Was Israel Polytheistic? With Dr. Kipp Davis

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  • Dive into the little-known polytheistic past of Ancient Israel with Dr. Kip Davis! In this episode, we unravel the historical and mythological tapestry woven into the Hebrew Bible. Uncover religious facts, debunk sacred myths, and explore an era where multiple gods reigned supreme. Join us for a historical journey spanning the Iron Age to the late monarchies, challenging everything you thought you knew about biblical times!
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    • Discussion of polytheistic worship
    • Women's roles in ancient cults
    • Commoners' religious practices
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  • @chitzkoi
    @chitzkoi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This is my FAVOURITE topic and has been the single greatest influence for me on my intellectual exploration of the things I was raised with. I wasn't raised as a fundie at all but I enjoy Christianity immensely more in light of the ancient Semitic pantheon.
    I've watched Kipp's videos and he's a pretty unique fellow. His work is excellent but seeing it delivered with an 00s nu metal styling is bizarrely hilarious.
    I look forward to buying this course.

  • @petergrant2561
    @petergrant2561 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    To me it seems that the Old Testament is not so much about monotheism as that 'our God' is the best. To me the context clearly acknowledges that there are a number of gods. The doctrine is not so much that there is only 1 god, rather that, 'our God' is the most important and the 1 you should worship to the exclusion of the other gods.

    • @Justin_Beaver564
      @Justin_Beaver564 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think the main reason they moved towards monotheism after the destruction of the first temple was to preserve Jewish identity. This was a group of people that had been conquered over and over again and they needed a single deity to focus on in order to preserve an identity.

    • @will2003michael2003
      @will2003michael2003 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Justin_Beaver564 could be, I don’t think they were as deliberate though. I am guessing that during captivity, it was only those who had a particularly strong religious fervor who survived and returned. The rest were assimilated. Perhaps only the followers of Yahweh returned.

    • @davidk7529
      @davidk7529 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @kungpaochicken5768
      That’s actually a more insightful take than most people may realize. Even in more recent history, Koreans did something very similar during the imperial occupation by Japan, except that they instead established a united _ethnic_ identity in order to more effectively resist a common enemy at the time. The idea of a pure Korean ethnicity is still prevalent among older generations in Korea today, long after its purpose has lost all relevance, in spite of ample knowledge of constant intermarriage over the centuries. It may be a completely different element, but the purpose is essentially the same. It would seem that people tend toward these notions when they feel there is an urgent need for unity at all costs.

    • @Justin_Beaver564
      @Justin_Beaver564 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidk7529 Yup, every tribe, city state and kingdom in the ancient world was identified by a different patron god or deity. What better way to unite a group of people than to unite them under the same god?

    • @doloresabernathy9809
      @doloresabernathy9809 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly, this guy is arguing against a straw man. The Hebrew Bible continuously acknowledges that Israelites are worshipping other gods - but asserts that is evil and should be suppressed. The Bible is advocacy for the “official religion” that admits that there is much dissent from it.

  • @Ayusisi
    @Ayusisi ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, I am glad to see Dr. Kipp in Digital Hammurabi👍

  • @waderogers
    @waderogers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The passages in Jeremiah 44 and 2 Kings 23 talk about many cultic objects including the Asherah pole, chariot wheels being dedicated to the sun god, 'cakes' being made with the image of Asherah on it, wine being poured out, incense being burned, etc. It also mentions Ba'al worship, the Asherah pole in the temple, people burning incense to the sun, the moon, the stars and 'all the stary hosts' which might refer to the moving planets which appeared to be alive in the sky because the background stars didn't move. 2 Kings also mentions male shrine prostitutes that were IN the Lord's temple (likely either for Ba'al worship) where a 'molek' or 'mlk' in the Hebrew sacrifice was made by 'passing your children thru the fire to molek. This might explain why the molek sacrifice of passing children thru the fire in Leviticus 18:21 is followed by the proscription against 'laying with a man like a man lays with a woman', found in the next verse in Leviticu 18:22. The fact that male shrine prostitutes are mentioned in the same passage as Ba'al worship would explain why Leviticus prohibited 'passing your children thru the fire to Molek' in one verse and then the very next verse, it says that men shouldn't have sex with other men. What I think is being said in Leviticus is that the men of Israel shouldn't participate in the cultic performative rituals (child sacrifice and fertility sex with male prostitutes) that are associated with Ba'al worship...

