C'est à la fois rassurant et encourageant de voir un patineur de ton niveau se remettre en question. Rassurant parce que l'erreur n'est réservée à personne et encourageant parce que je suis pas près de m'ennuyer et j'aurais toujours quelque chose à travailler ou faire travailler à l'entraînement.
I can do this cornering technique decently when I'm going slowly, but once I start going fast it gets really difficult to maintain! Practice, practice... I've also noticed that I'm quite bad about landing with my back wheel first when doing crossovers, and I often land my skate too hard. Another problem I have is that if I extend my left leg during the underpush my ankle often collapses and I lose the grip on my wheels. So many things to work on!
I'd really love to see a similar video but on a banked track, for whatever reason my left skate is much much sketchier on a banked curve than on the flat.
You said in a previous video in the tutorial playlist that you should cross over with the right foot (outside skate) close to the left (inside skate). I believe you did a drill where you clip the front wheel of the opposite skate before placing it down. Correct me if I'm wrong but that appears to contradict the idea of grabbing extra track with the cross over steps, it seems that the length of the push depends on the length (laterally) of the push on the previous step. What do you think about this ? .... Is it better to have a longer leg position on contact and small pushes (more glide even since you can press harder with straighter legs) using momentum to ground you into the turn, or is it better to do the opposite and take bigger pushes grabbing as much track as possible placing your foot down under the centre of mass i.e more under your hips and do longer leg drives outwards? ...... Great videos btw
Hi thanks for the technical comment ilove those. So about the 1st point let's say. The drill of clip/hit the skate from right leg is correct...but normally i never say to land far inside to grab more ground with the right leg ....but i say you can grab more ground with the left one at landing. For the second point... i think we have to split it in 2 point...long push in distance and long push in time. It s possible to have a long push in distance with a short push in time...And the opposite. Normally i always look for the grip/pressure and adapt the lenght (distance) of my push with it. When the grip start to disapear for me it s a non sense to keep putting power in it. SO if a skater can keep grip and push long then its perfect. Also i try to have mainly a long push in time. I believe more in the pushing time actually. A short pushing time is a symptom of non hability to create grip/pressure....a long push in time...with a short distance push is a nice quality from a skater to create speed with little effort.
@@ThePascalbriand Thank you for answering, much appreciated your answer makes a lot of sense to me 👍I will endeavour to incorporate that into my skating. The last bit fits nicely with the "target theory" you were explaining in another video....... Also I've been wondering about the shoulders and hip position around the corners. I've been told to stay square but am I supposed to be square to the angle I'm leaning at, or square/parallel to the floor? If it's the floor how do I lean into the turn without twisting, which I've been told not to do?
E4zyp34zyl3m0nsq33ZY square is probably parallele to the floor with hip and shoulder... it’s done with hip specially to keep th epressure on the outside skate . If you lean and lift outside hip then you loose pressure on outside skate. Hip hike is a good exercice for’this :-) i plan to video this but didn’t did yet cause busy with new job
@@ThePascalbriand Ok, I think I get how that works. I look forward to you getting the chance to make that video 👍lol ... so if I understand correctly you would hip hike the inside hip as you're pushing away on the outside foot to help keep that pressure. would you then let it go slightly when you push underneath with the inside (because it's hard to push away on the same side that's hiked ?) or just hold that hip hiked position the whole way around ? Thanks again btw, very helpful
Adam Antium we need to try to push far ... as long as we have grip... but don’t need to extend totally the leg as when the leg is fully stretch there are no more action possible from the muscles so .... not efficient moment I think
Also, the science behind is well described by the master himself in this clip: th-cam.com/video/gFUDzAOWgWs/w-d-xo.html It talks about skating in a straight line but the same applies for corner technique. If you extend your pushing legs too long, you simply lose power.
Hi Pascal, yet another great video! Question, I have developed a bad habit in the cross over. When lifting the left skate I'm hitting the back wheel of my right skate? This has caused me to fall a few times. Can you advise me of something to try to stop this? Thanks from Australia!
Mark Bryant hi ... yes that is quite a bad habit :-) not cool to crash because of this. It happen to me when I went to 100 to 110 and from 110 to 125 cause the pathway of my leg needed to change from few millimeter. Only way I found was to repeat at slow speed those circle and put all my focus on this moment to over control it ... it took a while.
Pascal - any thoughts about the gillet jaunes? In winter I'm going to cross-ski .. but it's still the same technique like on roller-skates I guess - just with a double-push after the push. I will see the difference between on roller-ski or rollerblade with stcks .. as on snow :)
Pascal I have doubt about how to use the shoulders in the corner, I have been tought that I must look inside in the corners and cross my upper body inside too. But recently i heard some comments that says that I should lean my left hip to inside but that is contradictory because to make that I must point my shoulders more into the direction of travel than to the inside. Can you give my some light about this? When I see you I see that your shoulders points to the direction of travel
I noticed that the other chap had straight left foot where as pascal had much more angle ..... would this change the distance between legs at crossover?
Your training is awesome, we are learning a lot my daughter is also do skating.
C'est à la fois rassurant et encourageant de voir un patineur de ton niveau se remettre en question. Rassurant parce que l'erreur n'est réservée à personne et encourageant parce que je suis pas près de m'ennuyer et j'aurais toujours quelque chose à travailler ou faire travailler à l'entraînement.
thanks for the explanation! We do these circle drills every day in my indoor skating practice. They're quite helpful! ^_^
Very detailed instructional film
Thank you thank you keep up the great work sir👈🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Thanks!!! Amazing video!!n
Excellent décorticage, merci!
Perfection at it’s best 💚
I can do tight turns fine crossing over but it is wider corners I struggle with..
