@@wrist-rockets I regretted not buying the orange Gem Clips back when I ordered my Falcon 2. That shipping cost from the USA is more expensive than the slingshot lmao! All the way to my country Malaysia, can't afford to buy again. You really care for your customers, it's rare to find a company who actually answers all questions thru email. And the only slingshot manufacturer who accepts the reality of flat bands from Tex-Shooter, and this slingshot is the result... Thanks for your service many years ago!
@@LKH9Channel That is frustrating and with shipping becoming so expensive it is hard for us to help from our end. Should you ever order a Wrist-Rocket again we will include the orange Gems no charge. Please cut and past this in the order notation field. We hope to have a new model out next year so stay tuned. Stay safe- Chuck
The slingshot was my very first projectile launcher. I’m now 41 and have always been with a wrist rocket. Your video popped up and I was curious. I could never explain as you do as I never gave it though.👍👍👍
The new flatland models are fantastic. My personal favorite is the Falcon-X. Hope you get a chance to shoot one. The Pipper sight is a fantastic option and the new 12mm Clod Poppers are economical and accurate. Shoot safe, Chuck Saunders
Thanks dude! I just bought a wrist rocket, remembering the havoc I caused as a kid with one. I am scared of it. Your safety tips have made me a bit more confident to try it out.
Ian - Thanks for the comments. I too grew up making lots of bad shooting decisions so I know where you are coming from. The videos are a good tool and each time you watch one you may catch a subtle element of good form missed on the first view. Shooting a Wrist-Rocket is a great sport but it does take discipline to shoot safely and responsibly. We are here to help so reach out via our contact page at wristrocket.com should you have any questions. Keep Rocketing.... Chuck Saunders
I design, build and shoot, and watched this because I've several types of starships made, a couple of really different animals that are so radical, they have different shooting characteristics. Nice 101, and your way of discovering the dominant eye was great, even if you already know your own. I know mine because I began naturally using an 'open eyes' method, where once I acquire my target, I pre-stretch on the lift (in case a band may break, pull my anchor point WHILST moving my slingsight just below my target and release. What occurs naturally (after initial practice), is the dominant eye will be the one on the target. I believe this method keeps situational awareness, balance, and peripheral vision maxed out, even though your mind is ignoring the weaker eye as you shoot. I'd respect your opinion on that!
Great feedback Gary. A friend made a starship for me so I know they are a different animal. We are always trying to find better ways of teaching new shooters and It is rewarding to help shooters no matter what brand they shoot. Always wear safety glasses, shoot safe, honorably and well, Chuck Saunders
Very useful tips, much appreciated. I recently got a Barnett Black Widow, using marbles as ammo. However I was obviously doing it wrong because I was not using the archer stance, I was standing facing the target, needless to say I was not consistently accurate. Seems I was also holding the pouch wrong too, I was pinching it so both sides of the pouch met in front of the ammo. I'm off to test these tips out. Btw, I do use safety glasses, the kind used with weed whacker etc. thanks again.
Might I suggest you try actually holding the ball, rather than the pouch in front of the ball. And marbles are slow, with a lot of drop, and inconsistent imo. Once you try steel (most use 3/8), you'll give the marbles away!
Great video, you have a good style of teaching and a smooth voice. You shouldn’t draw to your face in my opinion. Draw while pointing the slingshot down and then bring it to your face. If a band is going to break it will likely be during the draw and you don’t want to get slapped in the face by it, especially since you’re going to ignore this man and shoot without safety glasses.
Yeah, Fowler's Makery and Mischief, says that in a lot of his videos about slingshots. Always draw towards the ground first, then once you know the draw is safe, pull the slighshot up from the floor/ground. That way if anything snaps, or you lose grip or anything, you don't hurt yourself or others and always draw in a safe direction too, same as a firearm.
Drawing to the face is dangerous especially with a heavy compound bow and a mechanical release. A wild fire into the ground can also be dangerous so I still like aiming first then draw. As far as drawing to the face... drawing an inch off the face before settling into the anchor is a good practice. I appreciate the focus on safety. A lot of shooters still don't wear safety glasses I hope more shooters will encourage others to do so.
With firearms ammo scarce I'm looking at a slingshot. Good vidio. I've seen some vidios where the shooter brings the pouch well behind the face for higher velocity. What are your thoughts? I think your way would be more accurate sighting.
