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People are crazy! This Part 1 of Season 6 is sooo good!!! Different than the first 4 seasons, these 4 episodes are so obviously fiction, because there is no way Peter Morgan know what Diana & Dodi discussed in Paris before the accident.
And it wasn't even a ghost! I perceived it as forms of grief. I've seen a lot of people including myself started talking to themselves when someone close just died. The characters were just shocked and still processing everything that just happened.
I think it was well done and totally in synced with Peter Morgan's The Queen starring Helen Mirren! Very good job! 👏🏽
Hope Elizabeth Debicki win her first Emmy for this.. What an incredible performance! All the actors and producers made an amazing job on this season!
@shutupplease777 exactly what I was thinking. She was brilliant.
me and me mates ARE ALL GOING TO BOYCOTT THIS COMING SEASON OF THE CROWN ! PURE WHITEWASH GARBAGE FOR THAT CHARLES !.......SIGH
@@matsudaseikoI think they are depicting Charles too well for my liking 😂.
I agree!!
I really don't appreciate the generalization that all Americans think "The Crown" is true. We know it's entertainment and not a documentary. I loved the first part of season 6, mostly because of West as Charles who, by the written accounts that I've read, was truly gutted by her death and he played it perfectly.
Exactly fiction....okay fiction at best
I think younger people, even if from England (most of us don’t call ourselves British, like people think we do), sometimes they think it’s real too and you have to remind them of things or that if we weren’t involved in the conversations at the time then that’s all generalised too.
A large percentage of Americans do think that the period pieces and historical dramas they see on TV and in movies are true because of the poor quality of the US education system and the fact that Americans only learn about US history in school. American ignorance of history is known around the world.
@@jessieb7290 You’re replying as if England represents the entire UK…as you know, it is only one part. And, whether you like it or not, you ARE British.
Then tell the story.. where as a American can I find the absolute true story that you guys know and received while we get this version where are the receipts?
The saddest thing about all this is that the Princess realised how crazy & vacuous her life had become. If she had lived it wouldn’t have surprised me if she had withdrawn from public life altogether. She had created a mania around herself the likes of which hasn’t been seen since. She totally eclipsed the Royal Family and still casts a shadow to this day.
I wish he would stop saying that we Americans think it’s a documentary, nobody does …
Yeah cause we’re old enough to know the difference between real and fake life. I’m from England.
I think the younger woke generation probably see it as a documentary.
No! I personally believe the ghost was a great way to show Diana as an ever present spirit even after death. We still talk about her. This is showing metaphorically how these real characters (I.e persons in this case) grieving and coping.
I like this! But what people were missing is that these “ghosts” were manifestations of guilt and grief. They’re shown talking to the 3 people who are the most responsible for their misery. It was used as a way to for the characters to have closure, and to redeem them. It’s ridiculous that anyone watched this and thought that they were being haunted by the ghosts of Dodi and Diana.
This is a very interesting conversation. I don’t personally believe it’s disrespectful and I think it’s a little far to say that it is.
How old were you when she died and were you born in England?
I think if it feels personal to you and you remember seeing her funeral and how much she meant to people, then you’d be affected by them trying to rehash it.
@@jessieb7290sit down Jesse. I’m English I was ten when she died and I love the show so do one
I'm loving this season. Full of emotion and what could've been in the background. I like that the most emotional and alive person in the royal family, Diana, is given a "chance" to speak and be herself. Even after death teaching them how to act more human... Emphasis on ACT.
part 1 of season 6 was INCREDIBLE!!!!!! the tears I was streaming while watching was so intense. I loved it so much!
You were streaming while streaming
Princess Diana will be a person of interest for many years to come. I am American and I know that it is NOT a documentary. Personally, I was a BIG fan of hers and was so saddened when she died and I still miss her!! Elizabeth Goodrich, Texas USA
I remember exactly where I was when I found out. Still makes me feel sick when I think of it. She was loved all over the world. Now that they dramatise her life for profit disgusts me.
She was loved all over the world and they still can't deal with it. I knew exactly where I was when I found out, can't say the same about the Queen or any of them.
