You guys are amazing Chris explains everything which we never see somewhere else . I m really lucky to come cross the channel and hope to purchase something with your knowledge very soon 👋
Thanks for the compliment - see here for the picture of the housings measured with a vernier:- turbodirect.co.za/store/index.php/shop/turbochargers/turbocharger-turbodirect-s-a/performance-racing-3/golf7r-is38-hulk-8blade-billet-compressor-4112-4288-detail
Nice 👍 turbo,the compressor housing looks like good quality not cheap knock off,probably one of the best plug and play turbo out there!Keep up the good content I’m starting to learn how to read compressor maps because of you ,thanks!
@@123chrispapa Chris - its difficult to explain without physically demonstrating it - ill get to this once the project car is built and tuned. We will change over housings to show you the results. In the mean time - an easy way to understand this is to compare blowing through a straw to blowing through a hose pipe. If the pressure and volume being passed through the straw exceeds that of the straws capabilty - there is substantial backpressure build up due to the restriction. (bottleneck)
Hi. Can u help? Im sizing a china ebay turbo for 20v 1.8t vw engine. Can i pick any cold AR that i want? Or do i have to get the right family size and pick within there? Like gt28 vs gt30 vs gt35
Tomi, I wouldn't go near a chinese paperweight if i were you - not unless you planning on doing an experiment to test something - but if you planning on wasting your money and purchasing a knock off "something something" for your own vehicle to actually drive and use, which it sounds like you are.... there shouldn't really be many compressor housing AR options with the majority of turbochargers, because the compressor flow, mach speed, air speed, volume and other aspects of the delivery from the housing are governed, managed, limited, affected, restricted, (to name a few) by the housing AND compressor wheel match -- Always back to basics - 1) What is the intended applicaiton? (drift, drag, street, circuit etc) 2) What is your intended HP output? 3) What fuel are you going to use? 4) What do you plan on boosting to make the power? (this and point 3 and point 2 will confirm eachother) 5) etc ..... Will determine 90% of what turbo you decide to use at the end of the day, not the AR of the comp housing. Sorry i cannot be of much more assistance than this, until i know more about your project. When i make suggestions, i make them based on proven turbochargers, brands, etc -- you can take that info and choose to buy some paperweight model copied in the asian backyard of shenyang or the likes thereafter - but id warn you against this - and i can almost guarantee you another thing - cheap = EXPENSIVE, if you havent learnt this yet - you will.
@@TurboDirectSA very true it's a risky venture. I suppose as this is my first big turbo experience I like buying something cheap to play with. If it only lasts a short while, then a proper replacement will have gained from the research and experience of the failed predecessor. Additionally my goal is 500-800hp range. I want as much as I can get. Fully built motor. Either 100octane or e85. I can do either. Slight 1.9 stroker build (rods pistons valves springs crank)
@@tadman3d Buddy let me give you some advise, i see this exact scenario on a daily basis with so many clients. If you go to the beach, you either swimming in the sea or you tanning on the beach - there is no in between. 800HP is not joke, as much as its your first project, i dont think you actually know what you in for - you playing with a loaded gun by buying a cheap knock off product, i have seen many of these thing burst and explode on my own dyno. To build an 800HP or even 600HP setup on a 4cylinder, you going to have to invest in a forged bottom end, this costs money, alot more than a cheap turbo. You will need to invest in a clutch, a proper clutch that will hold the power, and provide you with some form of "soft" pedal feel especially if you on the street and possibly in traffic at all - this costs money - more than a cheap turbo. The drive train is next - more money, or it WILL break. More than a cheap turbo. You will need injectors - once again proper injectors that are matched, balanced, and flow the same (or close to eachother) costs money - more than a cheap turbo - You will need an ECU to control this (stock ECU is tricky and always having to flash and reflash.... ) you need a standalone to have full and continuous control over the tuning. This costs money - more than a cheap turbo .... So you land up investing in a large some of money on the above (and i havent listed everything above....) and then the component that is MAINLY responsible for driving that investment above is the turbo, and then you skimp on spending on this "insurance policy" for the above engine build ..... not wise at all. When (not if) the turbo fails there is a big chance it will destroy your engine and/or cooler and and and..... Decide are you sun tanning or swimming. If you swimming, you arent walking with your feet in the water - you are in the water under the water .... Do the job properly the first time, or dont bother - thats my advise to you. Use it, lose it.... your choice.