  • @danbreeden8738
    @danbreeden8738 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the expertise that digital hammerabi brings to these issues abd questions

  • @elihinze3161
    @elihinze3161 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fascinating interview! I'll definitely be checking out the course

  • @vidarlystadjohansen9829
    @vidarlystadjohansen9829 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    just bumping your algorithm, great channel and guest

  • @mr.monster91666
    @mr.monster91666 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would love to know the connections between The Phoenician gods and the Jewish God.

  • @forresterickson6225
    @forresterickson6225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Megan I suggest you edit the video information to include your fill name to help search engines index off of you more reliably. Review all your videos for uniform usage of the names of participants and visibility to and links to Digital Hammurabi.
    Hope this helps.

  • @seakayak4425
    @seakayak4425 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was fascinating

  • @pragmaticcrystal
    @pragmaticcrystal ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you 💛

  • @Armyjay
    @Armyjay 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great guest.

  • @jennifersilves4195
    @jennifersilves4195 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dr. Kipp with no hat? Wild!

  • @billymanilli
    @billymanilli ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Is it true that the ancient Canaanites carried all of their instruments of worship around in Ba'al Sacks?

    • @davidk7529
      @davidk7529 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @blackfeathercrafts
    @blackfeathercrafts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Popped in to say hi!!

    • @DigitalHammurabi
      @DigitalHammurabi  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hi!!!!!!!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @blackfeathercrafts
      @blackfeathercrafts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DigitalHammurabi I hope all is well !!

  • @ibear2554
    @ibear2554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @inspiring philosophy

  • @forresterickson6225
    @forresterickson6225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do we find and read the text referred to at 5:32?

  • @JosephusZeno
    @JosephusZeno 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @Darisiabgal7573
    @Darisiabgal7573 ปีที่แล้ว

    great

  • @TheCharonic
    @TheCharonic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm interested in this deity DuDu, potentially DuDul, possibly related to TuTu (? Marduk), and the connection to the name David. Lugal DuDul, from the 36th Zame Hymn, is worshipped in Iš, a location attested at Ebla, and also at Ebla, we have the first attestation of a name like Israel, as Iš-ra-il. Being that the iš logogram is eperum (hapiru, habbiru, Hebrew... which is why dust is so prevalent in the Hebrew scriptures, with characters even named Epher, for example), as well as šadu ("mountain" and possibly related to Shadday), as well as ṣihu ("laughter," cognate to thw word from which Isaac was derived), and being that the term El Shadday and the name Isaac are used in the same chapter of Genesis, and Abraham is the first of the haEbri...
    Curious.

    • @TheCharonic
      @TheCharonic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also, is there anywhere I can read some analysis on the consonantal dissimilarity between the Hebrew word for ladder, sullam, and the Akkadian word for ladder, simmiltu, with consideration of the consonantal similarity between the Hebrew word for ladder, sullam, and ṣallummû, the Akkadian word for comet. In the context of the single usage of sullam a comet makes sense as the observed phenomenon.

  • @forresterickson6225
    @forresterickson6225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any idea how to get a poster / reproduction of the Lion behind Megan and the story behind it?