I can do this cornering technique decently when I'm going slowly, but once I start going fast it gets really difficult to maintain! Practice, practice... I've also noticed that I'm quite bad about landing with my back wheel first when doing crossovers, and I often land my skate too hard. Another problem I have is that if I extend my left leg during the underpush my ankle often collapses and I lose the grip on my wheels. So many things to work on!
I'd really love to see a similar video but on a banked track, for whatever reason my left skate is much much sketchier on a banked curve than on the flat.
wow!, very great technique!....very nice to see Xiao Yao Lin, he has a really smooth skating, xd
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Lin's corner technique look like short track crossover.He focus on left leg push straight when you do crossover.
You said in a previous video in the tutorial playlist that you should cross over with the right foot (outside skate) close to the left (inside skate). I believe you did a drill where you clip the front wheel of the opposite skate before placing it down. Correct me if I'm wrong but that appears to contradict the idea of grabbing extra track with the cross over steps, it seems that the length of the push depends on the length (laterally) of the push on the previous step. What do you think about this ? .... Is it better to have a longer leg position on contact and small pushes (more glide even since you can press harder with straighter legs) using momentum to ground you into the turn, or is it better to do the opposite and take bigger pushes grabbing as much track as possible placing your foot down under the centre of mass i.e more under your hips and do longer leg drives outwards? ...... Great videos btw
Hi thanks for the technical comment ilove those. So about the 1st point let's say. The drill of clip/hit the skate from right leg is correct...but normally i never say to land far inside to grab more ground with the right leg ....but i say you can grab more ground with the left one at landing.
For the second point... i think we have to split it in 2 point...long push in distance and long push in time. It s possible to have a long push in distance with a short push in time...And the opposite.
Normally i always look for the grip/pressure and adapt the lenght (distance) of my push with it. When the grip start to disapear for me it s a non sense to keep putting power in it. SO if a skater can keep grip and push long then its perfect. Also i try to have mainly a long push in time. I believe more in the pushing time actually. A short pushing time is a symptom of non hability to create grip/pressure....a long push in time...with a short distance push is a nice quality from a skater to create speed with little effort.
@@ThePascalbriand Thank you for answering, much appreciated your answer makes a lot of sense to me 👍I will endeavour to incorporate that into my skating. The last bit fits nicely with the "target theory" you were explaining in another video....... Also I've been wondering about the shoulders and hip position around the corners. I've been told to stay square but am I supposed to be square to the angle I'm leaning at, or square/parallel to the floor? If it's the floor how do I lean into the turn without twisting, which I've been told not to do?
E4zyp34zyl3m0nsq33ZY square is probably parallele to the floor with hip and shoulder... it’s done with hip specially to keep th epressure on the outside skate . If you lean and lift outside hip then you loose pressure on outside skate.
Hip hike is a good exercice for’this :-) i plan to video this but didn’t did yet cause busy with new job
@@ThePascalbriand Ok, I think I get how that works. I look forward to you getting the chance to make that video 👍lol ... so if I understand correctly you would hip hike the inside hip as you're pushing away on the outside foot to help keep that pressure. would you then let it go slightly when you push underneath with the inside (because it's hard to push away on the same side that's hiked ?) or just hold that hip hiked position the whole way around ? Thanks again btw, very helpful
I liked it first 😊😊
How important is fully streching out the pushing leg?
Few people actually do it in a race but should we do it in training?
Adam Antium we need to try to push far ... as long as we have grip... but don’t need to extend totally the leg as when the leg is fully stretch there are no more action possible from the muscles so .... not efficient moment I think
@@ThePascalbriand alright, thank you!
Make the right skate push longer than the left skate when turning left.
Also, the science behind is well described by the master himself in this clip: th-cam.com/video/gFUDzAOWgWs/w-d-xo.html It talks about skating in a straight line but the same applies for corner technique. If you extend your pushing legs too long, you simply lose power.
I tried transferring my short track technique on wheels. Very similar to the example video.
Danny Khounthavong yes i think this guy also do some short track
Hi Pascal, yet another great video! Question, I have developed a bad habit in the cross over. When lifting the left skate I'm hitting the back wheel of my right skate? This has caused me to fall a few times. Can you advise me of something to try to stop this? Thanks from Australia!
Mark Bryant hi ... yes that is quite a bad habit :-) not cool to crash because of this. It happen to me when I went to 100 to 110 and from 110 to 125 cause the pathway of my leg needed to change from few millimeter. Only way I found was to repeat at slow speed those circle and put all my focus on this moment to over control it ... it took a while.
Pascal - any thoughts about the gillet jaunes?
In winter I'm going to cross-ski .. but it's still the same technique like on roller-skates I guess - just with a double-push after the push. I will see the difference between on roller-ski or rollerblade with stcks .. as on snow :)
Tuxli von Chur cool you go ski... enjoy :-) gilet jaune :-) are jaune :-)
Sir some times my right leg comes front in corners
Hi Paskal, During turning, should we look outside/ Exit to avoid shoulder twist or we should look Inner side for better visibility
Mostly you will look a bit inside but in racing you have to move regularly the head to look in many direction still to take informations
Great video! Btw, what do you think of these boots?
im in love with those boots. reaalllyyy good feeling
Pascal I have doubt about how to use the shoulders in the corner, I have been tought that I must look inside in the corners and cross my upper body inside too. But recently i heard some comments that says that I should lean my left hip to inside but that is contradictory because to make that I must point my shoulders more into the direction of travel than to the inside. Can you give my some light about this? When I see you I see that your shoulders points to the direction of travel
I noticed that the other chap had straight left foot where as pascal had much more angle ..... would this change the distance between legs at crossover?
The Taipeh guy is definitely able to flex his hips more..
Are you in Taipei?
郭Ming no no unfortunately I’m not ... but I wish I was :-)
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