We don't recommend pulling past the face. Though there are great shooters on both sides of this issue we feel the cheek anchor is the safest and generally the most accurate. Our bands and pouch are not designed for semi or full butterfly style shooting so do not use them that way. If you want more speed the alternative is to shoot with the Pro-X... th-cam.com/video/s60UnWBnZ5s/w-d-xo.html
I'm so glad you liked it. This year, we want to update and redo many of our videos, and there are several major product announcements coming. I hope you stay tuned.
Please can you help me? I am all new to this. I want to know exactly WHAT am I aiming with? The center of the ~Y~ ? or the bands? How do I hold it to aim? I am dying to learn!
U hold the slingshot gangster style, use the top band n tip of top fork for aiming. Consistency is the key. U gotta keep the pouch at same place every single shot, cheek weld n use the slingshot to aim
BB Wiebz is right, you use outside edge/tip of the top fork as your sight and if you look at some slingshots on Amazon, you will see that many of them, have a built in metal sight reticle, fiber optic sights (or even a laser) on one side or both (for right and left handed). There is a great set of beginner shooting videos here on TH-cam from a champion slingshot expert, Fowler's Makery and Mischief. Dude is amazingly accurate and shows you how you can be and teaches literally everything about slingshots. Wrist rockets like these are great slingshots for stability and high tension pulling (cause of the arm brace), but the tube bands, really need to go. They are not as accurate as flat bands, harder for beginners to use and get good with and frustrating for beginners. You can however, convert any wrist rocket style slingshot like this (wireframe they call them cause of the round steel forks), into a flat bad shooter very easily. He shows you how to do it right, how to tie your own bands, make your own bands from flat sheets of rubber etc. literally everything you can imagine with slingshots.
So basically the same as a bow grip. No iron grip necessary, let the handle sit in the crook between the thumb and forefinger, makes sense. This prevents twisting by accident and misalignment which can derail a compound bow and hurt you and I would imagine even though derailing a slingshot is impossible, it will still throw off your accuracy and is dangerous.
Exactly.The new Falcon-X with its palm improves the shooter feel even more than the old Falcon-2. The patented and adjustable palm plate comfortably cradles the hand while providing an extra level of security when shooting with the open grip style.
Safety goggles are a must for any type of shooting. Firearms, bb guns, throwing knives/things, paintball guns, etc. Unless you want to have eyeball soup. No one wants eyeball soup.
I chuckle when people bother with knife throwing. In a real scenario, you won't be relaxed as in practice, will miss, and you've basically said, "Here's a weapon you can use!"
@@garychandler4296 Yeah, lol, they are pretty useless IMO. The penetration is horrid and useless, even at close range and you can't whip them harder, they perform worse that way and tend to bounce off things and not orient themselves proper to hit point first and stick. Throwing axes on the other hand, oh yeah, those are effective and mean. Good penetration and kinetic energy to them and easy to master throwing, they are almost a no brainer. The ONLY effective throwing knives, are heavy ones and experts only use heavy ones. They never throw those light ones, they are garbage.
Great question! To answer accurately we need to break down what is involved in speed. 1) Draw length 2) size or weight density of ammo 3) weight of pouch 4) Temperature 5) Band material 6) Band thickness 7) forward reach and finally 8) Band length or power setting 1) The longer the draw length the more distance the ammo has to accelerate during launch. For safety and accuracy reasons we recommend anchoring the pouch in the hollow of your cheek. Because some people have longer arms we use a shooting machine to set the same draw length for each model. The length we use is 29 inches from the saddle of the handle to the anchor point. 2) We use steel 44 caliber ammo to do our testing. We do this because we produce bands that are powerful enough for hunting yet pull easy enough for accurate shooting. Some people shoot the lightest ammo they can find which will give you great speed but it does not have anything to do with band efficiency. 3) Weight of pouch. Our pouches are made of a light but strong synthetic materiel that can fire a 50 cal steel ammo thousands of times without failure. The pouch is lighter than the big box brand China made slingshots but not as light as pouches made for small tournament rounds. 4) The hotter the bands the more efficiently they will shoot. Some enthusiast achieve fantastic speeds by heating the bands in an oven (warning don't do this or you may melt or damage the plastic parts) but this is not realistic. We do our testing at normal indoor temps. 