  • @donnalowe9334
    @donnalowe9334 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting to note the Sky last night New Moon had -
    The woman - the dragon - the Child - or SUN - SON being taken up to the CREATOR.
    THE WOMAN - SHE being Anat - Aanath - Athena - The GODDESS of Heaven =
    Mary (meaning of Mary is Priestess ) Magdalene -
    (The Magdelene was actually called / named Farah - from a very wealthy family
    and SHE studied at the Egypt School of Mystery with THE MASTER Yahshua / Yah / Jesus)
    SHE also = Esther -& Joan de Arc
    [ there were 3 One Magdalene, & 2 exact clones sent - they all died to save the country]
    (Joann in Polish is an quite interesting study as Joan - Jo-an - Joann Joanna are nick names actually)
    & also LADY GODIVA or Lady GOD DIVA etc. etc. etc. to serve the poor. Heaven CARES!
    SHE who is part of THE TREE OF LIFE [ another excellent study THE TREE OF LIFE]
    as one of the first Reflection LIGHTS created.
    SHE - being Jophiel / Haniel the # 7 & # 6 - the colors Yellow or Green.
    Such Names are to show THE OFFICE held.
    Like a name put on a door here into an OFFICE such as Manager.
    Or, Assistant Manager.
    SHE is also Commander over 53 Legions of Angels in the Army of CREATOR
    serving with Archangel Michael and HIS Legions of Angels in the Army of CREATOR.
    We were told the ELECT will be here in the last days. Also, the ELECT does incarnate to make sure any 'promise' given is done correctly and at the correct Divine timing.
    IF any human being were to engage in keeping the 'promises', they would need be judged while the ELECT was JUDGED before, therefore not judged. As the CREATOR is Fair & Loving it is up to the ELECT.
    Thank you for your excellent video's. Much love....

  • @integrationalpolytheism
    @integrationalpolytheism 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:14 just a quick question. Is it Dr Megan Lewis and Dr Joshua Bowen actually?
    If so, then why doesn't the card say so? Or am I wrong in thinking that Megan Lewis has a doctorate?

    • @DigitalHammurabi
      @DigitalHammurabi  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're wrong :) I left grad school before I completed my Ph.D.

    • @integrationalpolytheism
      @integrationalpolytheism 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DigitalHammurabi you rebel! :)
      Well, I've learned something today!

  • @keithbaker5293
    @keithbaker5293 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What's up from Holy Koolaid!

  • @jamiegallier2106
    @jamiegallier2106 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤

  • @Dillenger.69
    @Dillenger.69 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    well, yeah. JHVH was just some mountain god who got too big for their britches

    • @bobvail1000
      @bobvail1000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Man, I hate arrogant gods who think they're god.

  • @considermycat
    @considermycat ปีที่แล้ว

    “Shut up and take my money!” &c. &c.

  • @BlueBeeMCMLXI
    @BlueBeeMCMLXI ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such ripping enthusiasm.

  • @therogerseses
    @therogerseses ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does this include the Jewish mercernaries on the ile of Elephantine. Btw, they sold chametz at Pesach

  • @ready1fire1aim1
    @ready1fire1aim1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The word Elohim changed over time. In Bronze Age Israel Elohim meant "Sons of God", whereas in Iron Age Israel (when the Yahwist uses Elohim) it means gods/goddesses.

    • @DrKippDavis
      @DrKippDavis ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No, I don't think so. While I would agree that at one time "Elohim" meant "gods," this meaning most likely passed out of use during the Iron Age. It is clearly, simply with reference to "god" throughout the Hebrew Bible, and, it never meant "sons of god."

    • @ready1fire1aim1
      @ready1fire1aim1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrKippDavis
      Genesis 1 > Genesis 2
      (Good > Evil)
      God > LORD of God
      (Elohim > Yahweh of Elohim)
      Spirit of God > Spirit of the LORD
      (Ruach Elohim > Ruach Yahweh)
      Usurper: the LORD of God
      Deciever: the LORD your God
      Just as "Ruach Elohim" from Genesis 1 is "Spirit of God" and not "Spirit God", "Yahweh Elohim" from Genesis 2 is "LORD of God" and not "LORD God".
      As if some Yahu from Edom and Seir (judges 5, deut 33) is the LORD of God...
      Seriously, Doc Kill, you can't see the character from Genesis 2 for the usurper/deciever it is?
      Have you noted the differences between usages of Ruach Elohim (Spirit of God) and Ruach Yahweh (Spirit of the LORD) in the OT? They're polar opposite Spirits from polar opposite entities...I can link you a bunch of differences if you'd like.

