The Battle of the Trebia River (218 B.C.E.)

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  • @AleksandrVasilenko93
    @AleksandrVasilenko93 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3903

    Legend has it those roman heavy infantry are still marching forward.

  • @RobertGilliesMusic
    @RobertGilliesMusic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1455

    I guess the Roman heavy infantry took the whole 'one job' thing a little too literally.

  • @computo2000
    @computo2000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +962

    They did tell us we had one job though...
    -Roman heavy infantry, 218 B.C.E

  • @sisyphus349
    @sisyphus349 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1547

    "I don't know how to describe this, but they kept going, and going, and going, right of the edge of the map" this cracked me up. You've gained a subscriber.

  • @Decessus117
    @Decessus117 8 ปีที่แล้ว +781

    5:46 Hannibal, the ultimate troll, simultaneously defeats the Romans and draws a smiley face to mark his victory. [:

  • @PerMortensen
    @PerMortensen 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1490

    Frankly, it's just hilarious that the Romans kept marching through and away from the battle. What the hell were they thinking?

    • @AAARREUUUGHHHH
      @AAARREUUUGHHHH 9 ปีที่แล้ว +343

      Probably that they smashed the main force under Hannibal which meant the rest would run. Maybe they thought that was all the troops he had. Who knows.

    • @darthdj31
      @darthdj31 8 ปีที่แล้ว +258

      Per Mortensen RTW AI?

    • @InternetHandle123
      @InternetHandle123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      darthdj31 hahahahahahhahahaahahahahahaha

    • @RonaldHapchwarae
      @RonaldHapchwarae 8 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      +DukeOfWellington they could have been marching to where they thought the Carthaginian camp was. Or maybe their orders was marching into the enemy then keep going forward?

    • @rorschach775
      @rorschach775 8 ปีที่แล้ว +295

      +Per Mortensen It's like some Monty Python skit. Orders are orders. They were told to march forward and they did the best forward march anyone could hope for.

  • @coreygraham860
    @coreygraham860 8 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    5:00 The Forest Gump football strategy.

  • @TheLinkMedic
    @TheLinkMedic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    In Dodge's book he says he sent the calvary over during breakfast time to interrupt their morning meal so they would fight with no food in their stomachs. Meanwhile Hannibal's forces were getting warm by the fire and eating while the goose chase was going on. Then forcing the Romans to wade through the freezing river upon reaching the other side many were shivering. Love these videos btw!

  • @Skoogplay125
    @Skoogplay125 9 ปีที่แล้ว +800

    Im so glad I stumbled into your channel by accident. This is just perfection.

    • @alvin4100
      @alvin4100 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yeah me too.

  • @kennethmitchell1960
    @kennethmitchell1960 8 ปีที่แล้ว +529

    if only the romans had walkie talkies

  • @peterryan7729
    @peterryan7729 8 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    Actually, Hannibal purposely put the Gallic infantry in the center to make the Roman commander commit his best troops to fighting his inferior auxiliaries which were replaceable (and the Carthaginians suspected them of treachery), and since they were inferior troops, would allow his encirclement to commence, while psychologically giving the center of the Romans the "edge" by making them think that they were winning the battle. When the Gauls routed, the center pursued (perhaps so the Gauls wouldn't return to battle or because they believed the battle was won). In either case, I don't think you win every single battle over the course of 17 years, with only one exception, by chance and luck. It was a calculated move.

  • @waffleman383
    @waffleman383 8 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    This is a great example of how communication, or the lack of it, can be the defining factor of a battle

  • @huebeyduebey3493
    @huebeyduebey3493 8 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    "as if he planned it or something" cracks me up

  • @firebrain2991
    @firebrain2991 7 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Well, disobedience was punishable, so forward march was never cancelled

  • @Observer29830
    @Observer29830 8 ปีที่แล้ว +973

    So... from the looks of things, Romans could've won the battle if the troops that decimated the gauls turned around, and struck the carthagenians in the rear. Hannibal was pretty lucky, thar.

    • @Observer29830
      @Observer29830 8 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      jackson edwards Well, in that case your professor is making himself look silly without realizing it. I hope he doesn't make you use the words thou and thee when writing your tests.

    • @Tectonix26
      @Tectonix26 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Observer29830 He certainly finds it entertaining if nothing else.