5) Each type of band material will generate a different speed. We use black natural latex rubber which has great durability but our fastest bands are our Twin Natural Tapered band called TNT. 6) The thinner the bands the more efficient that is why we only use super thin twin bands per side. The reason this is true has to do with the long elastic molecules and covalent bonds but that can be covered at another time. 7) Don't confuse draw length with forward reach. Forward reach is the distance in front of the handles saddle that the bands attach. Thus the Falcon-X has more forward reach than our Wing and the Pro-X has even more forward reach. The longer the forward reach the more speed potential. 8) Wrist-Rocket flatbands come extra long so they can be used on virtually any slingshot made for flatbands. The advantage is you will have plenty of band length even if you have a hug draw length. The down side is that some people don't realize the power setting needs to be adjusted. On a side note we have just released a new video on how to attach our bands and will soon release a new video on setting the power. Basically we like the bands set at about 70 to 80 % stack and the new video explains this well. In short set your bands so at anchored you would have about 3 to 4 inches of pull past anchor before the bands were at full stretch. Warning: it is not safe to pull and shoot past your anchor. Bottom line is on average our Wrist-Rockets shoot around 200+ fps. Your results will vary depending on all the variables above. I hope this helps. Chuck Saunders
The last point was confusing. I understand eye-dominance, but so that you don't do that awkward thing he demonstrated, you would shoot with your dominant hand no matter which eye is dominant -- making eye-dominance pointless, no?
@@MickyMoz You can relocate your anchor point. I like to shoot 3-4 rounds, then walk up to see how I'm hitting (paper targets, soda boxes, etc. because I can't see detail or the holes beyond 30-40 feet. At 50-60 feet, it's just too far to walk every few shots, and this old man will forget how he was shooting by the time I get back! See my earlier post on open eye shooting.
I love how serious you are about this, and the quality of the products.
Martin - Thank you for the kind comment. We are working hard on bringing you more content, great service and new products. Chuck
The best shooting instruction ever made, thanks to Mr. Chuck Saunders!
Thanks - Much appreciated.
Chuck
@@wrist-rockets I regretted not buying the orange Gem Clips back when I ordered my Falcon 2. That shipping cost from the USA is more expensive than the slingshot lmao! All the way to my country Malaysia, can't afford to buy again.
You really care for your customers, it's rare to find a company who actually answers all questions thru email. And the only slingshot manufacturer who accepts the reality of flat bands from Tex-Shooter, and this slingshot is the result...
Thanks for your service many years ago!
@@LKH9Channel That is frustrating and with shipping becoming so expensive it is hard for us to help from our end. Should you ever order a Wrist-Rocket again we will include the orange Gems no charge. Please cut and past this in the order notation field. We hope to have a new model out next year so stay tuned. Stay safe- Chuck
I've been looking for good advice as a beginning. This was the best video I've found. Thank you.
The slingshot was my very first projectile launcher. I’m now 41 and have always been with a wrist rocket. Your video popped up and I was curious. I could never explain as you do as I never gave it though.👍👍👍
The new flatland models are fantastic. My personal favorite is the Falcon-X. Hope you get a chance to shoot one. The Pipper sight is a fantastic option and the new 12mm Clod Poppers are economical and accurate. Shoot safe,
Chuck Saunders
Thanks dude! I just bought a wrist rocket, remembering the havoc I caused as a kid with one. I am scared of it. Your safety tips have made me a bit more confident to try it out.
Ian - Thanks for the comments. I too grew up making lots of bad shooting decisions so I know where you are coming from. The videos are a good tool and each time you watch one you may catch a subtle element of good form missed on the first view. Shooting a Wrist-Rocket is a great sport but it does take discipline to shoot safely and responsibly. We are here to help so reach out via our contact page at wristrocket.com should you have any questions. Keep Rocketing.... Chuck Saunders
I design, build and shoot, and watched this because I've several types of starships made, a couple of really different animals that are so radical, they have different shooting characteristics. Nice 101, and your way of discovering the dominant eye was great, even if you already know your own.
I know mine because I began naturally using an 'open eyes' method, where once I acquire my target, I pre-stretch on the lift (in case a band may break, pull my anchor point WHILST moving my slingsight just below my target and release. What occurs naturally (after initial practice), is the dominant eye will be the one on the target. I believe this method keeps situational awareness, balance, and peripheral vision maxed out, even though your mind is ignoring the weaker eye as you shoot.