    • @ready1fire1aim1
      @ready1fire1aim1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @DrKippDavis
      Here are seven differences between "Ruach Elohim" and "Ruach Yahweh" as they appear in the Names of God (NOG) translation of the Bible:
      1. "Ruach Elohim" is first mentioned in Genesis 1:2, where it is translated as "God's Spirit." "Ruach Yahweh" is first mentioned in Judges 3:10, where it is translated as "the LORD's Spirit."
      2. "Ruach Elohim" is used throughout the Old Testament to describe the Spirit of God in general, while "Ruach Yahweh" is often used specifically in reference to the Spirit of God acting in a prophetic or empowering way, as in Judges 14:6 where Samson is "filled with the Spirit of Yahweh" to defeat a lion.
      3. "Ruach Elohim" is sometimes used to describe the breath of life given to all creatures, as in Job 34:14-15 where it says that if God were to "gather back his breath [ruach]," all life would perish. "Ruach Yahweh" is not used in this sense.
      4. In some passages, the two terms are used interchangeably. For example, in Isaiah 61:1, the Spirit of the Lord [Ruach Yahweh] is said to be upon the prophet, while in Ezekiel 11:5, the same phrase is translated as "the Spirit of God [Ruach Elohim] came upon me."
      5. "Ruach Yahweh" is associated with the creation of humans in Genesis 2:7, where it says that Yahweh "breathed the breath [ruach] of life into [Adam's] nostrils." "Ruach Elohim" is not used in this context.
      6. "Ruach Yahweh" is associated with the work of the Messiah in Isaiah 11:2, where it is said that "the Spirit of Yahweh will rest on him." "Ruach Elohim" is not used in this passage.
      7. "Ruach Elohim" is used in the New Testament to refer to the Holy Spirit, as in Luke 3:22 where the Spirit descends on Jesus at his baptism "in bodily form like a dove." "Ruach Yahweh" is not used in the New Testament.
      Here are seven more differences between "Ruach Elohim" and "Ruach Yahweh" in the Names of God (NOG) translation of the Bible:
      1. "Ruach Elohim" is used in Psalm 51:11 where David asks God not to take his Spirit away from him, whereas "Ruach Yahweh" is not used in this context.
      2. "Ruach Yahweh" is associated with dreams and visions in Numbers 12:6, where it says that Yahweh spoke to Moses in a dream and a vision, "but not like [He spoke] to [His] servant Moses, who had a close relationship with [Yahweh]." "Ruach Elohim" is not used in this passage.
      3. "Ruach Elohim" is used in 1 Samuel 10:10 where it says that the Spirit of God came upon Saul and he prophesied along with a group of prophets. "Ruach Yahweh" is not used in this context.
      4. "Ruach Yahweh" is associated with judgment in Isaiah 4:4, where it says that Yahweh will "wash away the filth of Zion's people...by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of burning." "Ruach Elohim" is not used in this context.
      5. "Ruach Elohim" is used in Job 33:4 where Elihu says that "the Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life." "Ruach Yahweh" is not used in this passage.
      6. Ruach Yahweh" is associated with the exodus from Egypt in Isaiah 63:14, where it says that "the Spirit of Yahweh led [the Israelites] through the desert." "Ruach Elohim" is not used in this context.
      7. Ruach Elohim" is used in 1 Corinthians 2:10-11 where Paul speaks of the Holy Spirit revealing God's wisdom to believers. "Ruach Yahweh" is not used in this passage.

    • @wannabe_scholar82
      @wannabe_scholar82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Um Elohim never meant "sons of God" it just means the plural gods or the singular God when used with a singular verb (as in Genesis 1). Sons of God is the word bene elohim (בני האלהים). Also, what do you mean bronze age Isreal? There wasn't really a bronze age Isreal, as they began to form around the end of the bronze age.

    • @wannabe_scholar82
      @wannabe_scholar82 ปีที่แล้ว

      @donkey-headed fraud from Edom and Seir Yes Elohim were sons of El, but you made it seem as if the name Elohim meant Sons of God in which it doesn't. El later became a generic title meaning God but was originally associated with the high God El from Ugarit who had 70 sons, likely where you are getting this notion from. What Iron Age nonsense am I quoting? Be specific, please.