    • @MsSirAndy
      @MsSirAndy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Observer29830 I agree with you

    • @MsSirAndy
      @MsSirAndy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Observer29830 I agree with you

  • @tylermacdonald448
    @tylermacdonald448 8 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I like how the carthaginians were arranged as a smiley face after they won. Coincidence? I think not.

  • @V1GG3boiii
    @V1GG3boiii 9 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    omg, yes a new HC video. Perfect timing, I was just about to eat.

    • @V1GG3boiii
      @V1GG3boiii 9 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Viktor Johansson After eating and finishing the video I can safely say it was not a disappointing video.

    • @TheLinkMedic
      @TheLinkMedic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Viktor Johansson You sound like me, every time I eat I like to watch some of my favorite channels from my subs.

  • @adeptus2714
    @adeptus2714 9 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    The Romans in the centre kept going because they were persuing the routed Gauls. I don't think it was for no reason.

    • @adeptus2714
      @adeptus2714 8 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      michaeldog123ful
      Well that they were boasting of the victory clearly shows that they thought the battle had been won. All they would have been able to tell from looking back was that the battle was still raging.

    • @michaeldog123ful
      @michaeldog123ful 8 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      huntmaster89 yeah and because of that they should of flanked because of the raging battle. That takes common sense. These guys were just idiots

    • @cgavin1
      @cgavin1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      +huntmaster89 Yup. The narrator ignores that this exact same tactic was used at Cannae to annihilate the Romans. Hannibal absolutely knew the Gauls would break and that the Roman center would pursue.

  • @arvindalexander1884
    @arvindalexander1884 8 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    After his 1500 mile journey from Cartagena,across the Pyrennees, the Rhone and the Alps, dodging Roman armies and fighting hostile tribes, he reached Italy losing 25% of his army and 32 out of his 37 elephants! One of the greatest of military feats, Like all greats, he had an outstanding team ....Gisgo and his own bros Mago and Hanno. His Numidian horsemen were led by the brilliant Maharbal, who had an outstanding role in all his victories. There was no way Hannibal could be beaten. Until he met the innovative Scipio, leading a superior army, with many more cavalry. at Zama in 202 BC

  • @vidarodinsson
    @vidarodinsson 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This channel is very good quality, amazing that I found it by accident.

  • @Assaassin157
    @Assaassin157 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yes a new battle video. Love these!!!

  • @Macieks300
    @Macieks300 9 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    battles are my favorite topic

  • @TheFancyRoman
    @TheFancyRoman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    5:10 What... the... fuck? WHAT THE FUCK!? I love the romans... BUT COME ON!

  • @turinturambar7311
    @turinturambar7311 8 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I laughed at 5:06 more than i should've.

    • @NoctisAugustus
      @NoctisAugustus 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +Turin Turambar
      I laughed so hard, when he said that the soldiers were celebrating victory in the nearest town... So funny.

  • @BaconHat
    @BaconHat 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Amazing as always! I really enjoy the war centred videos.

  • @jupiter7795
    @jupiter7795 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Guess this won't help my Total War game, unless the other guy has Serious microing issues.
    Also, this was hilarious - the heavy infantry "just kept going...right off the end of the map"
    Also Also, I discovered this channel 20 minutes ago and now have a new favorite subscription.

  • @calebfoster604
    @calebfoster604 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great job with the videos! keep it up!

  • @spaghettisquad3028
    @spaghettisquad3028 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Roman's in the center probally thought since they broke the hard and tough gauls the rest would run. They couldn't have been chasing the routed Gauls because then they could get up behind Hannibal's forces.

  • @christianskold4669
    @christianskold4669 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing videos! Please keep it up!

  • @DARTHMAUL1994
    @DARTHMAUL1994 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I remember reading somewhere(sorry no idea where it was) that the force that ran away wasn't just misscomunicated and without orders, but that they were led by the Tiberius Sempronius Longus and it was a deliberate break-through and escape from getting surrounded. Could you maybe add a bit on this?
    Besides that great video and nice graphics to further visualise what is being said.

  • @TheFlydor
    @TheFlydor 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video

  • @PINGPONGROCKSBRAH
    @PINGPONGROCKSBRAH 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Roman infantry using W + M1 tactics

  • @MarylandResident
    @MarylandResident 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work. Keep it up.

