BOLERO RAVEL TAMBOUR
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- I DECIDED TO RECORD THE ENTIRE BOLERO BY RAVEL FROM AN UP CLOSE PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IN MY OPINION IT'S ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING SNARE DRUM PARTS EVER WRITTEN. IT REQUIRES MACHINE LIKE PRECISION, ABSOLUTE CONCENTRATION FROM START TO FINISH, AND TOTALLY RELAXED HANDS. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM FOR THE PERFORMER IS NERVES AND THAT PRODUCES MUSCULAR TENSION IN THE HANDS AND FINGERS. I FIND RESTING MY BUTT ON A STOOL (SEMI SITTING) HELPS TAKE THE TENSION FROM MY BACK AND SHOULDERS AND HELPS ME STAY LOOSE. DEDICATED TO THE VICTIMS OF THE PARIS TERRORIST ATTACKS.
Every time I hear Bolero, I cannot imagine doing that drum beat for so long, and I've played the timps for Yeovil Town Band. Stunning.
Brilliant. To play such a repetitive piece with perfect timing and stick control with no fluffing of notes takes a lot of skill. Well done
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Now I understand how difficult is this peace thanks to your comment.
Congratulations ! I absolutely love the Bolero and that drum work always impressed me :)
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In school i have to play the snear drum for a grade. Its the perfect practice for the exam. Thank you very much.
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Es increíble el trabajo del que toca el ¿redoblante? en las grandes orquestas que interpretan el Bolero de Ravel! Muy bueno!!
Very consistent throuout. Smooth crescendo to the end. Would you double the snare towards the end of the piece, in an orchestral setting?
+Duane Carlson Yes, the second snare drum comes in at rehearsal number 16 to the end.
Something like a marathon, run, run and no end in sight. ;) Good job ! :)
A fellow percussionist said to me that breathing is also a crucial part for this very challenging piece. Even though the same two bars are the only material in this work, their teachers would say to them: "Exhale for the two first beats, then inhale on the third. Redo these two steps over and over and you should be fine."
Same tip should also might work for string players; you can't do that crazy semiquavers frenziness at the beginning of the last movement of Bartok's Orchestra Concerto without breathing a few times...
Shite fact of the day: There are 4050 snare drum beats.
No, it’s 4056.
You can hear how this inspired the beat for the Imperial March.
The imperial march was after bolero😂😅🤣
The Imperial March was ispired by Prokofiew's Dance of Knights
@@tomaszsosnowski9279 No it was inspired by Mahler's 6th symphony.
you’re all wrong.
Holst’s “the planets: mars” inspired “the imperial march”
This piece requires the ultimate stick control and concentration . BRAVO .
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Not quite my tempo...
This really is a workout for your hands.
And the music can be very distracting for the drummers.
I'm giving this guy an A+++++
Спасибо за запись! Информативно!
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LE BOLÉRO DE RAVEL LA MUSIQUE LA PLUS JOUÉE AU MONDE !
24 hits per serie, each serie approximately 5.5 sec, in a total of 14,5 minutes.... 3.796 drum beats.
So good, the concentration is amazing!
brilliant. i dont play any drum but i make up my mind to play this masterpiece with my chopsticks or ipad drum app. great inspiration ever.
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Hi, very good indeed. I only have a question: you make a double stroke in the 8th notes, with your right hand, why? Is that the right way to play it? I'm just learning to play drums, that's why I decided to learn and play this piece, starting just by ear, and seems more natural to my hands play only single notes... Thank you.
It's not a double stroke it's merely three rights. When you use the same hand to play a rhythm it makes for a more constant sound. This is the way I have seen most orchestral players play Bolero. I know some players who alternate the entire rhythm. Experiment, try playing those two measures alternating hands then playing it using three rights. Ggod luck.
Thanks! I'm trying: R LRL R LRL R L R LRL R LLRLRRLRL, like double paradiddle at the end, but seems I'm making things harder without a purpose... ;)
Замечательно, умнО!
- Beautifully done! THANK YOU for this! I've enjoyed listening to it several times - I seem to keep coming back to it!
- one question - does the music you're playing with have the percussion part removed? If so, could you let me know where I could obtain a copy? Thanks!
No, the percussion is there. I don't know of any recording with the percussion part removed. Thanks for you comments.
4062 strokes!
Cindy .... Loved your reply! I think I played only 5 of those strokes correctly lol
@@bobbiecat7139 I saw another video of another snare drummer doing this part and I saw that his hands were such that they were positioned right behind the tips. I think that may be the key to making it easier tonkeepneverything even and play softly at the same time. I tried it this morning and it seems to work.
No it's 4056
@@bobbiecat7139 - She is not classically trained. She plays jazz.
@@sweetadelinedrummer - No.
Don't think about getting a beer or watch the girl......you WILL loose your place 😎...you will be fired !
you helped me a lot, thank you very much
Y como vas subiendo el toque...
Could you explain your sticking? I never would’ve imagined the LRLRRR but it makes sense if you’re trying to make each isolated beat sound the same.
LRLRRR. using the same hand on the last three eighth notes gives a more consistent sound
Una concentrazione incredibile.
I tried to play this and made two mistakes in the first three notes.
Can someone make my homework in music?