  • @Silvercrypto-xk4zy
    @Silvercrypto-xk4zy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes, the Bible clearly states that the Israelites time and again turned towards many other gods besides the one true God, and it also showed the consequences of that action

    • @davidk7529
      @davidk7529 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes, the currently available version of a carefully contrived collection of heavily redacted religious texts _would_ tell you that, and deliberately leave out all information to the contrary.
      Meanwhile, in terms of the information provided in _this_ video… have you even watched it yet?

  • @pokerface7840
    @pokerface7840 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Israelites" are just people from Canaan who followed a polytheistic religion based on Baal and El but they were taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar. In Mesopotamia, they came in contact with and copied the Sumerian flood myth and the Code of Hammurabi and the story of Sargon the Akkadian but most importantly later on they would take monotheism from the Persians.
    It is in Mesopotamia that the Bible and the Talmud were first compiled and Judaism was created. Some of these people would return to Canaan where they found other Canaanites who had not been captives of Babylon, they called them "Samaritans."
    As a result the Jews had two major traditions they had to amalgamate: the Moses out of Egypt origin and the Abraham out of Mesopotamia origin.
    I am not a historian but I believe this best explains the weird phenomenon of the Jewish people and religion.

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a non-academic that's pretty much my understanding as well. As best I understand it though the Zoroastrian/Mesopotamian influence was overwhelmingly dominant (the merger in Canaan wasn't a meeting of equals).

  • @marcorelho
    @marcorelho ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Megan, you're just great. Congrats. I've got a question for you: please, answer me: have you made a video about the mythical life o Jesus. so-called Christ?

  • @TupacMakaveli1996
    @TupacMakaveli1996 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wait at 9:15 bro is romanticizing polytheism ??

  • @DM-zq8qy
    @DM-zq8qy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How many gods has man created? And killed most of them?

    • @davidk7529
      @davidk7529 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They all die when their usefulness expires… likewise, Yahweh’s days are numbered.
      It’s all just people making age-old excuses to glorify themselves anyway.

  • @kkKey-py7lk
    @kkKey-py7lk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joe coming from Ibrahim and he son Sargon of akkidin

  • @garyjaensch7143
    @garyjaensch7143 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes it is true that the Israelites at different time’s worshipped other gods, The true God of Israel told us about it,
    This is the same God that told us Orion has gravity 2600 odd years before man found out,
    Job 38:31
    “Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?”
    Isaiah 2:8
    “Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:”
    The same true God told us that the kingdom of Tyre was not that Little Rock near modern Sidon everyone presumes is Tyre, but a kingdom that went all the way to Syria, that the greatest King of the time Nebuchadnezzar could not defeat for 13 years, everyone forgets that sea levels are rising since the worldwide flood, and there is underwater archeology all around the world, including part of true ancient Tyre in Syria,
    Acts 21:3
    “Now when we had discovered Cyprus, we left it on the left hand, and sailed into Syria, and landed at Tyre: for there the ship was to unlade her burden.”
    It’s understandable that people dont believe in the true God of Israel, the Bible clearly explains that as well,
    What’s not understandable is everyone accepts the billions of dollars natural history museums , universities, governments, Smithsonians, most media, spend trying to say nothing exploded, became a rock, then crawled out of the sea , became an ape, then us, when the most certain scientific fact on earth is that life always comes from life .

    • @DM-zq8qy
      @DM-zq8qy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The “true God” myth that Genesis says “created” fruit trees BEFORE creating the sun? Genesis also describes countless murders and other immoral acts ordered by that god. Or do you trust other sources to describe the “true god?”

    • @davidk7529
      @davidk7529 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Did you seriously just comment without even watching the video…?
      You’re quoting from the collection of books that have already been shown to be a pitifully inadequate and purely biased source of information on the people and religions of the time.
      Even in those books that you’re relying on, the terms used indicate that this “one true god” merely demanded that status for himself from among the other gods, and the Israelites went on to use that claim to impose their own dominance over the nations around them… which was not even a novel strategy. Watch some of the other videos on this channel to learn about the other cases of monotheistic claims and how it gained popularity.