  • @killamonjaromon
    @killamonjaromon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I know a lot of people died, but the stupidity of the romans in this battle is actually funny. Hell, even the AI in Total War is smarter than that.

  • @buckyryan2804
    @buckyryan2804 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank for the video

  • @GreveElof
    @GreveElof 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should do a video about the Tribun of the Plebs video, as you did with the consuls and preators :)

  • @adeptus2714
    @adeptus2714 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Romans in the centre kept going because they were pursuing the routed Gauls, it wasn't for no reason.

  • @french9096
    @french9096 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why are there not more videos? i want more i stumbeld on this today

  • @DuffEntertainment
    @DuffEntertainment 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you able to make a video about Genghis Khan's tactics at some point, that'd be awesome

  • @williamsamny3319
    @williamsamny3319 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The battle of waterloo next?

  • @TheArgentin
    @TheArgentin 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good work! keep it up man, i really enjoy roman history- There are 2 games in which you can play as them. Rome total war and rome 2 total war. In thr second game you play the second punic war, its amazing

  • @heeyuanong1135
    @heeyuanong1135 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    at 5:46 , i could see a smiley face !! , lol

  • @vicnorma462
    @vicnorma462 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice!

  • @maaderllin
    @maaderllin 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never heard of that roman line keeping going on in that battle.
    Where is this mentionned?

  • @bukopie3906
    @bukopie3906 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do The Battle of Zama!!!

  • @magoskillzmagoskillz3540
    @magoskillzmagoskillz3540 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    quick question, do you think the Gauls or even Carthaginian took the armour shields and swords from the dead Roman? because any time I see them in movies they are almost naked? or just poorly equipped?

  • @TheDKninja
    @TheDKninja 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Human lives are just blocks and numbers.

    • @kekero540
      @kekero540 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +Daemon Magister that moment when your playing Europa universalizes or total war.

  • @KennyHazy97
    @KennyHazy97 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    5:47 [:

  • @jmyersv1
    @jmyersv1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I put it together and there is 1 final reason that Rome lost these battles and Hannibal easily predicted his moves... A very good network of spies.

  • @SirPetterTheFirst
    @SirPetterTheFirst 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When you go into a battle rage, you dont care about anything and just keep going, but I dont think a whole like of roman heavy infantry can go into rage

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      they were not enraged at all, their banners were held high and the trumpets sounded as if they had won.

    • @JollyRogersBoy666
      @JollyRogersBoy666 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +SirPetterTheFirst it sounds like they ran down the routing enemy and got carried away

  • @sirpandaface
    @sirpandaface 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gauls are people too..

  • @BrettDei
    @BrettDei 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd suggest that your videos in this list be reorganized to place them in a more sequential order. JMHO

  • @wolfafe
    @wolfafe 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ROFL they probably thought well we did our job i bet our men will finish of the others lets go celebrate yolo

  • @dirtybirdy572
    @dirtybirdy572 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what a fucking farce hahaahahah great video

  • @GdFireLord
    @GdFireLord 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    wait? i thought that by the time of the second punic war rome alredy controled all of italy so how can rome then have italian allies?

    • @Jarvald
      @Jarvald 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Vilgot Ottestig They had influence over the whole peninsula. They didn't have formal annexation of everything though. In fact there was one city, can't remember which, that defected to Hannibal during the war.

    • @cameronnedland410
      @cameronnedland410 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Vilgot Ottestig It was a difference between Roman citizens and other Italians.

  • @nebojsagalic4246
    @nebojsagalic4246 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What was wrong with these Romans?!

  • @-euiv-tngentoppa5562
    @-euiv-tngentoppa5562 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    im not completely sure on this,but wasn't rome intentionally leaving the battlefield,so that the troops of their allies would be slaughtered?
    after all at this point in time rome was still dependent on the loyalty of the italian allies,so robbing them of their military power,effectively robs them of their ability to revolt/switch sides.
    after all they didn't knew what kind of monster hannibal was,they just thought of it as good opportunity to render their allies helpless

    • @VasilyKiryanov
      @VasilyKiryanov 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +-EUIV- tngen toppa Not likely.

  • @Mipeal
    @Mipeal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    you said spanish troops. that is not correct. at most they are spaniard. Spain did not exist at the time. Just like you dont call the gauls, french

  • @airbreather123
    @airbreather123 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please just do battles