It has not gone too far. It is brillient and could have gone a lot further.
They could’ve got the same stunt team as The Fast and the Furious to reenact the crash.
Give us Yanks some credit. We know it’s not a documentary.
I was curious how much of this was true regardless of that I think Elizabeth did an amazing job playing Diana
I’m American and am obsessed with the royal family.. I know the crown is just entertainment. Still love the show ❤
This guy is lying. Absolutely nobody thinks that this is a documentary, I love to see Royalists shocked by anything that doesn't put the Royal Family under a perfect light.
This woman needs to shut up! Who is she to say they shouldn’t show the most famous woman in the world to never be dramatised on tv again? Diana is part of history whether we like it or not. And a lot of people are still fascinated by her.
I have a friend who worked for the Royal family at the time. She left after Diana passed away. She told me the Queen really hated Diana both for what she'd done and because Diana was so popular, beautiful and actually loved.
The Queen couldn't handle her name being mentioned. I think the crown makes the Queen look much better than she really was in real life.
Worked for the queen in what capacity?
@@MsPinkwolf she worked as an administrator for the Royal family office. And there are no secrets in the staff especially if you have been around for a while.
How disrespectful to speak like this of a woman who is a unable to answer back. He said, she said, we have no reason whatsoever to believe what your friend said…without evidence. If indeed you even have a friend who worked there. I am always amazed by how many people have “friends” who worked in the Palace
@@ruthhogg6423 Ruth, actions speak louder than words. If you researched her actions you wouldn't take such objections.
Sadly most people form an opinion about a public figure based on the carefully curated media image alone.
Many people even think of mother Teresa as a saint!
Totally agree!
The ghost of Princess Diana is Peter Morgan’s way of saying The Crown is a just fictional series without needing any disclaimers as Queen Camilla’s friend Judi Dench demanded the show to declare last year.
Oh I completely agree. This was such a drop in quality than what we have seen before from the creators of The Crown. Overall it felt like they tried to cram in so much in these last Diana episodes and too focus on her personal life. What we should have seen and what has more significance for the The Crown is Diana teaching her boys about the real world, about care for those who are not as priveleged as they are. Because moving forward and focus on William next 4 episodes - we need to see why he is the way he is. All the Crown has shown us in these 4 episodes are iconic visuals that we already have seen before (photos on the yacht, kisses with Dodi, their Paris visit). Even her antilandmine campaign is given like 30 seconds of attention, whereas she did a lot more. The last episode is a mess, so many things happen, and none of the real pressure is felt. As if all it took is 10 minutes for the queen to change her decision. The Crown shows the critical points that could have had consequences for institution - Diana's death and funeral was just that and it was worth more than being crammed into a 40 minutes episode.
Wind your necks in.
It’s an interpretation of events. And then the audience is free to interpret that.
It’s just a well made tv show.
What does it matter, what's done is done. Interpretation??
@@lesleyjohnsonn6846 here’s a coffee ☕️
this show is incredible
The crown hasn't gone too far, this woman was torture to death
People who think that the crown is real are a little dumb 😂
So Americans basically.
Think that’s what they were implying. But some “British” people think it’s real as well, I’m sure young people who didn’t know who she was, probably think it’s real.
We Americans know it's not historical but entertainment. And we enjoy it.
I felt physically ill when they were chased through the tunnel and someone called for help, cause I knew what was coming. I decided to keep watching to see if they’d dramatise it well or if I’d learn something I didn’t know before.
I had to stop watching when the driver walked away from the bar and they filmed the drinks he’d had. I felt sick again and realised I didn’t want to watch her die again!
They should have just ended it after the last season, especially as it was going to end anyway.
She needs to be left to REST in peace. 🫶🏼
One year ago exactly, you said the same with Season 5!
Gone too far? No.
everybody knows its not real. its just based on drama and people love it. why should they stop?
The lady who played the queen last doesnt make the queen seem like someone who would have tea with Paddington. Or even a running chase after her grandkids. Its always felt to me like the queen had a great sense of humor
STOP SAYING AMERICANS THINK THIS IS A DOCUMENTARY. No one thinks that, we aren’t five years old. We know the difference between a documentary and entertainment.