I'd respect your opinion on that!
Great feedback Gary. A friend made a starship for me so I know they are a different animal. We are always trying to find better ways of teaching new shooters and It is rewarding to help shooters no matter what brand they shoot. Always wear safety glasses, shoot safe, honorably and well, Chuck Saunders
Very useful tips, much appreciated. I recently got a Barnett Black Widow, using marbles as ammo. However I was obviously doing it wrong because I was not using the archer stance, I was standing facing the target, needless to say I was not consistently accurate. Seems I was also holding the pouch wrong too, I was pinching it so both sides of the pouch met in front of the ammo. I'm off to test these tips out. Btw, I do use safety glasses, the kind used with weed whacker etc. thanks again.
Might I suggest you try actually holding the ball, rather than the pouch in front of the ball. And marbles are slow, with a lot of drop, and inconsistent imo. Once you try steel (most use 3/8), you'll give the marbles away!
Great video, you have a good style of teaching and a smooth voice.
You shouldn’t draw to your face in my opinion. Draw while pointing the slingshot down and then bring it to your face. If a band is going to break it will likely be during the draw and you don’t want to get slapped in the face by it, especially since you’re going to ignore this man and shoot without safety glasses.
Yeah, Fowler's Makery and Mischief, says that in a lot of his videos about slingshots. Always draw towards the ground first, then once you know the draw is safe, pull the slighshot up from the floor/ground. That way if anything snaps, or you lose grip or anything, you don't hurt yourself or others and always draw in a safe direction too, same as a firearm.
Drawing to the face is dangerous especially with a heavy compound bow and a mechanical release. A wild fire into the ground can also be dangerous so I still like aiming first then draw. As far as drawing to the face... drawing an inch off the face before settling into the anchor is a good practice. I appreciate the focus on safety. A lot of shooters still don't wear safety glasses I hope more shooters will encourage others to do so.
With firearms ammo scarce I'm looking at a slingshot. Good vidio.
I've seen some vidios where the shooter brings the pouch well behind the face for higher velocity.
What are your thoughts?
I think your way would be more accurate sighting.
We don't recommend pulling past the face. Though there are great shooters on both sides of this issue we feel the cheek anchor is the safest and generally the most accurate. Our bands and pouch are not designed for semi or full butterfly style shooting so do not use them that way. If you want more speed the alternative is to shoot with the Pro-X... th-cam.com/video/s60UnWBnZ5s/w-d-xo.html
Thanks great advice !
I'm so glad you liked it. This year, we want to update and redo many of our videos, and there are several major product announcements coming. I hope you stay tuned.
Please can you help me? I am all new to this. I want to know exactly WHAT am I aiming with? The center of the ~Y~ ? or the bands? How do I hold it to aim? I am dying to learn!
U hold the slingshot gangster style, use the top band n tip of top fork for aiming. Consistency is the key. U gotta keep the pouch at same place every single shot, cheek weld n use the slingshot to aim
BB Wiebz is right, you use outside edge/tip of the top fork as your sight and if you look at some slingshots on Amazon, you will see that many of them, have a built in metal sight reticle, fiber optic sights (or even a laser) on one side or both (for right and left handed). There is a great set of beginner shooting videos here on TH-cam from a champion slingshot expert, Fowler's Makery and Mischief. Dude is amazingly accurate and shows you how you can be and teaches literally everything about slingshots. Wrist rockets like these are great slingshots for stability and high tension pulling (cause of the arm brace), but the tube bands, really need to go.
They are not as accurate as flat bands, harder for beginners to use and get good with and frustrating for beginners. You can however, convert any wrist rocket style slingshot like this (wireframe they call them cause of the round steel forks), into a flat bad shooter very easily. He shows you how to do it right, how to tie your own bands, make your own bands from flat sheets of rubber etc. literally everything you can imagine with slingshots.
Does back tension come into this at all, like it does with archery?
So basically the same as a bow grip. No iron grip necessary, let the handle sit in the crook between the thumb and forefinger, makes sense. This prevents twisting by accident and misalignment which can derail a compound bow and hurt you and I would imagine even though derailing a slingshot is impossible, it will still throw off your accuracy and is dangerous.
Exactly.The new Falcon-X with its palm improves the shooter feel even more than the old Falcon-2. The patented and adjustable palm plate comfortably cradles the hand while providing an extra level of security when shooting with the open grip style.
