I'll have a video up soon where I did a comparison between the Porsche 911 Carrera 1974. I have to say, I didn't really feel any difference, and I matched my old PB pretty fast. But, there may be some differences that can be noticed from the footage. I'm just starting the editing process, so I haven't watched them side-by-side yet.
It did look you were much more comfortable with the AMS2 version, much smoother lines and wheel rotation. If I'm not mistaken, the AC version looks understeery mid corner but oversteery on exit? Tbf GT3's are generally piss poor easy to drive compared to other classes. They're the "my rich daddy bought me a race car" class of motorsports, so lots of assists and stable cars. Not saying you don't need experience - but definitely one of the easiest and most forgiving classes. Also, try turning down the TC to maybe 1-2, same with ABS. The default AMS2 setups come with a stupid amount of TC/ABS, like heavy rain levels of assist. That might help make the car less forgiving and more to your taste.
Yes AC was understeery mid corner. And in AMS2 TC was at 1 or 0 here and this car doesn't have ABS. I do believe these cars would be considered easy and forgiving IRL, but it just feels like I (a bad GT car driver) am driving a bit too flawlessly in my opinion. I just felt like after a few laps there wasn't much time to be gained, by driving more optimally, and if I wanted to get closer to WR, I would've just had to cut and abuse track limits more like the WR.
@@MotorsportMinded @MotorsportMinded Ah yep... forgot the RSR is a GTE, whoops. 😅 So no ABS too. Also, I think the "I can't gain any more time" is a feeling a lot of GT drivers feel. I've seen loads of forum posts asking for advice on where to improve in GT's, saying they felt they couldn't gain time - meanwhile they were 2 whole seconds off pace. I thibk the main problem is the gains are always small in these cars - 0.05 here, 0.1 there - but 0.1 means accelerating half a second earlier, not a noticeable improvement while driving. But they add up, and that's where the time improvement comes. But yeah, if you drive GT's well it's extremely hard to gauge where you can gain time - and while you may not have as much experience with GT's, you're still a good driver haha. And this equal performance issue is even more obvious in real life (at least in GT3's - not so sure about GTE's). Between two equally skilled drivers, passing each other is a nightmare. It's why the overtakes, especially irl, are so aggressive and usually involves trading some paint - without the opponent making a mistake or a divebomb, passing is gonna be a hell of a battle because of the equal performances of the cars. So in short yeah, your feeling is justified, but that's just how GT cars are. It's why many people claim these classes are boring, which while I can't agree with - I can't disagree either haha.
@@HoriaM29I guess I'm just not used to being at this level where you really have to start min-maxing because I'm usually so far off and making bigger mistakes.
@jonredcorn862 What? I don't think you understand how we are using the word 'easy.' Don't take it so literally. It's easy for professionals to drive/ easy compared to other classes. Of course we don't mean it's easy and we could go beat the IRL lap record lol.
Gear ratios are clearly different between the two and Watkins Glen doesn't have that long of a straight: maybe the longer ratio made the AMS2 slower than it can actually be? It actually looks like a recurring theme the longer great ratios in AMS2
Yes, I think that is at least part of the difference, and it seems like I can't really change the setup to make it any better (I mean there are just no better options in AMS2 with this car). The cars aren't exactly the same either, and the grip levels feel much different. The AC version feels very grippy even through corners and turns, while AMS2 feels a lot more loose or a bit slidey. So, I think there are a lot of different factors, but in the end, the AC version feels faster (or has the potential to go faster). I believe anyone who is actually good with GT cars in AC would beat me by at least 2 seconds, but I don't know if the AMS2 version even has the potential to go 2 seconds faster than this, at least without cutting corners like crazy. (the WR for AMS2 is 1:41.3? or something close to that and he is already abusing the track limits)
just tried do my best in ams2 and 1.41.58 is my max after hour. about max speed do some laps before hot lap, bc tires and brakes are not warmed. (GTE tyres ideal 2 bars)
Great lap, my current pb is 1:42.1xx, would you consider yourself a good GT driver though? I'm usually like 4 sec off pace in other games. I think I'm not even very good.
@@MotorsportMinded I didn’t really play the sims except pc2 and ams2, in pc2 I was usually slower by 1-2 seconds than best times. and I play ams2 mostly once a week for fun.
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Hey, another tire tread update including many of the older cars, GT Classics, M1 Pro Car and all that.