The Crown was great to start with but after Coleman left it started to fall apart very quickly 😂
The female guest isn’t very clever and doesn’t get what film, tv or entertainment is. It’s art and art is subjective. Don’t like, don’t watch.
I'm surprised that Charles didn't say, Gee Diana, thank you for stepping out of the way for my Camilla.
Woman: I actually have an ethical issue with it.
Me: Oh here we go.
This lot is living in a different world altogether!
Surely the whole point of a drama that is meant to be portraying actual events in some form is that the actors bear some resemblance to the people they are playing, or least have some knack for sounding a bit like or capturing some essence of the person? The one playing the Queen in these latest series has neither. She may be a wonderful actress, but as Giles says "is not remotely like the Queen and is not responding as she would have responded".
There are too too many Diana stories, and the Crown shoul have respected Diana's decision yo walk away from it for the most part
Well the crown is about the Queen not Diana so …
I really Feel the crown should be stopped. I love my Royal family-
loved our Queen and Diana please just let them be
Most people realize it's fiction when it comes to dialog.. this old guy is presenting an argument that is years old.. give more respect to the viewer
I am so glad that this is the finale and will not include 'Meghan's story' in the series.
Anyone else notice the phone on the floor lol
I live alone so have to know, down to the penny, how much I have in the bank. Sadly.
Does anyone see the phone on the floor or am I going crazy? 🥴😂 x
Considering it’s ANOTHER season totally dedicated to the Diana story, then yes. I’m so bored of it and was really hoping for more focus back on the political/historical effects the royal family had - and not just a tragic love story.
my thoughts exactly, that’s what i liked most about the crown from previous seasons
The crown season 6 🎉 🇬🇧 is totally fine they need a new season 7 please
*It's keeps the British royal family relevant all over the world*
Without them we’d pay at least double in taxes, they bring a lot of tourism into the country and they’re part of our traditions.
Clearly you don’t know any of that.
They are no longer relevant, the monarchy died with Elizabeth.
The Crown is fiction. Brits know this and that’s really all that matters.
It’s a series. If people thinks are documentary, that’s on them and their stupidity
The dialogue in part 1 series is appalling! The treat of the Al Fahied was shocking. Thank god it's the last series.
Its just a show. Its just a show.
The monarchy did it.
I've watched the first two seasons and haven't bothered with the rest.
WHY NOT? It’s so good
Yeah it doesn’t get any better. I wish I never watched it now.
Americans don’t think this is real. lol. Poor Ole Chap.
Yes , Netflix has gone too far, just dealing with Harry and MM is going too far. I will not not be watch ing the crown.
You guys don't get people's consent or have them involved in the things you report. Does this make you horrible people too, by your own logic?
I’ve never seen Alison so unenthusiastic in all my life from the start of their conversation.
Want to watch this
Most of us have not, did not and won't have met the queen.
You don’t have to millions will
It’s a great show, I’m sure it’s got lots of true bits but lots of exaggerated or downright not probable bits as well. But it’s a TV show it’s sensationalized. It’s got some fictionalized bit, but it also has some true bits as well. If Americans think this is exactly what happened during the years we need to adjust the American educational system. I’m American, and while I know certain parts of what they show and all six seasons of the show are true. I also know they sensationalized chocks. I just don’t know what chunks but I can guess.
4 hours of Diana on a yatch and only 15 mins of scenes with the queen in the entire 4 eps... boring.
The crown...trouble is people will think its true....ive never watched it.
Honestly, it’s not that good. Season one is probably the best. And it depends on if you see the royal family as pointless or interesting. Plus they used to skip large periods of time in between seasons.
During the first season they mention facts you may not know after some episodes. Like the clean air act and when it was done. I find stuff like that interesting and wish they’d of kept that going.
Your actually not missing anything. They made out in the previous season that Princess Diana was loosing her mind, and today someone who envisioned people who are dead coming to them or obsessing that much would be sent to therapy.