Thank you. My favorite classical piece of music and I always wanted to see the drums for its entirety ! Must be difficult to play and keep focused??
Thanks for your comments. Yes it's all about focus and also being a bit flexible playing under each soloist.
I like the except and there is many ways of playing this pattern. Please confirm if my observation is correct when you are playing.
1. You use a combination of wrist and arm movements playing the rhythm. I have seen other videos of excerpts you have played where the extreme dynamic soft was performed by shoulder movement. Is this correct?
You are 100% correct. It takes much longer for the larger muscle groups to fatigue than it does the smaller muscles (wrist only.) This technique gives one much more confidence when performing fast very soft rhythms such as those found in Shostakovich 7th symphony and Bolero.
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EXCELENTE !!!!!
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Is the tambour the same as the Tambourine, i am new to the drum world.
No. A tambour is not a tambourine. Basically it's a snare drum.
14 mn !!!! Of course it is a long time but apparently it is the same "sentence" all the time.
Easy to spaz out or forget which part of those two measures you just played.
ohhhh so this is what that old man was talking about not regretting becoming a basist even tho he only play C and G repeatedly ._.
tempo??
Thank you for this, a real inspiration
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Must be an expert at picking petit pois off your plate!!!.......Superb.
Cool!!! Bravo!
Thank You.
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Grande Don Hennig!! ya estoy suscrito a su canal!! saludos!
Gracias!!
Belle musique 🎶 j'écoute je ferme les yeux c'est bien.le morceaux solo du tambour j'adore
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A bon 😅
Impossible
wonderfull, such efficient to warm up withe a so beautiful music, thank's for your demo
Tanks you so much ☺️
Thanks for watching.
lol
gooooooooood
Genial. De esta pieza el tambor es el rer. Genial
nicolas 3*3
thanks, my cat love when i drum it and this is perfect for that :D
I tried to play it with a pad it's not as easy as you think it is
Ravel (BRAVO!) best snare? too use These are what I have. ( I will be using either a pearl 14 by 5 and a half mcx maple or a mapex black panther 14 by 6 and a half brass sledgehammer snare tuning heads batter tight? resonant head tight? I do use Remo ambassadors top and bottom(should I go to diplomats? snare wires i am using puresound 20 strand(On my mapex I am using the twisted wires My wife would be impressed if I could survive the 16 minutes on snare. Eight Miles high by the Byrds is my speed Thank you.
Thanks Michael for your comment. I used a Pearl Philharmonic 14x5 maple shell snare with Remo renaissance (diplomat) heads top and bottom. The snares are coated and uncoated steel cables along with wire. Your 14x5 drum would work but I would use diplomat heads top and bottom for optimum snare response. I hope this helps.
pure magic!
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Very good!!
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Nice 👌
Hi, do you count in your head in order to not to lose track and if yes how ?
No, if you mean counting measures. I'm focused on those two measures that repeat throughout the piece and I'm listing to each soloist in case there are slight adjustments to be made. You can't be too machine like playing this work because a soloist might want to make a slight rubato etc.when playing their solo. My point is, if you're not listening the whole thing could fall apart.
There'a utube video of buddy rich playing this with a stand up snare drum, and ad lib adding in his own unique presician style, ....look up buddy rich playing "chavala". It is impressive !!!!😎
Yes I've seen that video of Buddy playing Chavala...great!
Thanks for posting this. I need to see that!! 😄 It will be fun to see what he did with bolero! I saw him perform years ago and got to meet him. Bad attitude, but ridiculously AWESOME musician!!! He stomped off stage just because someone did something he didn’t like, and then after his tantrum, came back to finish the piece. He wasn’t very friendly after the concert either. But man, he was amazing to watch!! He’s the only professional drummer I know who could have a really bad attitude and get away with it because he could back himself up with god-like chops. Anyone else would be fried and never work again, lol.
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Congraduation
VERY impressive
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Impressive.
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Замечательно, большое спасибо!
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How many other instruments join in with the snare...I think I hear some flutes picking up the snare drum's rhythm. One of my most favorite pieces of music of all times. And no...I cannot figure out how a drummer can keep his/her sanity!! Well done!
+Bobbie Munger Thanks. Bolero requires 100% concentration from the snare drummer. You are right about the flute picking up the rhythm. All through the piece different solo instruments pick up the rhythm. This can create problems when the instrument picking up those two measures accidentally turns the rhythm around or rushes the phrase (that happens with the bassoon soloist in this recording) In that case, there's only so much minor adjusting the snare drummer can do.
+Don Hennig
I believe the difficulty of a snare-drum ostinato in Bolero beats J S Bach’s ostinatos (especially in his organ works) any day of the week! Hmmm Maybe that’s a little way out. lol Anyway...many thanks for that very educational rendition of Bolero.
A crescendo throughout the piece
I have those two measures taped to the top of my music stand. Kick ass 😎
C'est nulle 😂
Beautifully done! A wonderful piece of music. One of my faves. What is the timing for drumming?
If you mean time signature, it's in 3/4 time.
@@357pick - the tempo seems to be about 1/4 note = 67
see tbh that beats quite tricky to do because of the repetitive fast beat, well done for doing this perfectly, impressive 👍
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bravo!
Thank you.
really great and just *on the point*
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@@357pick
Hi, must be said!!