so they don’t get themselves stuck in our situation too.
I would say that this level of totally abysmal lack of fit and finish is grounds for lawsuit. Here in South Africa we have a consumer protection authority as well as Bureau of Standards, SABS. It goes a long way to keeping customers happy. Unfortunately a lot of Chinese imports have very shoddy quality and not much recourse for customers unless importers are taken to task by the authorities. Regards from South Africa
@@IO-zz2xy thanks for the kind words. We are in Canada so our lemon laws are a little different. This rv was built in the US and I think it’s easier for them to take legal action there than it is for us.
@@charlevoix418 we bought the one that had the floor plan that best fit our mountain bike lifestyle. As much as we would have loved to buy a Canadian made one there were none that have the big bike garage under the bed and we don’t have the time to do a custom built van at this time. If you’re referring to the pleasure ways because there are not a lot of class b rvs on the van chassis built in Canada… those are geared towards older retired people. We could never do a bathroom at the back or a bed that is also the dinette. So while I appreciate what you are trying to get across with your comment it is not helpful and to think that we didn’t do research into what worked best for us is silly.
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You will find Pleasureway and Leisure Travel Vans to be of much higher build quality, and at a lower price. We came from an Airstream Classic 30 which had wiring that could be best described as a rats nest. The wiring in our Leisure van is all loomed and secured. The loose wiring in the Air Conditioning plenum is proof of horrible quality control. Loose wires eventually rub and fail.
@@camrodger8638 yeah the wiring in the airstream is scary to say the least. We didn’t like the layouts of the pleasure way or leisure vans because we need lots of room for bikes and all of our gear. The airstream would be our ideal van if it wasn’t so poorly built.
We have been camping for about 50 years and when we started we had problems with our tent, then we had problems with our pop up, then we had problems with our Coachman tow behind , now we are in an Air Stream and although we haven't had problems yet, we did put about $5000 in a bank account budgeted for repairs. Keeping camping equipment up and running is just part of the fun we feel. ( Anytime you add complexity to a system expect issues that need addressed ) Don't let the issues get you down, it is part of the camping experience. The only exception is our 2013 Subaru Outback that just keeps going and going and no big problems so far, we love our Subaru.
@@GabrielSBarbaraS I’m glad you haven’t had problems with your airstream yet! That’s good to hear!
After ours spending more time in the shop than with us in it we no longer think repairs are fun😅
Thor is the kiss of death
@@roundstone2020 unfortunately that’s the truth😔
If it makes you feel better we took on a lot of dust in an Allegro Bus. We filled a few holeds but never found all the sources.
@@joniboulware1436 as much as it makes me feel better to hear we aren’t just the super unlucky people with all of the issues I hate that there are any issues for anyone. I wish quality control on all RVs was much better so that everyone can enjoy them since they aren’t cheap at all!!
Yes, along with 8 pex line water leaks, our gray water drain wasn’t sealed and leaked. Our black tank drain was sealed. Your behind the panel shots make me believe that no two vans are built out the same.
@@bajarvcouple oh that’s interesting to know! We thought they would have built them all pretty similar and all had our terrible issues😂
I turned mine back Into the dealer and went with a airstream trailer again. Sorry you’re still having issues
@@Yolotheairstream I didn’t know that was an option😂😂
Nice shop!
I have a trailer that has gaps around all
Of the plumbing as well. Feels great when I’m in really hot/cold weather and the cabinets are hot/cold to the touch. Such carelessness these days when these are made.
@@toejamr1 sorry to hear you’re having issues too. The quality definitely isn’t there anymore!
AIRSTREAM IS OWNED by THOR, one of the worst quality RV companies in the USA. Since 2014, 50+% of Airstream owners have had problems and warranty claims. In comparrison, Bowlus and Living Vehicles, in the last 5 years have had "0" warranty claims, Airstreams are overpriced junk, stay away. Sorry, you experienced this, but join the other 50% who also have.
@@JeremiahHexx yeah, lesson learned the hard way. 😅
With all these videos like this out there for years , any one who buys a New RV now , deserves everything they get !!
@@petevezmar9821 this was one of the first rangeline vans off the production line… so there were zero videos on this unit when we bought it. Which is why we are trying to get some out so more people can make an informed decision.
Heaven forbid someone pays their hard earned money and expects quality for something new from one of the big names in the game.🤦🏼♀️
Used or older RVs are not necessarily better.
It is hard to understand a company that buys out reputable and profitable companies, then strip mines them as fast as possible. Apparently some executives must be extremely short- sighted and dumb to think that this business model will remain successful. Hopefully buyers will start boycotting those products soon.
@@karinwest919 if we had any idea of how poor the quality was we definitely wouldn’t have bought one. Unfortunately we were some of the first people to purchase the rangeline and there was no information on it yet. What I can’t believe is how many people ask us questions and we give them very detailed information and then they still go buy one. They are braver than I am😅
@@darcyandtess , don't blame you at all as names such as Tiffin, Airstream and Jayco were synonymous with quality.
This is lawsuit level negligence
Was looking hard at a Solis as well as the new Westfalia Wave. I can only hope ya'll can switch to a platform that actually works
@@qtip919 we are stuck with this one for a while longer unfortunately. Not a ton we can do legally, we’ve looked into it a bit. So our aim is to let people know how terrible the quality is so they don’t get themselves stuck in our situation too.
I would say that this level of totally abysmal lack of fit and finish is grounds for lawsuit. Here in South Africa we have a consumer protection authority as well as Bureau of Standards, SABS. It goes a long way to keeping customers happy. Unfortunately a lot of Chinese imports have very shoddy quality and not much recourse for customers unless importers are taken to task by the authorities.
Regards from South Africa
@@IO-zz2xy thanks for the kind words. We are in Canada so our lemon laws are a little different. This rv was built in the US and I think it’s easier for them to take legal action there than it is for us.
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😅
Well, try to buy a canadian made class B next time?
@@charlevoix418 we bought the one that had the floor plan that best fit our mountain bike lifestyle. As much as we would have loved to buy a Canadian made one there were none that have the big bike garage under the bed and we don’t have the time to do a custom built van at this time. If you’re referring to the pleasure ways because there are not a lot of class b rvs on the van chassis built in Canada… those are geared towards older retired people. We could never do a bathroom at the back or a bed that is also the dinette. So while I appreciate what you are trying to get across with your comment it is not helpful and to think that we didn’t do research into what worked best for us is silly.