She has a bit of a point though I have to say and his 9/11 question was so irrelevant and unnecessary. It’s 2 completely different situations.
I think it’s so tacky these Royal TV drama shows. No consideration for the past and present people that are being falsely depicted. De classe
I Love all of it !!! The RF control the narrative for so many years and have a lot of skeletons in there closets.
It shud have a disclaimer at the start so that people realise its not accurate and i think they have gone way too far they need to let her rip
O' Please! The Crown is a Whole Load of Deluded Tosh. It's Excruciatingly Aweful.
It’s a TV show
She played with the media and paparazzi
No one thinks it’s real
И вот она постоянно участвовала везде, как мы её видим в то, что она ездила на разные, вот эти моменты и показывают всё-таки име свой фонд, и она своим фондом ездила. Бедным-то в пище, то в одежде это. Это тоже показывает этот момент.
Hello it’s fiction
@5:32 this man has a WIFE?!
Да тут ещё фотографируют, что она куда-то едет и плывёт на таком катере, они постоянно везде фотографирует, постоянно пытается кад, как бы вступить. Что ж такое там происходит, ну вот и много-много репортёров, которые постоянно фотографируют? Видишь что делается вот и всё таки отдыхают загорает и там тоже где то интересный человек такой такая там происходит моменты это показывает как раз таки
Вы ещё играли в центре, уважаемый человек, вот уж у что ты это не цепляйтесь то, что там кадр какой-то кадры принцессы Дианы вместе с доди альфаедом, это их общение друг с другом. Это просто общение друг с другом, ничего такого там нет. Ну ещё это вы ещё играли там роли и его отца. Асмолов. Который постоянно названивал своему сын, узнавал, как у него дела он говорил, что я задерживаюсь на работе, а сам общался с принцессой Дианой, вот и вы играли его отца. Я помню это хорошо. Здесь просто общение друг с другом, ничего там такого нет, не признание в любви, ничего просто они общаются друг с другом, это общение интересное, это общение такое нежное, даже. Даже я в шоке, это всё. Ну, принцессе Диане, конечно, это нравится, когда тебя хвалят и делает приятное, как же не так он пытается поговорить с ней, пытается её с ней пообщаться в полной программе, расхвалить её за всё.
И своих детей она очень любила, сама принцесса Диана любила своих детей, и она их баловала постоянно, чем-то и с ними общалась, она их очень любила, дружила с ними. Показывали, как они в машине куда-то ехали. Куда-то на отдых показывали двоих детей и её самой машине, вот она баловала их постоянно, она любила, очень любила своих детей, очень я всегда думала о них.
I've lived in the UK since the 1970s and the whole idea that the country adored Diana is an absolute MYTH! Most people in the UK are and always have been largely indifferent to the Royals. They're to most of us what The Kardashians are to Americans. The whole Diana grieving was just mass hysteria whipped up by the media. The TV cameras only focused on the idiots doing their fake grief routine so it created a highly distorted view around the world. It's cringe worthy embarrassing to look back at. And she was also highly manipulative, she wanted to generate sympathy from the masses as the "cheated on" wife. Camilla was NOT a bit on the side, Charles knew her from years before. Just look at the thumbnails of this season with Diana looking like a lost little puppy dog. Just an act she put on for the cameras. Pathetic.
Really? Over the years the whole world has seen how your capital city gets during Royal events and funerals!
Actually she was adored all over the world, especially in this country. Don’t put your own beliefs or that of your family into other people.
Please. You can't deny the impact that her death had at that moment in Britain and all over the world. She was the most famous woman in the world at some point, get over it.
This whole comment gives dusty vibes. She must didn’t look your way when you were in the crowd with a poster 😂
I have met people/my mother says the same… not everyone was bothered and media has over hyped the public reaction.
Original but I know this comment, won't get me any likes any time soon.
Diana was not always the innocent victim she liked to portray herself
She never said she was perfect though
She never portrayed herself as a victim. She admitted to her own infidelities in that interview she did. And she understood Charles’s jealousy of her popularity.
My problem with this season of The Crown is that it is so unbelievably BORING. I saw three episodes, but stopped after that.