I disagree with miquella's voice actors deliverance being bad. The character is supposed to be gentle/kind and not tragic, furios or euphoric. However the rest you said about it is true. Btw you should have mentioned the grab-voicelines, because (for me) they are more memorable.
way too critical on Miquella, and Rykard's voice acting is great. It sounds like he is struggling to speak and choking on the corpses he's ingested. Other than that, good video. Fun to watch.
I fully disagree with the take on miquella. I feel like your hate for his voice lines is just pure grude-filled copium for the boss likely having given you a very hard time to beat him. There is no way they're as abhorrently bad as you exaggerated, as they are completely in line with the character and his lore, his writing into the story and his developments up until that point, and how he was meant to be portrayed with the voice actress's solid delivery. So it makes no sense how you heard his voice lines and somehow thought they didn't meet any of the criteria you provided other than you just being spiteful. But oh well, opinions over facts ig 🤷🏾♂️
very fair and valid points you've made here. I did go to town on him a little bit too hard. Voice lines aren't as easy to measure as something like how hard a boss hits you or how many openings they have or whatnot. It's about as subjective an opinion as they come. I just remember feeling very disappointed on my first playthrough and I haven't been able to get rid of that feeling
Sorry but i gotta give it to Godfrey. Badass monologues must run in his family because him and Morgott are by far the bosses with the most character and best writing. He has a sweet moment with his son and then places him down to talk to you, with a voice fitting of a true king. Not to mention the fact that Godfrey and his army were the origin of the tarnished, it is likely that we ourselves were part of his army as in the intro we also come back from outside the lands between. That is why he treats you with respect, you probably was one of his warriors. Serosh also roaring in specific moments to emphasize his emotions and delivery on the lines was great. Also if you were aware of how Serosh suppressed his bloodlust before the bossfight, seeing him give Serosh his thanks before slaying him is one of the best lore reveals in the game.
The craziest part about Messmer is that it’s his VA’s very first role in a video game. And he delivered what might possibly be the best performance I’ve ever heard in a FromSoft game, a studio that is known for having some of the best voice acting out there
Miquella being 13 and Rykard at 12? Really… I genuine feel you are letting your hate for Miquella as a boss impact your own judgement here. Miquellas voice fits his character perfectly, a calm, warm and kind sounding voice where he after finishing his plot becoming a god at last offers you to contemplate your action. You who has seen the sins of the world, the horrors and death are offered a better world, that you should surrender and let Miquella follow through his plan. It makes sense, is thematic and delivered exactly in character as you defy his act of selfish kindness. With Rykard his voice is the perfectly showing his deteriorated state, his struggle to speak after consuming so many and losing himself in the serpent. Like there are many gripes I have but these are the two big ones for me especially Miquella at lowest is to me just unthinkable.
I see what you're saying but at the end of the day it's almost impossible for a video like this to be objective since there is nothing to be measured. My hate for Miquella definitely impacted my judgement. I always liked the fight but I couldn't help feeling disappointed when I heard miquella speak and it's hard for me to see any other point of view. But I do appreciate your feedback and you make some good points about rykkard! could've definitely argued that he deserved a better spot
Also not going to lie, Messmer is good. But if you noticed they changed his voice delivery in the game, as in the trailer he sounded different, and in my opinion he just sounded way better. Like the "mother, woulds't thou truly lordship sanction in one so bereft of light" or "those stripped of the grace of gold shall all meet death, in the embrance of Messmers flame" had such an ominous, creepy delivery in the trailer
@@celest_art GREAT QUESTION. I think Rellana's or Romina's is my favorite in Elden ring but I gotta say sister Friede's is my favorite in all the souls games
First of all, i enjoyed the video. But it feels weird how you set baselines for how you'll be juding the characters and just get them wrong or have like "yeah dude this doesn't sound badass" levels of judgement Mikella voicelices are a perfect fit for his character, his delivery is as neutral as it can be, he got rid of every human aspect he had, he's chalenging you to fight him and yet we can't get any will to fight or to cause harm. Rykard should invoke a grotesque feeling, after all he lost himself to glutony, if anything he lacks more SFX during his deliverys to sound more disgusting, the VA did a great job Godfrey sound like a generic anouncer for MMO RPG trailers and Hora Loux lacks the sevagery it should have Midra is a bad version of everything good about messmer. Maliketh is aweasome but you get him so wrong dude WTF? his voice is trying to hide an eternal remorse and guilt over godwins death, he doesn't sound badass, he sounds sad. Divine Beast is one of the best fights in the game and it feels so bad to talk about bosses without having a way to include him. But even if you'd consider the old lady delivery. Her announcement is way too weak compared to Ranni's message before Renalla 2nd phase
Valid points. I tried to make a baseline for what I think is good but at the end of the day it only came down to which ones I liked the most. Sometimes it's hard to give well articulated reason on why you like something when all you know is that you like it
@@Doinkinator69 i totally get it. at the end of the day the topic of the video got me and a bunch of people engaged enough to leave comments. Tier lists always do amazing content idea btw, this is the kind of idea that make channels blow. Keep it up
Yeah Messer very good of having to listen to him say this all the time grace of gold shall all meet death in the embrace of Messers flame and again no strict of the grace of gold shall all meet death in the embrace of Messers flame the grace of gold show all meet death in the Mesmer flame and over and over having to hear that, but it was great when I finally beat him without using anything else but a big sword I’m dead serious by the way no no flasks +7 it was painful but I did it and it felt great
Wow I was learning his moves but then I see his attack are easy and I saw to really appreciate this boss. He was fun entertaining to fight which is something that most bosses don’t give like waterfall that move is annoying why Messers attacks the easy to dodge. I don’t know why people were struggling with him so much he’s really fun and entertainment.