  • @jamesstaplesv
    @jamesstaplesv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Josiah sucked, he went Anti kaneh Bosm, yhwh was not pleased.

  • @austinrwann5509
    @austinrwann5509 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tell us about freemasons in ancient times 🙏

  • @mr.graves2867
    @mr.graves2867 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are; therefore, we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different Persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean the Trinity is not true or that it is not based on the teachings of the Bible.The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God-three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who are God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity:
    1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).
    2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity.
    In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus’ baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are other examples of passages that present three distinct Persons in the Trinity.
    3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also the other instances when Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinity-the Father.
    4) Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16).
    5) There is subordination within the Trinity. Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any Person of the Trinity. This is simply something our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see Luke 22:42, John 5:36, John 20:21, and 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see John 14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7, and especially John 16:13-14.
    6) The individual members of the Trinity have different tasks. The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); salvation (John 3:16-17); and Jesus’ human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father initiates all of these things.
    The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); divine revelation (John 1:1, 16:12-15; Matthew 11:27; Revelation 1:1); and salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.
    The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and Jesus’ works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus, the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit.
    There have been many attempts to develop illustrations of the Trinity. However, none of the popular illustrations are completely accurate. The egg (or apple) fails in that the shell, white, and yolk are parts of the egg, not the egg in themselves, just as the skin, flesh, and seeds of the apple are parts of it, not the apple itself. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not parts of God; each of them is God. The water illustration is somewhat better, but it still fails to adequately describe the Trinity. Liquid, vapor, and ice are forms of water. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not forms of God, each of them is God. So, while these illustrations may give us a picture of the Trinity, the picture is not entirely accurate. An infinite God cannot be fully described by a finite illustration.
    The doctrine of the Trinity has been a divisive issue throughout the entire history of the Christian church. While the core aspects of the Trinity are clearly presented in God’s Word, some of the side issues are not as explicitly clear. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God-but there is only one God. That is the biblical doctrine of the Trinity. Beyond that, the issues are, to a certain extent, debatable and non-essential. Rather than attempting to fully define the Trinity with our finite human minds, we would be better served by focusing on God’s greatness and His infinitely higher nature. “Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?” (Romans 11:33-34).

  • @RetiredVet1
    @RetiredVet1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a great explanation about why God sent the Israelites into slavery multiple times.

    • @joachim847
      @joachim847 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      lol

    • @TheDanEdwards
      @TheDanEdwards ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@joachim847 "lol" - understandable. Yet the original poster's claim is not inconsistent with what Dr. Davis described. One can fully accept the archeological record that the (local) Iron-Age "Israel" continued with the polytheism of bronze-age Canaan, and believe that is why the one god which was a real god, YHWH, decided to destroy the iron-age Israelite kingdoms.

    • @joachim847
      @joachim847 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheDanEdwards Yeah, I wasn't mocking the post or anything. I just thought it was funny. While I'm here, allow me to plug Margaret Barker's work. Her reconstruction of first-temple Hebrew religion is astounding.

  • @federicomandorino8023
    @federicomandorino8023 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *palestine

  • @AlinBossu158
    @AlinBossu158 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first religions were monotheist, like it would matter if Israel was polytheistic, it doesn't

    • @DM-zq8qy
      @DM-zq8qy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      How does anyone know? Genesis describes trees being “created” before the sun. And mass murders commonly caused by “a god of love?” Really?

    • @AlinBossu158
      @AlinBossu158 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DM-zq8qy blasphemist, and the genesis days aren't literal 24 hour days, it all happend at once

    • @alexhajnal107
      @alexhajnal107 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Do you have any evidence to support that claim? The oldest recorded religion is that of Sumer, dating from before 2900 BCE, and is polytheistic. The earliest monotheistic religion that I'm aware of is Zoroastrianism which, in its monotheistic form, dates to ca. 1000 BCE (this religion is believed to have been a revision of an earlier polytheistic one).