Would love to hear your impressions on them!
I'll have a video up soon where I did a comparison between the Porsche 911 Carrera 1974. I have to say, I didn't really feel any difference, and I matched my old PB pretty fast. But, there may be some differences that can be noticed from the footage. I'm just starting the editing process, so I haven't watched them side-by-side yet.
It did look you were much more comfortable with the AMS2 version, much smoother lines and wheel rotation. If I'm not mistaken, the AC version looks understeery mid corner but oversteery on exit?
Tbf GT3's are generally piss poor easy to drive compared to other classes. They're the "my rich daddy bought me a race car" class of motorsports, so lots of assists and stable cars. Not saying you don't need experience - but definitely one of the easiest and most forgiving classes.
Also, try turning down the TC to maybe 1-2, same with ABS. The default AMS2 setups come with a stupid amount of TC/ABS, like heavy rain levels of assist. That might help make the car less forgiving and more to your taste.
Yes AC was understeery mid corner. And in AMS2 TC was at 1 or 0 here and this car doesn't have ABS. I do believe these cars would be considered easy and forgiving IRL, but it just feels like I (a bad GT car driver) am driving a bit too flawlessly in my opinion. I just felt like after a few laps there wasn't much time to be gained, by driving more optimally, and if I wanted to get closer to WR, I would've just had to cut and abuse track limits more like the WR.
@@MotorsportMinded @MotorsportMinded Ah yep... forgot the RSR is a GTE, whoops. 😅 So no ABS too.
Also, I think the "I can't gain any more time" is a feeling a lot of GT drivers feel. I've seen loads of forum posts asking for advice on where to improve in GT's, saying they felt they couldn't gain time - meanwhile they were 2 whole seconds off pace.
I thibk the main problem is the gains are always small in these cars - 0.05 here, 0.1 there - but 0.1 means accelerating half a second earlier, not a noticeable improvement while driving. But they add up, and that's where the time improvement comes.
But yeah, if you drive GT's well it's extremely hard to gauge where you can gain time - and while you may not have as much experience with GT's, you're still a good driver haha.
And this equal performance issue is even more obvious in real life (at least in GT3's - not so sure about GTE's). Between two equally skilled drivers, passing each other is a nightmare. It's why the overtakes, especially irl, are so aggressive and usually involves trading some paint - without the opponent making a mistake or a divebomb, passing is gonna be a hell of a battle because of the equal performances of the cars.
So in short yeah, your feeling is justified, but that's just how GT cars are. It's why many people claim these classes are boring, which while I can't agree with - I can't disagree either haha.
@@HoriaM29I guess I'm just not used to being at this level where you really have to start min-maxing because I'm usually so far off and making bigger mistakes.
@jonredcorn862 What? I don't think you understand how we are using the word 'easy.' Don't take it so literally. It's easy for professionals to drive/ easy compared to other classes. Of course we don't mean it's easy and we could go beat the IRL lap record lol.
Gear ratios are clearly different between the two and Watkins Glen doesn't have that long of a straight: maybe the longer ratio made the AMS2 slower than it can actually be? It actually looks like a recurring theme the longer great ratios in AMS2
Yes, I think that is at least part of the difference, and it seems like I can't really change the setup to make it any better (I mean there are just no better options in AMS2 with this car). The cars aren't exactly the same either, and the grip levels feel much different. The AC version feels very grippy even through corners and turns, while AMS2 feels a lot more loose or a bit slidey. So, I think there are a lot of different factors, but in the end, the AC version feels faster (or has the potential to go faster). I believe anyone who is actually good with GT cars in AC would beat me by at least 2 seconds, but I don't know if the AMS2 version even has the potential to go 2 seconds faster than this, at least without cutting corners like crazy. (the WR for AMS2 is 1:41.3? or something close to that and he is already abusing the track limits)
just tried do my best in ams2 and 1.41.58 is my max after hour. about max speed do some laps before hot lap, bc tires and brakes are not warmed. (GTE tyres ideal 2 bars)
Great lap, my current pb is 1:42.1xx, would you consider yourself a good GT driver though? I'm usually like 4 sec off pace in other games. I think I'm not even very good.
@@MotorsportMinded I didn’t really play the sims except pc2 and ams2, in pc2 I was usually slower by 1-2 seconds than best times. and I play ams2 mostly once a week for fun.