@@TurboDirectSA Chinese product are not all bad. There are definitely a lot of high quality Chinese parts of you look into it. But yes nothing on eBay will be good. All the high quality stuff would need to be ordered and made via direct contact or through a partnered shop in China
This is the original design from IHI - counter rotation allows 180 degree turbine to compressor orientation swap to be possible and to open up space between the block and firewall
@@TurboDirectSA is it like that the original turbocharger or it's your housing that did the conversion? I mean if the stock turbocharger is a twin scroll or not.
@@aftastosk6016 Original turbo is not true twin scroll - it has a one inch long divider at the inlet of the turbine housing but is a single scroll volute.
@@TurboDirectSA ok it's very interesting to know that also in stock OEM applications manufacturers choose a twin entry single scroll turbine housing. Arashi offered a twin scroll single entry Subaru Spec C Td05/Td06 with a 8cm turbine housing however I thought that it was a success only because the long tube headers of the EJ engine neglected much of the advantages of a true twin scroll setup. Now all Taiwanese switched to a 10cm twin entry single scroll housing for their spec C offerings, which left me wonder if they have comparable spool with a single scroll Td05/6 with the usual 8cm housing. (my opinion is that even if they do, it's a cost cutting measure their previous offers - twin entry single scroll 8cm and twin scroll 10cm - were superior)
@@aftastosk6016 Buddy its always good chatting to you - i think that there is alot of influence by the customers who are informing the chinese what to do - i dont think that the chinese have any R&D teams actually doing comparative work on the vehicles and testing in any way. .... who knows for sure.
You guys are amazing Chris explains everything which we never see somewhere else . I m really lucky to come cross the channel and hope to purchase something with your knowledge very soon 👋
Thanks buddy - much appreciate the comments and compliment.
id love to see the housings next to the original to compare the sizes. Lovely turbos!
Thanks for the compliment - see here for the picture of the housings measured with a vernier:-
turbodirect.co.za/store/index.php/shop/turbochargers/turbocharger-turbodirect-s-a/performance-racing-3/golf7r-is38-hulk-8blade-billet-compressor-4112-4288-detail
Nice 👍 turbo,the compressor housing looks like good quality not cheap knock off,probably one of the best plug and play turbo out there!Keep up the good content I’m starting to learn how to read compressor maps because of you ,thanks!
Thank you Lou - plenty work has gone into these products in the background, much appreciate your compliments - glad you enjoying the content.
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What is the size (A/R) of the new turbine housing?
This is really beautiful👌🏼👌🏼
Thank you Mohamed - much appreciate your compliment
Hello. How can I get one of these? I have the 1.8 2019 Golf Alltrack.
Info@turbodirect.co.za
I need one.
legend
Hello , I have Porsche macan 2.0 ea888 gen 3 engine
. I want to buy this so bad , how can I get it ?
Please shoot an email to info@turbodirect.co.za
@@TurboDirectSA is this turbo make 650HP or less then 650 ?
@@TurboDirectSA what the turbo name or details so I can purchase it ?
@@nawafalkhadeer4199 Check your email Nawaf
do you loose performance from going a smaller front AR compressor housing also?
Yes Chris you will - the smaller the AR the less flow capacity the housing has, and the more restriction it will create.
@@TurboDirectSA would be good if you had a vid on front ar housings what they're good for with response :)
@@123chrispapa Chris - its difficult to explain without physically demonstrating it - ill get to this once the project car is built and tuned. We will change over housings to show you the results.
In the mean time - an easy way to understand this is to compare blowing through a straw to blowing through a hose pipe. If the pressure and volume being passed through the straw exceeds that of the straws capabilty - there is substantial backpressure build up due to the restriction. (bottleneck)
I'll have to buy it
I like that electronically controlled actuator; i wonder if it can be found at a logical price :)
Yes it can - there are many chinese knock off's of the actuator, but IHI might bring this out into the repair side of the market.
Hi, is it possible to go up to 1000 hp on the EA888 Gen 3 with forged internals?
Nope!
Who sells this in the states
We export to the USA directly.
Hi. Can u help? Im sizing a china ebay turbo for 20v 1.8t vw engine. Can i pick any cold AR that i want? Or do i have to get the right family size and pick within there? Like gt28 vs gt30 vs gt35
Tomi, I wouldn't go near a chinese paperweight if i were you - not unless you planning on doing an experiment to test something - but if you planning on wasting your money and purchasing a knock off "something something" for your own vehicle to actually drive and use, which it sounds like you are.... there shouldn't really be many compressor housing AR options with the majority of turbochargers, because the compressor flow, mach speed, air speed, volume and other aspects of the delivery from the housing are governed, managed, limited, affected, restricted, (to name a few) by the housing AND compressor wheel match --
Always back to basics -
1) What is the intended applicaiton? (drift, drag, street, circuit etc)
2) What is your intended HP output?