Safety goggles are a must for any type of shooting. Firearms, bb guns, throwing knives/things, paintball guns, etc. Unless you want to have eyeball soup. No one wants eyeball soup.
I chuckle when people bother with knife throwing. In a real scenario, you won't be relaxed as in practice, will miss, and you've basically said, "Here's a weapon you can use!"
@@garychandler4296 Yeah, lol, they are pretty useless IMO. The penetration is horrid and useless, even at close range and you can't whip them harder, they perform worse that way and tend to bounce off things and not orient themselves proper to hit point first and stick. Throwing axes on the other hand, oh yeah, those are effective and mean. Good penetration and kinetic energy to them and easy to master throwing, they are almost a no brainer. The ONLY effective throwing knives, are heavy ones and experts only use heavy ones. They never throw those light ones, they are garbage.
Very good. Thank you very much
What is the maximum feet per second with a metal ball
Great question! To answer accurately we need to break down what is involved in speed. 1) Draw length 2) size or weight density of ammo 3) weight of pouch 4) Temperature 5) Band material 6) Band thickness 7) forward reach and finally 8) Band length or power setting
1) The longer the draw length the more distance the ammo has to accelerate during launch. For safety and accuracy reasons we recommend anchoring the pouch in the hollow of your cheek. Because some people have longer arms we use a shooting machine to set the same draw length for each model. The length we use is 29 inches from the saddle of the handle to the anchor point.
2) We use steel 44 caliber ammo to do our testing. We do this because we produce bands that are powerful enough for hunting yet pull easy enough for accurate shooting. Some people shoot the lightest ammo they can find which will give you great speed but it does not have anything to do with band efficiency.
3) Weight of pouch. Our pouches are made of a light but strong synthetic materiel that can fire a 50 cal steel ammo thousands of times without failure. The pouch is lighter than the big box brand China made slingshots but not as light as pouches made for small tournament rounds.
4) The hotter the bands the more efficiently they will shoot. Some enthusiast achieve fantastic speeds by heating the bands in an oven (warning don't do this or you may melt or damage the plastic parts) but this is not realistic. We do our testing at normal indoor temps.
5) Each type of band material will generate a different speed. We use black natural latex rubber which has great durability but our fastest bands are our Twin Natural Tapered band called TNT.
6) The thinner the bands the more efficient that is why we only use super thin twin bands per side. The reason this is true has to do with the long elastic molecules and covalent bonds but that can be covered at another time.
7) Don't confuse draw length with forward reach. Forward reach is the distance in front of the handles saddle that the bands attach. Thus the Falcon-X has more forward reach than our Wing and the Pro-X has even more forward reach. The longer the forward reach the more speed potential.
8) Wrist-Rocket flatbands come extra long so they can be used on virtually any slingshot made for flatbands. The advantage is you will have plenty of band length even if you have a hug draw length. The down side is that some people don't realize the power setting needs to be adjusted. On a side note we have just released a new video on how to attach our bands and will soon release a new video on setting the power. Basically we like the bands set at about 70 to 80 % stack and the new video explains this well. In short set your bands so at anchored you would have about 3 to 4 inches of pull past anchor before the bands were at full stretch. Warning: it is not safe to pull and shoot past your anchor.
Bottom line is on average our Wrist-Rockets shoot around 200+ fps. Your results will vary depending on all the variables above. I hope this helps.
Chuck Saunders
Here is a link to the new video th-cam.com/video/XACnTbLLJrQ/w-d-xo.html
Dont forget to put on sunglasses!!
Eric crow don’t forget to watch those wrist rockets!
@@christophervanoster for the republic
I’m watching because of stranger thing Lucas
But are you watching those wrist rockets
The last point was confusing. I understand eye-dominance, but so that you don't do that awkward thing he demonstrated, you would shoot with your dominant hand no matter which eye is dominant -- making eye-dominance pointless, no?
You want the dominant eye closest to the bands .
What if it feels totally unnatural to swop hands to suit the dominent eye ?
@@MickyMoz You can relocate your anchor point. I like to shoot 3-4 rounds, then walk up to see how I'm hitting (paper targets, soda boxes, etc. because I can't see detail or the holes beyond 30-40 feet. At 50-60 feet, it's just too far to walk every few shots, and this old man will forget how he was shooting by the time I get back!
See my earlier post on open eye shooting.