I disagree with miquella's voice actors deliverance being bad. The character is supposed to be gentle/kind and not tragic, furios or euphoric. However the rest you said about it is true. Btw you should have mentioned the grab-voicelines, because (for me) they are more memorable.
You're actually right I definitely should've cause they're a pretty important part of the fight and would've probably made me put him higher.
In my opinion, the Heart Stolen line is far better than the cutscene line
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Honestly true. I'm biased though not gonna lie
I was not expecting a comparison between Messmer and Hitler in this video
someone had to say it lol
@@Doinkinator69 not disagreeing tho
way too critical on Miquella, and Rykard's voice acting is great. It sounds like he is struggling to speak and choking on the corpses he's ingested.
Other than that, good video. Fun to watch.
I fully disagree with the take on miquella. I feel like your hate for his voice lines is just pure grude-filled copium for the boss likely having given you a very hard time to beat him. There is no way they're as abhorrently bad as you exaggerated, as they are completely in line with the character and his lore, his writing into the story and his developments up until that point, and how he was meant to be portrayed with the voice actress's solid delivery. So it makes no sense how you heard his voice lines and somehow thought they didn't meet any of the criteria you provided other than you just being spiteful. But oh well, opinions over facts ig 🤷🏾♂️
very fair and valid points you've made here. I did go to town on him a little bit too hard. Voice lines aren't as easy to measure as something like how hard a boss hits you or how many openings they have or whatnot. It's about as subjective an opinion as they come. I just remember feeling very disappointed on my first playthrough and I haven't been able to get rid of that feeling
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MY NAAAAME IS GYOBU MASATAKA ONIWAAAAA!!!!!!!1!
LOL I actually recently started playing sekiro and this made me laugh
Sorry but i gotta give it to Godfrey. Badass monologues must run in his family because him and Morgott are by far the bosses with the most character and best writing.
He has a sweet moment with his son and then places him down to talk to you, with a voice fitting of a true king. Not to mention the fact that Godfrey and his army were the origin of the tarnished, it is likely that we ourselves were part of his army as in the intro we also come back from outside the lands between.
That is why he treats you with respect, you probably was one of his warriors. Serosh also roaring in specific moments to emphasize his emotions and delivery on the lines was great.
Also if you were aware of how Serosh suppressed his bloodlust before the bossfight, seeing him give Serosh his thanks before slaying him is one of the best lore reveals in the game.
The craziest part about Messmer is that it’s his VA’s very first role in a video game. And he delivered what might possibly be the best performance I’ve ever heard in a FromSoft game, a studio that is known for having some of the best voice acting out there
Messmer sounded great in the trailer and bored in-game. Still mad they used a different take.
Maliketh is a bass. They are built different. XD
Miquella being 13 and Rykard at 12?
Really…
I genuine feel you are letting your hate for Miquella as a boss impact your own judgement here.
Miquellas voice fits his character perfectly, a calm, warm and kind sounding voice where he after finishing his plot becoming a god at last offers you to contemplate your action. You who has seen the sins of the world, the horrors and death are offered a better world, that you should surrender and let Miquella follow through his plan.
It makes sense, is thematic and delivered exactly in character as you defy his act of selfish kindness.
With Rykard his voice is the perfectly showing his deteriorated state, his struggle to speak after consuming so many and losing himself in the serpent.
Like there are many gripes I have but these are the two big ones for me especially Miquella at lowest is to me just unthinkable.