3) What fuel are you going to use?
4) What do you plan on boosting to make the power? (this and point 3 and point 2 will confirm eachother)
5) etc .....
Will determine 90% of what turbo you decide to use at the end of the day, not the AR of the comp housing. Sorry i cannot be of much more assistance than this, until i know more about your project. When i make suggestions, i make them based on proven turbochargers, brands, etc -- you can take that info and choose to buy some paperweight model copied in the asian backyard of shenyang or the likes thereafter - but id warn you against this - and i can almost guarantee you another thing - cheap = EXPENSIVE, if you havent learnt this yet - you will.
@@TurboDirectSA very true it's a risky venture. I suppose as this is my first big turbo experience I like buying something cheap to play with. If it only lasts a short while, then a proper replacement will have gained from the research and experience of the failed predecessor.
Additionally my goal is 500-800hp range. I want as much as I can get. Fully built motor. Either 100octane or e85. I can do either. Slight 1.9 stroker build (rods pistons valves springs crank)
@@tadman3d Buddy let me give you some advise, i see this exact scenario on a daily basis with so many clients. If you go to the beach, you either swimming in the sea or you tanning on the beach - there is no in between. 800HP is not joke, as much as its your first project, i dont think you actually know what you in for - you playing with a loaded gun by buying a cheap knock off product, i have seen many of these thing burst and explode on my own dyno. To build an 800HP or even 600HP setup on a 4cylinder, you going to have to invest in a forged bottom end, this costs money, alot more than a cheap turbo. You will need to invest in a clutch, a proper clutch that will hold the power, and provide you with some form of "soft" pedal feel especially if you on the street and possibly in traffic at all - this costs money - more than a cheap turbo.
The drive train is next - more money, or it WILL break. More than a cheap turbo.
You will need injectors - once again proper injectors that are matched, balanced, and flow the same (or close to eachother) costs money - more than a cheap turbo -
You will need an ECU to control this (stock ECU is tricky and always having to flash and reflash.... ) you need a standalone to have full and continuous control over the tuning. This costs money - more than a cheap turbo ....
So you land up investing in a large some of money on the above (and i havent listed everything above....) and then the component that is MAINLY responsible for driving that investment above is the turbo, and then you skimp on spending on this "insurance policy" for the above engine build ..... not wise at all. When (not if) the turbo fails there is a big chance it will destroy your engine and/or cooler and and and.....
Decide are you sun tanning or swimming. If you swimming, you arent walking with your feet in the water - you are in the water under the water ....
Do the job properly the first time, or dont bother - thats my advise to you. Use it, lose it.... your choice.
@@TurboDirectSA fair enough
@@TurboDirectSA Chinese product are not all bad. There are definitely a lot of high quality Chinese parts of you look into it. But yes nothing on eBay will be good. All the high quality stuff would need to be ordered and made via direct contact or through a partnered shop in China
What do you think of pulsar turbos?
We have never seen them, nor tested them, i cannot comment im afraid.
@@TurboDirectSA cool
why is it counter rotation ? any pricing ?
This is the original design from IHI - counter rotation allows 180 degree turbine to compressor orientation swap to be possible and to open up space between the block and firewall
So this a twin entry single scroll turbocharger
Correct
@@TurboDirectSA is it like that the original turbocharger or it's your housing that did the conversion? I mean if the stock turbocharger is a twin scroll or not.
@@aftastosk6016 Original turbo is not true twin scroll - it has a one inch long divider at the inlet of the turbine housing but is a single scroll volute.
@@TurboDirectSA ok it's very interesting to know that also in stock OEM applications manufacturers choose a twin entry single scroll turbine housing. Arashi offered a twin scroll single entry Subaru Spec C Td05/Td06 with a 8cm turbine housing however I thought that it was a success only because the long tube headers of the EJ engine neglected much of the advantages of a true twin scroll setup. Now all Taiwanese switched to a 10cm twin entry single scroll housing for their spec C offerings, which left me wonder if they have comparable spool with a single scroll Td05/6 with the usual 8cm housing. (my opinion is that even if they do, it's a cost cutting measure their previous offers - twin entry single scroll 8cm and twin scroll 10cm - were superior)
@@aftastosk6016 Buddy its always good chatting to you - i think that there is alot of influence by the customers who are informing the chinese what to do - i dont think that the chinese have any R&D teams actually doing comparative work on the vehicles and testing in any way. .... who knows for sure.
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First?
Yes 4 years ago