I see what you're saying but at the end of the day it's almost impossible for a video like this to be objective since there is nothing to be measured. My hate for Miquella definitely impacted my judgement. I always liked the fight but I couldn't help feeling disappointed when I heard miquella speak and it's hard for me to see any other point of view. But I do appreciate your feedback and you make some good points about rykkard! could've definitely argued that he deserved a better spot
I must say... NOW I FIGHT AS HOARA LOUX WHOORRRRRIOOOOOOR!!! Is the worst, memiest voice line in th basegame.
Long and hard
@@Doinkinator69 Thats what she said
Also not going to lie, Messmer is good. But if you noticed they changed his voice delivery in the game, as in the trailer he sounded different, and in my opinion he just sounded way better.
Like the "mother, woulds't thou truly lordship sanction in one so bereft of light" or "those stripped of the grace of gold shall all meet death, in the embrance of Messmers flame" had such an ominous, creepy delivery in the trailer
For me no one can top Maliketh's last line "witless tarnished, why covet destined death... to kill what?"
You the guy who they nerfed radahn for
hell yeah
Putting miquella in 13 is criminal💀 it’s the best lines in the game😭🙏
The lion dancer’s voice lines change slightly if you kill Grandam beforehand, so for me it goes higher on the list
Tbh I was agreeing with you until except for messmer Godfrey and Malekith I think 1. Malekith 2. Messmer and 5. Godfrey moving the rest down one
Maliketh is goated
@@Doinkinator69 Frfr
I disagree with the whole thing the best voice line is yours! Because remember when you face a boss and defeat him YOU ARE THE BOSS yourself! 😁
LOL i love that
@@Doinkinator69 Also, I'm glad about the way you mentioned Maliketh.
Btw what is your favorite boss music ?
@@celest_art GREAT QUESTION. I think Rellana's or Romina's is my favorite in Elden ring but I gotta say sister Friede's is my favorite in all the souls games
@@Doinkinator69 "my flail bring me my flail" 😘 I love Sister fried and father Ariandel in everything
“MONGREL INTRUDER”🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
morgot has the best lines and its not even close
very good video keep it up
Personally I think basegane radahn has the best with the opening cutscene
Valid list
First of all, i enjoyed the video. But it feels weird how you set baselines for how you'll be juding the characters and just get them wrong or have like "yeah dude this doesn't sound badass" levels of judgement
Mikella voicelices are a perfect fit for his character, his delivery is as neutral as it can be, he got rid of every human aspect he had, he's chalenging you to fight him and yet we can't get any will to fight or to cause harm.
Rykard should invoke a grotesque feeling, after all he lost himself to glutony, if anything he lacks more SFX during his deliverys to sound more disgusting, the VA did a great job
Godfrey sound like a generic anouncer for MMO RPG trailers and Hora Loux lacks the sevagery it should have
Midra is a bad version of everything good about messmer.
Maliketh is aweasome but you get him so wrong dude WTF? his voice is trying to hide an eternal remorse and guilt over godwins death, he doesn't sound badass, he sounds sad.
Divine Beast is one of the best fights in the game and it feels so bad to talk about bosses without having a way to include him. But even if you'd consider the old lady delivery. Her announcement is way too weak compared to Ranni's message before Renalla 2nd phase
Valid points. I tried to make a baseline for what I think is good but at the end of the day it only came down to which ones I liked the most. Sometimes it's hard to give well articulated reason on why you like something when all you know is that you like it
@@Doinkinator69 i totally get it. at the end of the day the topic of the video got me and a bunch of people engaged enough to leave comments.
Tier lists always do
amazing content idea btw, this is the kind of idea that make channels blow. Keep it up
@@EricksonSRS Thank you!! appreciate the feedback my friend. everyone loves a tier list, myself included
@@EricksonSRS and yeah like you said, this vid is getting lots of engagement which I can't complain about !
W vid idea
I honestly disagree with most of the list only ones I agree with is miquella being low, miquella’s voice lines aren’t very memorable to me
Yeah Messer very good of having to listen to him say this all the time grace of gold shall all meet death in the embrace of Messers flame and again no strict of the grace of gold shall all meet death in the embrace of Messers flame the grace of gold show all meet death in the Mesmer flame and over and over having to hear that, but it was great when I finally beat him without using anything else but a big sword I’m dead serious by the way no no flasks +7 it was painful but I did it and it felt great
why put yourself through so much pain
Wow I was learning his moves but then I see his attack are easy and I saw to really appreciate this boss. He was fun entertaining to fight which is something that most bosses don’t give like waterfall that move is annoying why Messers attacks the easy to dodge. I don’t know why people were struggling with him so much he’s really fun and entertainment.
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